Babymaxxing | with Malcolm Collins

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Benjamin A Boyce

Benjamin A Boyce

2 ай бұрын

Malcolm Collins of Based Camp (‪@SimoneandMalcolm‬) joins me to speak about triggering elitist sensitivities, how liberal tolerance lead to progressive decadence, and why he doesn't think love is the end-all-be-all of human virtues.
Article of note: archive.today/HPy0b
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@SimoneandMalcolm
@SimoneandMalcolm 2 ай бұрын
Ok, this is me and with this intro edit I want to watch this! Also, might be my go to "thesis" interview to sent people to going forward. You did a great job.
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 2 ай бұрын
All Benjamin's vids are edited by a team of cats. (Low-paid cat interns).
@NinjaKittyBonks
@NinjaKittyBonks 2 ай бұрын
@@Jules-Is-a-Guy ... more like No-paid cats whom are locked in the basement and live on table scraps slid under the crack in the door where that cat can see Ms. Leslie and Mr. Benjamin mocking that kitty with laser lights and toys that are just out of reach, so kitteh is left to cry in the shadows and cuddle up near the water heater for the tiniest bit of warmth all the while can also see from that gap under the basement door multiple other kitty's who get laptimez, playtimez, belly rubz, scritches, head pats, lay in the window, go outside, play with chickens, climb trees and investigate stuff😾 . [The kitty scurries off to secret underground basement bunker to exact plan of revenge 😼]
@BenjaminABoyce
@BenjaminABoyce 2 ай бұрын
Was a real pleasure to speak with you Malcolm! Look forward to working more with you in the future!
@NativeNewMexican
@NativeNewMexican 2 ай бұрын
I'm so glad I caught this video. I was expecting an antinatalist and Ben to get into a disagreement, but pleasantly surprised at your perspective.
@anaromello
@anaromello 2 ай бұрын
This was a very interesting interview. A lot of seemingly bizarre cultural developments now make sense. It's refreshing to see rational, reality based explanations rather than religious/conspiratorial which are currently most of the pushback against nonsensical, dangerous beliefs and cult like demands for ideological submission from the supposedly progressive left.
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 2 ай бұрын
"You could prevent these negative memetic bubbles from forming, so long as society doesn't normalize any area that you're not allowed to criticize". Dude, EXACTLY PERFECT. (It's the socionormative retention of the free speech ethos that allows EVERYTHING ELSE to function).
@DorianPaige00
@DorianPaige00 2 ай бұрын
I guess society then should not normalize religion because you can't criticize that in some places without violence. If one criticizes Christianity, you're essentially told to go to hell but the person removes themselves by stating that's God talking and have nothing to do with it and are just following orders.
@AnselLindner
@AnselLindner Ай бұрын
Free speech is there for a reason.
@lanvywynn
@lanvywynn 2 ай бұрын
New drinking game: Every time Malcolm says “memetic’…
@fancyhitchpin8675
@fancyhitchpin8675 2 ай бұрын
His use of mimetic is memetic.
@alexryan43244
@alexryan43244 Ай бұрын
​@@fancyhitchpin8675and also fantastic
@hengineer
@hengineer 2 ай бұрын
I've recently watched some of their videos, so interesting to see you two come together like this.
@TheRedfire555
@TheRedfire555 Ай бұрын
One of the most interesting interviews I've ever watched!
@anaromello
@anaromello 2 ай бұрын
Great interview.
@michaelweber5702
@michaelweber5702 2 ай бұрын
Benjamin , this fellow is quite interesting and he is fun to listen to . Please ask him to come on your show , again ...
@smyrnagal8430
@smyrnagal8430 2 ай бұрын
I will have to listen to this multiple times to grasp all the very interesting points Malcolm made. I really enjoyed this - please have him back and maybe try to focus on one subject to help idiots like me keep up!
