Conversion therapy: God only knows

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CBS Sunday Morning

CBS Sunday Morning

5 жыл бұрын

An estimated 700,000 adults in the U.S. have received a controversial treatment known as reparative, or conversion therapy, under the belief that homosexuality is caused by nurture, not nature, and can be "cured." Erin Moriarty talks with young men and women who had undergone the treatment (voluntarily or at the behest of their families) in order to adhere to their church's teachings; with Alan Chambers, who was the charismatic director of Exodus International, which promised to convert those with "same-sex attraction"; Nashville pastor Stan Mitchell, who has rejected conversion therapy; and Jeff Johnston of Focus on the Family, which continues to promote the practice for parishioners who do not want to be gay.
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@Glorious_Kim_Jong_Un
@Glorious_Kim_Jong_Un 5 жыл бұрын
*This is illegal in Europe, why isn't it in America?*
@TheVaughan5
@TheVaughan5 5 жыл бұрын
Because society in the U.S.A. is till in many ways very backward.
@amaliesofiavestergaard
@amaliesofiavestergaard 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. This.
@sophiejameson4064
@sophiejameson4064 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheVaughan5 you're so right. What with gay reparative therapy, anti-abortion campaigners and YECs, the USA has a real problem with extreme Christianity.
@dainland432
@dainland432 5 жыл бұрын
Because we have too many backwards Christian idiots here.
@iholesale
@iholesale 5 жыл бұрын
While I am not religious, I do believe in freedom of choice. I think they should have these for people 16 and older that want to go, people should have a choice, but I dont think someone should be able to be sent against their will
@TanukiOfficial
@TanukiOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
People can't change themselves, but they want to change other people. Hypocrisy abounds.
@Erin-Thor
@Erin-Thor 5 жыл бұрын
Tanuki - What gives the religious bigots a sliver of help is that there are ‘some’ people that attempt to change or are successful. There are bisexuals, who can ‘chose’ to ignore their gay feelings and try daily to be heterosexual. But these facts don’t enter their mindsets, they think cure one, all can be cured. I for one firmly believe that the process of ‘conversion therapy’ does infinitely more harm than good. If ANYTHING should ever happen or be allowed, it should occur in a 5-10 minute supervised conversation, it should be supportive, and life affirming. Before you tear me apart, what I am speaking of is a simple "There are some people with sexual feelings for both sexes, and some of those can chose to focus on one, but that might not be for you. Denying your feelings can create more problems for you, so we only as that you consider our words and apply them if you wish." The rest of the conversation should be the importance of accepting yourself, as you are, and knowing that God loves you, and created you, exactly as you are. Then following the 10 minute conversation the parents should spend many, many hours in counseling to learn how God and they can accept their child exactly as he or she is.
@conservativeforcalifornian9882
@conservativeforcalifornian9882 4 жыл бұрын
Tanuki I think people just need to pick up the Bible. I lived a sexually immoral life and it’s God’s words that healed me.
@gameshowguy2000
@gameshowguy2000 4 жыл бұрын
@@conservativeforcalifornian9882 I think you need to get into the 21st century and either put down the Bible, or burn it.
@supersoldier777
@supersoldier777 4 жыл бұрын
@@conservativeforcalifornian9882 You liar.
@jennlemmelin443
@jennlemmelin443 4 жыл бұрын
I know right? Like b**** go to the gym and work on your gluttony
@zachanderson1827
@zachanderson1827 5 жыл бұрын
Parents need to support their kids.
@gracie.1116
@gracie.1116 3 жыл бұрын
Yes exactly thank you❤️🏳️‍🌈
@phr3ui559
@phr3ui559 2 жыл бұрын
No
@VIOLENTNATURE
@VIOLENTNATURE 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@utsavpradhan7126
@utsavpradhan7126 2 жыл бұрын
On what grounds exactly... 😆...
@twsartadventures3660
@twsartadventures3660 2 жыл бұрын
Uh, no, they don't NEED to support their kids... if they are doing something stupid. Like harming their bodies with chemicals because they're not mature enough to think big picture. Blindly supporting your kids makes you a terrible parent.
@Mssipequeen
@Mssipequeen 5 жыл бұрын
I am a Christian and I totally DISAGREE with this therapy . Can't change who you are .
@Mssipequeen
@Mssipequeen 5 жыл бұрын
777 God's Child not against God !! Im talking about the therapy i
@Mssipequeen
@Mssipequeen 5 жыл бұрын
kerri b I’m against the therapiy
@Mssipequeen
@Mssipequeen 5 жыл бұрын
777 God's Child I feel like the therapy’s goal is to change who the person is .
@joshuacarpenter9317
@joshuacarpenter9317 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mssipequeen it's not about changing yourself or others, its about crucifying the desires of your flesh, and letting God change you
@gaiopescatore
@gaiopescatore 5 жыл бұрын
@777 God's Child Interesting to hear that you know what God cannot do. Have you informed God yet?
@thomasraudenbush2074
@thomasraudenbush2074 5 жыл бұрын
"Is homosexuality a choice?" was answered decades ago. NO! IT"S NOT!!!
@texbotany
@texbotany 5 жыл бұрын
I know, even posing the question nowadays is extremely harmful.
@joshuacarpenter9317
@joshuacarpenter9317 5 жыл бұрын
That claim was debunked. It has not yet been proven.
@gaiopescatore
@gaiopescatore 5 жыл бұрын
@@joshuacarpenter9317 Homosexual BEHAVIOUR is a choice, just as heterosexual BEHAVIOUR is. Homosexuality itself, like heterosexuality itself, is certainly not a choice. If homosexuality were a choice, people wouldn’t discover their attraction to other people of the same sex during adolescence, the very time when the desire not to stand out from one’s peers is at its most powerful. If it were a choice, people who can’t or won’t accept their homosexuality wouldn’t squander precious years, sometimes even decades, of their lives, and often also considerable amounts of money, on cruel hoaxes like “ex-gay ministry” and “conversion therapy” (or whatever its peddlers have decided to call it this year) in desperate attempts to change it. They’d simply ditch it and replace it with heterosexuality.
@gaiopescatore
@gaiopescatore 5 жыл бұрын
@cobainzlady I don’t doubt that God has the power to change gays into non-gays - or straights into non-straights - at any time. The evidence suggests that, if he ever performs such transformations, he does so once in a blue moon. As for adolescents, if their sexual attractions change as they get older, that’s fine. If they don’t, that’s fine too. What they definitely DON’T need is officious adults abusively trying to tamper with their sexuality and subjecting them to useless hocus-pocus like “conversion therapy”.
