The Callisto Protocol - The DF Tech Review + PS5 vs Xbox Series X/ S + PC

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We've been eagerly anticipating this one - and on PlayStation 5 at least, we're getting a simply brilliant game and a proper technical showcase. That's the bulk of our coverage in this tech review - but there's clearly something amiss with the Xbox Series port, while the stuttering problems on the day one PC experience are unbelievably bad. Note: At 21:35, the label under PlayStation 5 should read Quality, not Performance. Apologies for the typo.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction
01:19 - From Dead Space to Callisto
02:32 - The Visuals of Callisto Protocol
10:50 - How is Ray Tracing utilized?
12:43 - Performance Mode vs Quality Mode
16:04 - PlayStation 5 vs Xbox Series X|S
18:29 - Performance Analysis
22:38 - PC Performance Analysis
26:42 - Loading Times
27:52 - How does it sound?
30:22 - How about the gameplay?
32:36 - Wrap-up
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@SCORPION7712 Жыл бұрын

Crazy how it's the norm now that we already expect a post patch note to fix all the hiccups

@fafski1199 Жыл бұрын

Exactly, there shouldn't be any need for many patches or fixes, if the game was how it should be and be in a polished, fully tested and finished state when released. Why we the consumers or the official consumer agency's and watchdogs keep letting game devs get away with the same crap time and time again, is just beyond me!! Just like any physical product, it should be made illegal to sell a game in such a broken and unfinished state, that's not fit for it's purpose and/or is not in a satisfactory condition to the consumer.

@LSK2K Жыл бұрын

All? Some.

@Emo_Parker Жыл бұрын

Ikr. Imagine how many broken games there would be if we were still in pre-online gaming times.

@No_one54 Жыл бұрын

Honestly it'd be awesome if games didn't need a patch. But it's really needed unfortunately given the dead lines and amount of content that is in the game. Games are far more bigger than before and require a lot more work. However, I'm not saying it's great that developers have to release a patch, or that it's okay. But I'm giving a perspective of the situation.

@dannysblazingbonfire Жыл бұрын

Especially if you buy the physical disc. if you ever want to play this game way later when the servers for the updates are gone. you are stuck with the 1.0 version with all the performance buggs. making it totally useless to get a physical version in the first place.

@ImSoDan Жыл бұрын

I've noticed that on PC you can listen to audio logs without having the menu open by pressing TAB instead of escape. The log will continue playing if you exit that way.

@alecgarcia963 Жыл бұрын

That’s my biggest annoyance so far on Series X haha

@dodgyhodgyo4 Жыл бұрын

Staring at the menu for 2 minutes really makes you feel like the Callisto Protocol. Dead Space team take notes. Edit -Nevermind I was wrong, thank god.

@peanutbutterwarrior1503 Жыл бұрын

You can actually do the same thing on ps5 if you press pause twice. It'll just resume gameplay but play the audio log in the back

@benandrani Жыл бұрын

@@peanutbutterwarrior1503 cheers dude. It bloody works 💪

@intro_game-night.theories Жыл бұрын

@@peanutbutterwarrior1503 thanks for this

@Adam-hn2iw Жыл бұрын

Surprised to see the broken HDR was just brushed over. To prefer SDR on a game that has a HDR implementation means something went very wrong.

@SunkenPlanets Жыл бұрын

Another wonderful DF video! It really feels more than a review, there's so much love put into making the video, starting with the atmospheric title card, the use of music throughout, deep tech analysis and tapping into 2022 gaming tech narrative with stutter issues. I feel like this (and many other DF videos) could play in a museum exhibit!

@MKR3238 Жыл бұрын

the quick switching between versions to show the differences on the fly is done perfectly, must have been a nightmare to line up 👍

@whatsupmanbearpig Жыл бұрын

You don't have to line up every frame, just the first frame. So really, it's just comparing the videos between two starting points then closing the gap through trial and error.

@ColdFear6666 Жыл бұрын

@@whatsupmanbearpig They can even control all versions at once with one controller, right?

