This is super strange I just watched a video from Savagegeese saying this is a CVT but you guys are saying it isn't a CVT. Which is it?

@@FSX239 it's not a band type CVT. It's an "ecvt" there are no gears, it electric off the line, then switches between ev/hybrid/gas while driving.

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@@FSX239 The popular usage of many technical terms does not quite match their correct definitions. Which causes confusion when technology changes. Like your confusion here. For example, "transmission" means the act of transmitting power from one place (the engine) to another (the wheels). But the device in a car that is called "the transmission" is known more for the fact that it can change the gear ratio (that is, ENGINE_RPM/WHEEL_RPM) while accomplishing this act, than the act itself. Most transmissions do it in discrete steps. A "CVT," or "Continuously Variable Transmission," means one that can vary the ratio continuously. What you are thinking of, when you say "CVT," is probably a transmission that uses pulleys and belts (or chains). It works only in low-power vehicles, has characteristics that some find annoying, and can be unreliable. That isn't what is in this car. So in the sense you are probably thinking, it does not have a CVT. In most situations, this car is serial hybrid. The engine drives a generator, not the wheels. The car is propelled by only an electric motor, not the engine. It is, in correct technical terms, an electric vehicle. But it is not a "battery electric vehicle," it is a "battery plus generator" electric vehicle. So, while the engine is running, there is no meaningful relationship between its RPM and the wheels' RPM. You can still calculate the ratio of the two, and it does "vary continuously," but it has no significance. Still, the EPA requires the car's sticker to list what type of "transmission" it has. So "CVT" is correct, even though it does not have pulleys and belts, or even a device that you would call "the transmission." [The exception is at highway speeds, when the car is not accelerating. A clutch engages to make it a parallel hybrid instead of a serial hybrid. The engine is connected *_directly_* to the wheels by a fixed gear ratio, MPH=RPM/37, The engine produces 34 horsepower, not what the car needs. The traction motor, which can also act as a generator, adjusts this to the power needed by the wheels by either charging, or discharging, the battery.]

The $27,295 price is for the non hybrid accord. The actual starting price for the hybrid accord is $31,895 US for the Sport Hybrid.

Agreed.

Agreed I've had the opportunity to rent the Accord twice. Once with Avis it was brand new and recently with hurts that one had 20,000 miles. I was going to dismiss the car because I only got 33 mi to the gallon on the one that was brand new. But on the one that had 20,000 mi on it. I got 43.8mpg. so I guess the new one that I rented previously had not been broken yet. I like the car but it's pouring outside and the brand new Camry I saw at the auto show in la, is just as outside.

Doesnt it take like 3 to 5 years to recoup the cost of hybrid? Coz hybrid cars are expensive and fuel savings will kick in after 3 years apparently according to few articles I read.

No. Compare it to the average car price.@@blasttrash

@@blasttrashthe hybrids of today are only slightly more expensive. Personally I use to hate on hybrids until I was inherited a Prius. lol Surprisingly it essentially operated like any other car. Only noticeable difference was I got great mileage on each tank. Car wasn’t slow either. I wouldn’t get a full electric car but hybrids are pretty great.

Don’t know if CarPlay is in the cluster also, I think just the integrated Google maps, @thestraightpipes can you confirm?

I have it in my Audi and it is impressive the first month. Now i use the standard center display. It is a nice feature to have.

Welcome to 2017 😂

It's going to be a subscription service which they didn't mention

It's a gimmick. I prefer the turn-by-turn navigation in the gauge cluster and/or the Heads-Up-Display (Apple Maps works w/ it) -- that's really functional.

I agree with you on that! Honda will need to make some styling updates.

Even that won’t solve the plain and boring look.

Styling updates and an Accord Type R would help....This under powered nonsense has got to go!! Boring indeed!

Honda is like most Japanese automakers. They are not putting in effort into sedans. Don't hold your breath waiting on a Type R. What you see is what you get. The days of the really sport sedan is over. The Accord isn't a sports sedan

@@Batt44us it’s a fucking accord dude 😂😂 not a sports car. Even the 2.0t is not fast stock. I have a 2.0 FBO and for the power I’m making it’s still not fast compared to other sedans at my power level. Just get something else

This car has a reserved style that looks good but blends in everywhere it goes. Kind of like Hondas from the 90s.

I agree based on the TLX good looks but I find the Integra to look like a bloated whale. Why didn't Civics go more hybrid and the Integra go sport? Integra has nice interior but not sporty and light like the original Integra.

