Part 1: Cheap Carbon Frames Worth it? - TRIFOX MFM100 FS MTB Quick Check
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Күн бұрынCheap #carbon #MTB frames under microscope. Part 1: the frame. Looking like an old Scott Spark, this is the Trifox MFM100 XC or Downcountry frame, with 120mm or 115mm rear suspension. Close look at the frame build, details and options.
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⌚ Timeline
0:00 Intro
0:28 Unboxing the Trifox MFM100
1:07 Rear Shock Compatibility, Shock Hardware
1:50 Pivots, Swingarm, Flex Stays
2:49 Boost Rear Triangle, cable routing, tire clearance
3:46 Cable routing, Bottom Bracket
4:13 Seat Tube details, Clearance for Dropper Posts
4:57 Front triangle, Shimano Di2 compatibility
5:37 Cable Routing Details
6:28 Frame protection, Paint quality
6:52 Cable routing options, Headset
7:34 Max Chainring Clearance
8:19 Trifox MFM100 Medium Frame weight
8:51 Geometry
9:56 Conclusions of Part 1
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@streetstangcobra 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see it rolling. Good luck with the build
@richardroskell3452 2 жыл бұрын
I love your gear and tech reveals. First class!
@neandertaler3683 3 жыл бұрын
I’m actually looking into buying the SDY2020 from trifox, so I’m really stoked seeing your video.
@steveindorset 3 жыл бұрын
I’m really looking forward to seeing how this turns, I’ve always fancied having a go at doing a self build! 👍🏻
@steveindorset 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB thanks 👍🏻
@fopea46 3 жыл бұрын
I just finished building the trifox mfm200 hardtail :)
@kevinborovsky3558 3 жыл бұрын
Good video as always. Nice looking bike (Prone is also a nice looking frame hmmmmm). Once built and ridden will be the true proof. Looking forward to those future videos.
@michaelcallarman7720 3 жыл бұрын
Going to be a cool project bike for sure.
@dylan-5287 3 жыл бұрын
Excited to see what you think over time. I always hear people considering these types of bikes, some seem to have great experiences and some are cautious and say not to push it. Probably all made by the same factory as the big brands anyway haha. Looks very nice!
@tduic 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah man, instant like for subject, will watch it later, sure it's gonna be a good one. Tnx.
@tduic 3 жыл бұрын
I never left, you can be sure about that. :) Nice analysis.
@martynasgustaitis7840 3 жыл бұрын
I bought airwolf carbon hardtail for 412 eur for frame and shipping. They painted the frame for me. I'm quite happy with it. Finished the build a month ago.
@Norztrom 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video :)
@diybillyc5000 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 Ican full suspension bikes I built myself and they're great. 4 years now with no issues
@lionhead6405 2 жыл бұрын
Just finished building two ICAN P1 Trail bikes (full self paint and build) and first ride impressions are very good. Still in shakedown phase!
@viniciovieirajr. 3 жыл бұрын
Very good presentation! We were curious to test one of these frames imported from the east...
@rubenvor 3 жыл бұрын
I own 2 Chinese full suspension carbon frames. One is a trail (120mm travel) bike and the other an enduro bike (150mm travek). Almost 3 years on the trail bike, I have done xc races with it, and totally love it. Less than 3 months on the enduro one, the extra travel provides extra confidence on jumps, to the point I destroyed both enduro carbon rims. I love it too.
@lce4375 2 жыл бұрын
Good Morning, can i know which chinese brands/models you would advise me, with respect to the trail bikes? since i would like to buy one of these as well, thank you!
@rubenvor 2 жыл бұрын
@@lce4375 for trail I have an Airwolf frame. It's not the best as it's not too light for a carbon frame, but works for. For Enduro, go with the Ican P9 frame. Best of the Chinese options and a great frame.
@mikelo303 11 ай бұрын
@@rubenvor what else/better/best you recommend for trail bike? I am planning to build full sus downcountry bike next. Looking for a frame and carbon wheels. Thank you!
@arthurak8903 3 жыл бұрын
Almost at 50K!!!!!!
@edriannereytobias3286 3 жыл бұрын
Hope to have that kind of mtb 🎉
@aaminn 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to a review after you've used it :)
@aaminn 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB noice! :)
@marekzmazur2077 3 жыл бұрын
I had my Spark RC SL frame, triangle and linkage replaced on 3 different occasions in 4 years. If it brakes one more time I'm replacing it with this. Thanks for the video.
