Glad you enjoyed it!

Sorry it’s taken so long! How’s your build going?

The questions of quality about these chinese frames will never be settled in a satisfactory manner. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rMyXh7t33Zqtnqc.html

Bought the same frame allmost a year ago...still loving it! Good support from Carbonda which js a big +.

cause people are lazy bums who don't ride bikes

Just buy a set of Spark screws from Scott. They'll fit.

Thanks Nigel. I do enjoy the process of building bikes, is often more satisfying than a fully built bike. This one took a bit longer than planned though but was an interesting journey

@@davidarthur IT'S ALIVE

The questions of quality about these chinese frames will never be settled in a satisfactory manner. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rMyXh7t33Zqtnqc.html

@@violent_bebop9687 but Taiwan isn’t China. I lived in Taipei and Taichung for 6.5yrs and have the utmost respect for their capabilities. Top notch.

@@nigelstanley3674 - and this frame is from China. The armpit of QC, you literally have to hold a gun to their heads to get it right. All I'm saying for me, is that I do my fair share of downhill, and have zero risk tolerance for failure of the frame.

Definitely the same mindset as me. I just went with a company that cost a little bit more but had a lifetime guarantee on the frame

Did you build the cc bike? I'm thinking of building up a trifox with carbon wheels and rs sids. Wondering what frame you went for.

That’s a really interesting idea

Or even using some of the more modern alloy steels. Chromoly and forming super effective tubes has come a long way. It can be argued that even today steel is the perfect bike frame material. It’s as lightweight as carbon if done right. Unfortunately trends and marketing has made titanium and steel a less desirable product in the mainstream bike consumer world. Fun stuff :)

I did and they couldn’t help me with these parts

@@davidarthur I feel like that is an absolute shame for a frame manufacturer. At least the bolts and thru axles should be available as they are so specific to dimensions of the frame. Glad you were able to find parts with the right pitch and length

Not a chance you would get this "easily" to 21-22lbs, you would need to put in alot of money. Nino Schurter’s Spark RC is ~21lbs.

What spec did you go with to get it so light? I'm jealous

@@davidarthur -120mm sid ultimate -165x45 sid ultimate -gx carbon crank -garbaruk cassette 50-10 -xx1 chain -gx derailleur -lightbicycle recon pro rims dt350 hubs -magura mt4 brakes -thomson carbon bars -china carbon saddle -carbon seatpost -maxxis aspen 2.25 tires tubeless -eggbeaters pedals And no remote locks for shocks.

You have to be careful, you must or else kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jMB4isxjtNuZhWw.html

I don't see why not

I think the factory that makes this frame also makes the Scott Spark. The only difference may be Scott sends x amount of carbon fiber sheets to the factory and ask the factory to make X amount of bike frames. They probably calculated how many bikes roughly their carbon fiber sheets can be made which is part of their quality control. The said factory however, since they already have the blue prints for the bike will then make their own version using their own sourced carbon fiber sheets. That is why you see the weight difference between this frame and the Scott's original Spark

@@shafhamid83 strange, but still they have to pay Scott copyrights, it´s scott engineers that draw/engineer the frame.

They do not have the same quality control nor are they basically the same painting, although they look very the same.

@@DaviCupra well if the factory runs an honest business they would pay Scott. But we're talking about excess production. Extra frames the factory produce that were not part of Scott's order. Put it this way, certain 'fake' Nike shoes are made in the same factory in China as the real ones Nike sells. Nike give the design and ask the factory to male 100,000 pairs. I as the factory owner make 100,000 for Nike and 20,000 with spare or cheaper material and don't tell Nike. I sell them as an off brand that look like Nike

I read that it was one of two SCOOT SPARK frames being tested, SCOTT selected the other version for production and licensed this mold back to factory so its all in good business. Note that almost every MTB is made in China. Assuming mold layup is consistent its likely equivalent to a SCOTT. I also heard that the world cup team rides or rode this version of the SPARK mold so you riding a great geo proven bike. Assuming what I read is true haha

Still riding it, hasn’t broken yet! I’ll pencil in an update video soon yeah?

@@davidarthur Please. Would love to watch a long term review.

Nope, all built by my own fair hands

Thanks, I've put the links in the description, hope that helps

I build same frame and i was order scott spark 2017--> trunnion mount hardware kit and thats fit there. But only trunnion stuff (lower hardware) mine come with rear axle, and upper shox mount sleeves and down only standard mounting hardware what you can use with 165x38 shox.

