There is no such thing as Overkill. There is only "Open Fire!" and "Reload!"

"57 seconds ago" me, Sweet! You're right about the AP. Shells have armor=1, so AP of 2 deals 100% damage. anything higher is not helpful.

On the Hornet's Nest, there are 11 clusters of 4-missile gantries on each corner of each arm, making it 44 missiles per corner. Each arm contains four corners, bringing the total per arm up to 176. Given that this craft has four arms, the grand total for this little nest of chemically propelled death is *704* missiles or enough to cover Erwick in volcanic glass.

It finally happened! One of my designs single handedly killed a Tyr! (Actually more like a draw but schhhh). My airship currently costs 600k vs the Tyrs like 900k

A few things to point out in addition to the fine content here. 1) The Laser generators featured here are relatively small in footprint which means they are also low-scale in terms of power, storage and pump speed. As such, larger systems tend to scale better in terms of sustainability of fire, though this is costly in terms of engine power. Depending on your desired effect, continuous non-Q switch LAMS can be extremely effective against shells and missiles if the build is dedicated toward pumps refilling the energy "as fast as it is drained", while pulsed LAMS with high storage and setting the output regulator to the approximate damage required to 1 shot incoming bogeys can engage slower "volley" fire more energy efficiently. 2) When considering LAMS systems, it is often best to configure 2 engagement ranges, one for engaging primary threats before they get close or for very fast shells, and a much closer one designed to provide additional fire against swarm-type attacks and things that just get way too close for comfort. In general, despite damage % dropoffs, it is still viable and a bit more efficient to have LAMS nodes set to ~500m and another set of nodes set to ~250m. If you get fancy you can have something like pulsed LAMS set to the longer range so they can 1-tap CRAM cannon shells and larger missiles at range or over multiple shots as they approach, with a separate set of continuous non-Q LAMS set to closer range to get those swarmers and shells that would otherwise be close calls before they get close enough to splash with high explosive radius. For less fancy, more footprint conscious designs, just use the same system (Q or non Q) and set the ranges so that about half the nodes engage further and half are for close-dangers. 3) For some missile systems, as borderwise mentions, it is far more efficient to build smaller more specialized defenses. Radar guided and Heat Seeking properties can easily be confused by decoys that are specifically tailored to the type of tracking involved. A lot less energy, and thus fuel and materials, have to be dedicated to these defenses.

I normally just rip out the Bulwark's LAM system and use that in my builds. This video has helped me immensely.

I was searching a LAMS tutorial yesterday and i was lost without finding one done by you!

3:15 When I look at one of my missiles (a medium sized 5m torpedo) it has "Health: 2722.5 (20 armor)." Also when I look at one of my AP cartridge makers, it says "Shell health (20 armor): 172." So I guess armor has been introduced for projectiles in the last couple years? I guess "20 AP" is maybe good enough for most munition interdiction systems then?

35:35 - the percentage of damage from lams at 250m is about 77.65% according to the following formula : (100/2.75)^(x/1000) x is the distance I found the formula through experimental measures so values might differ of few tenth of percent.

Something you didn't touch on. Using the Output regulator to regulate per shot damage to a lower value than the maximum possibble. Once your storage capacity gets high enough and/or your LAMS node count gets high enough it's generally a good idea to use that capability or you'll have a LAMS system dealing several times the damage needed to kill anything aimed at it which wastes colossal amounts of energy. The Hornets nest is pretty much one of the very few craft able to keep up a sufficiently continuous barrage to require extreme pumping, so normally figuring out how to eek out a lot of storage to the best possibble degree is key to efficiency.

Yep, I built an 'aggressively over-designed' missile ship that fires a pair of essentially solid 'thump' heavy missiles for any LAMS to chew on while medium sized swarm is getting into range. So far havent seen a campaign craft that can kill both without using CIWS or interceptors.

borderwise: makes tutorial math: i'm about to end this man's whole career

Time Stamps: 0:00 - LAMS Discussions 37:23 - LAMS Demonstrations 47:51 - Anti-Hornets Nest Nonsense 50:57 - No more LAMS

I think the kinetic shells being invincible to LAMS is intentional. With explosive warheads, the laser can heat them until they cook off, breaking the shell into harmless shrapnel, but a solid lump of metal, even if you have the energy to melt it, will keep coming at you.

Borderwise, it sounds to me as if you are saying LAM system(laser anti munition system), not LAMS system (Laser anti muntion system system) so no worries there. Further more, if anyone were to bug someone for such a thing it is my belief those kinds of people are far to hung up on the things in life that are not worth it, and they should move to a country with real problems like north korea

One thing I've noticed that annoyed me, is that a lot of higher tiered faction craft use radar missiles with signal processors that enable them to ignore radar decoys and jamming. Though not high tier, the Rhea is a good example. Good vid. Very helpful.