@marekzmazur2077 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB Oh from what I read on forums it does.
@marekzmazur2077 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB I've heard people ordering spark frame kits and they fit perfectly on these frames.
@antoinebenoist2941 2 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB Have you sorted out the right parts to mount a trunion shock ? :p
@rgmtb 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on about the dropper. I was sent one of these frames to review and did a build up video on it. While picking the right dropper I went with a PNW Loam 125mm post because it has a short enough post to fit and the cool option of adjustable travel. I'm 5'8" and got a med frame. At my size I have to slam the post down for my legs to reach to pedals correctly. This post seemed to do the job for me 👍
@rgmtb 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB Yes. I'm running 115 by way of a trunnion shock from SR Suntour. I was not sure if it was appropriate to put a link to my videos here. I just really wanted to chime in on your dropper comment because getting the right dropper was more tricky for me then I expected and thought others should know. Again, your points are dead on and something to think about when getting the correct one 👍
@rgmtb 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB I'll send over some info. I was very lucky and met a dude James from the James The Bike Guy channel that helped me out. I would have been lost without his help. I did not get those bolts that you got so things got complicated. You will need to get some new bushings.
@rgmtb 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB Shoot me an email and we'll chat. I can also link some helpful videos. I also think I have a few extra bushings and can mail them to you 👍
@soco4949 3 жыл бұрын
@@rgmtb Missing bolts and bushings? If a company's QC process allows that, I would be concerned about where else they cut corners on attention to detail and QC (carbon material, lay-up, etc).
@rgmtb 3 жыл бұрын
@@soco4949 This and a lot more will be discussed in my long term review.
@mstvir 3 жыл бұрын
I bought an OG Evkin XC hardtail frame from Chinese manufacturer, last year so it was around 250 USD, the first frame came with a scratch on a chainstay, I wrote them and attached the picture and they have sent the second frame for no charge the very next day. I have around 3000-4000 km on a frame, mixed terrain, road, gravel, unpaved mountain trails, the frame looks just like the day it came out the box. The only 4 issues I have with the frame are 1. Cane Creek headset bearing does not fit the top nicely, so I have to use their provided bearing with it for the top, bottom bearing fits nor problem 2. The dropout is interchangeable, available for both 135*9 or 142*12, the qr wheels fit with a quite bit of force and are removed with a similar amount of force, did not try with 142*12 but I guess the same issue will persist 3. I cannot fit 40t oval on it for short track/amateur city races (most people ride cheap mtb-s with a 3x so really need the extra gears) 4. The derailleur cable comes out of bottom of the chainstay Other than that the frame rocks, and I most of my memorable long distance rides on it
@graved1gger 3 жыл бұрын
I'm on chinese carbon rims and quite happy with them. Got a few friends who are riding chinese xc full suspension frames and as far as I know some of them needed slight improvements on the pivots by a local mechanic. Also quality may vary from one frame to another, you can buy two or three of the same frame but the overall quality might be different. As for the support, if you buy via aliexpress they usually honor warranty claims (sometimes even when it was fully user error).
@graved1gger 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB nice. What rim that was and it's weight, if that's not a secret? Mine are quite heavy with 2 year warranty (still have 13 month left). Also, seen quite of few broken chinese rims but usually it was light xc rims (300-320 grams for 29 rim with 23-25mm inner width) which were run on low pressures. The good part, it can be fixed, though it might cost like half of the rim itself.
@graved1gger 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB damn, if there were warranty they should've covered it. Nevertheless, another few points to the argument that almost every cheap chinese stuff is a lottery due to bad quality control.
@TeamCykelhold 3 жыл бұрын
Looks interesting although the geo isn't for me. I look forward to hearing a ride report on the flex stays if you will do that.
@teemu3370 3 жыл бұрын
Ooooh we have a new intro
@wql1 3 жыл бұрын
Cool! I bough the same frame and is having a really hard time figuring out the rear shock mount and the hardware needed. The trunnion bolt that they supplied doesn’t really work with the frame, it seems to need an addition eyelet washer or something. Can you make a follow-up video of the rear shock install?
@jailbreakoverlander 3 жыл бұрын
its all well and good but when your flying through the air and the frame breaks. I wouldnt be able to ride without worrying.
@sakkek5349 3 жыл бұрын
Well... i have seen 5k eur frame break apart on steep hill. So i rathet watch what manufacturer recommends to do whit it..Cos xc frame isn't the best choice in Dh rides.
