OK. So for fun picking purposes I can ignore the cam bit for now anyway, but I need to pick pins 2,4 and 6 to get me out of the first row of trap pins? And if I manage that, I need something to stop the next 3 pop into the lock as it turns around?? Interesting lock. Thanks for posting this and great job on it👍

Maybe I should have called it string theory 😂

So much to learn all the time. I’m 13-14 years in and still something new every day pretty much.

@@GxAxV what would you advise if I come across the above in a domestic environment? My understanding is if i encountered that lock first i would try to pick but if that fails use a pick gun, and then if that doesn't work use a plug puller. But looking at the above the only way seems to be picking is that right?

@@mitchellw7118 most well established locksmiths never use plug pullers, we all buy them but never actually use them. With all these cylinders that can’t be pulled including the ATK and screws potentially breaking in the core and making life 10 times harder. Simply drilling the lock the normal way is safer and faster. With this lock and almost all others is pick gun 1st if it won’t go then hand picks then drill.

@@GxAxV that's perfect thank you. I'm going to set up a mock frame and door in my garage and started fitting random locks to experiment with. It is so wierd as since I discovered it as a hobby nobody else sees what I do and thinks I'm crazy haha

@@mitchellw7118 lol that’s the best way to do it mate, theory and videos are great to learn but best to get something in front of you and actually do it. If you enjoy it while you learn then you know it’s right for you.

I can’t really tell you without assessing your door and property. If you have a big glass panel door then why spend lots on locks. Same goes for if your back door is pants. Most locksmiths will do a free quote for you and asses the property. Get someone over and by all means you can ask my opinion on what they recommend.

Well that is a good question man i would try that if i had this avocet atk :)

Watch him answer his own question on his own vid a year later😁👍

Yes they will still come into play but grinder again sorts them

No unfortunately not. That’s a question as old as trap pins themselves tho that everyone asks 😁 simply not enough time to pick up speed and a very high chance of damaging the lock.

@@GxAxV makes sense. Brent a few tap pin's in my time.

No criminals ever pick locks to gain entry. Look into anti snap and drill protection.

No it is quite possible to use a pick gun on them successfully and would definitely be what I would try 1st 👍🏻

The Don Of Pies nice name 😂 the bible is what the bottom part of the lock is called that houses the driver pins. The string method is a way to get past trap pins in other types of locks using string.

GxAxV thanks man, love the fact you reply to your fans! Remember me when you’re bigger than the lock pick lawyer please!

The Don Of Pies 😂 that won’t be a thing but I will 😁👍🏻

I wouldn’t lol

Plug4uk it is just a method to get past the trap pins but like you say it’s kind of a bypass so I won’t share. Maybe you can look it up tho.

@@GxAxV : Understood and no worries my friend, better to be safe than sorry especially on here with these sorts of things because we never know who's watching ;-)

It’s a little bit different but not much really I would say more like 20% harder tops depending on the position of the lock. I pick a lot more locks in doors every day than I do in the vice.