Cub Cadet XT2 - Weak Reverse Quick Fix

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Жыл бұрын

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Sometimes these Hydrostatic Transmissions can develop air in them, even on these Residential units that (normally) don't require fluid replacement.
Shown in the video are Cub Cadet XT1 and XT2 riding lawnmowers that I am in the process of performing a full spring service on.
The XT2 has a Tuff Torq K46DM transmission, and my customer complained that the reverse seemed a bit weak. Sure enough, when I picked it up, it wouldn't even back into my trailer.
Today I'll be showing you how to "purge" the air out of these hydrostatic transmissions, and this can be done regardless of whether you've changed the fluid in them or not.
I've found on numerous occasions that doing this simple and quick purge significantly increases how the transmissions drive up an incline in reverse.
These residential units don't have External Oil Reservoirs, and as long as they're not leaking, generally don't need fluid added.
However, Tuff Torq does recommend you replace the hydrostatic transmission fluid on the K46DM in the 1st 50 Hours, and every 200 Hours under extreme operating conditions. This would include towing heavy loads, commercial use, etc...
Note: To drain and change the hydrostatic transmission fluid on these residential riding mowers, the transmission usually needs to be removed from the riding mower.
Even checking the fluid level on these can be difficult, due to the placement of the fluid fill cap on the hydrostatic transmission (shown in the video).
Tuff-Torq K46DM Maintenance Instructions: www.tufftorq.com/tuff-torq-k4...
Hydro-Gear Transmission Purging Video (on incline): • Hydro-Gear Pump & Whee...
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@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

One thing I didn't mention in the video, and also something easy to check: Inspect the drive lever on the transmission (this is what the pedal rod hooks up to) as it could have a large build up of dried grass behind it, preventing it from pushing back far enough to engage the reverse drive! However, sometimes these Hydrostatic Transmissions can develop air in them, even on these Residential units that (normally) don't require fluid replacement. Shown in the video are Cub Cadet XT1 and XT2 riding lawnmowers that I am in the process of performing a full spring service on. The XT2 has a Tuff Torq K46DM transmission, and my customer complained that the reverse seemed a bit weak. Sure enough, when I picked it up, it wouldn't even back into my trailer. Today I'll be showing you how to "purge" the air out of these hydrostatic transmissions, and this can be done regardless of whether you've changed the fluid in them or not. I've found on numerous occasions that doing this simple and quick purge significantly increases how the transmissions drive up an incline in reverse. These residential units don't have External Oil Reservoirs, and as long as they're not leaking, generally don't need fluid added. However, Tuff Torq does recommend you replace the hydrostatic transmission fluid on the K46DM in the 1st 50 Hours, and every 200 Hours under extreme operating conditions. This would include towing heavy loads, commercial use, etc... Note: To drain and change the hydrostatic transmission fluid on these residential riding mowers, the transmission usually needs to be removed from the riding mower. Even checking the fluid level on these can be difficult, due to the placement of the fluid fill cap on the hydrostatic transmission (shown in the video). Tuff-Torq K46DM Maintenance Instructions: www.tufftorq.com/tuff-torq-k46-oil-maintenance/ Hydro-Gear Transmission Purging Video (on incline): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aqlkg5SC2ZzDiI0.html

@clemkadiddlehopper2706 5 ай бұрын

Takes just a few minutes (for me, at least) to blow out all the grass, dirt, etc that you mentioned above. I have a curved tip on my air hose nozzle and this does it just fine. I was surprized as how quickly this can be done, because I am an EXPERT of turning a job that should take only 10 minutes or so to complete but usually turns out to take 1 & 1/2 hours to finish!

@henrypalin1109 27 күн бұрын

Very good video. Got to the point without endless babble.

@BeingRomans829ed 23 күн бұрын

Right! I hate it when they blab and blab and flapjaw and seem to be trying to get you to watch the video longer instead of getting to the point.

