Building a IP66 junction box using WAGO TOPJOB DIN rail terminals - S-Plan wiring
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Күн бұрынWe love the Wago heating junction 407-2301, but what about when you need a higher IP rating. In this video, we show how to build an s-plan heating junction box using the Wago TopJob DIN rail terminals.
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Time Stamps
00:00 Wago topjob s plan heating system
00:32 Wago 207-4301
01:04 Wiring mess
01:54 Race time
02:10 IP rated enclosure
03:10 Creating the enclosure
06:06 Loads of space
06:34 Din rails
07:11 Colour terminals
08:33 Other Wago din rail connectors
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@efixx 2 жыл бұрын
Junction box part list www.efixx.co.uk/Projects/wago-topjob-s-plan-wiring
@johnstancliff7328 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they used this system here in North America as normal wiring.... the setup is so much cleaner then wire caps and is so much easier to service! thanks for ther video...
@efixx 2 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@paullyons4624 2 жыл бұрын
Really neat setup, if I came across that in someone’s house I’d be seriously impressed given the mess heating system wiring normally is.
@h8ryj 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct. But you got to remember a heating system wiring is often worked on by many different trades people, over years of maintenance, at the end it turns into a pigeon nest and often needs totally renewing. This is a wonderful setup.
@Dog-whisperer7494 2 жыл бұрын
The Honeywell wiring centre is just as good and already labelled , but yes I agree that is a great bit of kit and looks nice and neat. Great video guy’s as always 👍❤️
@JasperJanssen 2 жыл бұрын
The Honeywell has screws, though. Kind of works but not ideal.
@J4MB0 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you showing more industrial style solutions. I use this style of wago terminal when building industrial control panels. I use the wago smart printer for marking. It's pricy but very good. Also, wago do a marker pen. Ask your rep for one!
@efixx 2 жыл бұрын
On it
@brianwood5220 2 жыл бұрын
Great demo guys, love the Wago products. Thanks for sharing.
@MatSmithLondon 2 жыл бұрын
By the way, I have learnt LOADS from this channel. I've gone from DIYer to "competent person" (at least I hope the building inspector for our home build agrees....) I learned about Topjob S here on this channel, spent a painful 3 days trying to work out the product numbers I would need, then bought a whole load of connectors to do our home renovation with! I bought a nice large galv steel lockable enclosure from TLC (their IP65 ones), some 100x100 steel trunking (again - learned loads from this channel about cutting in the turnbuckles) and I'm wiring all 38 lighting circuits back to this enclosure. I'm using the Wago Topjob S as a kind of "patch panel" at the top of the enclosure so that I could change the configuration of the lighting later. e.g. swap switches out for dimmers, connect various light circuits together, etc. Learnt loads about regulations, even how to ensure the galv trunking installation complies with regs, all from this channel. Big thanks for the excellent content.
@ciaranharrington4141 2 жыл бұрын
38 lighting circuits in a house?? Do you live in a palace??
@MatSmithLondon 2 жыл бұрын
@@ciaranharrington4141 Just finished documenting all the wiring drops today, and it's actually 47... by way of example 4 bathrooms (our en-suite has 3 circuits, one for exposed brick wall uplights, undersink, and ceiling spots, the others have 2 each). Kitchen has 9 circuits including outside / roof overhang. It's a lot, but we have all the walls and ceilings off so it makes sense to run a LOT of cable as I'm doing it myself so not paying per drop!
@Adrianyoutubing 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who is not a plumber or and electrician, but works in industrial instrumentation and control, I was shocked at the installation of my boiler a few years ago. Stuff all the gubbins in a 25mm double surface pattress and a blanking plate. I didn't swop it all out for a small 4x4 din rail box with some weidermuller terminals I pinched from work. I do like the Wago stuff, and use. Their Eithercat PLCs a lot. But weidermuller is more readily available and has more options, (Larger conductors, fused blocks, switches etc... ) Also the jumper system in the weidermuller ZDU terminals is simpler to use IMHO.
@thoughtful_criticiser 2 жыл бұрын
As an electrical engineer, who paid for his degree by working as a plumber. I wish I had known about this system, if available, back then. It would have saved me a lot of time and hassle. It also looks more professional.
