Carnage Plus EP60 - Building A Barra For Boost

Carnage Plus EP60 - Building A Barra For Boost - Part-1

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4 жыл бұрын

To make sure our Mazda's new Barra engine has a chance of living its best life we pulled it down and gave it valve springs, head studs, a head gasket and oil pump gears. Here's how we did it.
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@tcpnetworks 4 жыл бұрын

Who was doing the edit? Music off with dialogue!

@gossy351 4 жыл бұрын

Scotty must have the virus, no Shifter was used in this episode.

@codyhayden-holmes3562 4 жыл бұрын

buy an impact screw driver . rbs have the same issue with getting the oil pump apart or if you have a welder handy just weld a nut to the screw

@craigrobson630 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah get an impact driver, Soft jaws for the vice, Don't lift the cams on an angle to get the caps off. Oh and most gas engines are clean inside because well they run on gas. Love this channel.

@scod3908 4 жыл бұрын

Yep, despite what the old boys taught in shop class, you’re less likely to break old rusty or stuck bolts a with an adjustable impact driver than doing it by hand.

@BIGSMOKE-bl2lq 4 жыл бұрын

I use a big screw driver put as much down pressure and twist as i can then smack it on the top with a hammer it works well enough

@scod3908 4 жыл бұрын

That was my method before I started using the impact :)

@janeblogs324 4 жыл бұрын

After driving in/out over 5000 screws I learnt the power drill (impact or not) will strip way less heads. Keep the drill at 1 speed and while under power rotate the drill back and forth 2° repeatedly to keep the Phillips seated (they slowly auto disengage after about 5 revs}

@brendandavies1299 4 жыл бұрын

Got a real good laugh when the screen changed to the oil pump under the drill press, some things are inevitable.

@Pats-Shed 4 жыл бұрын

I hate those Phillips screws too, a lot of brake disc retaining screws are the same and are rusted in. I use an old fashioned impact driver to get them started, but can be too aggressive on precision light alloy parts. I keep a selection of cobalt reverse spiral drill bits just for these kinds of situations. It should be noted that oil pump gears are precision ground/lapped and should not be separated as the inner and outer gears must remain in the same relative rotation.

@MatrixGammna 4 жыл бұрын

I love these type of videos where they pull everything apart and do it back up

@1953fords 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome Scotty I’m gonna be doing this to my FG real soon. This couldn’t have come at a better time. Thanks!!!

@lukeandjamie9976 3 жыл бұрын

Don't think you need to do it to the fg think all those problems have been fixed

@rockers2rockers616 4 жыл бұрын

I like the way Mr Scotty presents this project with his calm way of talking it makes a nice change and gives a novice confidence to carryout a project such as this. Choice mate!

@madmick3794 4 жыл бұрын

Carnage to quarantine rescue again. Cheers to the crew.

@dinosshed 4 жыл бұрын

Petroleum jelly for the pump gears as it dissolves far quicker than bearing grease. I'd use the battery impact gun with getting the screws out, allows you more downward pressure and high impact force on those awesome screws. Good donk these ford sixes.

@idoskidsattheawesomeauzzie9255 4 жыл бұрын

Thank You 🙏, As you 🎞 filming this takedown & rebuild has helped me with my Build of the Triple Turbo Barra

@hespie1 4 жыл бұрын

Nice one Scotty and Keyan. I have often heard of these mods but haven't seen it explained so clearly. Cheers.

@robbie123robbie123 4 жыл бұрын

Great vid Scotty. Loving the Barra Build. A great tool to use for those oil pump screws is an impact screwdriver. You hit the end with a hammer and it turns the screw as you hit it. I use these on old motorcycle engine case screws and nothing else works. They cost about $20 from Amazon.