@whatsupmanbearpig Жыл бұрын

@@ColdFear6666 oh yeah true, they do have to do them separately. But still, it would probably be a few takes. It's not that maddening replicating the movements, there aren't random occurrences to alter the output. I am not saying I don't appreciate their accuracy in comparison, but unless you don't like games or are scared easily it's not a nightmare, just tedious. No need to exaggerate.

@ColdFear6666 Жыл бұрын

@@whatsupmanbearpig Yes, I agree with you!

@ionseven Жыл бұрын

Da best at "spot the difference" videos vs other KZfaqrs. :/ Meh... At least it's John, who is the only guy worth listening to with his industry knowledge and insights. The rest of DF not so much, especially Alex after Halo Craig Edition.

@ShlumpGaming Жыл бұрын

It's so sad watching these teams work so hard on their games and making them great, only to drop the ball right before the touchdown with the performance problems.

@mattspeer01 Жыл бұрын

This game doesn't just have performance problems, the design from the ground up is broken. Can't fix that with a patch.

@runner9528 Жыл бұрын

Meh. Nothing that can't be fixed. Doesn't bother me at all. Just don't buy games on release.

@yoool7137 Жыл бұрын

I guess they had to release before the dead space remake… the performance problems, no ng + or chapters, its rly an unfinished game

@seifboujemil 4 ай бұрын

Jacob is probably the most REAL looking character that I have ever seen in game.

@ArcaneMessiah65 Жыл бұрын

Thanks DF for the profound analysis. Playing on PS5, I am being perfectly entertained by The Callisto Protocol, despite the negative points that some testers only see. For me one of the gaming highlights in 2022.

@dcarpenter85 Жыл бұрын

I can't stress how much I appreciate you mentioning the audio for the game. As a fellow audiophile I would love to see all DF reviews touch on the audio output of the game in question.

@1Matik_ Жыл бұрын

What audio set up are you running ?

@Dini_Tsii Жыл бұрын

Yessss 100% agree with this.

@anshbalde7101 Жыл бұрын

In most reviews done by John, he does touch upon audio if the game audio stands out

@raszelast Жыл бұрын

Audio is so crucial for setting the mood in a horror game. Good sound design can make even the mundane seem threatening.

@dcarpenter85 Жыл бұрын

@@1Matik_ Very similar to John's. Marantz SR7015 with the VS3003 HDMI breakout box. 7.1.2 Atmos speaker system.

@alanaeichsteadt Жыл бұрын

Can’t wait to listen to poor Alex explain shader cache compilation stutter

@schmidtdedonno3948 Жыл бұрын

Nice tech review as always and also enjoy your opinions on the game itself at the end! Would be nice to make this segment a permanent addition to future DF analysis.

@OneStepToDeath420 Жыл бұрын

Glad the photo mode was mentioned. Wondered if it will have one after seeing the detailed faces and impressive visuals in the trailers.

@cody3335 Жыл бұрын

I know! I can’t wait to zoom in on the monsters with the awesome lighting implementation.

@shaggymcdaniel3216 7 ай бұрын

I’m finally playing this game and I love it. Never completely trust reviews without your own experience.

@abdullahnaeem7275 6 ай бұрын

Same bro played on ps5 and damn its a good game.

@natr0nzero Жыл бұрын

Also forgot to add the HDR implementation works but it’s black level is backwards. So if you have an LG OLED and have ps5 in auto black level and your tv settings also auto it will exhibit raised blacks and look like ass. Leave PS5 set to auto but change TV black level setting to LOW rather than auto or high and this corrects raised black level . No reason to play the game in SDR to get black levels accurate. Also HDR is gorgeous in this game with all the dark scenes and specular highlights with lighting . I’m using an LG C9 btw but imagine this translates across most LG OLEDs. Don’t use SDR, just toggle black level on tv setting and you’ll see an instantly more vivid picture with deep blacks . I’m also using HGIG and it looks gorgeous

@existential_ Жыл бұрын

SkillUp had his review up this morning and when he mentioned stuttering I instantly thought of Alex's well being lol

@slutbunwallah Жыл бұрын

Lmao, I thought exactly the same!

