4D Golf: Hell World

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2 ай бұрын

I'm glad 4D Golf has a hell world now. It was really necessary.
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@Oscaragious 2 ай бұрын

There's a setting that puts a horizontal red line across the screen whenever you're in Volume view. Technically not needed, but it's quite useful because whenever you leave Volume view, you'll be on whatever slice that red line falls on. Using that, you can rotate your view to align the redline over the ball, and the next part of the course and then switch out of Volume view and go.

@AlexMoreno-zj7po 2 ай бұрын

thanks

@vytah 2 ай бұрын

There are five platonic solids in 3D, six in 4D, and three in every higher dimensional space. The three that exist everywhere are the equivalents of a tetrahedron, cube and octahedron (which is a dual of a cube). In 4D these are 5-cell (made of tetrahedra), tesseract (made of 8 cubes) and 16-cell (made of tetrahedra), the remaining three are 600-cell (made of tetrahedra, equivalent to icosahedron), 120-cell (made of dodecahedra, equivalent to dodecahedron), and 24-cell (made of octahedra, equivalent to nothing).

@user-tl4bg3ci3g 2 ай бұрын

the analogue of the icositetrachoron is a rhombic dodecahedron

@AlphaSquadZero 2 ай бұрын

I like the part where icely finally understands the art of mini-putting in 3d space.

@IcelyPuzzles 2 ай бұрын

lmao

@Smithers888 2 ай бұрын

Wait, which video did that happen in? I must have skipped it.

@creativenametxt2960 2 ай бұрын

7:20 it is possible to mirror the world by rotating it in 4d, much like you can flip over a piece of paper in 3d, so you got turned around due to that

@Varandru 2 ай бұрын

Expanding the analogy, you just turn, say, katha, until the world looks the same, but mirrored? Because to turn around a 2d sheet of paper in XY I rotate it in XZ?

@creativenametxt2960 2 ай бұрын

@@Varandru yeah, pretty much if you got a 3d object with directions (x, y, z, w): forward (1, 0, 0, 0) right (0, 1, 0, 0) up (0, 0, 1, 0) you just rotate it around the plane (x, w) by 180 degrees to get up and right unchanged, but forward flipped, which is just mirroring the 3d object around the plane (y, z)

@lexyeevee 2 ай бұрын

man i even knew this (a left shoe can be turned into a right shoe by simply flipping it over in 4D) but it hadn't occurred to me that you could do it to /yourself/ via camera controls

@mertaliyigit3288 2 ай бұрын

Nooo you missed the juggling animation in the museum. In one of the walls there is a "painting" which as you move your head you see it moving

@JustAnotherCommenter 2 ай бұрын

6D Golf with Multiverse Time Travel

@ack7 2 ай бұрын

If you've gotten to the end of the game, you might realise that you've made an error in that sentence... If you know, you know

@adisca2k 2 ай бұрын

@@ack7 Not really an error, just a different variant of the 6d that we got.

@ack7 2 ай бұрын

man will you be "excited" for what happens in the beyond

@JTCF 2 ай бұрын

Holy shit this golf game made me understand how the gravity works, at least the space bending part... The sun is just a humongous golf hole.

@AmaroqStarwind Ай бұрын

Black holes are the ultimate golf holes

@user-th1hu6hg9s 2 ай бұрын

Golf Dimensional Advanced 12:50

@gaimnbro9337 2 ай бұрын

My favourite part of 4D golf, the golden death cult 26:24

@sunbleachedangel 2 ай бұрын

Imagine speedruns of this game

@Deachuu 2 ай бұрын

im THIS close to understanding whats going on

@zacharymacleod1146 2 ай бұрын

icely is torturing himself for our amusement. I fully believe he hates this game and would never play it if we weren't so invested in his suffering.

@nickm3694 2 ай бұрын

definitely should know that if you scroll while putting the ball, you can zoom in and out of the course which is especially helpful for volume mode to get a better grasp of the whole level.

@Kyun9432 2 ай бұрын

In the V view, you can rotate with R. Whenever you go back to real view, you can imagine taking a horizontal slice from the V view, and that's what you see.