@jamessteven5293 2 жыл бұрын
Am from tanzania. This isThe good ideal, goodconector i like this
@NiKo-ig2td 2 жыл бұрын
As a suggestion you may wish to look at using the Wago 261-331/334/336/337 and 333 if needed. The reason is that the topjob has the cable entry/exit on top which puts more strain on the cable immediate bending once exited the connector, whereas the 261 range is side entry/exit and will result is less stress for the cable connection. Advantage of the topjob is the additional connection using the push in jumper bar.
@christastic100 2 жыл бұрын
Still like the large Drayton heating junction box LWC 1 for indoor dry conditions for both Y and S plan. Loads of space ,cable grips and also it’s got all the link cables in the box ready for use . This looks very neat idea for certain environments though.
@user-hf5nh8pr4g Жыл бұрын
6:09 My fingers never regret going with a larger box.
@blahh397 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and a very neat and professional looking finish. Using this shows that you care about the final look of the product, even though it will be hidden under a lid. As most of these boxes are hidden away in the airing cupboard, are we concerned that it is slightly on the larger size? The customer can always hang their damp socks off it.
@MatSmithLondon 2 жыл бұрын
Nice heatshrink labelling! What are you using for that? Interested in product numbers here... I have the Brother pt300vp
@lesmoor001 2 жыл бұрын
neat job
@davideyres955 Жыл бұрын
Just about to put these in in my place with some N Bundy flexible trunking to route the cables over to the valves because the plumber put the wiring centre ( actually a bunch of screw terminals with some electricians tape wound around them) at the back of the airing cupboard behind the hot water cylinder. Just luck that I’ve not needed to replace any of the valve motors. Also adding in some extra connectors to monitor when the power is running to the valves via home assistant.
@EliteHydronics. 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant !
@00v3rk1ll 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Can we get the link for the press tool and accessories please!
@baspiepers7415 Жыл бұрын
Can I ask why these ground rail terminals (yellow/green) also have a ground connection against the DIN-rail? Shouldn't the supply already be earthed in the fuse-box for example?
@Heizungspuffer Жыл бұрын
Have you done a closer look at the 2003 series? Very suitable for DB
@MatSmithLondon 2 жыл бұрын
I like how you labelled the E / N / L. The wire colours weren't enough :P
@GavinLawrence747 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, so neat and tidy. Do you guys know if the new wago inline splice connectors are getting a UK release soon?
@efixx 2 жыл бұрын
We’ve heard January.
@GavinLawrence747 2 жыл бұрын
@@efixx lovely stuff.
@adrianmawby9009 2 жыл бұрын
Just come across this clip and I have seen others waxing lyrical over wiring accessories, I am amazed it has taking so long for these types of connections to appear in building electrical installations, I was wiring machine tools with din rail connections over 25 years ago , many machine tools have much higher voltages and currents than LV installations
@tlangdon12 2 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend leaving a wiring diagram in the top of the enclosure, if only to confirm to the next guy that they are dealing with a completely conventional S-Plan System. You can use the diagrams from the Honeywell Wiring Guide and if doing so, I would label the terminals as per the Wiring Guide - this uses numbers (1 thru 10).
@me-gb2wp 2 жыл бұрын
Looking for a good website to buy electrical tools to take out to sweden , any good websites for good electrical tools?
@JaysScript 2 жыл бұрын
Every rewire I do we never install these. Why is that? Is it for plumbers go sort
@MatSmithLondon 2 жыл бұрын
Is it wrong to want to use Wago Topjob S for lighting / ceiling rose connection boxes? Maybe a bit overkill... but wiring up my own home and I know I'll look back in 20 years and be mildly amused with myself
@MW-cr7pn 2 жыл бұрын
You need to be careful with sealed enclosures which are subject to temperature changes... you can end up with a build up of condensation internally. However, you can get IP rated breather vents which will prevent the issue.