@BeranM
@BeranM 5 жыл бұрын
Engaging in sexual activity of any kind is a choice.
@dani_is_terrible1198
@dani_is_terrible1198 4 жыл бұрын
I love how the mother of Adam said it’s the therapy that killed their relationship! Lol no hunny, it’s the fact that you didn’t accept him. You’re are his mother first. 🤦‍♀️
@gameshowguy2000
@gameshowguy2000 3 жыл бұрын
@@elicapers2446 OK, HE is in the 21st century, SHE is NOT. What do you want her to do, bully him to suicide? EVERYTHING CHANGES OVER TIME. YES, that includes the Bible and God's word. AND DON'T BOTHER TO DISAGREE WITH ME, unless YOU want to be fined like Kobe Bryant, who ALSO gay-bashed.
@twsartadventures3660
@twsartadventures3660 2 жыл бұрын
@@gameshowguy2000 Nope, you literally have no reason to think The Bible has been changed. ... literally, dude. You have no reason to keep repeating this. You're living a lie.
@WillieManga
@WillieManga Жыл бұрын
Technically it is, and I wholeheartedly think it's her fault.
@isochronously
@isochronously 4 жыл бұрын
‘gay people are human’ the government: ‘hmmm we’ll think about it’ -john mulaney
@dan69052
@dan69052 3 жыл бұрын
the truth If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this .The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is, therefore, born with a predetermined attraction. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural expression of mammals & found commonplace in nature. Intelligent research in this area clearly explains this process. If you are truly interested in truth, based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay shows this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for yourself & others this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
@gwynzynoodles2553
@gwynzynoodles2553 2 жыл бұрын
@@dan69052 you know this makes sense cause when my friend was younger her favorites were ALWAYS both the male and females. You were always attracted to your sexual orientation, just didn’t realize it until you got older.
@silverlve70
@silverlve70 5 жыл бұрын
How can people hate love between two consenting adults?
@horticasey
@horticasey 5 жыл бұрын
Would you say the same thing about incestuous relationships? I'm not anti-gay or anything, just wondering if that same logic applies.
@todshi
@todshi 5 жыл бұрын
@@horticasey-Considering all the birth defects and other problems incest creates, I'd say no...
@todshi
@todshi 5 жыл бұрын
@777 God's Child-I'm still flippin' the coin on the existence of God, so your answer would be irreverent to me. But believing in God doesn't answer silver70's question. The only logical answer I can think of, other than the one I have already given, is that people who follows your philosophy hate gay people and they use their religion to mask their bigotry, which they need to hide because 'Christians aren't supposed to hate others'. At least the Alt-Right, who are supposively Christian, admit they hate gays. Why can't you be more honest than those jerkoffs?
@georgewashington4007
@georgewashington4007 5 жыл бұрын
Becuz we dont hate them, im not for conversion therapy, but these people paint christians in a very negative light, most christians dont hate gays, we welcome them, but we believe homosexual sex is a sin, not homosexuals.
@jemacinnis
@jemacinnis 5 жыл бұрын
@777 God's Child There is no god.
@SM-Flyers
@SM-Flyers 5 жыл бұрын
Religion ruins everything.
@tonynegron1927
@tonynegron1927 5 жыл бұрын
🤔 It sure does.
@Cat-yi5mz
@Cat-yi5mz 4 жыл бұрын
Periodt
@robertsherman9975
@robertsherman9975 4 жыл бұрын
SFM it’s not the Religion, it’s the members that not living as believers and followers, of our Lord and Savior- Jesus Christ.
@Somerandomegamer
@Somerandomegamer 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertsherman9975 Theistic religion often propagates harmful ideas. Something to be expected from a 2000 year old book written in a time when illness was thought to be the product of supernatural causation-- and in a time when ownership of people is wholly accepted and mandated.
@melissajones2566
@melissajones2566 4 жыл бұрын
Said this before and I will say it again NOT ALL CHRISTIANS ARE LIKE THIS. THE KARENS JUST GIVE US A BAD NAME.
@davideckwright820
@davideckwright820 4 жыл бұрын
They should be jailed and charged with child abuse.
@dan69052
@dan69052 3 жыл бұрын
the truth If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this .The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is, therefore, born with a predetermined attraction. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural expression of mammals & found commonplace in nature. Intelligent research in this area clearly explains this process. If you are truly interested in truth, based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay shows this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for yourself & others this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
@markusionescu3957
@markusionescu3957 2 жыл бұрын
@@dan69052 fake
@sindelscat9336
@sindelscat9336 2 жыл бұрын
@@markusionescu3957 nope
@luxitos2867
@luxitos2867 2 жыл бұрын
They should be prosecuted and jailed.
@haintedhouse2990
@haintedhouse2990 Жыл бұрын
@@luxitos2867 then while in prison if there's any justice they'll be gang raped.
@maargenbx1454
@maargenbx1454 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand people who think sexuality is a choice. I’m straight. I cannot be otherwise. I was born this way. Are the people who call that a choice or a lifestyle implying that they themselves are straight by choice, that they don’t feel incontrovertibly, innately straight, but could be gay if they chose? Because that’s how it sounds.
@alexisdoesstuff9091
@alexisdoesstuff9091 3 жыл бұрын
SAME
@harshit1153
@harshit1153 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for saying it yo ..idk why people think its a choice
@flow185
@flow185 3 жыл бұрын
@@harshit1153 they think this way because ( i suppose) that people arent gay until they come out. (thats sad
@gwynzynoodles2553
@gwynzynoodles2553 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and to homophobes that say that ‘they’re choosing to be gay’ is cap, because my friend always liked both genders in tv shows and books, it basically made her realize she was bi. Just because you don’t know something about yourself doesn’t mean it’s not there.
@Chrypto
@Chrypto 2 жыл бұрын
It homosexualty is a choice then so is a being straight. Ask any straight person when they chose to be straight and, in every case, they'll tell you I was born that way. Hello?!
@ProducerLare
@ProducerLare 5 жыл бұрын
Bottom line...being gay is not a “choice” or a “lifestyle”. 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈BORN THIS WAY🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈
@tekkieman
@tekkieman 5 жыл бұрын
Zero medical proof that youre born this way.
@user-eh8yz6ko3t
@user-eh8yz6ko3t 5 жыл бұрын
tekkieman You’re not “entitled” to medical proof. Answers to complex questions don’t just fall from the sky.