@roguebull3548 8 ай бұрын

HA this worked after my local shop told me I would likely need a new transmission. They are thieves and ignorant. My unit only has 68 hours on it. Thank you Sir!

@s7a2g65 10 ай бұрын

Have to give you Kudos... I was on the verge of paying a shop to replace my drive belt, thinking my CC was in need of it due to slow reverse and poor hydro response. I skeptically went and jacked my mower up, ran it and ran the trans. All the while KNOWING your vid was BS. While in the air, the wheels would miss-spin. Confirming in my mind you were BS. Once I got it back on the ground, it functioned like new. THANK YOU for the 300 price tag you saved me on some drunk red neck doing the same thing! For anyone reading this: Can't speak for all y'all's situation, but for me this "bleeding" technique worked FANTASTICALLY!

@ashimaearthsky Күн бұрын

OMG THANK YOU! I will never buy a cub cadet again, my first brand new mower in 30 years. So many issues @ 48 hours!!! This fixed my slow reverse!!! I am so grateful!!! My battery died after the first year. Never in my life have I had a battery die over winter. Any suggestions so this doesn't happen every year????

@sargeast1629 9 ай бұрын

Kudos! Somebody who FINALLY knows what they are doing! Note to others, the first time I did this it had no effect at first. I went ahead and began mowing my 2 acres, and about halfway to though my mow, reverse began operating normally.

@KirstenFickas 8 күн бұрын

Thank you that worked perfectly Can't believe it was that easy

@philliphall5198 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for not dragging it out because time is important to me the most

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Phillip!

@longislandbiker7 Жыл бұрын

You have no idea how badly i needed to see this video, my reverse has been horrible for at least a year and a half and searching the internet and Facebook pages have gotten me nowhere. I will be purging the air from my machine and see what happens. Thank you!!!!!

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Good luck, this fixed both the XT2 and my father purged the XT1 that I showed and they both had an increase in reverse power.

@waynestefinashen239 Жыл бұрын

Yep i did the XT1 and it would not climb a raised section of our lawn in reverse until i did what Jake showed and climbs up like nothing now.

@longislandbiker7 Жыл бұрын

@@EliminatorPerformance i just got done doing this to my mower and it did help but i have a 1¾" lip at the top of my ramp going into my shed that it still struggles with. So it's not back to the way it once was unfortunately. My transmission is non serviceable so that's also fun lol. Thank you for the tip it was much appreciated!

@waynestefinashen239 Жыл бұрын

@@longislandbiker7 I would try it again: parking brake off, trans lever pulled out, forward and reverse 5 to 10 seconds each 5 times engine at full rpm.

@longislandbiker7 Жыл бұрын

@@waynestefinashen239 forgot to update, disregard my last comment. Apparently my tires weren't 100% inflated. Once i inflated them to the proper psi it worked! I do plan on replacing the fluid in my transmission at the end of the season... it doesn't sit right with me that my transmission is non serviceable.

@808airgunsbackyardaz6 Жыл бұрын

Just stopped by to support your channel. You have saved my lawn tractor more then once.

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks 808!

@Tonedog88 9 ай бұрын

One of the best DYI videos I've seen. Well-done and concise. Thanks!

@EliminatorPerformance 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@darrencollins8028 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for this video! My Cube Cadet’s reverse went to snail slow today and this video was the solution.

@darrencollins8028 6 ай бұрын

Also I’ve subscribed to your channel as I’m new to having a riding lawnmower this fall and I’m sure I’ll need help in the future.

@heterogeneityrocks1 Жыл бұрын

Never seen it done before, learn something new every day. Cheers

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@delmarrathbone7092 11 ай бұрын

My local Cub Cadet dealer said to only use the Cub Cadet fluid in my HDS-2165 which costs $18 quart. I was determined to find an alternative and after searching the web for months I found a gentleman that worked at the Cub Cadet factory in 1995 when mine was built and his job was to fill the transaxles with oil. He said the fluid came from a barrel labeled Castrol 20w50. I’ve been using it in my mower for over 25 years and have never had a problem.

