Scotts looking more and more human every video

One of my favorite parts of the chapter are the map interactions tbh. It feels so nice to have actual things to do specific to it, on top of the easter eggs, and the mix between indoor and outdoor map.

One my favorite things about this chapter is the experimentation they did with the map, like the cat popping out of lockers and the new secret frost trap that survivors can use against the killer in the indoor section!

The irony that survivors have stronger traps than trapper.

Expecting a 25 minute or less video of Scott composing a better chase theme that's around a 5 second loop

I literally cannot remember when was the last new good map they have released. This chapter with that alone surpasses like 3 years of previous chapters

From the way this new chapter plays, it feels like it's been in development for a long time. No rushing = better content. Please keep it up BHVR, we know you can do it

Hey Scott I think I tested some new info on how the tail strike works. The tail has a lingering hitbox only if you do not hit an obstacle with the strike. If you hit an obstacle then the hitbox ends immediately. This is unlike nemesis where the hitbox lingers no matter what. There's a different recovery animation for when you strike on obstacle and don't strike an obstacle for the entire duration of the hitbox. If you strike an obstacle then the tail wiggles a bit on its end. If you do not strike an obstacle then the tail cleanly recedes back into position.

I think the turrets are fine as is. The main reason they seem strong right now is because they are new. Just like other Killers, you can bring 'training wheels' add-ons to understand the turrets. Then when you learn the Killer, you will learn frequent choke points where people place turrets, and can break them without impacting chase too heavily. Since the turrets are limited to 4 map wide, if a Survivor is chaining turrets back to back, their team still has to take the time to grab and place them is useful areas. It's kinda like Hag/Trapper/Ghostface/Singularity where the best counterplay is 2 people pumping gens, 1 in chase, and 1 'harassing' the Killer's power. Most people don't bother with that though, so they just do the 3 gen 1 chase and slowly lose as a result.

Easily the best killer and chapter since Project W.

The coolest thing about the chase music is that its similar to the theme used when the nostromo was self destructing, so it kinda has that urgency vibes that the movie had

The xenomorph looks so much fun, easily the most excited I've been for any killer they've released since I started playing. I think it'll end up being slightly stronger than nemmy simply because map traversal plays well with some stronger killer perks, but it's not going to be threatening the top spots either. I love the more interactive antiloop too, making antiloop something you have to aim and can potentially miss is far better design than something you set and forget in my opinion.

If you tunnel and emerge on the 2nd floor on rpd, if a survivor is right above you on 1st floor the surv can see an "Alien Missle" for like 2 frames in the air while traveling up its great 👍

I think the flamethrowers are so fast that with ping and human reaction times you can be knocked out of your power before you even realize. However since it only knocks you out of runner mode, it doesn't actually slow or stun I don't think its super problematic.

Even playing the PTB yesterday, most matches I had people were just super happy to be playing it, win or lose. The new chapter is a great step in the right direction, I just hope BHVR continues to chase that feeling.

Another minor flamethrower complaint - after exiting a tunnel they are deactivated for a couple seconds, but during this time they cant be destroyed. There have been many times where I exit, smack it with my tail, it doesnt get destroyed, then activates and burns me and im sad

Also fun trivia about nemesis hitbox. The way it works is many sequential very flat hitboxes. Otz has a video about the hitting through tiny gaps tech that was discovered, and it explains why sometime you try to use lingering hitbox to break a pallet and it just completely whiffs.

Absolutely on board with the turret add-on necessity to counter turret power issues. Opting for the range extension add-on seems smarter, allowing closer positioning before firing kicks in. Combining both ensures a frustration-free turret experience.

I love everything about this character, except the Chase Music. My God why is there ANOTHER washing machine track? Thought we were already over this with Ghost Face. I hope they change it.

Tail whip is like a more precise nemesis strike, I'm really excited for it as a nemmy main

Scott, you are the only person I've ever once heard refer to the Normandy Crash Site DLC. In 10+ years. Wanted to point that out. (Side note: why was such a somber DLC essentially a scavenger hunt that lasts about 10 minutes?)