@dennigorgorinis3245 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Scotty! Love your content mate, I always watch your vids on my lunch break, keep up the good work 👍🏼

@smd824nz6 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Scotty, love the build. Im slowly build a n/a barra here in nz and just but to do oil pump gears. Will be watching closely to whst you do too mate 🍻

@illgtr 4 жыл бұрын

Www.dominatormotorsports.com.au

@jamesblanton9364 4 жыл бұрын

Good 1 Scotty, another brilliant entertaining and informative upload mate, i always look forward to a new CARNAGE ep.

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated

@ohcamsrazor1966 4 жыл бұрын

Good to see a recovery from broken oil pump screws , this is probably what is going to happen to most of us in our shed.

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

That's why I showed it. People put shit on us for fuck ups but the truth is everyone fucks up, but we show you how to fix the fuck ups. :)

@marklewis1934 4 жыл бұрын

You sure got excited (relieved) when the drill self extracted the broken bolt :) Nice to see how that pump actually comes apart and we see the workings. Great work documenting this procedure.

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

You and me both!

@SerpentineUsurper 3 жыл бұрын

Legendary video fellas. Keep up the great work!

@xozindustries7451 4 жыл бұрын

Good job, thanx for letting people know about the compressed air embolism issue, it drives me crazy when I see people blow them selves off with compressed air, not only the embolisms but all the grease and dirt on your skin can get pushed through the skin into your blood stream, or pores, not good either way

@vtwin_vandals 4 жыл бұрын

It drives you crazy? How many air embolisms from a compressor have you personally witnessed or have first hand knowledge of? I bet it's a big fat fuckin zero, don't believe everything ya tafe teacher says

@michaelcstephens2783 4 жыл бұрын

Scotty this video is exactly what I need !!! Thanks for the tips and showing how to set up a BARRA for boost !!!

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

Happy to help!

@jamiegreenwood7996 4 жыл бұрын

scotty your knowledge on the barras is awesome .enjoying all the carnage videos and builds .....they are one of my favorite engines.....ford has produced .....i own about twenty barras ....passoniate owner of ba s and bfs ...also replacing timming chains at present on my ba xr8 finding the job a bit of challange has all its rewards in the end

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

Right on!

@HarryCoyle 4 жыл бұрын

Street mag I have mostly all your mags

@counterfeitcash6513 4 жыл бұрын

well done Scotty, it is a very slick 6 pack.

@MrBrandonfulton 2 жыл бұрын

I've watched this video a few times now. Helps tremendously here in the states!

@STREETMACHINETV 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to help

@benbullock2281 2 жыл бұрын

Hey mate, I’m an Australian mechanic working in Europe. With the rust and the torx I learnt to use a 3/8 ratchet in those situations because it gives a better feel and use Hazet tin coated torx bits. Using a hand impact driver like snap on PIT120 or KOKEN attack drive can help but I just get a punch the same diameter of the torx and hit it with hammer to jar the torx so it loosens.

@mchaelparisi8253 11 ай бұрын

Great work well explained keep it up Scotty

@wrx2hot4u 4 жыл бұрын

Top vid mate👍 100% better then most these other channels.

@mrgtsx 4 жыл бұрын

great video guys!

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@Icyes21 4 жыл бұрын

Hello from the states! Love your videos Scotty! Very well done, fun and informative. I've learned quite a bit about the barra from watching you. I dealt with the same issue on my oil pump bolts. The same exact ones too. Its strange. I still wonder why they designed them a philips head screw. Lol

@sebdoucas3454 4 жыл бұрын

And of course my old oil pump was shown at Maxx 😂

@stykytte 4 жыл бұрын

Those two minutes from about 10-12 mins through without music were great.

@glensgraphix 4 жыл бұрын

Some great tips for those who have not pulled apart a Barra yet.

@LV-FOURTWENTYSIX 4 жыл бұрын

hey Scotty and team. I know it's all time and money but I'd love to see a series of episodes with the engineering of a car. for example the black AU xr6. convert to auto, put on a full exhaust, have it engineered and regod, then compete in drag challenge. would be nice to see the in and out of engineering to make it all street legal. keep up the good work mate. love the carnage series!