@theDevilsGreed
@theDevilsGreed 5 жыл бұрын
Alan Davis if you ever want goodtime let me know 💋my wife lets me have fun 😘
@theDevilsGreed
@theDevilsGreed 5 жыл бұрын
777 God's Child I’ll make you gay 💋
@theDevilsGreed
@theDevilsGreed 5 жыл бұрын
777 God's Child tell me papi👄. Love thy neighbor as thyself. I wanna so you how I love myself 💖.
@albertcastaneda262
@albertcastaneda262 4 жыл бұрын
As a gay teenager I would cry 😭 my self to sleep asking God to take my life that was tired of living
@albertcastaneda2088
@albertcastaneda2088 3 жыл бұрын
@Martin Guilfoyle yes I'm doing good now I have accepted myself as gay
@albertcastaneda2088
@albertcastaneda2088 3 жыл бұрын
@Martin Guilfoyle thanks
@harshit1153
@harshit1153 3 жыл бұрын
I sometimes do the same because Ik my parents would be so hurt once I come out to them
@dan69052
@dan69052 3 жыл бұрын
the truth If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this .The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is, therefore, born with a predetermined attraction. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural expression of mammals & found commonplace in nature. Intelligent research in this area clearly explains this process. If you are truly interested in truth, based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay shows this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for yourself & others this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
@dan69052
@dan69052 3 жыл бұрын
@@harshit1153 If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this .The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is, therefore, born with a predetermined attraction. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural expression of mammals & found commonplace in nature. Intelligent research in this area clearly explains this process. If you are truly interested in truth, based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay shows this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for yourself & others this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
@syedmammar1
@syedmammar1 4 жыл бұрын
You can't change your sexual orientation. Period.
@karimalawi923
@karimalawi923 3 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of ex gays
@angelcakes649
@angelcakes649 3 жыл бұрын
@@karimalawi923 ex gays? That’s just because they’ve been manipulated into thinking they’re straight. They are probably now struggling with internalized homophobia while still being gay. You just can’t change your sexual preference.
@KAL0001
@KAL0001 3 жыл бұрын
@@karimalawi923 why dont u try to be gay before u think its a choice
@yvxiiao
@yvxiiao 3 жыл бұрын
@@karimalawi923 ex gays? Funny. They probably were scared to get attacked by other people. I came out to my dad and he went nuts and started threatening me and then i had to pretend i turned magically straight but i still am lesbian
@cdw9244
@cdw9244 2 жыл бұрын
@joseph cristal lol then you should be the next nobel prize winner
@todshi
@todshi 5 жыл бұрын
When Gay people are faced with conversion therapy, they should remember the immortal words of Popeye the Sailor man: "I yam what I yam and that's all that I yam".
@todshi
@todshi 5 жыл бұрын
@kerri b-They don't endorse Communism in the school in my town, nor have I heard of Communism being taught as a political philosophy in any school in the greater Cincinnati area or anywhere in America for that matter. I know this because I have family who goes these school and none of them want to overthrow the government in a Communist coop. Social Study classes may teach about Communism's history, but as far as I know, none of the schools in my area are using conversion therapy tactics like 40 pounds of rocks in a backpack to turn students in Bolsheviks. And if this was the case, I'm sure that the news channels, especially FOX News, would have reported it. I think that you need to stop going to ultra-conservative and Alt-Right websites because they spread a lot of false information to the naive and the gullible...
@user-yq6hg1rh7b
@user-yq6hg1rh7b 5 жыл бұрын
kerri b my school literally had Anti-Communist propaganda in the textbooks
@kathyheitchue6069
@kathyheitchue6069 5 жыл бұрын
This Focus on the family dude is really in the closet,he has locked himself in
@kathyheitchue6069
@kathyheitchue6069 5 жыл бұрын
@Alan Davis love it!💖
@kathyheitchue6069
@kathyheitchue6069 5 жыл бұрын
@@todshi You mean FAUX news.
@user-sj5dn5xb4y
@user-sj5dn5xb4y 3 жыл бұрын
the sass in his voice “healing from homosexuality” i know this is supposed to be serious but i just JHGKGJJG
@dan69052
@dan69052 3 жыл бұрын
the truth If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this .The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is, therefore, born with a predetermined attraction. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural expression of mammals & found commonplace in nature. Intelligent research in this area clearly explains this process. If you are truly interested in truth, based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay shows this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for yourself & others this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
@user-sj5dn5xb4y
@user-sj5dn5xb4y 3 жыл бұрын
@@dan69052 i literally couldn’t have said it better myself ngl, im gay myself and hearing people justify their hate with religion is veryyy irritating
@ku_chee
@ku_chee 3 ай бұрын
LMFAOOSOFJKAOFA healing from homosexuallity 💁‍♂💅 😭😭
@californiascreaming1131
@californiascreaming1131 5 жыл бұрын
Why are we still talking about this. Leave ppl alone.
@larwheeler7324
@larwheeler7324 5 жыл бұрын
Theresa Kleven ii
@deborahhawkins3505
@deborahhawkins3505 5 жыл бұрын
We are still talking about it because it is CT is still being practiced. We have tried and failed 3 years in a row to ban it for youth in Virginia
@rain73ful
@rain73ful 5 жыл бұрын
Really! I thought this stuff went out with the 80's. Geez! Let the guy live his life the way he wants to.
@jordanallen3078
@jordanallen3078 5 жыл бұрын
Theocracy is rising in America. We are already a corporatist military state, on top of a being a police / surveillence state. Christains don't want to see it for what it is. Just remember, theocratic (authoritarian) regimes oppress and abuse ALL peoples, not just the citizens that disagree with your religion. What would Jesus do?
@jordanallen3078
@jordanallen3078 5 жыл бұрын
@777 God's Child Jesus didn't condemn homosexuals ONCE. Does your god like when you tell lies about his son?
@Lolita_Vega
@Lolita_Vega 4 жыл бұрын
I agree all things are possible with God but God is a gentleman HE would never force you to change if you dont want to. Gay or straight HE will still love us, I dont understand why then we cant just love/accept each other no matter who we are and what our preferences are.
@cronch9716
@cronch9716 4 жыл бұрын
Ana Vega Athesit here! Completely agree that you can’t force a person to change, no matter what. You just have to accept who you are and how they are.
@priestessmikokikyo77
@priestessmikokikyo77 3 жыл бұрын
Every human being on this planet is a sinner! We need Jesus Christ to forgive our sins!
@gabrielaaudreyyoung9254
@gabrielaaudreyyoung9254 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that good ol' Jesus isn't homophobic like these people!
@1c0nic_player
@1c0nic_player 2 жыл бұрын
@@priestessmikokikyo77 why is this like... appealing to people? sorry thats kinda mean to religion i just dont like christianity much
@haintedhouse2990
@haintedhouse2990 Жыл бұрын
@@priestessmikokikyo77 sounds like that's your backhanded way of saying love between two men or two women is a sin. did i get that assumption correct?