@IshiGanOrig Жыл бұрын

Imagine watching skillup xD

@spenny2cents Жыл бұрын

@@IshiGanOrig imagine watching DF and poking fun at someone watching Skill Up

@travisbickle4360 Жыл бұрын

@@spenny2cents I don't understand what is wrong with DF? Have they shillled or done anything embarassing like Skill up?

@IshiGanOrig Жыл бұрын

@@spenny2cents well, at least df didn't compare days gone to rdr 2 and didn't say that they're similar narrative-wise, lol. Skill Up is a clown.

@MGSFan100 Жыл бұрын

About Audio Logs: You can pause the game (Escape/ Start Button) to close the Log Menu and move about normally.

@darthniloc6099 Жыл бұрын

I wish devs would put in a 40fps quality mode for 120hz tv’s/monitors because it cuts down the frame time from 33ms to 25ms which gives it a significantly smoother gameplay experience. I wish John would recommend it as valid option to have more in his videos to push it more on devs because it is a lot better than 30fps. There’s a few PS5 titles that use 40fps quality mode and it’s a game changer.

@jn4126 Жыл бұрын

I love this option in games, but if a game can barley hold 30 I don't think a 40 lock option wud be possible without stripping features. There ain't no one size fits all solution with these things

@sellingacoerwa8318 Жыл бұрын

You know what else gives "a significantly smoother gameplay experience"? +20 frames per second

@AntiBellum Жыл бұрын

I’d love for an option that enables quality mode for cutscenes and then switches back to performance mode during gameplay

@Pro720HyperMaster720 Жыл бұрын

@@sellingacoerwa8318you’d be surprise how not, if you look time between frames 30fps is double than of 60fps, BUT 40fps is just in between 30 and 60fps, so even if it’s only 10fps more than 30fps, in fluidity feels way more close to 60fps than to 30

@Pro720HyperMaster720 Жыл бұрын

I thought the same, but seeing how demanding Quality mode seems to be maybe they don’t have enough overhead, but at the same time, they seemed to be short on time, showing lots of issues on PC and an inferior version in Xbox, so maybe it is possible, I would love at least an statement of the developer if it is or isn’t possible

@tyraelhermosa Жыл бұрын

Great coverage. Thank you for the work you do.

@Phelaidar Жыл бұрын

Honestly, its almost a fact now that the best way to play games is 6 months after release. Almost all games have poor frame rate and/or stutter at launch. 6 months later, most are fluid, frame rate is improved and new features are added. It's almost like people are playing "early access" versions at launch

@krismate2895 Жыл бұрын

Sad but has been very true for a number of years now with AAA games. It seems they're in such a crunch to get these massively complex and lengthy games developed in such a ridiculously short time (like 2-3 years) that they are just never polished and are always supremely buggy when they launch.

@TheDarksideFNothing Жыл бұрын

TheActMan has a great video on "modern gaming" that talks about this exact phenomenon. I'm 100% on the same page as you. Just wait for the first good sale so you get it cheaper and the devs have had time to actually finish the game.

@okcoolmax Жыл бұрын

And 50% of them end up on game pass lol

@tm0054 Жыл бұрын

This 100%, makes no sense to buy games at launch anymore.

@JudgementNutter Жыл бұрын

Yeah the fact a game as short as this has to get New Game Plus added in after launch is mind boggling. Understandable for something as complex as Ragnarok but an 8 hour linear game like Callisto? Such an afterthought...

@thefourbytes Жыл бұрын

I am just feel sad as a developer myself that shader compilation is not picked up in a QA testing. The first experience is always the most important experience. Game shouldn't be released if this not solved.

@JoshHodgetts Жыл бұрын

QA definitely catch this stuff, it just doesn't get prioritised for a fix and eventually gets waived so that they can meet the launch deadline.

@TheDarksideFNothing Жыл бұрын

Yeah I can't believe issues like that are greenlit for release

@MrLiquoredmind Жыл бұрын

As a QA working on AAA titles with Unreal Engine 4, devs generally don't care about shader compilation issues. Reported issues regarding those issues mostly waived in seconds because of their low priority to focus on more important game breaking issues. Sad fact about game development unfortunately.

@SamuelHauptmannvanDam Жыл бұрын

You don't think they feel like they had to?