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

The plan is to do that with the Volvo eventually

@SUPERCOACH360 4 жыл бұрын

@@STREETMACHINETV yer scotty apart from being great entertainment showing blokes the full process from concept to rego and insurance and a realistic cost would be freeking great, man hours are not countable but please tell the loyal viewers the full price of the bits you are using, as always love the show

@MafiaboysWorld 4 жыл бұрын

@@STREETMACHINETV Only thing left needed now to pass engineering would be a brake upgrade, true? 🤔 That's the one thing that hurt my bank account doing the 355mm rotors and 6pot calipers, so prepare for your 6th Brinks truck of money to arrive. 😂

@beardbuilds5140 4 жыл бұрын

all-motor why would you convert it to Auto ? Being a factory 3 pedal was the biggest part of the appeal of the car !!

@paulkaplan8420 4 жыл бұрын

Great show; many thanks for the episode on The Mighty Barra (VROOM)!!! Excellent production quality, well miked & photographed, very clear explanations of your building process. My first episode, now I'm hooked. Looking forward to more shows, particularly how to reuse a dead 1997-98 Subaru Outback 5 speed wagon (USA) with either a replacement JDM EJ257 STI motor, diffs, ecu, etc or anything else that will fit for possible JeepAru Dirtmobile or drag car. Aussies rule mate!

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

Mighty Car Mods did something like that

@jimclarke1108 4 жыл бұрын

Great lesson on Barra's with experience ))

@Paul-qq7mh 4 жыл бұрын

I think you have done this once before. Good job Scotty.

@stoneshrink 4 жыл бұрын

when describing springs.... closed/open and what measurement at open. For example, you can have 95# closed springs and #400 open or 95/150 or whatever... the final number we need is distance to coil bind.... thanks. Not trying to be a know-it-all, just sharing tips that helped me. Heat is your friend at getting stuck or loc-tite'd screws out. Failing that, weld a nut through the center to the screw, count to 10, then twist out for the win (basically using heat and attaching a removal tool all at once). The other thing, take your brass hammer, a solid tap (almost a hit) on the protected stem of the valve will guarantee your valve won't drop because one of those infernal valve retainers didn't hold (do NOT ask me how I know about that... IIRC, it cost me a new, expensive motor). love the show, keep up the great entertainment.

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

We weren't supplied those specs

@scod3908 4 жыл бұрын

For those tricky tight screws, tap the driver bit into the screw with a light hammer, then use an impact driver with adjustable power (I use my little Dewalt on middle setting) 1980’s landcruiser water pump screws are similar and can be a pain.

@davidbergemann8095 4 жыл бұрын

Good quality impact screwdriver for removing the oil pump plate. I also prime the pump with a little Vaseline as it assists with quick oil pick up but then breaks down in the hot oil rather than possibly blocking any of the finer oil galleries. Keep up the good programming

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, as we've discovered.

@obrienracing1 4 жыл бұрын

Number 3 bit and an impact driver for the oil pump gears works well. Lots of pressure (I layed it on ground and put body weight on it). I messed up and used a number 2 for one of my first screws. Stripped the hell out of it. Cut a slit in it and used a flat head bit in the impact driver lol. Reinstalled it same way also with botched screw reinstalled. Figured its an impossible screw to find.

@JediMindTrikkz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this vid exactly what im chasing

@gregiles908 8 ай бұрын

Impact driver to open the Oil Pump works a LOT better matey. The old school type with a mallet.

@cars3800 2 жыл бұрын

14:57 it's a year on so a bit late now, but for everyone else usuing this tool, make sure the 2 spacer blocks on top of the tool are underneath it. It makes everything line up and can get the new spring in without fighting it. It is on the wrong side here. Dominator had a batch of tools go out the wrong way round. There a great company with awesome products. Cheers

@karlwhite5704 4 жыл бұрын

Quick question. For a 500hp application you would need oil pump gears, valve springs, headstuds but would you also need the billet backing plate and any other goodies?