@deaththekid3998
@deaththekid3998 23 күн бұрын
If you’re interested you can go watch some of his videos in his own channel. He frequently addresses these points so you’ll understand better
@randygault4564
@randygault4564 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this interesting thinker.
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 2 ай бұрын
Yes, oxytocin causes both in-group bonding, and out-group hostility.
@jamesmcmann8536
@jamesmcmann8536 2 ай бұрын
Malcolm was in top form here, thanks. Such a breath of fresh air. Can't wait to see how their kids turn out! Can you imagine it as a reality TV show?
@RedTitan5
@RedTitan5 Ай бұрын
And Malcolm slapping a two year old... Very great??
@timkunkel5431
@timkunkel5431 2 ай бұрын
Fan of both you gentlemen. Honest request: please ask Malcolm why he's never been in the same room with his wife. I have lingering doubts.
@risaac9663
@risaac9663 Ай бұрын
You may be joking, so ignore if the case, but their earlier podcasts are in the same room. IIRC they didn't like the consistent head-turning to listen to each other.
@simshengvue5799
@simshengvue5799 24 күн бұрын
They already explained it. Simone is autistic and as a hard time communicating when they are in the same room. She works a lot better when they are in separate rooms that she can just focus on communicating and not the other person there
@paf2587
@paf2587 2 ай бұрын
Love this!
@liabobia
@liabobia 2 ай бұрын
Yay one of my newest favs is on one of the first KZfaq channels I ever followed!
@Durthii
@Durthii 2 ай бұрын
yes, i did love it, and i want more of it and i shared it with as many people as i could.
@NinjaKittyBonks
@NinjaKittyBonks 2 ай бұрын
Malcolm is totally animated in just this little clip! This is gonna be GREAT! PS> 11th place! [Homer Simpson whoo hooo x's 11 😸
@Knuck_Knucks
@Knuck_Knucks 2 ай бұрын
Last month my feed was pretty algorithm 'ed towards his content. I ignored it. May have to explore more...🐿
@jennytr5056
@jennytr5056 Ай бұрын
Malcolm Collins has zero understanding of the Christian definition of love, which has nothing to do with emotion... but otherwise, great interview and well worth watching!
@sketchvibes4902
@sketchvibes4902 2 ай бұрын
Wow this guy is wild. Super interesting 👍🏻
@annarboriter
@annarboriter 2 ай бұрын
"urban monoculture" is simply the latest workaround for avoiding naming and criticizing feminism
@alephthetheropod6210
@alephthetheropod6210 2 ай бұрын
Very interesting! I like his train of thought, very non dogmatic.
@billjohnson1094
@billjohnson1094 2 ай бұрын
Well, that was fun!
@BenjaminABoyce
@BenjaminABoyce 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for tuning in, Bill!
@sosaysthecaptain5580
@sosaysthecaptain5580 2 ай бұрын
I agree with a lot more of this than I expected I would, but I think it ought to be understood as a layer on top of Catholicism. "You can go to a Christian and deconvert him pretty easily by saying, 'well, do you really think this nice Jew would go to hell?'" Bingo. Exactly how they (my liberal church) got me when I was sixteen. I wish I'd known then what I know now.
@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756
@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756 Ай бұрын
Yeah, it's a side affect of our multicultural society and ethos. Most of history would be fine looking at an out group and saying "yes, that's why they should convert"
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 2 ай бұрын
"If you start dedicating your life to the cake, that's gonna lead to very negative outcomes". The number one thing Malcom should be doing professionally, is printing bumper stickers.
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 2 ай бұрын
Saying taboos have minimal efficacy, is almost like saying social norms don't matter as far as influencing behavior, and helping determine which are successful groups. The Collins's private research institute doesn't always plug-in the correct variables to their random number generator 😂
@jaientenduunevoix726
@jaientenduunevoix726 2 ай бұрын
Spitting facts 📠
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 2 ай бұрын
Premiere in 24 hrs? That's usually enough time for yet another TBOR to 'drop'.