@avesraggiana
@avesraggiana 5 жыл бұрын
If religion can steer you away from homosexuality, then I prefer to to steer myself away from religion.
@adamtrimmer4708
@adamtrimmer4708 5 жыл бұрын
@cobainzlady ah, this comment is a lot less friendly than the other ones.
@jonathanfortunato7847
@jonathanfortunato7847 5 жыл бұрын
@cobainzlady A Christian homophobic extremist with a photo of Kurt Cobain ... I almost laugh
@gameshowguy2000
@gameshowguy2000 4 жыл бұрын
cobainzlady, maybe you need to understand why your idol ended up taking his own life... *his feelings were hurt*, just like the many LGBT teens who've taken their *own* lives!
@Skellyy
@Skellyy 4 жыл бұрын
cobainzlady all i want to say is freedom of religion he can choose
@microwraptor4774
@microwraptor4774 4 жыл бұрын
cobainzlady lol you really responded to a ton of comments on this video! get a life
@brianmcintyre6132
@brianmcintyre6132 5 жыл бұрын
Is there a christian conversion therapy?
@BONNYRIGG
@BONNYRIGG 5 жыл бұрын
Why, yes there is....it's called critical thinking.
@travisgrant5608
@travisgrant5608 5 жыл бұрын
Brian ... BRILLIANT thank you! 👍😉
@jamescook4289
@jamescook4289 5 жыл бұрын
It's called reading your Bible, not what your preacher tells you.
@InterestsMayVary2234
@InterestsMayVary2234 5 жыл бұрын
@Scrooge McGruel He said "being gay". Clearly he's talking about being a homosexual, not about having sex. Being gay isn't a choice.
@InterestsMayVary2234
@InterestsMayVary2234 5 жыл бұрын
@Bear-Knuckles Yes, if you think there's something wrong with what I said, I would agree you have comprehension issues.
@streamnotbythemoonbygot7850
@streamnotbythemoonbygot7850 5 жыл бұрын
I feel religion can sometimes bring people and family apart. I am a closeted transgender male and I hate how my parents and brother talk about the LGBT+ community. Being homosexual is completely okay and there is nothing wrong with it.
@DeliriousViewer
@DeliriousViewer 2 жыл бұрын
So how you doing in life rn?
@anotherday337
@anotherday337 5 жыл бұрын
the way he said "healing homosexuality" lol
@adamtrimmer4708
@adamtrimmer4708 5 жыл бұрын
YO - that was a moment lol
@jameshammond680
@jameshammond680 4 жыл бұрын
So, as a survivor of conversion therapy, i am now working (after a near 15 year recovery period) to change the law in my state (Virginia). My "therapy", which was done through a church which still does it, caused me to be so suicidal that I resorted to taking drugs to get though the sessions. A lifelong addiction problem has ensued; thankfully finally in recovery from that. But in the end I am still a Christian - I actually believe it is the typical evangelical who has been deceived on the whole issue. They almost succeeded in me losing my faith and that is the ultimate result of conversion therapy: separation from normal human relationships and ultimately separation from a relationship with God. According to the Bible all good work bears fruit and a tree will be known by it's fruit. The fruit of conversion therapy is emotional, psychological, and spiritual devastation that can result in death. It is NOT of God in any way.
@hearthebellsring3990
@hearthebellsring3990 3 жыл бұрын
o wow
@haintedhouse2990
@haintedhouse2990 Жыл бұрын
powerful stuff there bro. i'm glad you're doing well now. i don't know if i could continue with Christianity after such an experience. more people have perished in the name of religion for too long.
@Malmcass
@Malmcass 4 жыл бұрын
These people are crazy... You can’t decide if you’re gay/lesbian or not!
@dan69052
@dan69052 3 жыл бұрын
the truth If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this .The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is, therefore, born with a predetermined attraction. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural expression of mammals & found commonplace in nature. Intelligent research in this area clearly explains this process. If you are truly interested in truth, based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay shows this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for yourself & others this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
@1kxanax349
@1kxanax349 3 жыл бұрын
The bible doesnt condemn homosexuality. The verse about men lying with men as a woman has been translated from a word that meant boy moslesting.
@samofrabat
@samofrabat Жыл бұрын
Yes it does condemn it, and vehemently, and all religions do. It is irrational and philhi
@chuc98
@chuc98 5 жыл бұрын
Evangelicals in general seem to have a 5th grade level of understanding with the Bible. Very surface level skimming, not taking into account the time and place of when the literature was written. Not taking into account how poorly translated the Bible is. They ignore the other 600+ laws in the Old Testament. They ignore the Great Commandment in the New Testament. Their level of judgement is totally hypocritical.
@dan69052
@dan69052 3 жыл бұрын
the truth If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this .The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is, therefore, born with a predetermined attraction. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural expression of mammals & found commonplace in nature. Intelligent research in this area clearly explains this process. If you are truly interested in truth, based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay shows this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for yourself & others this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
@chuc98
@chuc98 3 жыл бұрын
@@dan69052 this extensive of a reply to a post from TWO YEARS ago deserves to be its own comment. Why bury it as a reply to an existing comment?
@lifetobelived9102
@lifetobelived9102 5 жыл бұрын
The other day I picked up my daughter's college back pack. It was so heavy I thought I would check the weight. it was 20 pounds. I can't imagine carrying 40 pounds of rocks every day. When people say that being gay is a sin and from the devil I have to wonder if maybe the people who are having a 15 year old girl carry 40 pounds of rock every day that could have potentially damaged her back might actually be the one that are the evil people.
@moxymarie7243
@moxymarie7243 4 жыл бұрын
Cobain’s lady? As in Kurt Cobain?
@martinalbert1910
@martinalbert1910 5 жыл бұрын
700,000? Crazy. Leave people alone.
@69eddieD
@69eddieD 5 жыл бұрын
@cobainzlady It looks like you're quite proud of being depraved. degenerate ,and enslaved; at least it looks that way to sane people.
