The sheer effort that went into making this video - 10/10

The 4K tv has very noticeable lag, the monitor is lagging behind the CRT. CRTs have essentially zero input lag.

240p Consoles like SNES, NES etc is where the crt really outshines the other options.

Do these consoles count as retro now? God damn I'm old. >.

I heard that CRTs had very little lag compared to modern ones, but seeing it compared directly made the difference easily apparent. It’s crazy that we’re just now getting lag-free displays with modern TVs

the only reason i keep my crt tv is because watching vhs/video cd/480p or less input resolution (like very old youtube videos) in an hdtv/monitor is a pain. we still need crt tv for older contents and formats😉

I know things look different in person but from the video everything looked the best on the monitor.

You kinda mentioned it in the beginning, but one thing to keep in mind is that if you're using a CRT with component cables, you're going to be getting the best picture. Things like the sony trinitron around 03' had component (some even had multiple) and if you change the settings in things like the ps2 to output in 480, you're gonna see an incredible picture that I don't think you'll get when using an HDMI adapter. I can see the idea of a monitor being similar, but they were designed for that CRT, and if you're using component or S - Video, you'll see that enhanced beautifully.

I love CRT for my retro gaming consoles but Xbox, Dreamcast, and Gamecube can look great on an HD tv with the right cable and if they are progressive scan. My PS2 is always on the CRT. I imagine ignorance is bliss for those who never grew up with CRT TV's mind

Thank you for doing this. I can now rest easy knowing I don't need to buy a TV to replace my CRT in the spare bedroom. You rock.

What I really hate about non CRT TV's is the blurring whenever there is movement in a video game, and it's not just the non HD consoles, it also happens on my PS3 too, I've tried changing the settings on the consoles and on the TV's, I've tried non HD leads and HD leads, yet movement still looks blurry. New TV's just totally seem like a step backwards from CRT's, I wish CRT's were still being made.

I use my ps2 and Gamecube on my crt and it looks fantastic compered to my HD Lcd.

I can only see CRT as winner when it comes to lower latency in all test.

the lag on the 4k tv is atrocious

I personally have a PS2, GameCube, and an Xbox (original) connected to a CRT. They look amazing. I also have a Wii that I occasionally connect, but usually it stays on the family TV, which is a plasma. I do have to say though, I’ve connected them all to the plasma, an LCD, and my CRT, and they look best on the CRT. They were built at a time when CRT was the standard, so they were designed to be used on CRTs.

CRTs are the way to go

Excellent video. Really well executed and planned. You left no stone upturned.

Just what I needed, really useful information. Thanks

Man the effort you put into this video is incredible! Amazing content 👌

Great video! You obviously put a lot of effort into making this, thank you for the comparisons!

Yeah, HDMI lags, its why audio sync doesnt work sometimes when mixing surround systems, bluetooth systems and why playing halo on Xbox 360 had a distinct advantage on CRT.

Cool video! :) It's helpful for the most important when it comes to older consoles! Pixel and upscaling comparison. But for a better picture comparison, every monitor/TV should have their picture setting trying to visually match at least brightness, contrast, saturation, and sharpness. For exemple, your CRT TV is too washed out and the monitor is too saturated. Every TV are also with sharpness differences, that are visible on the letters for instance.

If I was playing on a variety of older consoles I would be more than happy with how the 4k TV was handling them, saves having multiple different setups/screens. Nice vid, really informative.

This Chap is a Legend...this video is still valuable after all these years. Nice one mate.

Nice Vince 👍. Just subscribed to your channel keep up the great content dude !!! Salute Man

I got an RCA television from the 80s and can play xbox 360 just fine

Nice video, one question: is that a wide crt?

Pause the video and use > (next frame) and < (previous frame) keyboard buttons to view frame by frame and see the how big the lag is on every LCD, even in "game mode", when compared to CRT. Additionally, keep in mind that this video is in 30fps, so 1 frame of lag we see here is 2 frames of lag in 60fps

Good ol' Wolverine's Revenge, I never got to complete it before returning it back to Blockbuster, but it was one hell of a game. Absolutely loved it. Thanks for the comparison mate.

this is the best comparison video on youtube. well played 10 / 10

Where is Scart RGB cable?

