THANK YOU

Yooo i was so confused i thought i clicked the wrong video.

I’ve been waiting for this , thank you

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I really appreciate the people that do this. Thank you

Agreed. Looks awkward as hell. Like Edgar the Bug from Men In Black.

he has 2 core per hands

Richard is the type of man who would prefer a hand-crank Maxim over an M60.

@@PanzerVII-df8hg I don’t have the data to disagree or concur with your statement if consumers wanted 4K consoles or not. Progress is ever ongoing, in all areas. 4K is better resolution, it’s a fact, but regardless if it's 4K, 8K or 28K, the performance, and experience should always be prioritized.

@@jericoba exactly.

I couldn’t agree more, they should’ve prioritized framerate and frame time even before worrying about moving anywhere past 1080p, maybe 1440 at very most (which in my opinion is usually fine for resolution, 1440 is a perfect sweet spot.

@@fullauto86 1440p is totally fine. 4k is luxury and maybe even overkill for most games. The cost of 4k monitors alone is outrageous, let alone a graphics card that can actually run native 4k without DLSS and FSR at 120fps. 60 fps is the bare MINIMUM but 100-120 fps is the sweet spot for smooth gameplay. Why does everyone NEED the graphics to be better, they've been more than good enough for the past ten years and now all the new games run like crap and have more bugs than we've seen since New Vegas.

what if they stop selling 1080p TVs? its not ideal to use a 1080p machine on a 4k TV

@MEanME who the hell gonna use a monitor for the PS4? Plus there are 4K monitors 1080p TVs wont be in the market in the future dude and thats why you gonna have to focus in resolution than 60fps

Exactly! I finally chipped into the Pro because it was on black friday sale for $299 US. DREAMS for PS4 runs better on it and as far as I understand, so does VR (also a black friday acquisition). And I believe exceptional quality 1080P TV's plasma, LCD, OLED, QLED QDOT...will be around long after we're all dead. Just like you can find endless supplies of flatscreen CRT picture tube TV's for 1st and second gen gaming, for free damn near anywhere. Those TV's were several thousand new. Like the Sony and Advents. I won't be heading into 4k gaming any time soon unless it's on a PC. And that's only because of future upgradeability which consoles inherently lack. Just my .02

Graphics in 4K is what they selling these consoles on - but 1080p in 60fps is perfect on FullHD sets.

@Marko L Good idea 😀 Especially if they are still selling for sub £280 😝

DF 2017-2018: Glorious 4K With This PS4 Pro (mostly Upscaled):)) DF 2019: Is PlayStation 4 Pro Worth Buying For 1080p Gaming? DF 2020: Is PlayStation 4 Pro Worth Buying For 720p Gaming? No no no, when you advert. as a 4K console. Do not try so hard to sell PS4 pro. People are waiting for PS5 to come out. By the way, I have a ps4 pro. I bought it when it was first released (CUH7000) and I like it very much.

it was mostly so the PS3 wasn't neither a 720p console because most of the multiplats run at 640p?

@bejais well that what happen for being a cheap ass gamer Remember when people complained about the price of PS3?: -If PS4 wasnt underpowered, it would held back Sony´s profits like the PS3 but way better -Now that the PS4 is underpowered, it had to held back gaming its a hard decision to make, specially after the miskates they did with the PS3

kader mami DF 2017: Nintendo NX uses Tegra!!!!! DF 2018: The switch manages to pull good enough graphics though many games drop below 1080p DF 2018: While the Switch is vastly Underpowered it manages 720P hopefully DF 2020: Why the switch is gooood at 480P DF 2021: To run the switch at 360P is optimal

If Regular PS4 Have No problem stay in 1080P, PS4 Pro won’t exits, Regular PS4 Is just a 720P Machine

haha it was alfreds fault

Oof, the Alfred Chicken jokes were awesome haha

It was also getting a bunch of dislikes 🤔

Alfred and the Fettuc?

Digital Foundry showed their true colors of being Sony's fanbots

Ironworks1990 yeah and if you google ps4 pro games resolution you'll see most fall between 1620p and 1800p with some checkerboarded to 2160p

Not really 1080p with better framerates is all i care about i use a 1080p monitor and i like it better then what i seen on a 4ktv console aint ment for it they shouldv worried about framerates not checkerboarding wannabe 4k

@@vexthegreat9453 i agree. Performance is king.

