A Leaking Weil-McLain Model LGB Gas Fired Steam Boiler - They Don't Seem To Last Long, Do They?

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Silent Steam Team

Жыл бұрын

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@davidlampe4153
@davidlampe4153 Жыл бұрын
900 square feet of edr and 1600 on the boiler rating plate and probably needs at least 1000 now that the pipe insulation is gone in the basement. Basement is going to be toasty and warm and rest will be drafty and cool. Thanks for answering my earlier questions about size of the boiler and the bonus about the return piping and the old device’s that return with the steam powered pump as long as the water quality is good it would work forever.
@pb7379-j2k
@pb7379-j2k Жыл бұрын
Pipes emit very little heat compared to radiators. There’s plenty of slop in the net sq ft calculation
@rustyshakleford5230
@rustyshakleford5230 Жыл бұрын
6 section boiler in a 900sqft house! Thats ridiculous.
@gordonschweizer5154
@gordonschweizer5154 Жыл бұрын
But, but it was downfired bigtime because there wasn't enough gas flow thru the way undersized gas meter, so it's all good (😀.
@dannywilkins887
@dannywilkins887 Жыл бұрын
4” copper- on steam,still good for the scrap sack
@pb7379-j2k
@pb7379-j2k Жыл бұрын
Are you doing away with the pump and check valves I hope? I’d like to see an autopsy of that valve
@gordonschweizer5154
@gordonschweizer5154 Жыл бұрын
Since they are not actively leaking, they are going to stay for the time being. The return trap has been valved off.
@scottk0623
@scottk0623 Жыл бұрын
You can go a single 3” supply on the 6 section. I can’t believe you have already waited since April 🤦🏻unreal. Good luck stay well.
@gordonschweizer5154
@gordonschweizer5154 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. So, it looks like the installers over-sized the main. I guess 3" looked too small going into that old 4" coal-age header. More scrap for us. We're planning to use a 4" header, too, but in steel. They finially got the boiler into the warehouse for delivery to the jobsite. I wonder what condition it's in?
@scottk0623
@scottk0623 Жыл бұрын
@@gordonschweizer5154 better yet what’s missing 🤦🏻
@gordonschweizer5154
@gordonschweizer5154 Жыл бұрын
@@scottk0623 And what was missing, you ask? The burner! Not Weil McLain's fault. It's still at the warehouse.
@mikerefrigeration5736
@mikerefrigeration5736 Жыл бұрын
Whats the deal with the copper? Is it acceptable as long as its piped correctly or no?
@gordonschweizer5154
@gordonschweizer5154 Жыл бұрын
The use of soldered copper piping for steam carrying near boiler piping is, shall we say, contraversial. Boiler manufacturers will not go on record one way or the other. Their reps will say one thing to me (copper BAD!) and something different to someone else ("copper is OK & thank you for choosing our products").
@mikerefrigeration5736
@mikerefrigeration5736 Жыл бұрын
@@gordonschweizer5154 ty!
@fvgametest
@fvgametest Жыл бұрын
I have LGB-10 Steam. I just found out that it is leaking inside. Called for new . Waiting time is 22-25 weeks. Do you think it is safe to use this my old one or I have to shut it down?
@gordonschweizer5154
@gordonschweizer5154 Жыл бұрын
Since I can't be there with you, I can only give you my semi-educated guesses, so here goes: I assume this for a condo/coop or apartment? There might be a lot of souls at stake. How badly is it leaking? Do you have some kind of metering on water usage? If you need to fill it every hour or less, then no, you might be tempting fate. If you haven't already, upgrade the main venting to allow you to operate at the lowest pressure possible, shoot for 1/2 psi. Set it to run on low fire. That's the ONE good thing about The Notorious LGB : hi-lo firing. Round up/ track down ALL known fixable leaks/failed open radiator vents, packing nuts, union nuts. If you haven't already, insulate your mains. Run the system as little as possible, Turn the t-stat way down. Have a professional take apart and thoroughly clean & test your low water cut offs. Check both primary and secondary LWCO at least once/day now. You do have two LWCOs, right? Keep a log of all blow-downs and repairs to CYA. When the new boiler finally arrives (Another LGB? How was it sized? Was a PROPER radiation count done?), make sure it is installed PROPERLY using threaded steel to allow for stress relief. LGBs fail due to the combination of the death by ten-thousand little leaks (and underground mains), and friggin' welded headers acting like a giant crow-bar twisting the boiler apart with every firing cycle.
@fvgametest
@fvgametest Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your answer. Company came and replaced old LGB 10 steam boiler. Old one has a hole in. The problem now that water in bouncing in sight glass. They did skimming 2 times. Put some chemicals in and still bouncing. Right now boiler is off and water level shows that boiler is filled full with water. I know thatis not good. Any opinions?
@gordonschweizer5154
@gordonschweizer5154 Жыл бұрын
@@fvgametest What sort of auto feeder do you have? Is the near boiler piping installed correctly? Might need to drain & refill a few more times.
@fvgametest
@fvgametest Жыл бұрын
@@gordonschweizer5154 do you mean completely drain and refill? All paints installed exactly as was before. It was working with old boiler.
@gordonschweizer5154
@gordonschweizer5154 Жыл бұрын
@@fvgametest Yes, I'd drain & refill and see if that improves the steam quality. You might have to do that a couple of times to get the water soluble detergents out of the boiler that were put there by the manufacturing process. The installers might have to return a few more times to do more skimming also.
@pmhomeimprovement8684
@pmhomeimprovement8684 8 ай бұрын
Hey do you turn water off of LGB#4 after it fills?
@gordonschweizer5154
@gordonschweizer5154 8 ай бұрын
I am sorry I can't say because I can't see your system. There should be a shut-off valve on your water supply to your boiler somewhere?
@pmhomeimprovement8684
@pmhomeimprovement8684 8 ай бұрын
@@gordonschweizer5154 it is but when I filled it up and run it the pressure goes up to 8 psi and shuts down until I open drain to it's goes to 5psi and cuts back on please help me out?
@pmhomeimprovement8684
@pmhomeimprovement8684 8 ай бұрын
@@gordonschweizer5154 it's also have an loop fill# in coming city water but also have a valve on the loop as well!
@gordonschweizer5154
@gordonschweizer5154 8 ай бұрын
You might have to call someone local.
@oldhandyluke
@oldhandyluke Жыл бұрын
How old was this boiler?
@gordonschweizer5154
@gordonschweizer5154 Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna say maybe 17 years
@oldhandyluke
@oldhandyluke Жыл бұрын
@@gordonschweizer5154 wow I'm only 2 years ahead of that boiler, that's ridiculous.
@egold1006
@egold1006 Жыл бұрын
My Burnham Jubilee just turned 62 years old. Still have the bill, $1250.00 installed.
@oldhandyluke
@oldhandyluke Жыл бұрын
@@egold1006 how are the fuel bills?
@egold1006
@egold1006 Жыл бұрын
@@oldhandyluke This is one of another heating system I use. Average fuel bill around $350.00 a month. I would guess it could reach $500.00 or more if it was the only heating source. I did update the Jubilee, installed a new firebox and new burner.
@Guyhakverdi
@Guyhakverdi Жыл бұрын
Were you sarcastic when you commented on 101A?
@gordonschweizer5154
@gordonschweizer5154 Жыл бұрын
Yes. I hate 'em. I think the 101a should no longer be made. But people keep buying them, so McDonnell & Miller cynically keeps on making them. And, they cost more than the VXT Feeder!
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