Exactly!!! The ‘90s hondas everyone loves have very simple styling like this too

Toyota is usually the more reserved one but they both kinda battle it out

This looks aged already

Nailed it (I'm biased since I have a 2017 Accord hybrid)!

2017 ftw

Same. 2016 was beautiful.

@@ckavan93 How about the 2 door? I like the looks of 2 door Accords the best!

it's a shame they could never make it look very good imo

They have in Europe. You can get the fourth generation "Jazz" as it's known here, with a 1.5 litre 4 cylinder + Honda's e:HEV system, it's good for the equivalent of 51 mpg (US)

They can but they didn't want to simple as that. But most hybrid sedans do around 55 miles and and has to be cheap to beat or compete with the Corolla and Camry

@@eamonbrannigan Many people favor the Jazz looks over all other Hondas. This is worldwide thing. The front end of the Fit was epic

@@TheAnnoyingBoss yeah I agree with you. The accord has gone downward in performance and looks imo. The 9.5th gen accord sedan and coupe with the j series 3.5 is forever the best accord

Honda needs to bring back the natrually aspirated 3.0L v6 toyota wont sell. My 07 accord sedan with 3.0L v6 has less injectors than a base camry of today but 2 more cylinders. Honda has an accord that undercuts a 2.5L camry and now all their missing is a v6 that undercuts toyotas v6 gatekeepting with their trd stonewall on the v6s. A 3.0L v6 again would give a slightly lighter engine too, you get the smoothness but more power than a 2.5L camry so itll handle better than the 3.5L camry in the corners but also be faster than a 2.5L camry. Higher quality but less price because to get the v6 in toyota if you dont want trd yiu have to pay for a luxury model and we dont want that. We wantna timeless dead reliable no extra fluff v6 that is above an LE camry but below an xse camry and undercuts a trd v6 with half a liter less displacement but also less cost and you dont hsvr yo have stuffer suspension. Honda does good steering setup anyway. We need a v6 in a daily driver thats not a trd and is more affordable judt like my 07 accord sedan. It has caste aluminum air intake. Why did they care about quality under the hood more in 2007? Its gotta last. The 07 accord sedan v6s werent what they couldve been. Theyre still what toyota wont sell today so thst goes to show old honda was better than new toyota. I like my 3.0L v6 accord

Thank Biden and the EPA

@@mmr0221 or it didn't sell well

@@steve9377 it sold more than well enough

@@mmr0221 It's an Accord lmao

@@mmr0221 what?? 😭😭 i dont like biden either trust but hes not the reason the 2.0t is gone it literally because the hybrid sold wayyy more than the others

The front of the Accord looks very similar to the Civic sold in Europe.

It’s so bland but I love the design! It’s somehow really clean in person

I agree, in person it’s a head turner…for some reason haha on camera it looks bland

Me too totally diappointing honda 😢😢

it looks GREAT

It looked oks great in person. There’s a reason Ferraris look awesome and it’s because they don’t use a million jagged, offset lines that don’t go well together. They keep their designs rounded and relatively conservative, with the only notable departure being the current Pilot which I think they missed the mark on.

I think they nailed the looks i just wish it was 250hp

Fighting to stay awake haha

Who's Yuri?

@@_ph4nt0mzz_47 dude they say their names before they get in the car.... Are you awake?

@@apexak bro it's a setup for a joke 💀💀. "Who's Yuri" "Yuri tarded" Kinda like the ligma joke. Lmfaoo are u sure YOU'RE awake??

@@_ph4nt0mzz_47 ah nice!

knowing honda, dont ever expect that feature ever in accords

No bro all that junk just jacks up the price. Its better to put the money in other spots if youre spending it.

I’m sure there some guy in Thailand already working on it. No joke

It would not help that much. Front end is yuck.

I already await the 2025 front end refresh

Thats just disgusting

In Alberta

I just think my 15 year old accord sedan costs like 1/5th and it has 50 more hp and so the savings is so high it well pays for the gas. I can actually drive them. I can burn through like 3 or 4 for the same price

You should sabatoge the assembly line until honda brings back the 2.0

@@texasblaze1016 exactly lol

Thank Biden and EPA

@@mmr0221 Toyota still has an NA V6 is the Camry - dropping the 2.0T is 100% on Honda, not the EPA.