@travisboorman8084 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Scott. Use vassoline in the oil pump not grease as the grease tends to stick around and burn as the vasso melts and disperses in the oil when it has done its job.

@justanotherguy9664 4 жыл бұрын

21:17 - awesome inclusion for the vid. Well done

@christophergill375 4 жыл бұрын

Lol everybody cut out the impact driver comments. I'm sure they would have read at least 50 of them.. "The best drivers are always in the stands". Great video keep up the awesome work!

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

True story

@DxsPro 4 жыл бұрын

20:00 maybe use an impact driver to break the seal on the Phillip head screws/bolts?

@JyveKilla 4 жыл бұрын

great vid. scotty you can get some better luck with those screws by tapping them with a drift and hammer plus also hitting the screwdriver into the screw.

@simonbond6510 4 жыл бұрын

Heard a bit about opening up ring gaps on boosted motors, is this required on Barra's or is it just hope for the best. BTW love watching your projects

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

Hope for the best. Doesn't really seem necessary on the Barra

@lachlanclinch1560 4 жыл бұрын

New to engine builds, What type greese do you use for inside of the engine, on spring Valves and oil pump

@MrArty250 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Scotty did you resurface the head before you put it back on the block ?

@shaunpc2512 4 жыл бұрын

Ah sweet, it’s a BarraMonday for me 😁

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

Good choice!

@DodgyBrothersEngineering 4 жыл бұрын

That has to be the most cumbersome valve spring tool I have ever laid eyes on. Wouldn't catch me dead using it.

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

Have you ever done valve springs in a Barra? The tool is designed to change the springs while still on the engine. The pros can do it in around an hour or so, in the car.

@DodgyBrothersEngineering 4 жыл бұрын

@@STREETMACHINETV have assembled literally hundreds if not thousands of heads. I used to work for Superformance in the 80's / 90's. Can see that tool galling the valve stem very very easily. Have changed springs on cars as well, I just don't like the design of the tool. For $150 (I looked it up yesterday) you could put together a proper head bench yourself that does all kinds of heads.

@kiallonnee8230 4 жыл бұрын

Love the info guys be awesome if you could run through some of the costs appropriately changing some of the components.

@Boss-zl7lv 4 жыл бұрын

Hay Scotty great job. I have a 2009 fg falcon straight lpg car and it is a silver top engine. Do they have the stronger rods ? or is it only the green top engines

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

Ford discontinued the green colour on the LPG E-Gas engine during the FG range but they have the good rods still

@walterbentley745 4 жыл бұрын

That impact will bite you one day Scotty,will pick up a thread on the way out in aluminium,I learnt the hard way lol...love your work mate

@joevd9949 4 жыл бұрын

Little trick I use for striped philips heads is put some valve grinding paste into it and it will come out

@mezje 4 жыл бұрын

That moment where it self extracted, it's a rare feeling but boy it's a good one.

@craigrobson630 4 жыл бұрын

Not a rare moment, It's the taper on the head of the screw that's tight.

@Mustardmartin 4 жыл бұрын

The oil pump screws are meant to be impact screwdriver out and in there is a special screwdriver for that that you whack and they come out they are not in tight they just need a good knock loose a impact driver is usually enough to get the job done just gotta be careful to not strip the head thats why there is a special screwdriver you can hit but its not so necessary its the whacking motion that loosens the screw

@cliffharrington6500 2 жыл бұрын

May I ask what type of grease did you use on the oil pump assembly?

@AndrewEG 4 жыл бұрын

make sure you use feeler gauges to center the pump over the crank snout. Best to install it when the engine is vertical so that the crank is centered in the block.