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 2 ай бұрын
Hah yeahhhh, also Simone. (I disagree with the majority of ideas that they spitball every week that I happen to hear, but the main argument for using embryo selection for healthy traits mainly intelligence, and obviously also reproducing earlier/more often, is definitely good. My favorite goofy based tech-y clever nerds online, bar none).
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 2 ай бұрын
Malcolm "the 3rd VlogBrother" Collins.
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 2 ай бұрын
Hilariously good description of Harvard.
@brianbowers7192
@brianbowers7192 2 ай бұрын
I found myself consuming a fair bit of Malcolm's KZfaq content over the last month and came away feeling fairly alienated from their worldview. There are a few points of theirs that have stuck with me “urban monoculture as deathcult” seemingly mirroring my own observation of living near a midsized fast growing college town/capital city. But apart from that I feel a certain hubris or overconfidence comes through in Malcolm’s prescriptions that gives me pause. Not to the degree that I feel any need whatsoever to actively oppose them … just some of them seem a bit fantastic and speculative to a degree that makes me think that if stabilizing birth rates is the sine qua non of any civilization then I’d stay clear of any group involved with such techniques. Specifically because it would seem to introduce innumerable points of failure into the propagation of the species, is poorly understood on a generational timescale, and may necessitate a level of technological sophistication that cannot be taken for granted, or may even necessitate the subjugation of other populations to maintain, which to my mind is inherently destabilizing and risky for those attempting it. The obvious counter to this may be that without such interventions population collapse will be inevitable but that seems to only be the case for groups that are not religiously observant who are not suffering from it and these groups don't appear to require or desire fertility tech interventions. Any critiques or misgivings aside, it's probably good that Malcolm is such a dogged proponent of his cause given the general ignorance of the topic.
@sarahhale-pearson533
@sarahhale-pearson533 2 ай бұрын
High functioning autistic people often come up with some very ‘sciency’ sounding theories to which they obsess on fitting everything they see ( see Ed Dutton). Clever people can also be very silly…
@LoneWulf278
@LoneWulf278 2 ай бұрын
@@sarahhale-pearson533 Very true.
@amurdo4539
@amurdo4539 2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't take Malcolm too seriously. He clearly sees himself as a kind of renaissance man, a guru, on every topic he discusses. The studies he uses to support his positions are almost always garbage social science studies.
@LoneWulf278
@LoneWulf278 2 ай бұрын
@@amurdo4539 What subjects do you disagree with him on?
@amurdo4539
@amurdo4539 2 ай бұрын
@@LoneWulf278 In virtually every video he appears in, including this one, he puts forth very confident, definitive assertions about a myriad of topics. Just a cursory examination of the evidence he bases these assertions on often shows that they are tenuous at best. His books are the same way. If you are comfortable evaluating evidence, just look it up yourself. Most of the studies he cites are observational, epidemiological, or based on surveys and are cherry-picked. These types of studies are notoriously irreproducible and considered poor quality of evidence. Yet, he will not always admit this in his videos because, in my view, that would undermine the definitive claims he is making. He has also created a number of interpretative frameworks based largely on his opinion, but because he is very confident, sounds intelligent, and speaks fast, it is easy to believe what he says. That doesn't mean his is always wrong, but you should be highly skeptical.
@dakota-sessions
@dakota-sessions 2 ай бұрын
No Simone? Darn.
@BenjaminABoyce
@BenjaminABoyce 2 ай бұрын
Hopefully soon!
@timkunkel5431
@timkunkel5431 2 ай бұрын
I guess they're like Bruce Wayne & Batman.
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 2 ай бұрын
Y'alls need to look at Zeihan's quadrants, for the part abt our current political realignment.