@adamtrimmer4708
@adamtrimmer4708 5 жыл бұрын
@cobainzlady wow you're all over these comments on this aren't you? lol - for the 350,000 that experienced this as teenagers, they didn't really get a choice. And I want you to be very aware of what you just did, because it's a tactic that is used in conversion therapy. You just equated being gay to being depraved, degenerate, unhappy, and enslaved. That's quite a logical jump. For example, if someone who is gay has been shamed their whole life, and you come up to them and assign the word degenerate to their sexuality, what's happening is that you are encouaraging them to embrace shame. You're also affiliating unhappiness with being gay, rather than with the ostracism and judgment people face FOR being gay. So, what you're actually doing is you're trying to take someone who is vulnerable and turn them into the monster, and after being confronted with that logic, especially as a teenager, my gosh is it really a surprise that so many people try to go through these programs? Could you imagine what it's like to wake up and think of yourself as a monster or a disease every day? The road to self-acceptance is extremely difficult for the lgbtq community members who grow up around this kind of talk, because not only do you have to start seeing the world differently, but you have to unassign the shame that you've been taught to place on yourself from your thought processes, and you can turn it into embracing yourself for the first time, unconditionally. It wastes so much time in a lot of people's lives, a staunch juxtaposition from so many members of the lgbtq community that come out to love and acceptance on day one. Scrolling through the rest of these comments now...I'm sure I'll see something else that you've interjected along the line.
@rose-a-bleu4281
@rose-a-bleu4281 5 жыл бұрын
cobainzlady you say that their “depraved, degenerate and enslaved and unhappy”...pretty sure thats what there life is like AFTER they go into “therapy”
@gameshowguy2000
@gameshowguy2000 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe they don't *want* the therapy. They're unhappy, but the therapy will make them even *more* unhappy, because that results in *more* pain and suffering, which is what they don't want.
@cerbzzz7147
@cerbzzz7147 3 жыл бұрын
@cobainzlady damn you want people to get shocked and abused even when its not their choice
@elizaheathen
@elizaheathen 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see Boy Erased
@adamtrimmer4708
@adamtrimmer4708 5 жыл бұрын
IT IS SUCH A POWERFUL MOVIE
@manhater799
@manhater799 5 жыл бұрын
I'm watching it right now.
@ChrisStynen
@ChrisStynen 5 жыл бұрын
11:38 Easy solution-- switch churches! Join a church that loves everybody. Yes, even your gay son. You can go on loving God and your son... COMPLETELY. Easy. Ta da.
@dekishajones282
@dekishajones282 3 жыл бұрын
cobainzlady you can love your family without believing in an imaginary friend
@corncob5516
@corncob5516 3 жыл бұрын
exactly. my lutheran church is so supporting
@saikikusuo7937
@saikikusuo7937 3 жыл бұрын
If you really do care about your religion then you can switch. If you don't, you can always just quit all together.
@uncleschwifty8116
@uncleschwifty8116 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a man. I wasn't taught to like both men and women, i was born this way.
@dan69052
@dan69052 3 жыл бұрын
the truth If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this .The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is, therefore, born with a predetermined attraction. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural expression of mammals & found commonplace in nature. Intelligent research in this area clearly explains this process. If you are truly interested in truth, based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay shows this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for yourself & others this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
@junobjorndal7876
@junobjorndal7876 3 жыл бұрын
when she said a man shall never lay with another man. before 1939 it said a man shall never lay with a boy
@dan69052
@dan69052 3 жыл бұрын
the truth If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this .The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is, therefore, born with a predetermined attraction. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural expression of mammals & found commonplace in nature. Intelligent research in this area clearly explains this process. If you are truly interested in truth, based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay shows this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for yourself & others this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
@starryvince402
@starryvince402 4 жыл бұрын
In the bible, it prohibited pedophilia, not homosexual tendencies. It says love everybody no matter what.
@aronyacob2065
@aronyacob2065 4 жыл бұрын
Adam and eve, a man should no lie with another man as he does with a women, let every man move out with his women not man, bible also says to keep ur body holy so taking a penis up ur bum as a dude is not holy.
@AsherJohnson
@AsherJohnson 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@victoriaisastar.9105
@victoriaisastar.9105 4 жыл бұрын
Aron yacob that’s literally the exact verse that has also been translated into man shall not sleep with boy meaning pedophilia also it is quite unholy to care so much about what someone else does in their bedroom but go off ig
@AsherJohnson
@AsherJohnson 4 жыл бұрын
Ok boomer
@esmeesilverman9856
@esmeesilverman9856 4 жыл бұрын
All I'm gonna say is live your life right now instead of being afraid of the afterlife, it's the only one you know you have
@CapnBlood
@CapnBlood 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Pence approved this message.
@luisguillen7005
@luisguillen7005 5 жыл бұрын
Where do you think he goes to find young men?
@corncob5516
@corncob5516 3 жыл бұрын
Luis Guillen SJAHSHJAJAHAHAJA
@gfolgore80
@gfolgore80 2 жыл бұрын
Are we really talking about homosexuality as a problem in 2021? I thought middle-age ended about 500 years ago.
@samofrabat
@samofrabat Жыл бұрын
Most ppl in the world are against |_9bt. Most civilization and people throughout the times were against hmsxlty. It has been, it is, it will always be. Facts of life. No amount of politics or narrative, will change the very fact of the irrationality of hmsxlty
@donnasweeney8019
@donnasweeney8019 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story bravely.
@lunalefler1713
@lunalefler1713 4 жыл бұрын
No
@adamtrimmer4708
@adamtrimmer4708 4 жыл бұрын
thank you
@bhabbharbie5699
@bhabbharbie5699 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus never said that homosexuality is a sin
@Ssylphie
@Ssylphie 3 жыл бұрын
Neither does the Bible; the line “man shall not lay with man” is actually about pedophilia but was most likely mistranslated to push homophobic agendas by the church.
@samofrabat
@samofrabat Жыл бұрын
Yes he did, all religions vehemently condemn hmsxlty. No way around it. The problem is the subculture that brainwashed victims that their behavior is sane. It is irrational
@bhabbharbie5699
@bhabbharbie5699 Жыл бұрын
@@samofrabat give us proof:// other than the bible
@bhabbharbie5699
@bhabbharbie5699 Жыл бұрын
@@samofrabat bro move on, I commented this like 2 years agoD:
@samofrabat
@samofrabat Жыл бұрын
@@Ssylphie Nope.....it's about precisely hmsxlty.
@benmelman9505
@benmelman9505 3 жыл бұрын
You can spew all the anti-gay rhetoric you want, but when Judgment Day finally comes (if it ever does), you likely will not escape God's wrath. We all sin. I don't loathe you for your adultery. Why do you loathe me for being bi?