Correction, component isn't RGB, it's ypbpr, they are different standards. RGB is typically found in scart and jp21 connectors.

good video I just picked up a Sega obviously older than the consoles you tested would you say CRT would probably be the best bet?

Hey, nice video. How are you splitting the RCA to the 4 screens?

I wish I hadn't thrown away my JVC CRT TV, the sound was especially good. Another interesting option is to use a portable DVD player with the AV in cable. I used it for my PS1 and it was surprisingly good.

Love these in-depth videos! Did you knew there’s a modern Panasonic oled TV that has component and composite inputs for retro consoles? I compared the upscaler of the tv with retrotink 5x pro and it upscales just as good if not better visually wise! Tv has best PQ i seen and very good build in speakers (tuned by technics) tv is Panasonic HZ2000. Maybe you guys could checkout the HZ2000? It’s not known by many and convenient wise very easy to set up retro consoles.

This was very helpful! My big takeaway is that I don't need to bother getting a CRT tv for my retro game consoles. I've never been much of a screen-o-phile, so it seems highly unlikely that I would be able to notice a significant difference unless it was side-by-side with my normal tv.

Get a crt before they all gone. I have one for my 8 bit nes. It complements very well for that retro experience.

13:24 You can increase the colour on the CRTs settings. Also, SD 4:3 CRTs are better for Retro consoles.

Dude forcing the video output of the nintendo wii on sd crt to PAL 576 I is better than 480 I NTSC?

Holy Crap that game mode thing helped so much thank you

Thanks for doing that To really drive the point home, I've seen this with iPad promotion 120hz vs regular iPad screen, slow motion camera, you can really see the difference It's important with modern TVs now Thanks for doing this I have 3008wfp Dell ultra sharp, Still thinking of getting a tv, full HD 1080p But there are many factors I have a softmod ps2 with a hard drive So it's kinda something I'm looking into

Honestly, if you plugged any of those consoles to a sony trinitron FV or FS series (flat screen sdtv crt) via component it would blow all those displays out the window in every possible test. You would need to emulate to get a visually better, and or as good of a looking (static) picture in comparison to any of those consoles on a FV or FS trinitron.

Isn’t it impossible to actually represent a CRT via video recording? I don’t know the technical terms, but basically only ever other line is visible on recording.

I can see a delay in the beginning where you said they all look the same. Remember you are talking 200-300 milliseconds or .2 seconds. It's not much to the eye, but it can be a big difference in a game. It's there, have a closer look and pay attention to the slight delay that is literally a blink of the eye.

great video

awesome video, very informative

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Does the 1080p TV have a strong magneta tint in real life?

How come you didn't include backwards compatibility with the GameCube on the Wii?

What do y'all think about the og Xbox on HDTV,like a average 720p. Or is it better on CRT? I have both TV's, just wondering what's the best for the Xbox

Oh!, I always wanted to get a 16:9 CRT TV, those never came to Argentina :-(, I wonder if you have an older CRT TV that's not so new since I read and heard so many times that those ones introduce lag.

sheer effort and setup 10/10

Awesome video.. you did put alot of effort into it.. I am really sick of all these 4k HDR Reviews.. when people want to know.. how does a DVD look, how does Free to air TV look, how does a console look plugged in with scart.. etc..

Hey bro.How come you were able to plug the ps2 into the 4k tv,but the 4k tv's does not have av inputs.so how were you able to plug the av cables straight into the tv but you need to use the converter to plug the ps2 av cables because 4k tv's dont have av inputs.im confused please answer this question.

I love my 13 inch crt tv, my ps2 and sega dreamcast look so much better on it! It really is the best way to play older games.

I jusy got old ps2 again and i got 42 inch samsung full hd tv which is like 9 years old its also got the red white and yellow shall i just connect the av cable straight into them or use hd adapter which will look better? Also will game fit whole tv screen or will it be in centre please help

I know this is 4 years old but I'd also like to add it's great that used composite as despite it having the worst image quality cable wise it's what all these consoles came with and generally still do :) I'd also like to add with the Nintendo GameCube at least the UK model supports RGB scart :)

If i use the AV to HDMI connector on the wii with a pc monitor, and play gamecube games, does that work properly or does it cause an error?