Was waiting for this since yesterday keep up the good work scott

4:20 So happy to get confirmation. I've been trying to figure out the tail attack for a while now. Sometimes it hits, sometimes it doesn't. Most of all it feels super janky.

Apparently the chase theme is a mix of the original Nostromo alarm and the DBD chase theme- which is cool. I wish it was longer, but it makes sense why it loops.

The purple add-on where you become undectable for 20 seconds if a turret breaks you out of runner mode combined with the brown add on where if a turret takes you out of runner mode gets automatically destroyed. To me is a good combo that gives you at least a benefit if you lose your power

Xenomorph seems perfect tbh, this is the only chapter I've been looking forward to for a very long time. Yeah he needs some adjustments, but he just looks so fun to play.

"It looks like survivors are playing trapper" got me rolling ngl

It's odd, because what they did with Xenomorph's tunnels are exactly what I wanted for the Demogorgon, but it is still cool to see it in the game nonetheless, and works really well on Xenomorph. That tail attack is pretty neat too, and reminds me of one of my favorite things about Nemesis.

12:26 I'll keep saying it until I'm blue in the mouth: The composer put their literal soul into Wesker's chase theme, and the hollow shell that is left cannot make anything beyond .5 second loops anymore.

Xenomorph would beat up Demogorgon

The chase music is the alarm of the spaceship in the movie with the rhythm changed for chase music

8:14 in my experience, it is actually possible to hit the turrets with a basic attack before they take you out of runner mode, but it legitimately leaves you within a quarter or so of a second of being taken out, and the times I pulled it off may have been due to walls or survivors blocking it’s true range, so I’m not entirely sure if it’s possible to do so in every scenario

I noticed the chase music watching Otz, it genuinely sounds like another Skull Merchant washing machine.

Just wanted to say love your vids Scott you’re my fav dbd player and honestly feels like your the only one who really gets how the game flows

That's super interesting with the hitbox, very unclear animation but I like how flexible it is if you can hit the timing I hope they keep that. I also completely agree with the turret argument. I watched a lot of VHS content in the past and the turret is similar to some of the weapons in the game so I have a feel for the right spot/spacing to place the turret so it catches the killer turning a corner at a choke point or something and is ideally in a different direction of the direction they'll want to be going (so they have to react faster and go further out of their way to avoid being fully damaged), but isn't close enough to where the killer will come from so that it will get hit before fully damaging the killer. And every time I've seen a survivor place a turret next to them at a gen or loop near the gen or something my gut was screaming "that's way too close to the corner, it'll be able to hit it on reaction even if it catches it by surprise" but it'll put it out of runner mode anyway. If they made that addon basekit, it would force survivors to think and plan ahead more and strategically place their turrets. I'm like 95% satisfied with it's kit, it's super cool and looks like fun, but the playstyle was different than I was expecting which is where my only slight disappointments lie. Like, it isn't actually faster in any way while in Runner Mode and I wish stealth was a bigger part of it's power (if you didn't know, the turrets beep more and more frequently the closer the Xenomorph is to it, and idk for sure but it might beep through undetectable too. It's very cool and can freak you out, but I don't like how it kills any stealth build you wanna make for it) The ideas below are some ideas I had for that, one of which is pretty crazy but something smaller but still nice could totally be done instead. - Buff the stealth aspect of the kit (Runner Mode Terror Radius is 16m or less, turret beeping stops if Xenomorph is undetectable with exception to being in the tunnels, turrets start beeping 8m further than the Xenomorph's terror radius would begin (so it still has a use but you can actually sneak up on people)) - Make the changes you suggested (make that yellow addon basekit, fix the music ;w;) - Give the Xenomorph a Dash ability while in Runner Mode where it starts in a galop, running forward very quickly with a low turn rate (think Hillbilly's Chainsaw Sprint), and attacking during this dash would let you aim briefly and then pounce in the direction you're looking and damage a survivor hit (like how you can turn and lunge after Blight's Rush, would kinda play out like Hillbilly + Blight), and whether or not this pounce hits a survivor, Runner Mode then goes on cooldown so you can't just do it all the time (like when you pick up a survivor, not the full cooldown just for a bit, but it'd have a bigger cooldown than picking people up is). (Also hitting a wall with the dash or pounce would incur a longer recovery and Runner Mode would go on a longer cooldown, and you can still be hit by the flamethrower during your dash which would cancel it if you get hit enough, so there's mindgaming/juking/turret placement counterplay but it'd still be strong). Perhaps the tail attack or other parts of the kit could be nerfed in compensation if necessary. This would make the killer literally perfect imo. These changes would shift it's playstyle in the direction I was hoping for with an awesome high risk/reward dash+pounce which is super thematic and would be really fun to master and with better stealth that's easier to work into your playstyle, and it wouldn't be overpowered because Turrets act as natural counterplay. Either way though, no killer needs to be "literally perfect" to be amazing, I love this killer and am super excited for this chapter.