Because they're mean. But seriously I know the pain. The unfortunate truth is that monitors are a smaller market share for ps4 users and 1440p is even smaller. It doesn't seem hard to do, most games already run at 1440p on Pro anyway. The only solution really is to a newer monitor; most modern 1440p monitors will accept and downsample a 4k signal.

Same reason Nintendo doesn't. These are meant for TVs in a living room.

Because they are closed platform. Options are for open platform like PC.

Microsoft allows it, don't know why Sony still doesn't allow it.

@@terryyee4271 the Xbox supports 1440p and VRR, Sony are anti consumer

game is rendered at 1080p still and scaled down. this has been tested before but don't have the link to hand. basically nothing happens

Ah, thank you for that! That's what I thought would happen, but I don't have a PS4 to try it on. It's kind of a bummer, to be completely honest.... being able to run it on a tiny screen, at the best framerate would be a pretty neat novelty.

Im telling your mom

That's pretty awesome, but how is 500G treating you? I can't imagine you'd be able to put more than 5AAA games . . .

@@jheref lol what?

@Transistor Jump more recent ones are around 60-70 though no?

I was just asking a question and now people are making fun of me 🤷🏽‍♂️ so much for open conversation

I'm using a 2Tb Firecuda SSHD. Just as good, but cheaper.

A lot of people are not poor and can buy one right now and not need to save for anything. You have broke logic my friend

@Hallison Michel Exactly. Played on base PS4 and PS4 Pro, and I really don't see a difference. At least not enough to justify getting a pro over the OG PS4.

That's the best approach, even when it was new Pro was already a more attractive offering for people who didn't own a PS4.

SteelSkin667 does anyone know if the pro is just as quite as the slim when running in 1080p instead of 4k. Surely if the pro is not pushing 4k it’s working less so there’s less stress on the hardware therefore it should be cooler and quieter than if it was attached to a 4k tv. I really don’t want a noisy machine at the foot of my bed!

@@thebossman80s In theory that should be the case, although in practice it probably depends a lot on the game.

Not with supersampling. But with everything else yes.

Do ps4 pro have low fps on 1080p than ps4 slim?

@@rockbrayn978 no, it always has higher fps than PS4 Slim when it output Regular 1080P without Supersampling, PS4 Slim barely even hit 1080P

True 👍

the original ps4 is a great machine, and still the leader of the un-enhanced consoles. I think that phrase works better for Xbox since the x1 was subpar, and the X is such a competent improvement. But I never felt a generation behind on og PS4 like I did on my Xbone early to mid gen.

In 2013 a 4.2 tf gpu with a 2.8 tf cpu and 9gb of gddr5 wouldve costed a arm and a leg.

@@tymo8708 ps4 pro has 8GB of GDDR5, and a 2,1Ghz Cpu, and would cost an arm a leg and a eye 🤣

@@viniciuscoxoba3842 the ps4 pro has an extra gb of ddr3 hs but its cpu caps out at 2.8 tflops of computing power in 64 bit. And the cpus from 2013 that had such power often costed more than 400 bucks

Yes and no.

Xbox one X optimized for 4K...what are u talking about?????

@@TyJosh Xbox one x and ps4 pro are a fake k consoles

@@mohamadnasmeer6311 Red Dead Redemption 2, Forza Horizon 4 and other games are in native 4k on Xbox One X

Shots fired :)

He lives in Germany

Yeah

Did the same today. No fucks given. PS5 can wait until next year.

@Aputsiaq Lennert YEAH, BUT FOR HIM IT CAN WAIT FOR MORE ONE YEAR.

@@xeraliZe that's so true, I'm saving for a ps4 pro rn. I'll enjoy as much as I can the ps4 until i played every single game that i like with an stable performance. The ps5 doesn't let you play every game you had on the ps4 and there's not that much games in there so I'll be waiting a couple years I think.

@@jsr6579 Preach. Exactly what I'm talking about. There's so many good games or hidden gems on the PS4. Plus, you'll have a smoother experience too. Don't regret getting a PS4 Pro one bit.

I think 900p should be enough

@@ShooNeyt you can't force 900p. only options are 720p and 1080p, and 4k.

720p won't do you any good because PS4 games aren't rendered at 720p. The PS4 would simply downscale it.

@@symphony137 I'm not so sure

@@Solegor he's right. Other than 4K and 1080p, and even that is on a game by game basis, the PS4 settings are for display output only and don't affect rendering. Only options you get are up to the developers, if there's performance mode and resolution mode, etc.

Yes. SS mode OFF. Boost mode always ON.

@@elisalicayu4377 Sometimes boost mode causes problems in some games, so it's worth disabling for those titles.