@LR6092 3 жыл бұрын
Trifox and other reputable Chinese manufacturers build solid bikes. I've been riding a trifox frame for some time now, just as stiff as a frame 8x the price. Your expensive carbon frames are built by trifox, winspace ect anyhow
@petermurphy4170 2 жыл бұрын
There all made in China Singapore Indonesia so it doesn’t really matter😂. But trifox is good
@kikoy08 3 жыл бұрын
Cheap but it has quality in it!
@chriselliott9286 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like a review of Trifox's one-piece bar and stem combo!
@williammorris6097 2 жыл бұрын
yes that would be great!
@petermurphy4170 2 жыл бұрын
Trifox are very good frames. I’d love to know how you got on and are getting on?
@GokkunGuru 2 жыл бұрын
Do you run the Jagwire housing damping foam the entire length of the housing or just the down tube section?
@shafhamid83 3 жыл бұрын
I'm inclined to believe that Scott frames are made in the same Chinese factory that makes these Trifox frames. My guess is that the factory takes orders from Scott and manufactures the Spark but then uses the same design with some slight modification (so that they're not direct copy) to make their own Trifox brand
@marekzmazur2077 3 жыл бұрын
What most people don't know is that of you manufacture in China the factory owns your mould after 3 years. These Sparks are open source frames now.
@gregparret87 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think the pivots and bearings in the frame are the same as a Scott spark? I’m hesitant to buy just because I don’t know if I could get replacements when they wear out.
@GFClocked 2 жыл бұрын
Other people that tested this frame noted you should not put 120mm fork, because it's designed for 100mm (even from the model number that's clear), but they will write anything like 100-120mm to sell it. The BB gets too high, handling is compromised with the longer travel option. The overall suspension kinematics are not so good, especially once longer travel options are used. I'm very interested to know your opinions on this though.
@derrick5507 3 жыл бұрын
Looking like an interesting build, I am currently looking into a full sus XC ebike build myself for general riding in aluminium though as its quite hard to get a bike ordered at the moment. However, I have just completed a full sus chinese carbon build using Dengfu frame E10 in XL and 150mm travel (ebike with bafang). Similar to the Luna X1 Been testing for 2-3 months now with no issues other than one needs to grease al linkages, locktite on key bolts holding the battery and the main chainstay linkage. All internal routing worked OK but a bit fiddly when installing as I did not have the routing tubes pre installed like the trifox one. Looking forward to what you make out of the frame. 👍🏾
@derrick5507 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB Nope...battery and motor shipped separately...had to install it all myself from scratch. Hope you find a fork, parts are trickling down these days. I am hoping to use an old fox factory fit4 with 140mm travel for the XC build I am scouting for.
@derrick5507 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB LOL...😆 🤣...looking forward to the build.
@adriancabrera3014 2 жыл бұрын
Man great video as always ! I was thinking about buying a rhb200 integrated handlebar ! But I don’t know 🤷🏽♂️ I can’t thrust in carbon as much as I need to install carbon components XD
@adriancabrera3014 2 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB this are sold like that isn’t it? I don’t need a torque wrench 🔧 just for a handlebar ?
@DunnoWatsgoinon 3 жыл бұрын
Are there bearings in top pivot? (the one near tires)
@juanhidalgo7043 Жыл бұрын
Thanks MTB! I have mixed feelings about in-expensive frames from China (or any other country). My take is that if these were to be available here in the USA, they need to meet USA safety standards as other companies do. Assuming we do here (department of transportation?). There are other things to consider: reliability, warranty, taxes, safety, etc. Are other countries also implementing taxes sold online? I think these topics go beyond the bike itself. My own personal take on this.
@Zohar-Modifier 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't there way cheaper CF frame on aliexpress or shopee ? This is probably a Taiwan or China frame rebranded in Singapore . Around USD$300 - 500 cheap CF frame with much ratings or even cheaper but no rating if you dare to order .
@MTB_Rider_96 2 жыл бұрын
I'm on my 6th bike build using frames and wheelsets direct from the manufacture in China. I paid $695 for the last carbon FS frame and $895 for the carbon wheelset with DT Swiss 350 hubs and arrow blade spokes. With the savings on the frame and wheelset, I was able to afford a Sram XX1 Drivetrain and a $900 fork, and complete a very high-end build that cost at least $9000 at ALL retails stores for $4750. I beat the hell out of my bikes all over Colorado, Arizona, and the Mid-West, and not 1 problem with the frame after a few crashes. If you have $3500 for a brand name frame and $2500 for a Wheelset - Great! I'm one of the guys that needs to save $$ where I can, so I go for discount frames.