@dan69052
@dan69052 3 жыл бұрын
the truthIf you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this .The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is, therefore, born with a predetermined attraction. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural expression of mammals & found commonplace in nature. Intelligent research in this area clearly explains this process. If you are truly interested in truth, based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay shows this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for yourself & others this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
@AldricKalylJoshenVLacro
@AldricKalylJoshenVLacro 2 жыл бұрын
"Before you echo Amen in your home and house of worship, think and remember a child is listening." - Mary Griffith
@Scotter1971
@Scotter1971 5 жыл бұрын
I don't want to spend eternity in the same place as these good Christians. Satan should send them thank-you notes for helping him recruit.
@Scotter1971
@Scotter1971 5 жыл бұрын
@cobainzlady Satan owes you a thank you too.
@MoneyStrategiesSOULutions
@MoneyStrategiesSOULutions 5 жыл бұрын
haha, good one!
@danielj.nickolas17
@danielj.nickolas17 5 жыл бұрын
@cobainzlady Lol. Okay, your just a troll, right? There is no way you're really Christian.
@Lolita_Vega
@Lolita_Vega 4 жыл бұрын
These Christias are not reflecting God s character. God loves us just the way we are.
@boujiebarbie3198
@boujiebarbie3198 3 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand how people can be so committed to a God they never saw and they'll likely never see, while dismissing those they see every day. It is more shocking when it is their children.
@steenystuff1075
@steenystuff1075 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus told me, "They do not understand. The only important thing is that they love one another." It says plainly in the Bible that we are NOT to be converted to this worlds way of thinking but to be transformed by the renewing of our minds. Jesus died to PAY for our sin. Why do people not understand that this means we are FREE to be ourselves? He said, "If the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed." Love does no harm to a neighbour. Homosexual or otherwise. Jesus died to SAVE people, not to condemn them. Established Christianity is wrong in its doctrinal thinking.
@stevejohnson1321
@stevejohnson1321 5 жыл бұрын
Tactics like shock therapy and "aesthetic realism" have a long history of being unsuccessful. Much better you play the hand you're dealt, and be the best person you can.
@dannyboy020
@dannyboy020 2 жыл бұрын
I laugh when homophobes say being gay is a choice
@justaregulardumbass
@justaregulardumbass 2 жыл бұрын
It is tho
@samofrabat
@samofrabat Жыл бұрын
It is a choice. Conversion therapy is a human right. How does that affect the rest ? It's nobody's business. Why would someone in their right mind be against someone' else freedom to be who they are. People should stand up for their rights if it becomes illegal. If one thinks that will affect them somehow, then that it means it ain't innate, it's socially constructed/influenced for them
@m.f.5739
@m.f.5739 6 ай бұрын
Very few say this, mostly this statement is outdated. Attraction is not chosen or implemented. But how you deal with it is 100% a choice. You actively choose to act on these desires or don't. This is what most mean with "choice".
@Ash-ey3ov
@Ash-ey3ov 3 жыл бұрын
"Man shall not sleep with boy" not "Man should not sleep with man"
@os_boy8745
@os_boy8745 5 жыл бұрын
God Damn it, its 2018... why is this still a thing... I need to distract myself.
@Jkeyol04xy
@Jkeyol04xy 3 жыл бұрын
2021 and still going strong... in fact, I might even say stronger
@os_boy8745
@os_boy8745 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jkeyol04xy Exodus International shut down though, right?
@eeeeggnog._.
@eeeeggnog._. 4 жыл бұрын
Sickening, that poor girl was sent to the very town I live in... Its hard to believe there could be people right around me going through this
@samofrabat
@samofrabat Жыл бұрын
It is psycho-social, it ain't innate
@intransition8548
@intransition8548 4 жыл бұрын
Go watch: "Gay cure" therapist comes out. ALSO: church is not God, and no mother should be forced to push away her son, for his difference.
@mrmadness2699
@mrmadness2699 5 жыл бұрын
Shame on CBS for giving focus on the family airtime @ 9:29
@SirScrubBuns
@SirScrubBuns 3 жыл бұрын
Religion is no reason to convince your child that they are something they’re not. You can believe whatever You can be whatever No one is gonna care Nothing is gonna happen.
@robertsherman9975
@robertsherman9975 4 жыл бұрын
It was nice to hear acknowledgements of the wrongs committed. I can only imagine the guilt the Mother of the young man carries. I’m glad they have a relationship, they appeared to be happy and at peace. I’ll never understand why people feel the need to control another person, or change who that person is, physically, mentally or sexually. If a person has the need/desire to control/change another person, it’s clear they have issues within they need to attend to.
@demh7823
@demh7823 3 жыл бұрын
Why would God change you when it was He who created you?
@aralyng9131
@aralyng9131 3 жыл бұрын
my mom just told me shes homphobic and i asked her"would you kick me out if i changed my pronouns?" she didnt respond:(
@1c0nic_player
@1c0nic_player 2 жыл бұрын
that sucks. u got an update since then?
@mango2005
@mango2005 9 ай бұрын
Homosexuality has always existed, even before it was legal. So the argument of the Religious Right that its learned behaviour doesn't ring true.
@anthonynotarnicola1272
@anthonynotarnicola1272 3 жыл бұрын
This is so gross.
@moxxvr968
@moxxvr968 4 жыл бұрын
What kind of mom is that
@lyn5756
@lyn5756 3 жыл бұрын
A bad one for sure...
@matheusmacedo6531
@matheusmacedo6531 3 жыл бұрын
A brainwashed one I dont think shes mean, but the tradional values did this to her
@kimakotrotman6860
@kimakotrotman6860 3 жыл бұрын
She tried her best.
@JoanBette
@JoanBette 5 жыл бұрын
If that is what the families religious beliefs are, so be it, however, as a gay man, I know it was not my choice and that I was born gay. Let this young man find his own way without hoisting religion on him and condemning him for his sexuality. Love him as he is and accept him as he is and he will be OK. Condemn him and ostracize him and he will end up broken and hating himself forever.
@skyary9771
@skyary9771 Жыл бұрын
The mom reminds me of my mom when I came out to her. I had to talk to a pastor, start homeschool, my mom talked to me everyday asking if I had a crush on a guy so I could stray away from him, And she recently tried to make me go to conversion therapy. Which didn't work. Parents please just teach your kids about the loving God we all know and Love. Not the conservative ideal god..
@mz6367
@mz6367 Жыл бұрын
I’m gay and I want to live a normal life so bad I wish If people would be more nicer to us we’ve already gone through so many bad stuff we love everyone because we know how it feels to be hated by everyone literally everyone even god himself I’m not crying you’re 😢
@person4765
@person4765 2 жыл бұрын
They're passages in the bible that condone slavery, Objectify women And directly condradict other passages. If we've rejected those, then why not reject what the book says about homosexuality? Or why not reject the book entirely?