@gregmyatt9932 4 жыл бұрын

Scotty, ring gaps! Should have done ring gaps buddy. I even gave mine a hone and new rings, even though it had slight hone marks from new.

@xsniperprox1 4 жыл бұрын

Barra's are like the industrial non diesel inline 6 engine that is only unreliable if you know next to nothing about servicing. Ford Australia pretty much threw the whole party itself at the engine so its an all rounder. gotta love the Barra.

@Diypools-888 2 жыл бұрын

So not bolting to the sump what did you bolt it to ?

@barra245t2 4 жыл бұрын

This is the series I've been waiting on.ive got a ba2 xr6t 6spd manual,I've got almost all my parts ready for a engine build,manley pistons and rods,git a girdle and arp main studs head studs and a bunch of atomic stuff.i can get permaseal mls gaskets easy,but should I try to find cometic

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

I haven't used the Permaseal ones. I assume they are a factory replacement

@1977jelliott 2 жыл бұрын

I like watching you struggling with the oil pump screws, using an impact driver is a better method

@Bilal_El-Hassan 3 жыл бұрын

hey Scotty what gearbox are you running. thanks

@Slowwags 3 жыл бұрын

Would yous be able to do a parts list on it and where they were sourced ?

@Danielg-wv7hw 4 жыл бұрын

Hey scotty I need to know what size cometic you used??? Please get back to me as I'm going to build one of these lpg engines with dominator parts but need to know what size gasket to order????

@Dropbear237 4 жыл бұрын

If you damage a screw head you can usually fix it by flattening the top with a punch the tapping the screwdriver in to reshape the top. You can avoid damaging tight screws by giving them a tap with a hammer and a punch or using a screwdriver with a metal end through the handle instead of a punch. Don't hit too hard on screws that are in aluminum parts.

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

The Maxx Performance guys showed me the way, using an impact driver. You only get one shot but it works

@Dropbear237 4 жыл бұрын

@@STREETMACHINETV you can do that too. But not everyone has an impact driver so I didn't add it. You can use just a screwdriver with a metal end by turning it in the direction you want and tapping the end with a hammer. I always do that when taking out the screw that holds brake discs and drums to hubs.

@lostfound2158 4 жыл бұрын

hey scotty after doing all this to the engine is the green top still a better engine or by doing the same to a silver top will you get the same result?

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

Green top will still be better, but everything needs valve springs

@lostfound2158 4 жыл бұрын

@@STREETMACHINETV sweet thanks for the heads up

@davejennings5140 4 жыл бұрын

So do all Barras have a factory windage tray?

@mannycalavera121 2 жыл бұрын

impact driver on the oil pump screws?

@joeschlotthauer840 4 жыл бұрын

Everything in this video, I need it, in the United States...

@plumbs7199 4 жыл бұрын

I was lucky! I got my oil pump gears out .

@damogoodfella742 3 жыл бұрын

Hey mate do you guys have a normal shop? If so what would you charge to do my pump gears, valve springs, head studs, cooler on my bf xr6 turbo if I supply all quality parts?

@STREETMACHINETV 3 жыл бұрын

We don't work on other people's cars but we would recommend Maxx Performance for a job like that

@markcozzie 4 жыл бұрын

Impact screw driver for oil pump,will make it so much easier 👍

@cme2cau 4 жыл бұрын

When you have the head on the bench, what stops the valves dropping when you use the valve spring tool?

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

Small rags

@cme2cau 4 жыл бұрын

@@STREETMACHINETV Thanks for that. That valve spring compressor is such a great idea, no force on the valve at all!

@integrab21a1 2 жыл бұрын

Buddy a 15$ hammer punch is what you need for those oil pump screws

@madogmabz 3 жыл бұрын

What do you you use to stop the valves from falling out while you set the valve spring collers?

@STREETMACHINETV 3 жыл бұрын

A rag stuffed under the valves

@madogmabz 3 жыл бұрын

@@STREETMACHINETVthat's what I do. Never done a barra though..