115mm rear 100mm front. Thats definetely not mainstream😂

It’s a XC bike with 100mm rear travel and designed for 100mm front, but you could put 120mm up front if you wanted

I haven’t been but I must admit some of the comments have flashed through my mind on a few descents

Thanks. I'm sure a 120mm fork would be okay, will slacken the head angle a bit but probably be okay

I have front sid 120mm / rear sid 165x45 (115mm). Works just fine and still feels xc bike but you can take bigger hits on downhills.

I've put those links in the video description for you :)

@@davidarthur thank you thank you thank you

Apparently they are now providing those bits with the frame which is a good thing

Check ebay. There are some in there

Check dengfu website they are pretty reputable

115mm rear, 100mm front 1:00

Yea my first impressions were "Wow a great looking scott livery!" Then I saw the title of the video and my heart sort of sank haha. It looks similar to the Scott Spark/Genius lineup aside from some minor differences like the location of the rear shock and maybe some reach differences, these are some differences I can sort of see from the video. I'm pretty sure it's scott inspired 😂.

Of course it's a copy of a western design. It's all they do. The important question is, is it manufactured properly???

I dunno why it's so expensive in Philippines, maybe parts are taxed because they rather people use gas?

Are you alive?

@@phenofinder9145 Depends on the day. I have the Trifox fork on one bike and an Enve fork on another , can’t tell a difference..

Actually it's what the chinese shops charge for a frame like this...

that's exactly my thoughts, plus shock, hardware, axle, time to find it all, frustration, possible heart attack :) also prefer to build myself, but will stick to majors

The sad thing is, it would still be cheaper than buying a Scott Spark frame brand new. That’s the state of current pricing on frames.

@@shwndh okay but you’re basically saying buy a no name burner phone over an iPhone because it’s a “little” bit cheaper.

Full suspension and 29” wheels. The weight is respectable.

Carbon wheelset will take weight out where it counts!

Mavic 517 wheels and Deore DX components! Woooooo! Bar ends are legit tools and would still be popular today if the super wide riser handlebars weren’t the trend. It’s all fun stuff

@@audimaster5000 it was a (bad?) joke but in all seriousness I clip trees sometimes and bar ends would potentially snag something and rocket me over the bars. That speaks more to my sloppy bike skills than to some fatal flaw in the design. I had them back in the day (1998) and they were great for long rides on tarmac or gravel.

hahahaha!!

You could buy lighter components like wheels, tires and drivetrain parts to make it lighter. Its already lighter than the spark he mentioned. Looking the 900 rc comp online it weighs in at more than 12 kilos while this was about 11.6 kilos. Im sure with some lighter after market items you could get it down to 10.6 kilos without really breaking the bank, using more chinese carbon and maybe more expensive used things like used xtr pedals since they never seem to wear out along with used lightweight wheels and cheap chinese carbon seatposts that dont break. I know coz Iv'e built one myself out of all chinese carbon . It's 6 years old and still being raced.

🤣😅😂 HeLL TO THE NOOO !

Thanks! Can't do much about the local trails, especially when there's a restriction on travelling to better riding spots.

I guess you're smarter than....all of us. I mean, there are a lot of people killing it on carbon bikes.

I dont konw why you think the Chinese carbon frames are more dangerous nowadays.. maybe 7 or 8 years ago that was trueto only an extent. I lived in north Thailand and have ben around and owned chinese carbon frames . They are made in the same factories in mainland China that even Tawian manufacturers contract to nowadays. they go thru extensive testing. They use moulds that OEM use to develop their finished products, maybe one or two generations more evolved, but certainly strong. ANY carbon bike you buy with the exception of maybe two or three worldwide is carbon from China factories Every main brand you know of uses chinese carbon or carbon from Taiwan, and now even Taipei mmanufacturers are subcontracting tothey are now contracting out to mainland China for production of carbon for the biggest named brands. BTW, the Giant factory in China also makes several very big brands that you know here in USA. You'd be shocked to know which ones. Also,the main way that bike companies like Spec, Trek, Scott, KTM, Yeti, Ibis, Santa Cruz, and the others you know make money when selling bikes is thru inflating the cost of their frames. The components are all the same at various price levels that co respond to their competitors. In other words, a sram gx or Shimano xt level drivetrain is gonna cost Trek or Spec or Scott about the same to put on a bike. Its the frame that they set the price to that gives them the profit margin they desire and need to make a profit. Develoment costs money but its American and European engineers who design the frames and moulds for the high end bike frames that are made in China.