unless those teams are dingo, goodtimes, golden films, bevanfield, etc..

You can still make a movie with just artwork and it works. The full length movie deal is ruined already by selfish demonic corporations who want you a slave instead of yourself. As someone who finished a movie called The Star Gem, I know. I do all the hard work and prove telling a story is possible. Recently you are getting assholes like ones who gave us Space Jam sequel which is a fest for fools instead of a story.

I can do animation on my own but I must be realistic and either try for years to get a team which will never come due to prejudices of artists out there, or just use better balanced alternative like making the story comic like and just for fun. I know it is good to work with others for the cartoon industry on something, but what can you expect when we are getting garbage like Space Jam 2 which copied a movie from Japan called BELLE and both came on same day and have similar stories even if one is about basketball.

Frankly, Bill Plympton can animate films all by himself and do it better, in my opinion.

Unless it's killer bean.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

Ditto!

Aladdin and Paige are the sole reason the TVA was created.

Im surprised that wasnt more of a running joke. But you know we're gonna see them again in another Phelous review gag.

Aladdin! I mean Gunther, do something!

I see what you did here!

Funny how maybe this movie maybe predicted Shrek and Puss and Boots crossing over, also notice how in Shrek 2 the first encounter was hostile?

It's all ogre now.

Well the Ogre in the French Puss and Boots wanted to be a swan even though he could’ve done so at any time with the candy or his shapeshifting. I think we can agree that the Ogre is a idiot

coward, the ogre is already hot

@@Thorax420 he was pretty cute. Pigs have a special place in my heart

Because he shouldn't have to

In the scene where he was singing to the princess he did take a human form for a bit (not shown here) but he was ugly as hell lol

flash gone wrong

experimental motion tweening.

Its like if the dingo ppl knew how to draw but still didnt know how to animate

Idk but I can't even 🤣🤣🤣🤣(´-﹏-`；)

They've made them into Paper Mario characters

SQUIDWARD!

Lol! I was gonna say that

It is a clone to Japan's Puss N Boots. 🐈 Lol

Squidward blew most the animation budget on sushi and canned bread.

There will be movies like this forced upon the world tomorrow! And the next day. And the next day. And the next day. And the next day....

Yeah, low key, I like a lot of the animation in here, maybe it’s the nostalgic point and click player in me, maybe I just like rough animation haha

Yeah, it reminds me of [Captain] Claw!

It looks like the game Captain Klaw.

Yeah it kind of reminds me of the old King's Quest games by Sierra

@wellthatwasweird Still less obnoxious than Cedric the owl.

Speak for yourself; after watching this, I've successfully tricked myself to thinking I was under the influence of opioids- _even though I am aware that I'm stone sober-_ on the grounds that *_clearly_* none of this can be real!

child?

@@steamboatwill3.367 the character is meant be like a teen or something

It's like a Bretonnian paesant trying to impress a princess by saying he owns the Chaos Wastes.

I remember when the people who made Madagascar made a really big deal on the whole squash and stretch thing in cg animation, but we've gone a LONG way since that movie came out. It's pretty amazing.

Whoa

William "The Shat" Shatner

Well... so?

@@smileyenvelope9244 Well, so?

Hmm, I dunno... I think it can also be done with wizards that can turn into the lion king MAH GOD.

Oh God I had forgotten about that 3-way review. Damn you!

Just the ogre?

@@jackmcslay I'm pretty sure he's the only one in this movie that looks and sounds like CD-I Ganon.

"You dare bring the Marquis of Carabas to my lair!? You must die!"

Ah it burns. I'll get you Gunther. Even if it's the last thing I do

Sounds like the same voice actor.

And summarily be given a Darwin Award for doing something so spectacularly stupid.

The Marquise of Carabas?

That might even have been enough booze for Andre the Giant

Even then, Disney did export a lot of the animation. So he probably was.

It was made in 1999, so I imagined Flash being this new shiny piece of software that could let a single person animate in a short time and the result is this movie.

well "Sealed with a kiss" was much better animated.

Why did he have to waste a point on Transformation magic, when it should've went to the Social Lifespan perk?

All the songs have that vibe XD

He was personally in our animation class talking about it. And with how he described it it made it sound like it was a passion project that also made his life hell.

With the animation being better, sealed with a kiss puts Phil's weaknesses as a storyteller, writer, songwriter, voice director, etc on display. Everything I've seen at these movies so far have been some of the most uninspired stuff (Almost as if someone else did those things his entire career).

Fermin Tenava And the emotional climax is her singing "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star." :D. This is one time where I think he needed a meddling executive to come in and say "no."

@Mullerornis yeah he needs help in the writing department 😅

@@brentparker7359 You forgot the part where, when our lovers "die," the scene panned out from their corpses and a sad, instrumental reprise of "twinkle twinkle little star" played. I was convinced Phil put it in as a joke for so long.

I just saw that 😄

Well in the bonus vid, Phil did specify he used Macromedia Flash which is a REALLY old version of the program as opposed to Adobe Flash.

Didn't he use an amiga to make these movies?