@rorynolan2322 Жыл бұрын

Maybe Devs should just stop using unreal. I'm amazed that no one uses Id tech it's seems to be the most amazingly optimised engine out there

@tetsuoshima7385 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic breakdown. No mention of any lip synch/dialogue delay issues in the cutscenes. I’m experiencing those on my LGC1, although a minor gripe.

@JorgnyBA Жыл бұрын

Thanks for pointing out the elevated black levels, definitely a noticable problem when you are used to regular OLED black levels. The SDR mode with the gamma turned down seems better.

@natr0nzero Жыл бұрын

You don’t need to run it in SDR. DF got this wrong , the black levels just don’t update if you have AUTO selected on your OLED . Leave PS5 black level at AUTO and set your LG OLED to LOW and it looks perfect .

@RamiKamel11 Жыл бұрын

I can't fine the gamma option in the graphics menu, please help

@JorgnyBA Жыл бұрын

@@RamiKamel11 You have to disable HDR in your consoles system settings before launching the game. And of course turn it back on again after closing the game if you want to use HDR later.

@RamiKamel11 Жыл бұрын

@@JorgnyBA Many thanks dear

@faujibrat Жыл бұрын

i had the same issue where the gamma felt way off. Check if your tv has picture settings to lower gamma or black levels. On a sony tv, you can adjust picture settings in game mode. lower the black level before fiddling with gamma in a dark scene.

@slutbunwallah Жыл бұрын

1:34. It’s mind boggling on how Dead Space still holds up visually on those older consoles.

@TheseHotIdiots Жыл бұрын

It's the power of a great scope and good art design. It does like 90% of the work.

@amysteriousviewer3772 Жыл бұрын

If you run them at 4K they can almost look current gen at times.

@nickkiller-0710 Жыл бұрын

Good lighting makes wonders, F.E.A.R. still looks great even today

@michaelmonstar4276 Жыл бұрын

Yea, I was thinking that. It has always looked pretty great. The only downside is… well, some of the fidelity of the effects and the like, but more particularly the resolutions of textures and the like, which you can’t just increase with a setting. This one happens to be getting a remake then, but even if these were remastered in the same vein as the Mass Effect games, that would’ve gone a long way. I think I’d even prefer that just out of respect to the originals instead of replacing them, even though Motive seems to be doing great work on the remake.

@calmarfps Жыл бұрын

From a distance, yeah. DS has LQ textures, shadows and lighting.

@transtechgirl8786 Жыл бұрын

Damn those stutters on PC. I point blank refuse to buy any game released in this state, I won't give them my money on any platform.

@OptimousePrime Жыл бұрын

Yep fully agree, the fact they want £50 for the PC version also is a slap in the face with the state the games in :(. Will have to hang fire and hope Dead Space Remakes in better shape

@FubyHD Жыл бұрын

It's a bit unfortunate that I have to wait a bit post-release whenever I hear a game uses UE4, but I guess that's the world we live in now. Glad I held off from purchasing the game, and thanks for the hard work as usual John and Alex!

@InnuendoXP Жыл бұрын

There's so much to play that's getting released all the time that honestly, it's easier than ever to just not bother with any games on day one anymore. Unless you're hanging out to dive into a multiplayer game during its peak launch window, there isn't much point.

@LouSassol69er Жыл бұрын

No game releasing right now fully utilises UE5. Those that say they are have barely tapped into it and have at most just ported assets from UE4 to UE5 like Plague Tale Requiem. Star wars Jedi Survivor is probably going to be the first proper UE5 game that's slated for next year.

@roksitzenfrei Жыл бұрын

@@LouSassol69er bro rumbleverse is on unreal engine 5 and Fortnite

@AnnDVine Жыл бұрын

@@roksitzenfrei "fully utilises"

@NothingHereForYou Жыл бұрын

By then it my be on sale

@DuudeWhatDoesMineSay Жыл бұрын

Love the details in this review. Especially the sound and music part. Excellent work John!

@sadjesse Жыл бұрын

I was waiting for the DF tech review, love it!

@CassidyListon Жыл бұрын

Alex, it's a horror game. The devs knew you'd be reviewing it and knew that the only thing you truly dread is shader-compiling stutters. So really, it sounds like they achieved their goal.