@@mmr0221 They could’ve stuck with it so no, wont be “thanking” them.

yes for race cars yes it was great powertrain just like 2.0T so nice in GTI and Focus ST and AMG45 and Veloster N and the list goes on and on. Problem is fuel prices and the future. Better to sell generator that doubles fuel mileage for passenger cars. Too bad 2.0T cannot be had in a Honda under 50k now

@@jamesmedina2062 the 2.0t still got over 30mpg highway, not exactly a gas hog lol. And it wasn't tuned like a "race car" it was very focused on low-mid torque and building boost quick, fantastic in traffic and effortless crusing on the highway.

😂😂😂😂😂

I just worry its too slow to do some gurilla warefare strategy for an impending communist invasion scinario

And the front is a Genesis G90 (headlights)

For me, 9th generation looked best. 2012-2017.

@@norwegianblue2017 9th gen looked to boxxy and old. 10 gen is the ultimate honda styling with young and strong look

@@fahadnadir2403 The back end is stubby and ugly on the 10th. This recent trend among many car manufactures is to make sedans look like SUVs in the back. I don't get it. It is just bad design.

9th gen Accord was better

@@norwegianblue2017 lots of curvature is to stop the break up of air stream. The gaps are tighter as well and that makes cabin quieter as well. 10th gen cars had humongous gaps and very high road noise

From what I’ve gathered, You’re not in the minority for people who’ve seen this car this in person; but yes - for those who base their opinion from video clips on their phones, your opinion appears in the minority. My wife and I both did a “what is THAT car?” double-take on this one.

Yes the exterior sucks

I like it better than the previous model, but to each their own!

The rear is a lot better. I thought everyone hated the crab claws last gen

Exterior seems to be targeted to elderly audience tbh. I think once the camry redesign comes out, it'll be taking some accord fans.

@@Dolomite1 exactly. wth is that design. really disappointing

ha ha, my thoughts excatly

I’m all in for a wagon 💯

WHO won't buy a hybrid wagon Accord?

@@br9760 everyone because they want a massive suv to haul a bag of groceries and their dog around 😒

CB7 is nice company to be in. I owned 3 of those and they all lasted around 400k.....

Low power but tbh low power means less pressures, maybe itll last a long time.

V6 was the real fun

2.0 is quicker than the v6 bro

@@texasblaze1016 the sound tho

No one bought the 2.0

In my opinion the rear lights are better than the old one

Nope. New accord is better

Disagree

I think this new design language is better than the old

although i prefer the last gen’s looks, i think this design will age better.

Everything that isn’t all out performance is turning into an appliance. At least this is a good appliance

@@TheStraightPipes that’s a good analogy…an appliance!! Well I can say that my blender is a more attactive looking appliance!!!! This new accord is trash

@@TheStraightPipes LOL! Appliance - I love the description. Yeah. But with the 2.0T model, Honda turned that "appliance" into a sort of performance family sedan. It's surprisingly quick and fun to drive - I know, I have one. With the 2.0T 10th gen Accord, Honda appears to have said, "Why not make a family sedan "fun, sporty and quick?" Now with 11th gen, Honda said, "We were just JOKING! - NO FUN FOR YOU! It's like Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown. Honda: Are you listening? - this 11th gen has gotten soundly "booed" on most forums. Using baseball parlance, The 10th gen was a home run. This 11th gen is like a weak grounder to the pitcher only for Honda to get thrown out at first. If you have done this to steer more people who want a fun family sedan to drive in the direction of Accura - that's shabby indeed!

​@@Batt44us Agree 100%. I am so glad to drive 2018 2.0T Touring (no CVT). A sleeper, especially in the Sport mode.

@@peterkalos6271 the new Accord looks more aero and thats better than simply good looks that aren't aero. At least in my practical mind...

@@23chnge The design is the least of my worries to be honest. It’s the powertrain, drivetrain & transmission. They seem to be completely ignoring their younger audience who make up a majority of their sales. Competitive-wise they’re really behind. Why hasn’t Honda introduced an AWD system for the Accord or Civic? Why are they going backwards when it comes to the performance area? It’s awful.

@@GhalaZoy maybe some younger people will be upset, I know I wanted the last gen turbo one but would never be able to afford it. Now that I am living on my own, with the cost of gas the hybrid is appealing to me and I'm in my mid 20s.