@85camaro57 7 ай бұрын

Rear axles aren't assembled at a Cub factory. They are Tuff Torques assembled and filled at their factory.

@delmarrathbone7092 6 ай бұрын

I guess I misspoke. He said the factory and I assumed it was the Cub Cadet factory. I didn’t know the axles were built elsewhere. Thanks for correcting me though.

@KensSmallEngineRepair Жыл бұрын

The simple things usually elude us. Good fix. Thanks Jake!

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ken!

@wylykyotys Жыл бұрын

My Stanley quit going forward and backward, your remedy worked like a champ, Amazing!! Thank you!

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, glad it helped!

@ernestphilyaw3959 10 ай бұрын

Really good, really fast video. First one I've watched, that didn't require removing safety switches, cutting, or adjusting a push rod, that will kill the forward, just to give you more reverse.

@Pete.Ty1 Жыл бұрын

👍👍👍 Once again another 1st class instructional video. Thank you.

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks Pete!

@1968dasher 10 ай бұрын

Thank you so much, I had my cub cadet serviced and been having issues mowing on my step incline since I got it back, 5:26 did this and works like new, thank you so much

@808airgunsbackyardaz6 Жыл бұрын

Amazing video again helping owner's to DIY it

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Glad to help!

@user-nt6wg3td3o 6 ай бұрын

Thanks did what you said with video and demonstration. Worked like a charm. Thanks

@waynestefinashen239 Жыл бұрын

Great information on a simple fix done on a nice short video. Well done amazing how many hydrostatic drive mowers are coming in that have this problem and it is so easy to fix.

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Yes very quick fix, thanks for watching!

@Rein_Ciarfella Жыл бұрын

Hey, Jake! Thanks for a great tip. I expect this condition is more common than most would imagine.

@waynestefinashen239 Жыл бұрын

Just weird that the last 3 Cub Cadets that came in had the same issue some with hardly any hours and others with many hours on the meter.

@Rein_Ciarfella Жыл бұрын

@@waynestefinashen239 Sounds like more than a coincidence. Are there gaskets involved or mating surfaces that aren’t decked or flat enough from the factory, or maybe fasteners not torqued correctly?

@waynestefinashen239 Жыл бұрын

@@Rein_Ciarfella No all is good just happens that they rarely go in reverse or never paid a lot of attention to it. Jakes repair has worked on all of them so far.

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Yes definitely happens to quite a few, the old man did the purge on that XT1 and it reversed much better afterwards.

@mattdeluca99 11 ай бұрын

Thank you! Was frustrated by this for so long. Parked it facing downhill on yard. Worked like a charm! 😊

@bobnarrus3218 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the information!! Worked perfectly on my XT2. Appreciate you sharing it!!

@happycamper5900 2 ай бұрын

Perfect! This is exactly what I needed. Thanks.

@bwilsonleasburg Жыл бұрын

Great video. I have a Craftsman T240 2 years old and the backup problem I was having was grass buildup behind the pedal. Using a hooked wire and a compressor with a blow gun attachment I clened out around the pedal without having to take anything apart. I then used the quick fix noted here and everything worked like new.

@HobbyMotorDK Жыл бұрын

Super nice tip Jake. Thanks for sharing

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks HM!

@donaldsmith188 2 ай бұрын

Excellent! Great info, thank you. Subbed

@christophertomlinson414 3 ай бұрын

This was very helpful! Thank you!

@Bbendfender 2 ай бұрын

Thanks. My Xt-1 is doing the same thing (won't move in reverse). I'm going to try this method.

@garmstr400 9 ай бұрын

Excellent Video

@TLMD Жыл бұрын

Now that was awesome man! Thanks for that info brother! Keep up the awesome work!

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@GeraldJensen Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@Big_Johns Жыл бұрын

Nice job Jake 👍

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks John!