@renofheavens2 Жыл бұрын

Lol

@zbigniewiksinski Жыл бұрын

lol dude xd

@TheAbvsyork Жыл бұрын

Lol they definitely scared him away from the pc version 🤣

@VladimirYashayev Жыл бұрын

What a gem of a review. Deep and structured. It is a pure joy watching the footage and listening to your wholehearted commentary. Thx a lot !

@bagelborrowing6085 Жыл бұрын

It's just a fucking youtube video. If this is pure joy you need to touch some grass

@ghosface353 Жыл бұрын

You can do this to minimize and perhaps completly getting rid of the stuttering. You first have to open the config file which you find here: %localappdata%\Local\CallistoProtocol\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor\Engine.ini Add this at the end of the files: [/script/engine.renderersettings] r.CreateShadersOnLoad=1 This should create the shaders on load, instead of in game.

@OMjosh123 Жыл бұрын

For this. You are the hero of the world and you shall be rich and all that you touch will prosper and you will have twins and live a fulfilling life

@ErenTheWarcriminal Жыл бұрын

I agree with the other guy, but don’t have kids. Save the world and have more money at the same time!

@reNINTENDO Жыл бұрын

If this is all it takes to significantly improve this issue... why is it not the default setting on release??? Like clearly the console versions must be using something like this. Why in the world do games continue to release with this setting set to false when it's obviously affecting the games so negatively? I would rather wait an hour waiting for shaders to compile than put up with the stutter shown in this video. I'll have to dig more into this, but I was looking forward to playing this game on PC. If this fix works I'll probably move ahead as intended instead of hoping for patches.

@Reydriel Жыл бұрын

So the engine clearly has a setting to do this, one that can be set manually by users. So why isn't it the default? WTF

@iris4547 Жыл бұрын

@@Reydriel obviously the devs simply over looked it. consoles have shaders pre computed as they are set hardware, this cannot be done on pc. but im sure this setting will be enabled in a future patch.

@itsd0nk Жыл бұрын

Between this and Scorn, it’s clear that the fully matured UE4 has reached a new next gen level on its own, with devoted artists working in it of course. The volumetric fog in both games really struck me as something truly new and special. Earlier UE4 games had pretty looking volumetrics, but these two games are seriously on another level with it. Same goes for the insane amount of geometric detail. Everything being perfectly rounded off and drenched in polygonal detail is in a new paradigm as well it seems.

@maratnugmanov Жыл бұрын

Scorn has all things baked and precalculated, Callisto is another beast.

@itsd0nk Жыл бұрын

@@maratnugmanov Yeah but they have a lot in common. Both UE4 games. Both make extensive use of very nicely crafted volumetric fog and atmosphere effects. Both have incredibly fine hand crafted environment detail.

@evilformerlys4704 Жыл бұрын

@@dillydilly9712 Umm, Gotham Knights also had the same issues and no PlayStation devs worked on that, so don't insinuate things without evidence to back it up.

@lessteel9426 Жыл бұрын

@@dillydilly9712 I read somewhere that the Sony "help" is their mocap studio, also used by capcom for RE Village.

@fenbops Жыл бұрын

Scorn was beautiful.

@Core2 Жыл бұрын

For the price they are asking on PC, this is completely unacceptable

@JudgementNutter Жыл бұрын

Man this just makes me want to replay Dead Space 1 & 2 for the umpteenth time.

@raresmacovei8382 Жыл бұрын

Replayed both this year in 4K120, DXVK Async and ReShade MXAO. A superb time.

@jrsomethingnumbers9704 Жыл бұрын

@@raresmacovei8382 Don't the physics go bonkers above 60fps though? lol

@Taijifufu Жыл бұрын

@@jrsomethingnumbers9704 it's been a few years but I remember playing Dead Space 1 at like 300fps before DF taught me about Vsync and I don't remember the physics being too bad. Certainly not as bad as the coil whine from my GPU.

@kennypowers1945 Жыл бұрын

Why replay it if you already know what’s going to happen? I don’t replay games unless it’s for achievements and even that’s rare lol. I see no point if I’ve already beat it before

@VariantAEC Жыл бұрын

@@kennypowers1945 If a game is good... why not replay it every once in a while?