Haven't finished the episode, but timestamp 57:57 is probably a typo. "Click this button to end the video", why?

LAMS Defensive Laser System: Laser Anti Munitions System Defensive Laser System just call it a LAMSDLS system

Thsnks BW this is so helpful!! And i enjoy your blathering!! XD

One of the many reasons watching these Videos: 20:15 (btw. again a great Video and it's length is great ^^)

I'm waiting for a mod that changes the lams noises to baas.

More squeaky chair!!! ☺️☺️☺️☺️

Baaaa!

176 small missle pods per hornet's nest so thats 704 missiles per volley

Are you sure it isnt intentional for unloaded crams to be immune to LAMS? If they could be destroyed by LAMS then you have a laser completely melting a giant solid metal shell. If they are loaded with ammunition then the laser would detonate the explosives in the (even explosives to eject pellets) which is why you see the shell detonate when it is hit

my LAMS wont shoot down cram shells, help me please (Edit) Don't worry, i worked it out!)

The issue with APS isn't the accuracy of the LAMS so much as the LAMS needs a moment after detection to take the shot. The fire rate seems to improve how rapidly this happens. O 0Q (40 shots per seconds), does a much better job at actually getting shots off than a 4Q, (8 shots per second). And APS don't have the health to survive if a shot goes off.

I spent all afternoon trying things to counter large missiles on my sattelight and.... only swarms of medium antimissiles worked. Will take this info and try again tomorrow. Really want a laser system avoid wasting materials on ammo.

Thanks a lot for this one.

Can't you decrease the range of the LAM and add destabilisers to the laser to make it more bursty? Lower range means more damage with the same amkunt of laser energy.

Massive health on crams? 4m Rail-Only APS shells come in at 16k health. Where 2000mm cram shells sit. Difference is one can yeet these at someting at 40 rpm and 1000m/s. Though that needs ~25k power/second. I love railgun cheese.

October 2021 wants to know if the thing about AP and LAMS is still true.

What would you think is better, a lams node covered in LAMS or a lams node with one LAMS?

*1 year ago* Me: dang ith I cannot do it as well But question what exactly determines it as a anti munition vs an attack laser?

today on things I needed in my life xD, I've done the campaign without ever using any lams, just because I never found motivation to learn about them and even though my ships still do quite well, sometimes I wished I had a decent to good lam system on my ships to avoid being chipped. -------> A question though for anyone that reads this: Do laser targeters on crams get fooled alot or something since an update or do they like to pre detonate cram shots 5 miles before the target when fighting certain enemies? Because as of lately my crams predetonate really early for no reason whatsoever, no lams hitting them or debris in the way. One thing I noticed was that they tend to predetonate a bit more when fighting the thunderclap from the gray talons, but it's quite an incosistent thing, because sometimes 4 full volleys of cram predetonate and sometimes nothing at all. Note: ships had full hp, so nothing on my ships was destroyed yet.

In about the past week ive found like 5 different channels for FTD and UAD

Henlo BorderWise, you have any kind of up to date Tutorial about Fuel Engines?, i always just used the prefab because from all the systems in ftd is the most uninteresting one to build imo, even Steam engines are more fun to build, also idk how their advantages compares to other engine types so yeah, i would like to know more about them or if you know of someone who have a good tutorial, it would be much appreciated m8!

BAAAAAAAA

The hornets nest has about 700 missiles

Heheheh LAMS 🤭🥰😪

yes!

what i am not sure how LAMS work, do you use a weapon controller, or an anti-missile cannon controller, or an ABS for them to operate? Because I tried with abs and AMCC and didnt read onto the laser core.

Why do I happy birthday in the back ground music?

how did he get the damage on them so high? or have they been nerfed to the floor now?

THANK YOU 😊 YOU ARE GOD!!!

is the music in this video like a jazzy "Happy Birthday" Song?

can passive sonar detect torpedo props, because then beam rider torps would be counterable with active defenses

Is it possible to hook up a simple weapon (new ones) to a Cwis Auto Controller?

The answer was.... 4 times as much.

You failed to describe how to make the lams on each side of your ship/fortress. I mention this because My redesign of the starter fortress has 199k engine power Which honestly I could increase by 25% and include your final lams system easy. I got drunk and went alittle overboard on the size.....

Your videos are too long. A 20 minute video on LAMS would be long for most people, 50 is way too much.