@deolihp
@deolihp 7 ай бұрын
Yes reject that crazy book
@may-do3fi
@may-do3fi 3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna show this video to my homophobic father, I’m not gay but I really want him to know that gay people are people too
@cindyasters
@cindyasters 5 жыл бұрын
Gay love hurts no one.
@mr.meowgi4807
@mr.meowgi4807 5 жыл бұрын
@cobainzlady lol wow. It's okay to be gay, man - you don't have to fight it anymore.
@DaveBalog99
@DaveBalog99 5 жыл бұрын
Jane, you bright a false equivalency to you intro. "Is homosexuality a choice?" No. And the story reflected that. Please apologize.
@rose-a-bleu4281
@rose-a-bleu4281 5 жыл бұрын
cobainzlady calling someone a pig? Wow how Christian of you.
@jackm1335
@jackm1335 4 жыл бұрын
cobainzlady Jesus Christ take a xanny... or twelve
@jackm1335
@jackm1335 4 жыл бұрын
cobainzlady also it isn’t a choice to feel sexual attraction to people it’s completely hormonal so calm tf down
@CyprusHot
@CyprusHot 3 жыл бұрын
God bless homosexuals. It’s not a sin. Think about it. God knows about the future and what a big issue it would be and Jesus never mentioned it. Not once. God isn’t wrong. The homophobic people are.
@Iloveyvonne
@Iloveyvonne 3 жыл бұрын
People that say man shall not lay with another man is in the Bible they’re lying people have changed the Bible around so many times being gay isn’t a choice just like being straight isn’t a choice
@Iloveyvonne
@Iloveyvonne 3 жыл бұрын
@long furby that’s fake...people always would change the Bible which makes it harder for people to find what the real book what’s the book ‘god wrote’.
@samofrabat
@samofrabat Жыл бұрын
It is a choice, it's psycho-social
@SouthFLppg
@SouthFLppg 5 жыл бұрын
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." - Edward Gibbon.
@johnperrigo6474
@johnperrigo6474 5 жыл бұрын
Brave of him to be profiled in this way. Kudos to you. Best wishes for your future.
@adamtrimmer4708
@adamtrimmer4708 5 жыл бұрын
@TheMormonSorceress
@TheMormonSorceress 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus hung out with publicans and Harlots a lot. I'm sure there were many gays and lesbians among them that Jesus loved with all his heart. If my child ever came out of the closet I probably be surprised at first but in the end I'd thell them that what ever you choose heavenly Father and Jesus will always love him and so will I.
@jez507
@jez507 4 жыл бұрын
It’s honestly a shame that conversion therapy exists ;(
@samofrabat
@samofrabat Жыл бұрын
Conversion therapy is a human right. How does that affect the rest ? It's nobody's business. Why would someone in their right mind be against someone' else freedom to be who they are. People should stand up for their rights if it becomes illegal. If one thinks that will affect them somehow, then that it means it ain't innate, it's socially constructed/influenced for them
@edwinbertilsson7722
@edwinbertilsson7722 4 жыл бұрын
Love is not about gender, it's about people.
@Eersian
@Eersian 2 жыл бұрын
isn't exodus the book about slavery?
@kimsteinke713
@kimsteinke713 Жыл бұрын
Irony👍☝️🤔🌈🙏
@Rick_12o7
@Rick_12o7 3 жыл бұрын
I’m scared my grandma will send me to conversation therapy
@daili12
@daili12 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you'll be okay🙂
@jacquelynpowell7964
@jacquelynpowell7964 2 жыл бұрын
Can you hold on until you're 18 or did you tell her you're gay already?
@Rick_12o7
@Rick_12o7 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacquelynpowell7964 nah
@WhereOceansMeeet
@WhereOceansMeeet 5 жыл бұрын
Being any sexuality or gender is great. We are who we are. Embrace it. If people don't love you for who you are, they don't deserve to be in your life. Trust in people, not unproven Gods.
@seantwyman9340
@seantwyman9340 Жыл бұрын
That’s why I’m an atheist
@fouroverseven7799
@fouroverseven7799 5 жыл бұрын
I think a person's sexual preference can change, but it's not something you can shape. And it's certainly not something conversion therapy can "fix."
@WillieManga
@WillieManga Жыл бұрын
Though I beleive in the possibility of God, I do not beleive in interpretations of the Bible that allows stuff like this to happen.
@helinski7198
@helinski7198 3 жыл бұрын
if you arent ready to support your kid however they choose to live their lives. dont. have. kids.
@bug5549
@bug5549 4 жыл бұрын
There are people out there that dont agree with lgbt peoples "ideals", but still say they love them. Those peoples "ideals" are who they are. Not agreeing with who someone is, is basically the definition of hating someone.
@orlandobabe
@orlandobabe 4 жыл бұрын
Places like these should be burned down.
@Skellyy
@Skellyy 4 жыл бұрын
orlandobabe basically labor camps but somehow legal
@isochronously
@isochronously 4 жыл бұрын
also, the ‘man shall not lie with man’ phrase is not correct and out of context. it comes from ‘man shall not lie with boy’ wich refers to p3d0ph3l1a, not homosexuality. it was lost in translation.
@Rockamolie
@Rockamolie 5 жыл бұрын
What about people who have UNWANTED same-sex attraction and go to sane conversion therapy groups to get the help they WANT???
@bluecannibaleyes
@bluecannibaleyes 5 жыл бұрын
The LGBT cult doesn’t want to allow that, they want you to be gay.
@Jessiepmore
@Jessiepmore 4 жыл бұрын
It’s legal for adults to go through conversation therapy in every state. It’s only illegal to put a minor through conversion therapy in 18 states (32 states have no law against it).
@jackm1335
@jackm1335 4 жыл бұрын
Rock amolie we’re just tryna ban it for minors relax
@funajgamer6311
@funajgamer6311 4 жыл бұрын
Rock amolie k believe that’s ok but there need to be standards to make sure it’s safe and not harmful. Like electro shock and things that are proven to be harmful and never aloud for minors. I’m proud and gay but it is a free country
@gameshowguy2000
@gameshowguy2000 4 жыл бұрын
There *are* no sane therapy groups. They are *all* insane.
@sunner108
@sunner108 5 жыл бұрын
It's funny when straight people talk about homosexuality being a choice, implying that they themselves also actively chose to NOT be gay. Just ask any person who's ever been in love, did you deliberately choose to fall in love with that person, or did it just happen? I suspect the answer would always be the latter. I don't know why anyone would assume that it would be any different for gay people.
@normanspurgeon5324
@normanspurgeon5324 5 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to hear something from those who have "succeeded" in converting. Can it be done? They could tell us.