Why is it a more purple on 1080p and 4k TV I have a 4k TV and the Nvidia shield TV 4k device runs perfectly but PS3 and PS4 display green text when writing or objects are tiny with a little bit of purple shading all around the screen. I've tried messing around with the picture settings but nothing is working.what can.i do to fix it?

Any idea on what the power consumption would be like on a 14ab h CRT in comparison to a large OLED?

for some reason my wii has stopped working with component cables and the hdmi adaptor, I guess the launch models kinda suck?

#1. Get component cables. #2. Use a smaller 32" or less HDTV screen. It doesn't help to use a 55" HDTV. #3. Set the component source for 4:3 RATIO (not 16:9). Do not use widescreen or full screen as it will stretch out the picture. Even if the games support both 16:9 and 4:3, pick the 4:3 ratio as it will look better. The smaller the television and the smaller the display the better it will look. #4. The 480p compatible games look better. For PS2, hold x and triangle during load up screen and apply progressive scan (480p). Some people use component cables, never changed their game to progressive scan (480p) and are using standard definition display and later complain about the component cable's picture quality. Some games like Tekken 5 may display options in their menu and can put out higher 525p. There are many PS2 games that support 480p. PS2 games that support 480p will look better but there are many games that don't support 420p and look good like Def Jam: Fight For NY. Here is a list of PS2 Games with alternative display modes (480p). sonicwbii.fandom.co/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_2_games_with_alternative_display_modes

I think everything technically looks better on modern TV's, the color accuracy, sharpness, and depth are all "better". But the reason why people like me love CRT's is because of that weird phosphor glow that they have, and the magic of how an analogue image is made. It really is something different and special. And of course, the input lag is no comparison.

didn't the wii come out in 2007/08? back then plasma and LCD tv's were waaaay more common than CRT's at least in switzerland, i got my first flatscreen (LCD) TV in 2006!

original xbox is better in a crt or an oled? using all those upscaling devices like retrothink 5 + hd cables

CRT no doubt about it. But then again I only use CRT tvs so Im probably quite bias

I've got project Gotham racing on original Xbox and need for speed carbon on ps2

I'm wondering if the CRT colour isn't suffering from signal splitting...

Looks like a huge command center!

Thanks for this video! But if you pause at lets say 10:32 and notice the cursor on all three displays you'll see that CRT is still faster!

If you connect the console to the monitor via av to hdmi convertor.. the where do the audio come out from?

I think the crt has the brightness set too high or it's just been used too much, cause mine don't look that washed out, even on camera

Cool video idea.

If you put the video in 0.25x, at 14:56 you can also see that the CRT has a few milliseconds of faster response time than the 1080p monitor. Since you can't see the rest, of course it still varies. But also once Vince starts moving the camera a few seconds later you can see that all the other displays look extremely blurred as he moves it but the CRT still retains its clarity when while the camera moves. May not be clear in regular speed, but you see interesting results in slow-mo!

What is the best tv for ps2 any idea without any cables

Can you notice any pixelation at a good view of distance?

At the 5:00 mark. What is the name of that HDMI converter?

YOU NEED FOR TEST 32" 16:9 HD CRT TV with HDMI !!! so question is how diffirent type of TV works in same conditions for example 1080 i/p .

Great video.. ur spot on

Lcd monitors and tvs use sample and hold which is what causes the blur as it doesn't refresh the image at 60hz until 16.6ms has gone. The crt refreshes in a different way and so suffers from zero motion blur on movement. The colours won't look the same if they aren't calibrated in the menus. Maybe the colour setting on the crt needed pumping up or it has washed out colours over composite cables, the menu settings should help.

What are the models of the displays you are using

why not use RGB scart?

thanks alot :D for this video!!!!!!!!