@NeraBuffy
@NeraBuffy 2 ай бұрын
You need to invite Robert B. Spencer
@N0die
@N0die 2 ай бұрын
I’m coming to terms with my affinity for nihilism, which causes me to more deeply realise Nietzsche’s concerns about nihilism. Unfortunately for the “good guys”, they’re only so good, but at least they’re against the bad guys; i e: Wokoharam™ but no one’s perfect Oh & a “Monogenēs” without the weight of Western religious milieu seems very unlikely
@richarddecou9683
@richarddecou9683 2 ай бұрын
Other channels are making hit pieces on malcolm and his wife already, watching them blowup in realtime is crazy.
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 2 ай бұрын
[Apropos of nothing, I sometimes re-post my longer essay-comments from Stephen Hicks's channel here, because they seem to deal in fairly similar subject areas] Although I became fairly interested in philosophy for a period of time, especially philosophy of mind, a decade ago in my early 20's, and I largely consider myself a philosophical and political Liberal in the Classical sense like Professor Hicks, I can't get past the observation that interdisciplinary fields in the sciences have afforded us fairly robust explanations in relation to many of the age-old questions, within the last few decades. Therefore, it might be more accurate to delineate myself as a political (Classical) Liberal, with differing philosophical commitments. However, I'm not sure: aren't Lockian/Millian Liberals committed to scientific empiricism? While biologists are still learning new things about phenotype, behavioral geneticists have nearly arrived at what resembles a Nietzschean picture. Although, important caveats must be included: as Hicks argues, Nietzsche could well have been considered overly cynical, in retrospect. It's increasingly difficult today to argue, from a scientific perspective, that certain genes aren't winning out over others, governed by the same natural selection processes as everything else. However, (this could almost be considered an updated, 'meta' perspective,) what if the more adaptive genes in humans, turned out to be those that involve some predisposition toward agreeableness, cooperation, healthy self-consideration, and a kind of accompanying ostensible 'weakness' as seen through a Nietzschean lens? Indeed, it's hard to argue against the adaptive utility of a group of bundled traits that includes agreeableness and conscientiousness, Nietzsche's "slaves" can now be better understood as more adaptive in certain specific ways than the "masters". Neuroscientists study the continuity of clearly perceived "selves," and clearly continual, cohesion of thought processes (cognition) amidst various stimuli, and find both to be essentially absent. It's clear enough as to why, the subcategory of naturalism in the process of being established by interdisciplinary cognitive scientist John Vervaeke, draws significantly from Heideggerian philosophy. With these facts established, nevertheless, the science of mind is far from complete. Researchers from what I gather, tend often in this subject area, to simply swap-out a more traditional definition of "agency" for the one used in control systems, which essentially denotes a goal-directed, self-monitoring entity that remains deterministic. (Like a temperature thermostat, though the obvious difference compared to humans for biophysicists generally, would be the level of complexity of the entity). But once again, in reference to the incomplete science of mind: what allows us to fully explain the mind as a kind of 'projection machine?' Meaning, why do we 'tell ourselves a story' continuously, about having agency, and about being discrete individuals? Researchers can subconsciously prompt subjects, with red-colored images for example, and then when asked to randomly choose a color will pick as expected, yet when asked why will tend to fabricate an explanation. Evolutionarily, why is it apparently adaptive for us to be evolved to tell ourselves these stories? The answer seems to have to do with mitigating the neuroticism that comes with constant uncertainty in response to environmental stimuli, which results in a physiologically unhealthy state for the human organism. The complete answer is not yet fully understood. This is where philosophies like those of Rand, and Liberalism enter the picture. Because it is clearly adaptive for humans to understand our world, and interactions in a certain way, with a degree of continuity wherein we perceive ourselves as individuals, and have a measure of environmental/volitional control, a curious philosophical contrast can be discerned: It is Rand's philosophy that tracks more closely with what we can now understand about the