@josephprice9739 2 ай бұрын

I get up from this game and feel disconcerted that I can’t rotate myself into the 4th or 5th dimension

@iantaakalla8180 2 ай бұрын

I want the ability to look upward and to flip what is left and right

@joyli9893 2 ай бұрын

Birdie Bogey 1% 10% 89%

@Kh-ik3de Ай бұрын

No, 16 over par is 20%

@sergewind2208 2 ай бұрын

For me the courses were easy since I used Volume View to help rotate the levels and see where to go

@logicalfundy 2 ай бұрын

Doesn't work so well with slopes though. Volume view is the equivalent of lying down on the course and looking around.

@ThatGuyCalledMyth9001 2 ай бұрын

@@logicalfundyif you press 1 you can see past the slopes in volume view

@itryen7632 Ай бұрын

17:18 This might be one of the smartest things i have ever heard coming from a human.

@towaii 29 күн бұрын

10:20 you know something, replays would actually be a fantastic addition i think. especially were there some kind of splitscreen view so you could watch what's happening in slice and volume views at the same time. i've made some shots with some of the weirder obstacles like those hyperspheres, that icicle or the rotating platforms where i went off course and had no idea what happened

@drdca8263 2 ай бұрын

10:46 : indeed! In higher than 4 dimensions, iirc, there’s like, Uh, well there’s the n-cube, the n-simplex (analogy to the tetrahedron), and... I think like, 2 others? Oh, I guess there’s probably an analogy to the octahedron, dual to the n-cube ? (Take each hypersurface of the n-cube and put a point at its center. Then take the convex hull of these points. I’m pretty sure this should be a Platonic n-solid . Doing the same thing to the regular n-simplex should I think just give you the n-simplex.) Uh, maybe there’s only those 3 for n>4 actually? Idr. Of course, there are plenty of weird polyhedra-like shapes in higher dimensional spaces, I just mean “ones where all of their (n-1)-dimensional parts are congruent, and also satisfy the same property one level down”. So, like, I guess there’s no way to e.g. stick together a bunch of regular 24-cells of the same size in order to form the boundary of a 5D thing. But more generally, in topology, lots of stuff actually gets simpler (in a certain sense) after dimensions 4 or 5 . Like, the simplest stuff is in dimensions 0, then 1, then 2, The most difficult to classify tends to be in dimensions 3,4,5 , and then stuff higher than that, gets simpler again (and like, the same in each) Though like, I’m not saying that the “it gets simple after this number” is the same for all questions. There are some things that are special in 6,7,8 dimensions, and also 24? (E.g. “exotic 7-dimensional spheres”. Iirc there are multiple inequivalent ways to put differentiable structure on something which is topologically a 7D sphere. And for sphere packing there’s the E8 lattice and stuff) But like, for a lot of questions, 4 dimensions is the last case to get fully solved, with the higher dimensional stuff getting solved first. Iirc.

@charlotte_0 Ай бұрын

those 4d 3d paintings are like a new art form

@sirati9770 2 ай бұрын

the 4d world does not have any 3d objects, they are all 4d, otherwise they would be surfaces not objects

@drdca8263 2 ай бұрын

It often makes sense to regard objects as surfaces. E.g. a sheet of paper. It still makes sense to call it an “object” while thinking of it as a surface.

@sirati9770 2 ай бұрын

@@drdca8263 a sheet of paper has a depth, it is not just a surface. just because we mainly use it for the purpose of its maximised one surface side, does not make the object itself the surface

@drdca8263 2 ай бұрын

@@sirati9770 I know it is not just a surface. When I said it can be thought of as one, I meant that as an approximation. It is slightly thickened. One can always take an epsilon thickening of whatever lower dimensional thing one wants to embed.

@matirion 2 ай бұрын

Not aiming for all hole in ones yet? Is that the next video, Iceles Puzzly?

@zane49er51 2 ай бұрын

I wish you tried understanding things a bit more. Like the fact that the rotating spherical platform confused you so much

@Rev_Erser 2 ай бұрын

think of shooting in the wrong 4th dimension as shooting in the wrong normal direction such as left or right. there are differences when you turn because it is in fact a different direction.

@dzaki8331 2 ай бұрын

If this video managed to get 500k + views will you do the challenge levels?

@sunbleachedangel 2 ай бұрын

that's a big "if"

@JustAnotherCommenter 2 ай бұрын

150k+ minimum

@AmaroqStarwind Ай бұрын

20:57 "It is corporeal... Linear..."