A metaphors for the tail whip is “like casting an incredibly short rod” from my experience.

You can block hooks with the flamethrower. I imagine they’ll change it bc the hook has a radius around it that won’t let you place anything and you have to place it right on the edge of that radius

When Scott was talking about the flame turrets being hard to see I instantly thought of burning a dead dog map offering and place those things in the bushes

Xenomilf is a combo of demo and nemesis, which are my two most played killers, the map is wonderful

THEY'RE SO COOOOL! As a demo main, I'm incredibly jealous :( Really wish he had a proper upsidown tunnel system & quadruped animations.

I noticed in this video you could flashlight as the xeno came out of tunnel, pretty nifty to remember.

what is also cool about this chapter, it doesn´t matter which map you are in, the hooks all have this Xenomorph goo over them. It´s like in the early days of DbD were Trapper, Wraith, Billy and Nurse had unique hooks

I actually had a different impression about the fire. I thought how long the fire took to take you out of your power was fine. You can still take it out via m1 in many cases. I did think it should take just a tiny bit longer to get your power back if its taken away by flame, though. It's a pretty oppressive ability in chase, and I think getting caught by the flame should affect it just a few moments longer. But they definitely should make it more visible to the killer so it can be dealt with.

I think that The Chase music is supposed to have a couple musical notes from the movie or so I've heard

I think the turrets should give a warning beep one second before it shoots you and maybe give you the directional arrows that ghostface gives when someone is revealing him.

I really like the nuance of the tail... That's what sold me on the chapter. The weird hits are exhilarating.

One of the things I'm looking forward to trying is placing flame turrets in the Dead Dawg bushes.

The interesting thing to me is that while vsing Xeno, I’d see and hear it get hit by the flame turret and it wouldn’t knock it out of runner mode even though it audibly screeched. I feel like the flame turrets are kind of broken right now. Hopefully it becomes more clear when it reaches live

The chase music is like 2 lumberjacks with a giant saw going back and forth on a tree

I believe the chase music is actually based on the Nostromo's alarm

Nemesis uses dual P90's that he hip-fire sprays and so can hit anything waist downwards, and if one single bullet hits a survivor, they get infected/injured. And since he's dual hip-firing, can can't aim up or down, but can sweep sideways. Xeno however, is more mature and has a burst-fire quake lightning gun, which he stops firing if he hits something other than a survivor first because he doesn't want to damage the environment.

Using the tail to break the turrets usually allows you to not lose the power. Yeah you lose distance because of the long miss cooldown, but at least you don't lose it

you can drag the hitbox with a strafe just like Nemesis does as well as long as you don't hit a wall I'm pretty sure you drag it even faster than him too

In case you didn't get to see it, the tail also pierces and can hit multiple survivors.

the chase theme does make some sense as its based on the emergency self destruct alarm from the 1st film but yeah it does get a bit annoying to hear over and over again

At 5:44 you said you don't drag your body around during the tail, but you can do that too. Walking left or right drags the hitbox with you actively until it retracts. You just can't turn your orientation left or right while doing it.