Yeah, looks boring AF

@@perturbed_pineapple I agree to be honest I see where you’re coming from. But they should at least have an option where they cater to a performance oriented crowd as well as the opposite. They completely left the ones who miss banging gears & hitting redline with VTEC in the dust. It’s sad to be honest.

@@GhalaZoy Honda Accord is for family if you want sporty Honda/Acura go buy type S and type R models.

I’m glad rid of turbo, just another thing requires maintenance.

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I hated how the 10th gen looked like a charger inside and out almost and the panel gaps looked like it'd been wrecked 4 times

Oh no no, they didn't miss the boat they made their own boat!

The old integra was just such a good classic that you cant reinvent it without getting written off as a worse attempt result.

Honda also has a proven hybrid system, and they beat Toyota to the hybrid market with their insight vs the prius

@@marklion315 dude first prius came in 97 vs 99 for the insight.

Beating Toyota in first to hybrid means nothing. Toyota sells more hybrid in a day than Honda in a months and Toyota hybrid is bulletproof.

personally i think all the 10g civics were possilbly the ugliest design in their entire lineup lol, and the current 11g is their best. but i agree about the accord, the previous gen accord was probably the best looking honda on the road. sucks so see it get this weird minimalized look

But people said they didn't like the 10th gen Civic. I like the 9th gen Civic hatch the best myself of the modern Civics, especially the FK2 Type R, and also the original 8th gen Civic "UFO" hatch (which obviously the 9th gen is an extensive facelift of, just like the 9th gen sedan is a facelift of the 8th gen sedan). But people said they didn't like the radical styling, futuristic two-tier dash, Honda Jazz torsion beam rear suspension etc and also that they wanted conservative looks & a conservative interior like a Mk7 VW Golf or Passat... Which Honda have now delivered, yet people complain about. Can't win I guess! [For clarity I do like the sharp lines of the 10th gen sedan and hatch, they come across an evolution of the 8th gen sedan and hatch -- especially the hatch which had a similar character line up the side. But all these people said they wanted conservative, reserved, "mature" styling like a VW. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ]

@@TassieLorenzo AYO I had an 8th gen it was my favorite right after the 10g

@@TassieLorenzo also idk what buyer Honda is targeting but people who like European cars will buy European, people who like American will like American, it's us Honda fanboys that grew up and finally have salaries and passion for the brand that they're letting down, powersports Honda is still ok which is why my (Honda) motorcycle costs more than both my current (Honda) cars combined lol!! They just are not offering anything compelling in cars that idiots like me will be happy with even though it'd be way easier than trying to target a demographic that won't be loyal and is more expensive to sway anyway

@@NayanPai218 I mean everyone has their tastes but I walk the walk everything I own is a Honda and I'm stupid and young enough that brand passion (mostly) overwhelms financial sense, but currently the Hyundai products are more compelling and honda-y to me than this new lineup. Hell I LOVED the 10g type R but when I went to buy it cash there was nothing even close to MSRP and this is pre COVID. Idk if Honda will succeed with trying to get older or more euro buyers to buy in but I really hope they don't honestly. The whole reason ppl pick Honda over Toyota is character, the Acura RL line some of the best cars money could buy but no one did because they were bland looking. Don't know when they'll learn the lesson that the kids that grew up watching gutted civics with turbos maul the streets want something that looks distinctly Honda. Sales don't lie, 10g civic spiked in sales from 2016-2019 and even considering "shortages" the 11g just aren't moving like that. There are almost twice as many 11gs on the lot by year and that's even considering the shortage..

Not happening

@@gibreezy cross ur fucking fingers God damnit

Im pretty sure the prev gen accord had a hybrid platform with more power, should have kept that as the base power plant and had the old 2.0t with a hybrid system

It did come out 5 years ago, the 2017 model has the same system

Yep

@@vsrap71 I was interested because they were talking about how it basically shifts like an electric car which I don't recall anyone ever saying for prior gens.

@@TaijiArban the engine is not tied to the wheels. Do you understand cars?????????? This Accord has a generator

Which other sedans will you be looking at, then?

Its pretty shameful they got rid of the 2.0 if i had to buy another car it wont be a Honda unless they bring back the 2.0 with 10 speed

Acura TLX has the same powertrain.

I'm most likely trading my Lexus in and getting the 23 Honda Accord touring hybrid. I'm like 50% sure waiting on inventory no hurry love my ES 300h Lexus.

You have no tast in styling

@@texasblaze1016You have no taste in spelling. ;p

​@@tangentfox4677 lal