Both mode just off, if u always boost mode, it will make your console hot and your thermal paste will not last long

I believe it's quieter.

Off..also boost mode off

Fully agree, it's a bit annoying.

Is it 60?

@@someonesomewhere8658 Most of the time yes with a dip around the bifrost temple area

@@someonesomewhere8658 It's unlocked, much smoother. And the Supersampling make the visuals polished.

It'll play better on the ps5 I'd wait.

I prefer locked 30fps to unstable 45fps.

Oh yes, playing the pro on a plasma tv is the best way.

plasma ew. even the best ones are bad today, because of gas leaving (huge issue with plasma). oled for me. hdr gaming is amazing.

The super sampling mode is more than likely doing what you are describing. I'm not sure whether the scaling to the output resolution is handled by the software or by the system, but since developers can manually set the rendering resolution depending on the front-end settings, there's a chance that it is the former, whereas Xbox probably handles scaling from whatever arbitrarily sized framebuffer it is given to the output resolution. There's a chance that exposing a flag would either require to change the way the console handles scaling, or require developers to plan for a third 'downscale to 1080p' setting in their game.

fredcrewneck that’s what I do , be ready for it also I need to save for a 4K tv

@@TheBrightjay 4k TVs are cheap now too

@@TheBrightjay TCL

@AnEn what games benefit from supersampling

@AnEn Would you recommend buying a Ps4 pro for the supersamplig feature? Is the difference noticeable? Less jaggies etc

@@Bcap222 It seems to me that Sony first party titles clearly benefits for the supersampling without any performance issues. I have a pro setup for a 40inch 1080p led tv and all their first party titles run smoothly with supersampling enabled but there's a few issue in 3rd party triple A titles like the Wither 3 with supersampling enabled but when turning off the ss mode, it runs smooth again. Here's my final though: The PS4 Pro is worth every penny for a 1080P Led TV (every games are now rendered in a native 1080P plus a huge improvement in performance) rather than a fake 4k renederd with a dip in performance.

That and Surge 2 are fun to play!

Devs makeing their games on pcs to run on consoles basically. So not optimizing lol

Alfred Chicken backlash.

@@pandapolygon Lol!!! I had to recheck my internet connection.

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Tom Pitcher YT premium helps!

ngu0061 agreed

I'm just hoping that PS5 has PS4 backwards compatibility.

@@CaveyMoth It does, it's already been confirmed.

Almost no PS4 game runs with 60fps.

@Transistor Jump no, fact. This very same KZfaq channel here has videos here that prove that.

@Transistor Jump wow, you destroyed me, if I would care about that. The kid here, seems to be you, defending a plastic box, like it's important. Get a life, go outside, might help, might.

@Cat Man yeah, this channel shows it, and yet these idiots lie. Not understanding the internet in a nutshell.

@Cat Man actually most games are 60fps. But almost every openworld game is 30fps. Almost every indie game is 60fps, every fighter, most racers, sports and shooters are 60fps. The majority is 60fps by far. Still too many 30fps games though.

they're still a lil awkward since they made out at the company christmas party

Kind of awkward to begin with, so for some people it's funny and make the other person laugh. These aren't the kind of guys that are used to being on TV or camera, but that's just the kind of age we live in right now where these types of people who has expertise in this area can actually find an audience and following.

lmao, for real.

DylValentine LOL

Back in the day I also bought PS4 Pro, at first , I thought it is overrated , but it turns out , those benchmark video on KZfaq prove the PS4 Slim is just Way too weak , barely hit 1080P

Dankeschöön, tschüüss :)

Isn’t he American?

Ikr? I always thought he was American. Didn't know that he could speak German as well.

@@KeyToAnime I think he is American, but living in Germany

@@theFrizzleFry I'm fairly sure he's German.

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You complete fool

@@carbonsuicidemtb1583 don't see how im fool of Im satisfied with the product i purchuse

@@acebreaker7 that is exactly why you are a fool

Get a PC instead of getting a ps4 pro then a ps5

@@theroyalmemes8611 I've been on pc since 2012 and I regret it the lack of quality 3rd person games is unbearable PC has a lot of which I don't give a shit about simulators strategic games and fps (which is just reskinned trash) nothing unique So I'm thinking but ps4 pro or wait for PS5?

Its better to change thermal grease even if its new.

Ive got my pro horizontal but its raised up slightly on foam pads, increases airflow and the foam pads cut out any vibration noise.

they will run at 1080p.