Something that takes the new map from being "Nice" to "Amazing is the fact that theres an actual interactive element to it! Midwich/RPD might have jumpscares, but this is a map where you can actually set up/fall victim to a trap! Walking past a steam pipe in the ship blasts you and the killer, significantly slowing you down, and survivors can access a panel to speed up it's recharge. I hope they play around with more map elements like this, its exactly the sort of thing that can help spice up the normal gameplay loop.

you can hear while in demos portals, and it obviously fits what demo's portals are supposed to evoke; if demos portals had just been this the whole time it would have made perfect sense. The icon for demo's power is literally a stylized depiction of the tunnels it crawls around in

Yeah I thought his chase theme was the sound of some sort of mechanical whirring in the background at first haha

Just from 1 day playing as and against him I gotta say he feels fun from both sides. His tail power feels pretty fair with a built in counter and going in the tunnel to track is cool. Using flamethrowers against him is hilarious and some of the most fun I've had in a long while.

Next upload better be the Scott's original chase music for the killer

Also: I /love/ the design shift to adding counterplay mechanics that force survivors to be proactive. I have a lot of trouble playing the Singularity despite really liking him because his cameras just can't see survivors if there's a leaf in the way and I find EMP's very frustrating, BUT I also see that as a 'me' problem, the EMP's and flame turrets are really good design IMO, aside from being coo lmechanics that work differently enough not to feel reptitive. I hope they keep going for it!

From my testing with bots, the tail hitbox can be dragged like nemmy whip. I did it alot of times where I use the tail attack and then either press A or D to move left or right and it hits the survivor almost every time.

One thing i think they should change on survivor vs the xeno is the flame thrower. When in the radius of the camera if you look towards it its like a strobe affect that i could see affect ppl susceptible to seizures. Should just be like a boon although a different colour tinge.

imagine if there was an addon where u start in a tunnel, that could be really cool

Blight, nemesis and wesker has perfect chase music i think

The only problem I have encountered so far is the size limit of the flamethrowers on maps like rpd, since the hallways are not big enough to accommodate the large radius. Haven’t yet tried it on the other indoor map but I assume I will get a similar outcome.

I wish the Xenomorph had the ability to vault windows faster while in runner mode like tier 2 and tier 3 Myers, it increases its anti-loop ability and also fits its concept well. Although it has a purple addon to increase vaulting speed by 30% faster, I wish it became the basekit or at least 15% faster (like Bamboozle) without that addon.

I love the tunnels and I wish they would change Demo's Portals so it makes more sense, like Demogorgon entering an "upside down" version of the map, which is the same map, but in a different color (kinda like Freddy's Dream World), and Demo can't see the survivors, but hear or see the generators that are being worked on. Also Survivors being able to enter the portals/upside down would be fun too, they would get exposed/debuffed over time but getting a speed buff on gens/totems or something. I hope they get the license back at some point to work on Demo's design, he's my favorite killer and I think he could be more fun.

With the aim dragging mechanic, would you think it may be possible to slightly hit around corners? Basically doing the same movement but horizontally instead of vertically, idk just a thought

Barb's Heart and Black Glasses, my favorite Demogorgon addons!

Honestly, they could start by literally just pointing the tail downwards so the tip aims at the middle of the screen. It would also suggest that the tail will come down from where it starts, which would at least make ME subconsciously aim a bit higher and probably hit more shots

I think for the benefits you get of having your power and how easily your taken out you should be a stronger in some aspect like if you're just undectable in your power but they have flamethrower to basically warn them if you're coming I think that'd be pretty cool and maybe a meter or 2 of extra length for the tail, either that or nerf the flamethrower a bit but buffs are better than nerfs

I think they made the chase theme like that is cause of the alarms in the movies

hes rly cool and i like how similar he is to demo, probably gonna main him

You can M1 the turrets with no add-ons and keep runner mode. You just need to swing around a corner/cover (obviously you need to know where it is first) not easy but very possible