@arsnakehert Жыл бұрын

The B.I.P writing on the character’s clothing really brings back memories of Resident Evil 2 “R.P.D.”

@user-ik8vy1rg8f Жыл бұрын

Those character models and facial animations are some of the best I've ever seen in a game!

@erikhendrickson59 Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU for ONCE AGAIN calling out stuttering on the PC platform! We need to keep it up until this shit is FIXED.

@fullauto86 Жыл бұрын

Yeah pc players shouldnt get fucked just cause their on pc, its crazy man how can they send it to print when it stutters like that

@benjaminhorlitz6696 Жыл бұрын

I loved the detail @27:00 while john is talking about the load times, the Saveroom theme from Killer 7 is playing in the background. I love little editing winks like that.

@Uzaair Жыл бұрын

I had the video playing in the background and heard the theme playing. Brings back memories haha

@rzagza5360 Жыл бұрын

I heard it and was like, "Isn't that?" and went to look it up and YUP!

@steventurous9000 Жыл бұрын

Killer 7 has such a bangin soundtrack

@Psych0technic Жыл бұрын

I noticed it too. Next ambient piece sounds very familiar, too, but I can't quite put my finger on it. Mirrors edge, maybe?

@yutro213 Жыл бұрын

"Multiple Personality"m yeah, excellent OST!

@adamkallin5160 Жыл бұрын

That’s a hell of a comprehensive job you guys did here. Awesome stuff.

@Skrenja Жыл бұрын

Motion blur (when done right) can be beautiful and actually adds realism to games. I wish more gamers would understand that not _all_ motion blur is evil.

@elrey1717 Жыл бұрын

I like it in some games in god of war is very good.

@intheendweallsmellthefoot Жыл бұрын

@@elrey1717 kind of sucks though that motion blur is only really ever done good in cinematic games *granted it should be done right in those games* but i wish devs would make it as good in non cinematic games to haha it can add a lot to the game!

@const3llations_370 Жыл бұрын

thats a weird thing to wish for. Very few games in existence that motion blur actually adds realism too.

@BenLA5 Жыл бұрын

lol what? If u don't have a $2000 OLED, ur monitor will have brutal motion blur already. If u don't turn off motion blur in game, ur adding 2x more blur and it looks like a muddy mess.

@const3llations_370 Жыл бұрын

@@BenLA5 agreed

@fink94 Жыл бұрын

I was waiting for your video. You guys always have the best breakdowns

@jayc9045 Жыл бұрын

Top tier review as always. As a Series X user, I’m disappointed that it can’t even hold 30 fps in quality mode. Even more disappointing to hear it’s also missing half the functionality compared to PS5. Hope this issue is fixed soon.

@TheAbvsyork Жыл бұрын

Hey I have ps5 and I hope so to. I hope to get a series x as well sometime soon but it's def not perfect on ps5 either so don't feel to bad it lags for sure

@rabbyd542 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, I always run every game on performance. Quality mode has yet to be 60fps on any console. Frames first. The game looks insane regardless.

@Clos93 Жыл бұрын

@@rabbyd542 like these people expect PC performance on a console? These consoles are already being pushed to their limits with newer games. They already need updated versions that will no doubt be unavailable to buy everywhere lol. I play on console as well, but get real people...

@diocub4022 Жыл бұрын

@@TheAbvsyork Basically the best platform to play is PS5 first, Xbox series x second, and PC last. You can tell which of the devs put their priorities on first and last.

@3KPK3 Жыл бұрын

You can thank Sony for that.

@mattsponholz8350 Жыл бұрын

Amazing work here lads! I'm greatly enjoying my time with this title on Series X. My only problem is the poor HDR OLED black levels. I'll try the SRGB mentioned around 27 minutes in. Thank you so much for that!!!

@mattsponholz8350 Жыл бұрын

Actually... Looks like they removed the Gamma option. I only see four options under graphics: performance mode, brightness, motion blur and film grain...

@ArcaneMessiah65 Жыл бұрын

@@mattsponholz8350 Yeah, they've obviously removed the HDR option via the last patch. I have the Oled black level issue too.