adaptive HEURISTIC aspects of human perception in interaction with the world and society, and Nietzsche's philosophy that tracks more closely from an updated REALISTIC scientific perspective. While this rendering might seem ultimately Nietzschean, consider these examples: When a police officer is in a shootout, or person is in a car accident, they report the phenomenon of time slowing down. They don't interact with people and their surroundings normally, they are narrowly focused, yet find themselves more aware of numerous details of the surrounding area. After such incidents, they experience exhaustion, and some residual symptoms. It is difficult to communicate with people when in such a state. So, was this experience of the world more 'real,' because people were taking in more details of the world? It would seem so, if total, accurate, moment to moment sensory info is the arbiter, for 'most real'. (We know that what's happening in those states, is that adrenaline causes hyper-attentive focus, which stresses the nervous system until adrenaline is depleted). The point is, someone totally focused on realistic details of experience moment to moment with 'tunnel vision,' is not engaging a clearly navigable perspective on events and interactions, even if the associated prospectus could be deemed more reflective of empirically established reality. To subscribe to the Randian philosophy over the Nietzschean, one must incorporate an updated understanding of what it means to say people have selves, agency, and grasp clear universal morals. What these things really entail, for the modern educated person, is the recognition that they involve an adaptive mode for humans of interacting with the world, more than they entail empirically verifiable truth claims. To claim in contrast, that one is instead a Nietzschean, is more like saying, that one's preferred perspective on the world, is that of someone who is always in a car crash, or always in a shootout. It is therefore amusing to note, that Nietzsche would no doubt appreciate this extreme characterization.
@timkunkel5431
@timkunkel5431 2 ай бұрын
Whut.
@AnselLindner
@AnselLindner Ай бұрын
Polar opposite personalities, but made it work. Congrats.
@lemoneyesalt5513
@lemoneyesalt5513 2 ай бұрын
Man any videos related to this topic just get sniped by the algorithm. 1000 views? This should be at 1M, at the very least 100k
@BenjaminABoyce
@BenjaminABoyce 2 ай бұрын
A decent view count for me is 10k, after a few days. This one is obviously being held back though.
@BenjaminABoyce
@BenjaminABoyce 2 ай бұрын
Could also have something to do with the Trump charge
@adrianstumpp5883
@adrianstumpp5883 2 ай бұрын
ethics is dependent on aesthetics. Part of how we got into this situation was by believing that if we said it was the other way around, it would make it true. Wrong. Pretending that preferring Marvel to Shakespeare has nothing to do with this is pure cope. Now we reap what we sowed.
@RAINYPOTATOpacifictime
@RAINYPOTATOpacifictime 2 ай бұрын
More of a ‘versation this time…maybe the first time I’ve seen a guest not be calm.
@meh583
@meh583 2 ай бұрын
wow worlds collide
@BenjaminABoyce
@BenjaminABoyce 2 ай бұрын
*collude
@Knuck_Knucks
@Knuck_Knucks 2 ай бұрын
ok? This was fun. I think. 🐿
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 2 ай бұрын
Interesting point on 'societal repression,' but obviously there's such a thing as healthy repression, to a certain extent.
@EriPages
@EriPages Ай бұрын
Thoughts on "ethical" Polygyny (a.k.a. Multiple Wives) for babymaxxxing?
@devin_3875
@devin_3875 2 ай бұрын
Cat wizards!!!!! 😻
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 2 ай бұрын
Benjamin doesn't have a chronic debilitating addiction to all games, why would anyone even suggest such a notion??
@AndyJarman
@AndyJarman 2 ай бұрын
Oh dear.
@Zentz29
@Zentz29 2 ай бұрын
❤️🐈🐕💜
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 2 ай бұрын
What if a main part of the intergenerational improvement of humanity, IS to become predisposed and enculturated, to be more loving? *Malcolm-bot's brain explodes*
@Brianfailedgot2keepontruckin
@Brianfailedgot2keepontruckin 13 күн бұрын
Im sorry, but dude and his wife are on some other weird level i just can't understand. I am also not sure it is a place the rest of humanity should try to go. Secondly, the fact that him and his wife are huge fans of genetic testing to screen out diseases from children, but are willing to make an exception for autism because "it is an identity" makes it hard for me to take anything else he has to say seriously. It shows they are more than willing to out their personal biases and political viewes in front of serious work that could actually be done.