@roc89 Жыл бұрын

Awesome another great video❤

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@davidellis7695 Жыл бұрын

What a great tip! Thanks for sharing this.

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@TreeSawTTV 2 ай бұрын

Great save!

@craigh3332 Жыл бұрын

Worked "perfectly" thanks for the video

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@LewisMowersandBoats Жыл бұрын

Good to know thanks for the tip brother Jake 👍

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@ayyyoomarv 10 ай бұрын

Worked for me. Thank you!

@JungleBobRepair Жыл бұрын

Good video, thanks for sharing the info!

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@Tommyr Жыл бұрын

Another great video, thanks!

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks Tommy!

@henrymurawskibigdogrepair Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jake

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@Rein_Ciarfella Жыл бұрын

Jake, the problems with your sound on a windy day are easily eliminated. Either purchase foam covers for all your mics or you can even make your own with something like prefilter foam and elastic bands. This same fix also works if you ever develop “s” mic overloads (known as sybilance), often caused by a mic placed too close to the speaker but also possible if the mic has the high end EQ tuned incorrectly.

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

I have a Sony camcorder with a professional mic that has a wind sock, but this was a rapid fire video I filmed with my phone. Quickly shot as I didn't have time to format an SD card and set it up. Too many mowers to fix lol

@shannonrusso5441 Жыл бұрын

Have a 2021 XT1 42” that stopped going forward or reverse. As I was driving it felt like something just let go. Have checked belt, pulleys, and bypass rod but found nothing. Think I’m still under warranty but wanted to know your thoughts so maybe I could avoid having to take it in for service. Thanks.

@maxrockatanksyOG 11 ай бұрын

If you change the oil at the 50hr mark & not 200hr, it helps the tanny (can i use that word anymore) last longer. I asked my dealer to change the fluid- they didnt as it is a "lifelong oil", so will be doing mine this week

@nicklloyd496 11 ай бұрын

I’m going to try this and report back.

@markvol11 9 ай бұрын

Does that work for the mower if it is slow in forward AND reverse?

@jamiesawyer5102 Жыл бұрын

That's a great tip

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jamie!

@roboverholt2035 Жыл бұрын

I have a cub cadet 1050 with the 22 hp kawasaki I love it

@richardstone5241 11 ай бұрын

What type and weight oil do these things use? Mine is a 2015 and has never had the oil changed nor is there any mention of this in my manual .....go figure!

@sweetlou5902 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the quickie Jake! Ha ha ha

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Lou!

@MrGattor33 Жыл бұрын

Oh very nice and good info. Does this work for all hydro's like also on JD series??? Thanks for the video 👍🏼

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Yes it will purge the air out of any hydrostatic transmission

@ericmoss8344 Жыл бұрын

Great tip!! I've had issues w/reverse for a couple years now on my Cub Cadet LT1042 (older mower I know) but it has the hydrostatic non-serviceable transmission. Will this air purge process be safe on my mower as well? I've wanted to service the tranny as I'm pretty sure the gear oil is worn out after all these years, but she still runs, just not like it used too.

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Yes it's perfectly safe for all hydrostatic transmissions, it basically just allows the hydraulic fluid to flow around it as it's in "bypass mode" and is recommended when the drive starts to lack. It's not a guaranteed fix, but it definitely helps most models that come in with weak reverse.

@ericmoss8344 Жыл бұрын

@@EliminatorPerformance thanks. I'll be sure and give it a try this weekend.

@GrampiesWorkshop Жыл бұрын

How's she goin'? Thanks for posting this. This sure is a good tip and a heart attack preventer eh!! LOL Take care!!!

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Grampy!

@mikepatten1373 Жыл бұрын

I have a xt2 cub cadet LT46 and when the reverse switch is pushed to mow in reverse, the deck will mow for a minute then it cuts off and I have to press the switch again. Any ideas what might be wrong?

@mikekelsch9464 9 ай бұрын

after started, turn your key into the yellow position, push the orange triangle and leave the key in the yellow position while mowing.