@krits3902 3 жыл бұрын

In what sequence do we loosen the head.

@madogmabz 3 жыл бұрын

With those oil pump screws .I'm thinking you shouldve popped them using two people one using a spanner on the bit while being on the bit with a 8 mll scanner .

@stykytte 4 жыл бұрын

The only thing more painful than the music was your screw removal method. Seriously though the bits without music were great.

@shannan1561 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Scotty & Co. When replacing the Barra Lifters, Should the Roller Rocker be replaced in the original position Ie: Following the same Cam Lobe Wear Pattern. OR doesn't matter if you throw them in a parts cleaner & reinstall anywhere with new lifters?? Cheers

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

We've just put them back on any lobe

@shannan1561 4 жыл бұрын

@@STREETMACHINETV Nice one my man!! Cheers for the reply & keep it up 👌

@Brandonvscars695 4 жыл бұрын

So tempted to Barra swap an el hey

@jadegeorge6302 4 жыл бұрын

What gearbox goes with this motor? I'm from South Africa? Any possibility of having one shipped here?

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

They had various transmissions available over the years. 4, 5 and 6-speed autos and 5 & 6 speed manuals

@TurismoVZ 4 жыл бұрын

if you don't have an impact screw driver, in a pinch use a good tang through screw driver and hit it with a knock-omiter while turning

@knives4apro485 Жыл бұрын

why on earth did u not use an impact driver for the oil pump bolts.

@highpointsights Жыл бұрын

How bad do the cam bearings have to get before you throw away the head?

@STREETMACHINETV Жыл бұрын

There are no bearings, the cams sit straight into the head. I haven't had to throw one away yet.

@highpointsights Жыл бұрын

@@STREETMACHINETV do you ever have line bore the cam bearing towers?

@iamasmurf1122 Жыл бұрын

those bolts that were stuffed up were better undone with an impact driver and ball pein hammer

@damianbrennan2258 10 ай бұрын

Your doing it hard mate put it in the press hold the screwdriver down with ram

@michaeldaley4418 4 жыл бұрын

Loved the video but please explain more. Little things us lamer people don't understand, clearly it's child's play to you but I need more step by step guide as putting head Studds and valve springs is something i really want to do but scared I'll never get it back together without having to pay someone

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

There's more explanation in the assembly

@ir0nal3x97 4 жыл бұрын

How much would you expect it cost just to do oil pump gears?

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

It's a big job, I don't imagine it would be cheap

@David01.d 4 жыл бұрын

Didn't know that about compressed air

@janeblogs324 4 жыл бұрын

Air in the blood reacts the brain and instadeath. That's why they upturn needles and squirt the air out first

@timsminigarage 4 жыл бұрын

jane blogs it always makes me wonder why they squirt out the air on tv shows before they poison people...

@frankieh2011 4 жыл бұрын

Don't green tops have much higher compression for LPG? How does that work with boost because I didn't see any changing of pistons.

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

Works fine

@frankieh2011 4 жыл бұрын

To what boost? I ask because I have a Egas motor from an FG and I was gonna swap the pistons to lower the compression. I'm actually running JTG liquid gas injection so less likely to detonate anyway but still worry about it.

@STREETMACHINETV 4 жыл бұрын

@@frankieh2011 up to 25psi, but safe at 20psi

@frankieh2011 4 жыл бұрын

Have you got any tips for tuning for high boost on LPG? I'm using liquid gas injection which doesn't use converters and is more efficient and cooling than vapour but I'm betting you have some lessons to give on the subject and I've never seen much info on it. (My car also has a Haltech elite powering it. ). Basically I'm interested in knowing how the gas tuning differs from premium 98 or e85 from an ignition perspective. I'd love to see your VE and advance tables or hear you speak of them sir. Nobody really covers that stuff with LPG and I think it'd be useful to people if someone did.