Pretty good video. Careful with the CRT choice tho, as iirc all widescreen models were digital, not analog, and so they do the very same upscaling to a lesse extent. They essentially take the 240p signal and interpret it as 480i, which causes some loss of quality and minute lag. The absolute best quality possible for retro pre-xbox era consoles is a Sony PVM or BVM, hooked directly from the RGB feed bypassing the signal conversion entirely. Would cost an arm and a leg tho ^^

How you connected the Xbox to the 4K TV?

Good job buddy. 8:45 I notice that the yellow square that appears on the game map appears on the screen a few milliseconds before the rest of the screens.

Isn't there third party component cable for the GC?

I have an hdmi cable into a monitor for my console and they all look like I smeared Vaseline on the screen, how does yours look so clear???

Does anyone want to help me out ? I'm using component cables but on my 4k TV the color disappears? Is there anyway to fix this ?

you could also do a softmod on the Xbox and have it output 720p or 1080i from the component cable. i have do that to my Xbox and at least going form Xbox to onkyo tx-nr579 as 720p component and from onkyo to my 1080p Panasonic TX-L47ET5Y, picture quality on original xbox titles is amazing. even when playing older nes or say mega drive titles on coinops emulator on the xbox, those old titles look great on 720p.

I got a CRT for 8 and 16 bit emulation and still use crt shader filters, because I can't play at native resolution. Thats somehow strange, using crt filter on a crt monitor. :D

I have seen a lot of crt tvs lol My grandparents had two crts in their apartment! and I had a small Philips crt. I have a roadstar crt today and yeah its a bit.. "rare" But I love my crt

I use a PSP Go on my TV, using dock accessory which also charges the PSP Go, all tho you can get component cable accessory, since the PSP Go has Bluetooth you can connect a PS3 controller to it, clever

The 1080p Monitor had the best color in my opinion. I'd choose the 1080p Monitor and the CRT for sure. I wonder what model/brand is it if any one knows, for the 1080p Monitor.

I've been playing my PS2 on my 4K through component and honestly its so pixelated. It is giving me a massive headache. It looks dreadful. I don't have an AV input so I can't use my AV cable.

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I think you really have to be playing these older consoles via a SCART connection when running them on a CRT TV, which was the best connection for consumer CRT TVs that was available at the time as far as I'm aware, at least in the UK, and certainly the one I used wherever possible, or else you're not doing it right imo. And I also think you should just stick to playing on newer TVs via HDMI whenever possible since that's what they are built around, and not using that connection isn't doing the new display full justice either. If you play via SCART on the CRT TV and HDMI on the new HDTV, comparing the best version of each picture available to normal consumers on these consoles running on the different displays, so you can show them off in their best light and do them full justice, then it will be a truly fair and telling comparison imo. And, just to be clear, I think the CRT TV will utterly wipe the floor with the HDTVs in such as case (especially if you can get your hands on an HD capable CRT TV, because obviously it's kinda impossible to properly downscale a game made for really high resolutions to a screen that can't even run at that resolution and not lose a whole lot of detail). But, if you're running actual old consoles, like a NES, SNES, Genesis, N64, PS1, etc, through a CRT TV and SCART it will utterly destroy trying to upscale them and run them on whatever modern TV you choose, even if you use various conversion boxes and whatever other crap, which usually only make them output sharp but lose everything else that is needed to make them actually look right, and indeed run without any lag whatsoever. These guys have a great video for showing how good modern games can look when run through a proper CRT TV that's actually capable of supporting them properly: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jJ5yibd53cmYfIE.html

So actually the best my PlayStation 2 has ever looked was on this big grey flat screen. I don't know what kind of technology it had or the resolution but I have yet to find a TV that can give such a good image for PS2. And that was using the Yellow White Red cable, or composite idk what they call it(my PS3 used to have a similar 3 connector cable but it was Green White Red). Anyway I've been looking for that same grey TV, it could've been plasma or just a really low resolution LCD but it died when I was away and my parents threw it away so there's no way of knowing what brand or model it was

Why not just get Scart RGB cables for the GC, Wii, PS2 and Xbox? Flat screen TV's have Scart.