@mikelo303 11 ай бұрын
What brand do you recommend for full sus down country (120/120) bike? And what carbon wheels? I am not looking for cheapest but rather for the best (most reliable). Thank you in advance!
@thingsstuff 3 жыл бұрын
I literally bought a frame (hard tail) and wheels from Lexon just this week, also a few other bits, waiting to see how this goes...
@thingsstuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB Will do, whichever way this goes I will share it for others to have an idea of the process. I ordered from Aliexpress using the option to have taxes already included (shipping into the EU)
@thingsstuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB I was thinking I would be able to save in buying everything together, but from talks pre-purchase they stated wheels and frame would go in separate shipments, so not much saved...
@jonienglish3231 3 жыл бұрын
MAKE a Video was Looking at the LEXON 29er Colors Really POP i just Built a FM-009 Rigid - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/na-mrNKjuNewhYE.html Finished - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pc-CesuSydGpdY0.html
@SergioProdi 3 жыл бұрын
@@thingsstuff how do you do that please?
@thingsstuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@SergioProdi Shipping with taxes? Some sellers offer this, you will have to look in the description
@sm83ivanov Жыл бұрын
Спасибо большое за хороший обзор! Сейчас выбираю между этой рамой и lexon spirit 29. Они идентичны по цене и я пока никак не могу придти к решению какую из них купить.
@sm83ivanov Жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB Вопрос в сложности выбора подходящей мне геометрии, т.к. у меня мало опыта в этом. Катаю я в основном XC. Я выбираю из 3х рам на AliExpress: trifox mfm 100, Lexon Spirit 29 2022, Lexon Titan (это просто цвет), которые можно посмотреть на официальном магазине Lexon. Есть еще Lexon Genius 2022, с амортизатором под верхней трубой. У каждой из них своя особенность, которую мне не понять, т.к. не было практики катания на разных велосипедах. У вас прекрасный канал и я нашел много полезного на нем, спасибо большое вам! Я понимаю какая это большая работа, но если есть возможность осветить тему геометрии рам (на что влияет расположение амортизатора, в чем различия между разными подвесками для велосипедиста) доступным языком, то это было бы очень полезное видео (по крайне мере для меня 😊)
@Aprendeinglescantando2425 2 жыл бұрын
165x38 shox would work buddy ? Thanks
@BeniBrian 3 жыл бұрын
I also have a Chinese frama ( BXT ) hard tail
@BeniBrian 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB yes, it the second year all fine
@MaQuGo119 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully now that SCott has released a new model, the chinese copy that too 😎👌😁
@sebastianeiselt37 3 жыл бұрын
I hope not! IF anyone gets copyed and the innovation gets stolen in seconds, then they will get less money back and will have less to design new frames and bring the Industry forward. I mean, yeah you get a cheap Bike and all, but to be honest, i would not have a good feeling about a stolen Design. If its an old Frame, then ok, im fine with that. But stealing an new and innovative Frame Design is insanely bad for the MTB Industry. I hope you change your Point of view and appreciate the Innovation more.
@sebastianeiselt37 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB im fine with that, even if i believe theres only one valid Point of veiw on Stealing someones Design. but the Original Comment that said he wishes that they copy the new spark as well pisses me off. And to be honest, if they would pay scott for the Patent, and would offer it, i would be totally finde with that too. Maybe thats even what they did with that Frame, i dont know.
@sebastianeiselt37 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB Okay, thank you! I would love to see comparison Videos or something on this Line! Sorry for my poor "sentence Construction", im not an native Speaker, maybe its a bit hard to really understand what i tried to say :D If the Frames arent "Fakes" thats really okay for me, and they are probably a great way to build a budget race Bike... but i really cant stand the theft of intellectual property and innovation :D
@Dustydayzz 2 жыл бұрын
How is it holding up
@pepeanza6187 3 жыл бұрын
Nice it seems like it's ok on the cable routes but the real review is how it rides? The number of the geometry looks like 5 years ago, 68.5 head angle is like pure competitive xc
@pepeanza6187 3 жыл бұрын
jerem bob I have a stumpjumper hardtail from I think 2013 whit 100mm of travel the bike can climb anything but in very steep sections you have to move your body to the front very much, compared to a new modern geometry frame that is longer, slacker and more important the seat tube angle is more steep in new bikes you can climb and be in kind of neutral position and I don't even talking in the decending department, my bike is 70.5 Ht and you can feel how your body is over the front tire in steep downhills not so fun.