@Shuck34 2 ай бұрын

Remember: if there was a level editor, creating a level would be harder than playing it

@duane6386 2 ай бұрын

There is a level editor

@theominouspigeon 2 ай бұрын

there is a level editor

@EmeraldEmsiron 2 ай бұрын

honestly only once you include elevation, before that you can just use volume view

@adisca2k 2 ай бұрын

@@EmeraldEmsiron But if you don't include elevation it is just 3d golf, the space variant, no gravity but with strong air resistance. Cool concept in itself though, do we have a game like that apart from this one?

@AmaroqStarwind Ай бұрын

@@adisca2k And you can totally make those levels

@LexiLex421 2 ай бұрын

Golf battle advanced. For real this time.

@Jonskipvp 2 ай бұрын

4 dimensional golf advanced

@PolishProgrammer 2 ай бұрын

4D stroke advanced

@bigchungus7870 2 ай бұрын

How would you have a 4D stroke?

@ckcky1755 2 ай бұрын

Supervision

@bensoncheung2801 2 ай бұрын

🔥🔥🔥

@SquareWaveHeaven Ай бұрын

Damn D, why you gotta be so 4?!

@PaperLuigi14 2 ай бұрын

Thirteen-millionth

@terabyte6903 2 ай бұрын

They're hast ob away two don't

@theominouspigeon 2 ай бұрын

14:07 thats a pretty bisexual line imo

@lexyeevee 2 ай бұрын

do Q and E work as up/down in volume view?

@ybouzl2191 2 ай бұрын

Yes

@lexyeevee 2 ай бұрын

@@ybouzl2191 that sounds like the ideal way to understand the course then. seems like icely only rotates which tends to make a big mess

@yomismootro598 2 ай бұрын

: )

@hiranpeiris877 2 ай бұрын

kjh

@RupertAndCheese 2 ай бұрын

God this game seems like torture. Also I think there was a Q/E rotation as well?

@JustAnotherCommenter 2 ай бұрын

To me Q/E rotation is better than free camera rotation by holding left click. It keeps you perpendicular and aligned to a specific 4D direction, whether Ana or Kata.

@thezwierz5563 2 ай бұрын

Q/E is not a rotation, it's moving in the 4th dimension similar to moving North/South and East/West with WASD

@logicalfundy 2 ай бұрын

Q/ E is walking, actually, just like WASD. In 4D you're walking on a volume, not a surface.

@PaperLuigi14 2 ай бұрын

Stopping kids from saying "second"

@Whalo-Tube 2 ай бұрын

Stopping kids from saying “first”

@neutralflowerland 2 ай бұрын

Yet you did include it

@user-os8my4ht2x 2 ай бұрын

200 views?? Fell off

@chobies5383 2 ай бұрын

Dude you're like nine and are a rainbow friends fan

@hypercubemaster2729 2 ай бұрын

Yet your comment ironically screams "I want attention."

@Whalo-Tube 2 ай бұрын

@@chobies5383 im not thats my little brother. WATCH SOME LONGFORMS

@DontfeelNienfeeler 2 ай бұрын

I have a couple criticisms about this game as well as some things I feel the creator did right. 1. This is one of the first games I've seen to actually make the whole environment visible, not just a slice so I greatly appreciate that, but why is the environment so transparent to the point it's a bit hard to see while seemingly random chunks of the map are completely opaque? 2. while I like how it accurately shows fog [albeit only in one direction for some reason] and I understand making the environment transparent [thank you Dev], for some reason it's translucent too, is this an oversight? 3. this is a bit weird to say but I wish I could see what other people usually see when looking at 4d rotations. People often say bizarre things like the shapes are going "inside out" or "disappearing" or it's somehow "psychedelic" but I all I'm seeing is just a normal rotation around a plane, can someone please fill me in?

@user-tl4bg3ci3g 2 ай бұрын

are you in volume mode for number 3?

@DontfeelNienfeeler 2 ай бұрын

@@user-tl4bg3ci3gfor number three it actually has nothing to do with the game and it's just a general statement, what do 4d rotations look like to you? why would they look weird to you?, in what way does it not appear to be a rotation to you? Also weird that you call it "volume mode" when really you are just looking at the floor, or at least that's what I see anyways.