Honestly this could be useful but using it sparingly.

@@_JabberHawk there's a limited potential for this technique. Nibbelink here went further beyond that limit.

@@ARMIV4 Yeah it looks very weird after the fact.

Orbital wobble is one thing but this...

Movie is a copy to Japan's Puss N Boots by company that made DRAGON BALL anime.

I'd say one place they could improve with a few minutes' thought is changing how Puss interacts with the farmers. They're clearly living in a hellhole under the Ogre's control, so have him roll up to the fields, ask who owns this land, and then tell them that they're mistaken, it belongs to the Marquis of Carabas. A Marquis who happens to be very generous to his loyal subjects, and if they were to praise him to any carriages that happened to go by, they'd be richly rewarded. Give them the carrot instead of the stick, and hint at how much better their lives will be under the Marquis. He's obviously still bluffing, but at least it shows he has good intentions for the people who are just trying to live their lives.

@Mullerornis Well adding that Gunther already met the princess beforehand is a decent idea for a change, makes it where the hero already likes the princess and doesn't just see her as shiny prize (that's why they did a similar change in Aladdin). The problem as Phelous pointed out, was that it made the whole con make less sense. Maybe they could've fixed it to where the Princess knew the whole time and wanted to marry Gunther, but the King was against the idea of her marrying a commoner. Thus it's only the King who Gunther and Puss are tricking and it would've been more ok because he's just being a classist prick.

I absolutely agree. The similarities to Disney’s Aladdin are something I noticed to. When you get down to it, Aladdin was a conman and a fraud, but that gets negated by the fact that the movie goes to great lengths to show that he is still a good person at heart. The movie opens with him spending half a day trying not get sliced into ribbons by the royal guards over stealing some bread and then still gives it to some starving orphans, and at the end he willingly frees his friend Genie, sacrificing his third wish that could have allowed him to marry the princess. Classic self-sacrifice. We see none of that with Gunter here, who only saves the princess two times because he has the hots for her and we never see him show an altruistic side to any person he doesn’t want to bone and unlike many portrayals of Puss’s owner, who is usually depicted as a nice and sensible guy that often feels conflicted if not guilty about the scam, here he happily goes along with it and overall comes across as a selfish, hedonistic prick who just wants to bang the princess and live a comfy life (he’s even a dick to Puss). He’s less of a sympathetic underdog who deserves a better lot in life and more like that jobless deadbeat who sleeps on your couch.

It probably would have been improved vastly by making the reason for the cats lies be he is caught sneaking into the palace to see the cat he is in love with and they think he is the Ogre. Have Gunther be pulled into the lies because some guards had seen him talking with the cat and he claims he is the Marque in peasant clothes as the Ogre tends to go after noble looking people. Also have the princess see through it but go along with the lies as him and the cat did save her life and her father is so maddened by fear that he would still end up executing them if she just told him who they were. Also instead of him threatening the people on the farmland he instead bribes them.

To be fair, many film adaptations of Puss in Boots have the ogre wanting to marry the princess. Apart from Phil Nibbelink and Toei's versions, that happens in a 1969 Mexican live action adaptation, an ABC special starring a cat named Captain O. G. Readmore and a Russian cartoon on which Puss is dubbed in English by Rob Paulsen.

And Bevanfield! Don't forget Bevanfield!

I bet he was hoping that the flash animation's new functionalities would let him manage this without the backbreaking amount of work it'd take to make all the...keyframes? I think that's what they're called...

The constant use of warping really threw me off. I would have though that as an animator even with that as a "cool new tool to use" you'd not try to apply it to solid characters... Like when Puss in Boots was falling, I kind of expected his cape to warp, but using it on his whole body is misguided to me and I'm not even an animator.

It was probably an issue of time and budget(i.e. how long could he afford to work on it), plus Flash being an at the time new method of animation. It says a lot that when he got years of experience using it under his belt+enough time to work on a movie for years, the animation turned out way better.

It was probably due to laziness and only caring about money.

That probably happens when you want to make it all on your own. Even trained animators need someone to draw the in-betweens. Look at Vivienne Medrano's work for example 🤔

Yes very good, over 4 years is almost 5 years... Nothing gets passed you

@@beepbeeplettuce5890 it was a reference to his Aladdin and the adventure of all time review

Eh!😜

And already you'd have the best version of the story . Sort of a reverse Aladdin

Yeah that’s the first thing I thought when I heard the bibliography of this guy. Never would have thunk to hear that movie again

it's tail time!

I’m getting Commodore/Amiga vibes looking at it

Jeb Jab is gonna sh*t his pants when he realizes they made a Gex _movie_

Romeo and Juliet the Titanic Animation. Lol. Those animated Titanic movies are nothing to Lupin III Dragon of Doom and the cat anime movie with galactic railroad which did not offend deaths of the people from sinking.

I always assumed the ogre kidnapped them in revenge for what happened at their mill.

Medieval millers tended to be quite wealthy by peasant standards.

Probable!y not that complex. They probably got captured or something.