@Mike_5 2 жыл бұрын
Nice innovative product here but plumbers on a tight budget job love a Y Plan setup
@Cleofizoid 3 жыл бұрын
We need different colors...you mentioned brown for line (they have blue already), I would add white (neutral in America), black (line in America) and red. Black can double for negative Vdc and finally red for positive Vdc...these colors should be minimum choices for the product line.
@toefeet12_3 2 жыл бұрын
Video was posted 10 mins ago but this comment is 4 months old?
@Cleofizoid 2 жыл бұрын
@@toefeet12_3 I've noticed the Channel reposting videos from just a few months ago...like this one. Why my comment from back then remained...no clue.
@martinsnibbor7691 2 жыл бұрын
I used black/red and blue /yellow for fire alarm retrofit in California , Los Angeles our Electrical inspector was impressed with the quality of our work.
@Cleofizoid 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinsnibbor7691 So TopJob S terminal blocks now come in these colors?
@OldLordSpeedy 2 жыл бұрын
It is look funny with the green-yellow clamp, it is direct connect to the DIN-rail but you click an extra connector for them together. It is it for the green-yellow electrical test (better connection)?
@tlangdon12 2 жыл бұрын
No, it was just to be doubly sure that the two earth blocks were connected together.
@raychambers3646 2 жыл бұрын
Made similar with klippons ,but labelled cores.
@aryehelectricalltd7247 2 жыл бұрын
woooowwwww amazing just a question why a consumer unit have to be metal and this box no ???
@markenglandle 2 жыл бұрын
No control devices in this one.
@normanboyes4983 2 жыл бұрын
It may have something to do with the power density in a consumer unit (potentially 100 Amps in the U.K.) compared to a S Plan wiring centre which is probably a maximum of 13 Amps depending on how many pumps are on the system.
@petermichaelgreen 2 жыл бұрын
The direct regs answer is that the regulation in question applies to "consumer units and similar switchgear". Exactly how similar the switchgear in question has to be to a consumer unit to count is not clear, but plain terminals are not switchgear at all. The reg was introduced in reaction to fires starting in consumer units. I believe the fundametal issue with modern CU designs is the use of screw terminals gripping onto a busbar, which can easilly lead to poor connections. Combine that with high currents and thermoplastic enclosures and you have a recipie for hot embers escaping the enclosure.
@gadgetman36 2 жыл бұрын
Why is it acceptable to use plastic junction boxes when fuseboards have to be metal?
@travoltasbiplane1551 2 жыл бұрын
because wylex don't make them.... it's been deemed a lower risk... and london fire brigade haven't deemed it necessary to get involved as yet.
@OldLordSpeedy 2 жыл бұрын
Normally do you can buy same boxes in metal too. For IP66/67/69 it is equal if you use metal or plastic boxes. But for insulation between the different cables do you need plastic only, metal is forbidden!
@dennisphoenix1 2 жыл бұрын
Consumer units need to be metal if on an exit route from the building. Everybody fits metal regardless of location. There is nothing wrong with plastic consumer units , people who install them badly or connect up new circuits leaving loose connections are to blame. It was probably more prevalent in london due to the cosmopolitan population.
@andysims4906 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a bit like cheep dry lining boxes highly combustible
@dennisphoenix1 2 жыл бұрын
@@andysims4906 you can get fibreglass pads for inside them for that reason. Takes up space in the box and reduces space for cabling
@jonnysegway7866 2 жыл бұрын
The Wago 407-2301 could have offered a few more spare connections, it was too small, not too big!!
@Alpine_flo92002 2 жыл бұрын
Twisting the wires actually is a bad idead for something that might have a bit of vibration as while the springs are strong they do still slip.
@pwaelectricalltd29 2 жыл бұрын
I really detest seeing junction boxes filled with Wago connectors. However, this Wago DIN mounted system looks much more professional.
@alparkopp 2 жыл бұрын
What language are these 2 speak?
@tommymack3210 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously lower the sensitivity on one of the microphones, the breathing sound is very annoying
@col8981 2 жыл бұрын
Looks expensive
@WCamden 2 жыл бұрын
Them knockout tools are fucking ridiculous, drilling a hole to use a different machine to create a bigger hole, complete waste of time and money
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