@jonathanvasquez9604 2 жыл бұрын
Im thinking of a Chinese brand carbon FS frames..
@mizanbest6402 3 жыл бұрын
can't wait to see when it's fully installed. But I wonder too, it's not easy to get the same shock as scott spark.
@DerHackbart 3 жыл бұрын
The frame looks good. Build quality seems to be okay. An other youtuber ( jasper verkuijl) got send a road frame from trifox and the first look was horrible... 😲 Quality control seems to be a bit off.
@DerHackbart 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB Yes, of course the quality of the fibers and their layup can't be seen. But .you don't get a good feeling, if the headset raise is full of loose fibers, brake mounts are under colour and the seat tube has an obvious void. I think jasper will reach out to trifox but the questions he had for them about production, testing etc weren't answered before, so I'm really interested how this story ends.
@DerHackbart 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB kzfaq.info/get/bejne/isd8iq1kuNuneWw.html Here's a link to his first look of his frame. I'm hoping he does a follow up video.
@adambrickley1119 3 жыл бұрын
Is this a press fit BB? Think that is a deal breaker! Id fit a praxxis to get round that. Its what i have in my sl4. No creaks.
@adambrickley1119 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB Cheers for the reply! Should gave guessed there are loads of options. Be interesting to see the build. Seeing as a blur cc is way out of my price, this seems like a way to get a very good cc bike at a decent price. I'd prob go for those cheap adjustible travel forks for maximum downcountry without ruining the climbing.
@tinshield 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of people point out that most carbon frames are made in China. Does that imply they are made by the same factory/people and same methods? To me, this frame looks a bit rough and the hardware a little cheesy but hard to tell on a video.
@williammorris6097 3 жыл бұрын
That's a weird way to weigh the frame. No manufacturer weighs the seatpost clamp and an axle to determine the frame weight. Weigh them seperately and it helps the viewers much more. I 'm interested in seeing this frame built up as I was considering it as a project myself.
@williammorris6097 2 жыл бұрын
I just purchased a Lightcarbon model LCFS 911 frame that looks almost identical to this frame except the rear axle area is more the shape of a scott Spark. It is a bit lighter than this and is advertised as 1980 grams for my medium. It was shipped from China and I paid an additional $200.00 or thereabouts for shipping and the box came in eleven days. There wasn't a single dent in the box and not a single scratch or chip of paint missing. All the parts were included. The woman who works for Lightcarbon, Wendy , was extremely prompt in returning my emails and sent shipping tracking numbers to me as well. I'm extremey pleased with mine and would recommend them to anyone who wants this type of style frame.
@mumpf7594 3 жыл бұрын
Idk. Cable under bottom bracket might rub into the carbon. And quality control could be bad. Hm. Not for me.
@adriancabrera3014 Жыл бұрын
now thinking in buying this frame¡¡ it still in one piece ? is worth it ?
@adriancabrera3014 Жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB well I’m looking for a frame that doesn’t brake ! XD I mean quality is good ?
@ivanteo1973 2 жыл бұрын
It came from my country Singapore? But we don’t manufacture any frames.
@ivanteo1973 2 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB The frames are made in China, that's 100% for sure. I am suspecting you ordered from drop shippers in Singapore.
@ahhlongg 3 жыл бұрын
That's literally the Singapore postal service NOT the bike manufacturer 😂
@HarryPotter047 3 жыл бұрын
do you call a cheap carbon frame " cheap carbon " ? or do you call it " carbon frame that`s cheaper than all the others "? ( i`m not even sure that makes sense ) LOL becase it depends on expectations. if you have the money to buy an S-works epic HT frame ( 2500 dollars ) you will, but for the rest of us, a 700 dollar carbon frame is as good as it`s gonna get. Lightweight aluminum frames do exist, but they can be quite expensive. So, if you`re not a particularly heavy of aggressive rider, a carbon frame that`s cheaper can be all the bike you`ll ever need.
@camperp195 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll stick to aluminium,less hassle,easier to fix
@graved1gger 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean easier to fix? Alu is never going to be the same after welding a crack or something like that while carbon can actually be fully repaired. Though pricey as hell.