@erenluin8122
@erenluin8122 5 жыл бұрын
Norman Spurgeon those people claiming to be converted are just self hating ones.they are just suppressing themselves because of their religious beliefs. We all know that. You can convert anyone
@adamtrimmer4708
@adamtrimmer4708 5 жыл бұрын
Oh gosh. that gets complicated. For someone who adamantly believes in conversion therapy (aka "ex-gays"), they will preach all day long that they have "changed," but what ends up happening is families get ripped apart. I said something in a local interview that is really important to think about. Not only is conversion therapy wrecking families, but it's also creating families to be wrecked down the line. And I don't just speak in hypotheticals. Please check out truthwinsout.org, and you will see testimonies of conversion therapy survivors and spouses of former ex-gays share their stories.
@joycelyneaddo1355
@joycelyneaddo1355 4 жыл бұрын
bluecannibaleyes there is no such thing as an “ex gay” you were just figuring yourself out and happened to not be gay as a result. You are the reason conversion therapy exists because people believe it’s something that can be changed. If you asked a straight person to be gay, they wouldnt be able to do it because its not a choice one makes
@joycelyneaddo1355
@joycelyneaddo1355 4 жыл бұрын
cobainzlady conversion therapy doesnt work. Most of those people are faking it to get out
@marylouleeman
@marylouleeman 5 жыл бұрын
I have seen it across the board. I believe it's a matter of opinion and experience. Acceptance, submission.
@user-py7rl9ev6l
@user-py7rl9ev6l 3 жыл бұрын
I wish i wasn't lesbian I'd rather be straight i love god so much i feel like he accepts me but some days like right now i feel so bad about it
@anticorncob6
@anticorncob6 2 жыл бұрын
God isn't real. You are fine just the way you are. There is nothing wrong with being a lesbian.
@aaronmichaels807
@aaronmichaels807 5 жыл бұрын
Sexuality is so primal, it is a primal instinct we have..
@MiamiPush2theLimit
@MiamiPush2theLimit 5 жыл бұрын
how would you even know if a 10 yr old is gay?
@iscarson9922
@iscarson9922 3 жыл бұрын
The original translation of the bible did not have a word for homosexuality.
@user-yq6hg1rh7b
@user-yq6hg1rh7b 5 жыл бұрын
Why do people give so much effort to hate eachother? It's just not worth it in my eyes.
@samofrabat
@samofrabat Жыл бұрын
because 9ay ppl try to force their twisted view on the normal population. The problem is the sub-culture that confuses the young people. It ain't innate, it's learned. WTF do young ppl know about sxlty, they get affected. There two sxl or9ans ...each of which is meant for the other. There is no other third sxl organ for the same sx , is there ?
@user-yq6hg1rh7b
@user-yq6hg1rh7b Жыл бұрын
@Son Of Rabat do you have scientific proof it's learned?
@user-yq6hg1rh7b
@user-yq6hg1rh7b Жыл бұрын
@@samofrabatwhy are you saying the word gay? Do you think God himself is gonna come down and smite you? Lmao
@samofrabat
@samofrabat Жыл бұрын
@@user-yq6hg1rh7b don't crash now, an agno-atheist
@samofrabat
@samofrabat Жыл бұрын
@@user-yq6hg1rh7b Psychologists have known that it's psycho-social for long time. But politics highjacked free speech and rigorous science communication. In psychology, social influence and social contagion is a well understood.
@natividadzavala94
@natividadzavala94 5 жыл бұрын
I love how everyone cite the old testament, never the new, have they read what Jesus said? And the man she is interviewing, he is gay, just look at the way he talks and behaves, and that mother, pleas, is your child love him no matter what.
@MIKECNW
@MIKECNW 4 жыл бұрын
Considering Alex now lives in Portland, wonder has she really made piece with her family?
@robertsherman9975
@robertsherman9975 4 жыл бұрын
MIKECNW I have thought about that as well. My hope is yes, however my gut instinct says no. Truly sad. The parents should admit their mistake, and ask for forgiveness. Only if that’s how they feel in their hearts. Otherwise a healthy relationship between couldn’t be obtained.
@deolihp
@deolihp 7 ай бұрын
I’m glad the pastor accepted his mistake and has changed his ways
@erenluin8122
@erenluin8122 5 жыл бұрын
Conversion therapy for Christians would be wonderful.
@gloriaval1944
@gloriaval1944 4 жыл бұрын
why... just... why... 😢
@snatchedwig8777
@snatchedwig8777 4 жыл бұрын
😭☹
@southernpennsyrailfan8579
@southernpennsyrailfan8579 3 жыл бұрын
this is why I dont believe in christianity anymore
@caspaabriel4794
@caspaabriel4794 2 жыл бұрын
16 / 02 / 2022 New Zealand’s Parliament has near-unanimously passed a legislation that bans practices intended to forcibly change a person’s sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression, known as conversion therapy. Kind Regards
@duanerichardsii9307
@duanerichardsii9307 5 жыл бұрын
This narration is so shady and I’m here for it
@rr7firefly
@rr7firefly 5 жыл бұрын
If Christians followed the Bible literally (with all its proscriptions) they would not eat pork, would not eat lobster or crab, would not eat cheeseburgers, would not get remarried after divorce, would not do any physical work on Saturday, would not gossip, would not wear fabric blends (Leviticus 19 : 19 reads: “You shall not wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together.”) Obviously they do not accept the entire Bible as the word of God or they would not be deciding what parts to obey and what parts to throw out. If Christians actually followed Christ's message they would "turn the other cheek" when struck, they would give away their belongings to the poor. So many things in the Bible are either selectively cited or else interpreted to mean what people want them to say. There are many good people who follow a Christian religion and I do not doubt their sincere concern to live a good life. I think that they got bogged down in the literal translations. Most of us want to do the right thing in all circumstances but there are also many good people without a religion or who belong to a non-Western religion and they must be respected as well. I remember the "crisis" I encountered when several close friends told me they were atheists. At the time I could not reconcile how anyone not believing in God could have strong ethical principles (benevolent to the extreme). Now I see that this world is not the province of any particular philosophy, religion or even country. Having an open mind can help us all to form important alliances to solve many problems. A bumper sticker I saw recently said it all: GOD BLESSES EVERYONE (not just Americans).
@cliffordmoody648
@cliffordmoody648 5 жыл бұрын
Be you people no one can change ... You are you no one else okay
@metalixtheunknown9677
@metalixtheunknown9677 3 жыл бұрын
God loves everyone no matter if they are straight or not, god will accept you for how you are.
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