They tried to role play Kingdom Come Deliverence as Millers. Unfortunately they had 2 in inteligence and zero in luck...

It looks more like Captain Claw than a CDI game.

Reminds me of The Cunning Vixen cartoon, which had had nice animation, but had the crappy filtered realistic photo backgrounds like this film does.

I wish

Nah he's doing a shot for shot remake

I did the drawing of myself, in flash no less!

@@phelous whoa!

That sucks, and sucks for your teacher also. I'm guessing your teacher had seen it beforehand.

@@_JabberHawk Y'know, I'd honestly never considered that he'd have had to watch it himself to know he could punish disobedient teenagers with it. That poor man XD

The very definition of a cool and unusual punishment.

All of these characters look the same as other characters.

Well said

Oh! Yeah I can see it

IIRC Phil actually did work on The Black Cauldron

@@twilitsunset7098 oh….😶

And that was the good one

@@carlycrays2831 I can’t believe I have to compliment one of the worst adaptations of R&J ever but For all its failures, it at least kept the entire cast to animate which Phil can animate the “best”

Yep that’s familiar 😅 and I didn’t watch the movie, I’ve seen REVIEWS of it

Well, "Judge" is a nickname - Reinhold's full name is Edward Ernest Reinhold, Jr. According to Wikipedia, his family nicknamed him Judge because he looked "stern and judge-like" as a baby.

Or perhaps he must be constantly judged.

@@bendavenport4136 wow😅

*first name

@@bendavenport4136 Ah thanks, I always just heard people call him that, never knew this was not a name.

Recently, he also co-directed that terrible Netflix Marmaduke movie. So this guy did eventually go back to working with a team, and is still working in animation. I doubt he had any influence over the terrible character designs in that movie though.

The Marquis de Carabas?

Yeah that pretty much sum it up (´-﹏-`；

He was also in one of the Land Before Time sequels.

He was also in The Island of Dr Moreau, Logan’s Run, and so much more! He’s amazing.

Or a seizure

Yeah, I get the feeling this guy had just discovered Flash and dived in without learning how to use it well.

Agreed, I've also had the other experience where people are surprised by what I use because of preconceptions. I'm by no means an expert (always learning), but I used to get a lot of comments from people saying they were surprised that my animations were done in Flash, because they assumed Flash was solely used to make things on the cheap. Artists can and will make any software work to their needs and style to produce something great , while others will have industry level tools and still find ways to cut corners and make it look dodgy. It really comes down to what works best for you. It's the same with voice acting. You could have a "cheap" microphone and still make it sound good if you know what you're doing, but even state of the art equipment can have bad audio recordings if they aren't set up right.

Which is rather sad.

And it's some how also better than that live action, stage musical that the Showtime channel used to show in the 80's all the time. That version of Puss n Boots was really out its element, and it had jazz and Ragtime music. I think it's supposed to take place in either the 1920s or, 30's or 40's. And I believe it also takes place in New Orleans. But either ways, it's wholly out of it's element.

@@steamphoenix8817 Wait... there was a stage musical!?

@@TommyDeonauthsArchives yes . It was aired on Showtime in the 80's but not sure what the exact year it came out. And if it was a big flop like that Superman musical was, it's probably been buried and forgotten. It hasn't been seen since, though I hope Diva from Musical Hell will review it. If it's not lost media.

That one had a character arc. Puss and Gunther are just assholes

Honestly the whole thing was very funny in an ironic self aware way

The King is a fearless based Dad.

Yikes...

Johnny Test has more fluid animation.

​@@bearerofbadnews1375 I hear it had more fluid animation in the first season!

@@BagOfMagicFood That was because it was in regular 2D animation...

I actually find this warping and clashing backgrounds more visually offensive than Dingo's stiff animation and crayon backgrounds. But that might be because I've developed a sort of stockholm syndrome for Dingo Pictures.

The way the characters have no outline makes think that Eddy from Ed edd and eddy went here at some point and took everyone’s outlines. Though I have no idea why everyone in this movie are not melting into puddles.

To me its like some weird combination of aladdin adventure of all time and dingo.

@@fattiger6957 Dingo at least has better colors.

I remember watching it in school.😂

@@psychedelicpayroll5412 oh my god What class? Did the teacher really just want a nap??

Every knight started out as a punto squire.

There will never be more perfect timing!

Puss! In Boot! He flies like a moron!

I never seen bad animation errors since Alibaba

What happened?

@@smb-c3po he used to work for Disney until going to Warner Bros.

Becausr the person making it doesn't have experience with it and didn't have access to the KZfaq tutorials and online classes we take for granted

@@carlycrays2831 I'd say you're right, but all he had to do is _look_ at the thing and think, "No, this doesn't look right at _all_ ." I understand he didn't have the resources we do, but you could say the same about a lot of people, who made better looking stuff at the time.

@@superemoboi2050 That's just your personal opinion

This might as well be a CD-I game!

@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess Yeah, my opinion of the way it looks is subjective, but that doesn't really invalidate what I said. Better resources don't necessarily make a product better. People have made masterpieces out of basically nothing, both before and after this movie was made.