@camperp195 3 жыл бұрын
@@graved1gger aluminium can be welded in minutes,carbon has to be sent away etc etc,as a fabricator i know what im talking about
@graved1gger 3 жыл бұрын
@@camperp195 well, can't fault that logic, if time is of the essence.
@camperp195 3 жыл бұрын
@@graved1gger if it is welded properly,by a professional that knows what they’re doing,more often than not the weld is actually stronger,but sadly there are cowboys about that just weld over the break 🤷♀️
@fwmtb 3 жыл бұрын
@@camperp195 Aluminium cannot be fixed in minutes, after it's been welded it needs to be heat-treated
@thedestro187 3 жыл бұрын
where do you buy the frame ? pls give as a link !!!!!!
@MTBfixHQ 3 жыл бұрын
I got my scott spark rc 900 carbon HMX frame with fox nude shock, fox 32 step cast fork and scott twinloc system for $2000 and the bike rides like a million bucks, that was 2 years ago and im sure it would be hard to find now for that price but $1000 seems excessive for a cheap, low quality, horrible quality control china frame where there are so many videos of people getting hurt from them breaking, i've owned a couple china frames in the past and personally would never cheap out again. Now that the new scott spark frame came out you should start seeing 2017-2021 frames being sold for half decent prices soon, would be a much better idea then this china frame if you ask me
@MTBfixHQ 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB The scott spark is the lightest full suspension bike you can buy, its about a full pound lighter then this china frame, so if you crash and smash the frame on some rocks, or if you take a turn really fast and smash your chainstays on a tree there definitely is a chance of breaking it. Also scott has different level of carbon quality for the spark, the lightest and most expensive is the HMX-SL but even nino schurter rides the HMX because its the most robust for the weight, this guy you speak of most likely has the HMX-SL frame which is so light its basically only meant for high end racers for race day, any story you read of the spark frame breaking is most likely with the HMX-SL frame. That being said im 190 lbs and ride very hard and have not had a single hiccup with my HMX frame, when comparing my scott bike to my past china frames the stiffness and quality difference is through the roof. I seen the way you ride your bikes you are no novice, I personally do not feel its worth it for you to save some money and ride the china frame the same way you do with your norco frames, a frame like this I think is better suited for a novice lightweight rider. I just really want people to understand the main risk with carbon fiber is quality control and china frames have the least amount of quality control, a reputable brand like scott has insanely good quality control in comparison. China's main focus is to copy the frame, build them up as fast as possible, hand them out for free to youtubers to put a good word in and they make a shit ton of money
@MTBfixHQ 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB NP i feel I have to give some input from my experience over the years. I know it seems like im trying to scare you from riding the bike but thats not my goal, I think if you decide to ride it just make sure you keep a good eye on all the stress points of the frame, do regular checkups, chances are most likely the frame will survive and be fine since the frame is actually quite heavy compared to the spark. I also feel its just not a good time for everybody to be supporting china, this is one of the main reasons the world is as crappy as it is today : / Take care!
@pontoy60 2 жыл бұрын
Scott Spark clone?
@AlvaroQF 3 жыл бұрын
The UCI requirements to pass the tests are not enough for carbon frames, so if the brand is not well known they might be using open-mold frames and might not be doing tests home, only by the manufacturer, and relying only in them for this is not a good idea, so good luck with that.
@benmillns8976 3 жыл бұрын
My only issue with far Eastern carbon is that there's no way to tell what you're getting and customer service is going to be dire (if there's any at all). I do think that there are some decent carbon brands out there though. I've got bars and seatpost and they're solid.
@antonioleon6090 3 жыл бұрын
She looks a Scott frame lol
@INSIDIOUS1986 3 жыл бұрын
Down country is just a trail bike
@piworower 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jMB4isxjtNuZhWw.html another happy customer but its not the same frame. thanks for all the great content, lets see how it works out for you.
@jamble7k 3 жыл бұрын
not for down hill or enduro haha
@waterhouse235 3 жыл бұрын
People need to know, all carbon is from China, I know I work in the bike industry, no matter what anyone says, it is from China! Your just paying for the name!
@waterhouse235 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB this is true, you will see small labels, inside, or even on carbon forks, usually saying 'pass'
@waterhouse235 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveMTB when they import the frames/forks from China, they get a 'quality' pass/stamp
@willng247 3 жыл бұрын
Asian? What’s Asian. You mean Chinese?
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