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 2 ай бұрын
Yeah marriage needs to be more pragmatic most of the time, it's true "marriage for love" is in large part a relatively recent historical development. Didn't it come from...um...Romanticism? (I'd say, you probably still should rly like someone with whom you enter into an important lifelong social/legal contract, duhh. And if you happen to love them right away, well that's splendid).
@RoyalProtectorate
@RoyalProtectorate Ай бұрын
KInda of sad that malcom is still constrained in terms of his thinking in the box when it comes to Nazism and Israel lately but to be honest most people are and it is hard to relate outside of our current mainstream history overtone window
@acuerdox
@acuerdox 2 ай бұрын
"god is love" comes from ancient Christians teachings (-_-)
@sameash3153
@sameash3153 2 ай бұрын
1 John 4:8 Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.
@mregskwach6037
@mregskwach6037 2 ай бұрын
this is a childish take on the story of Helen of Troy, and also a completely false understanding of perennial mysticism. Dude is obviously smart, but too obsessed with his own egotistical hipster irony a la 2003.
@dgh5760
@dgh5760 2 ай бұрын
I had to slow down the video - Malcolm, please, take a breath and slow down. I enjoyed the calmversation but geez loueez, my blood pressure went through the roof as I struggled to keep up. LOL. The worst decisions are made solely through emotion and not critical thinking. Woke Libs are all about emotions and want everything to be seen through an emotional lens IMO. I agree with a lot of what Malcolm was stating. Now, please excuse me. I have to go put cold towels over my ears. The road to hell is paved with good intentions is a truism passed down to us through centuries. Disregard it at your peril.
@AndraMikkelsen
@AndraMikkelsen 2 ай бұрын
Yes, worth listening to, but speed plus all those "umms" and "ers", and "likes" made me want to stop listening. I stuck it out.
@michaelweber5702
@michaelweber5702 2 ай бұрын
COME ON , this speaker is accurate in his intelligent thoughts ...
@KramRemin
@KramRemin 2 ай бұрын
Oh boy, oh boy. Running his little mouth like a ten-year old about CHROY, and love motivating the disaster.
@RedTitan5
@RedTitan5 Ай бұрын
Malcolm slapping his 2 yr old son is super weird and evil..
@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756
@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756 Ай бұрын
Seriously depends on the strength, timing, and his energy when doing it. I agree it is sketch though. I can theoretically get it, but my kids throw fits and I know that anxiety spike it can cause. Like do you really keep a level head everytime?
@SonoTom
@SonoTom 2 ай бұрын
Malcolm failed to explain Islamist-Progressive co-operation. It's purely about shared hostility to their common enemies/targets. Interesting that he ended this by rejecting a New-Age-like value of 'love above all', which seems to be Benjamin's sentiment. Will Ben reconsider, or double down? *based Greeks are based.*
@adrianstumpp5883
@adrianstumpp5883 2 ай бұрын
I can't tell if this is a political converZation or a philosophical converZation. Blurred lines, that's all I'm saying. #Thicke. Lol.
@daheikkinen
@daheikkinen 2 ай бұрын
This person seems hopped up. I mean, his speech patterns are sporadic. He needs to slow down. The novelist Karl Ove Knausgaard said something akin to literature (the words that last) is the ability to slow thinking down. Maybe he was just nervous or something.
@anaromello
@anaromello 2 ай бұрын
I hate when people talk slowly. I like his flow.
@anomietoponymie2140
@anomietoponymie2140 2 ай бұрын
Pffff 🙄, Troy was not about "love." What a child Malcolm is. I'm outa here already.
@LarzTTV
@LarzTTV Ай бұрын
Hey, Malcolm. Maybe don't slap your toddler while being interviewed. He is just 2 years old, you. If you cant parent a child without abusing them, then maybe dont have them.
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