I can’t believe BHVR brought *The* Washing Machine back to compose the Xenomorph’s chase theme

Honestly pheonimal killer, just needs a few tweaks, slightly nerf the flame throwers so they aren't too oppresive and make the tail attack a bit more clear on where its hitting on the killer end annd bam solid b+ killer

I'm admittedly not super hyped for Xenomorph, since in general I'm not the biggest fan of safe, straightforward chase+mobility killers, but for what it is, the killer is pretty well designed. I will say though that I really like what new stuff it _does_ bring to the table; like tracking survivors from underground by the sounds they make, or the fact that, for once you have to watch out for traps the SURVIVORS set, in the form of the turrets. Say what you want about em, but having to work around them really helps me get in the mood of a clever predator, dismantling the traps humans set for it

That new save the best combo is gonna be lit on ghost face

No, you can still strafe drag with the tail similar to nemesis. It's just less egregious as opposed to nemesis.

Didn't know this guy played dbd let alone a youtuber, loved you in the expanse

This alien was definitely programmed to harm the crew.

People compare Xeno's teleport to Demo's also because you both have to go to a portal first and then select where you wanna teleport to. I don't think anyone's arguing the tunnel system is the same as Demo's lol

i have a feeling the flamethrowers are gonna be like the emp were you get it so fast the killer doesn't have a chance to use its power

They need to give him dredges chase theme. Actually every killer. He has the best in the game IMO

Only thing I'll change isadd like 2-3 meters to flame turret but when u exit a tunnel u can break them right away

the chase theme is giving me flashbacks to the ptb ghostface music 😭

8:47 Hitting a turret is not a missed attack, it is the same as hitting a wall. This also means unrelenting will not work on hitting turrets.

I think killers with inate build in counter: Wesker, Singularity, Nemesis etc. Can be really tricky to balance. I think the turrets are very cool and actually make the killer think with their brain. But it's kind of annoying just randomly walking in to a turret. They blend in pretty well with the map / survivors can set them up in ways where it's hard to see them. The easiest way to fix this is for the Xenomorph be able to see the aura of turrets within 12 meters so they can atleast react fast enough with a tail attack. In a chase the Xenomorph still has to enter a cooldown after hitting the turret meaing a survivor will gain distance although their counter got destroyed.

Theres another yellow addon thats very useful that reduces the flame distance by 2 meters. It makes it small enough so you can melee the turret without losing nearly all your charges I also don't think the flame turrets should beep as the alien gets closer; it defeats the entire purpose of having a smaller TR when in runner; I think the chase music is good, it sounds like the alien soundtrack and has the alarm klaxon from the Nostromo self destruct sequence

Idk how behavior makes these killers and maps so cool and so fast, like I haven’t even got used to the robot yet! It must be hard asf making new perks and whole killers every couple months but this is easily my fav chapter so far! Best map ever too they really delivered

Nemesis will be an even more irrelevant killer than ever, after Xenomorph comes to Live servers

Look at us scott were the skull merchant now

Lets talk about how they teased the map because usually on the official trailers if there is a map it will say “new killer , new survivor , new map” in the alien trailer it did not i was surprised when i saw the offering for it

I can't believe they brought back Ghostfaces washing machine for the chase music

It's feels as good as Wesker really good feeling about this

This tunneling system on alien should've been on the demogorgon with the upsidedown

i wish the m1 attack recovery was cooler, like demo where the hands come on screen and hisses or something

I tried alien out on the controller and the tail hit felt so easy to use. You can strafe the hit a little bit. But it felt so good to use. If anything I think the flame throwers need a bit of a buff more punishing towards knocking him out of his power. Cause throwing on one yellow add on I didn’t ever get knock out running straight towards the flamethrower and hitting it. I kinda hard disagree the turrets are either fine or need to punish a bit more. It should counter your power. Also even if you don’t use the add on you get your power back so fast that it doesn’t buy them much time.