@sweatinthedetails375 Жыл бұрын

I have an XT2 with the Cub cadet fuel injector motor smokes like crazy when I 1st started up any ideas?

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

White or black smoke? If it's white it could be valve guides or valve stem seals, if it's black it could be an over fueling issue

@robk2670 Жыл бұрын

Does this only work on the Cub Cadet ?

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

No this works on any hydrostatic transmission, and I did this on a zero turn X Mark, although that was a little different because of the filter and external oil reservoir, but the steps are basically the same. Put trans into bypass mode and then run it forwards and back to get the air out of the transmission; kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iq6gbKdmlrrZYY0.html

@robk2670 Жыл бұрын

@Eliminator Performance thanks for the info.

@LaceyLutterbein Ай бұрын

Question for you (probably a dumb one)… I just bought a new Cub Cadet LT42. The reverse is not working or if it happens to work, it is VERY slow. I’m assuming there could be air in the lines from when it was assembled? I’m hoping I didn’t get a lemon. 🥴

@EliminatorPerformance Ай бұрын

Try the purge, it seems to work well on these "non-servicable" transmissions. They're basically fluid pumps, so any air in the hydraulic fluid makes them not work so great. The biggest complaint I get is weak reverse, and this usually fixes it.

@robertmailhos8159 Жыл бұрын

You had to burp the transmission 😂 she had Air in her tummy 😂

@philliphall5198 Жыл бұрын

Lololo that’s really what it’s about to

@robertmailhos8159 Жыл бұрын

@@philliphall5198 yes it is 👍

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Just a bit by the looks of it, thanks for watching Robert!

@robertmailhos8159 Жыл бұрын

@@EliminatorPerformance your welcome young man 👍😎 (Jake)👍

@toddsparks661 Жыл бұрын

How do you do this with a zeroturn hydro trany.thanks

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

You need to put each transmission into bypass mode by opening the relief valves. Watch the video I linked in the pinned comment

@marcpuzier7130 Жыл бұрын

grass dirt build up by pedal stops often is problem for weak reverse

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Yes good point, this one was clear. I use compressed air to blow out all the debris on the mowers I work on

@Mach141 10 ай бұрын

My 2015 XT1 has the K46

@Mach141 10 ай бұрын

I wonder why your XT1 had a hydro-gear?

@gamertwisted Жыл бұрын

Attempted process, still weak/no reverse. It the hydrostatic toast?

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Next I would check the drive lever on the transmission (what the pedal rod hooks up to) as it could have a large build up of grass behind it, preventing it from pushing back far enough to engage the reverse drive!

@user-xe8hx4jt8e 5 ай бұрын

I tried it but it pops out the pin in back

@EliminatorPerformance 5 ай бұрын

Use a pair of vice grips/locking pliers to hold it

@philliphall5198 Жыл бұрын

Warranty should start from time it’s bought not when it was made Are you sure you’re correct ????

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Yes most likely, but my customer didn't tell me exactly when he purchased it so I'm just going off the manufacturer date. Basically saying it's experiencing issues and it's around 3yrs after it was built which I'm sure is no coincidence.

@CooganBear 9 ай бұрын

Will this work on a John Deere? I have an LT150.

@EliminatorPerformance 9 ай бұрын

If it has a hydrostatic transmission (hydraulic fluid pump) then yes it'll work!

@CooganBear 9 ай бұрын

@@EliminatorPerformance Thank you for the reply. I'm going to try this today. My rider has been getting a little slow in the get go. The drive belt is tight, so hoping this will help.

@macmccune21 Жыл бұрын

3 months out of warranty and anyone who "money is not an object" to will buy a new one. Planned obsolescence should be illegal. I don't expect companies to make 50 year lawn mowers but this is predatory

@waynestefinashen239 Жыл бұрын

I have seen a lot of push mowers that have lasted 30 and some 40 years (with proper maintenance ) but very rare to see a rider mower last that long even with proper maintenance mainly because of transmission failures.