@Viggolind0 Жыл бұрын

Dont u stutter sometimes in the game? And fps drop

@mattsponholz8350 Жыл бұрын

@@Viggolind0 I either haven't had those issues or I just haven't noticed it when playing

@Viggolind0 Жыл бұрын

@@mattsponholz8350 ye ok but can u like play the game and try to see if it stutters?

@megatenfold7125 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate the game review at the end, I brought this on PC (unfortunately) but it sounds like it delivers exactly what I wanted based on your review at the end. Thank you!

@DetonaHard Жыл бұрын

Era ESSE o vídeo que eu tava esperando! ✌️

@sexygun135 Жыл бұрын

Excellent review guys, appreciated every minute of it! Side note, really enjoyed the Killer7 save room theme in the background when talking about load times, nice little throwback lol

@resident3vil095 Жыл бұрын

OMG YAS SAME. Was thinking to myself, "wait a minute, I know where this is from" then boom the realization hit me

@BoyBoy-tn2lh Жыл бұрын

Really good review. I might actually play this on quality mode on ps5 instead of the usual performance mode.

@cosmindinaa Жыл бұрын

Playing this for the 1st time now, on PS5 Quality Mode. It's always nice to wait it out and enjoy the game post patches, but I am still shocked that the HDR hasn't been fixed. Black levels are a total mess and they only added the black adjust slider, which is not a proper fix. Other than that, it is exactly what I wanted after so many tedious open world games: an intimate linear cinematic experience, without skilltrees, tons of collectibles and other crap. For the 20$ I paid, I got my money's worth. It's nowhere near Dead Space, but it holds its ground and If you look at it as more of an interactive movie, it really shines. It's sad that it didn't meet the publisher's expectations, which is highly likely we won't ever see a sequel, and questions Striking Distance existence...

@hogman3543 9 ай бұрын

Got it on ps plus monthly game

@davidludwig7501 Жыл бұрын

Great content as always. Im so ready for this game

@marcopetrone7806 Жыл бұрын

Can't wait for the old-gen tech review!

@hxcislife17 Жыл бұрын

its not a fix, but if you're on PC you can make the stutter slightly more tolerable if you switch to the DX11 render and run the benchmark before starting. Hopefully the patch improves further.

@Kytetiger Жыл бұрын

so it's something to do with the shader compilation?

@redcrimson1028 Жыл бұрын

I skipped the pc version and opt for the ps5 version. I don't get anything that Denuvo has their name attached to.

@sirzebra Жыл бұрын

@@redcrimson1028the performance hit has zero to do with denuvo tho what are you on about ? It's the exact same shader-loading induced lags with a cracked version (yes, it's already out, denuvo means nothing).

@sirzebra Жыл бұрын

@@Kytetiger as stated for about 10 minutes in the video, yes.

@Bestgameplayer10 Жыл бұрын

@@Kytetiger Did you not watch the video?

@HammadiTheOne Жыл бұрын

I simply love your videos and analysis! Keep shining team

@dildojizzbaggins6969 Жыл бұрын

*analyses (plural)

@poedono9640 Жыл бұрын

Loved the video! It’s nice to see a positive take on the game as many reviewers have had negative responses(which are completely valid). I myself am loving the game and getting this insight into the technology makes me love it even more. Also John you convinced me to play in quality mode lol.

@NyneIX9 Жыл бұрын

Oof. Now I'm nervous. I just bought the game for $90 (!) and have yet to read the reviews. I bought this game based on the director, which admittedly is not much to go on these days, so I'm hoping it's good.

@poedono9640 Жыл бұрын

@@NyneIX9 I also bought the $90 version lol. I regret that a little but I don’t regret getting the game. I think it’s great so far but I will admit it is not hitting the same highs as Dead Space for me(although admittedly that’s a really high bar lol).

@NyneIX9 Жыл бұрын

@@poedono9640 I'm glad to hear it. From what I gather so far, it drags in the second half and is a bit anti-climatic, but the game is still an enjoyable experience. I can dig that, I think.

@poltergeist7621 Жыл бұрын

Sony Assigned Over 150 Employees to Aid The Callisto Protocol's Production. And the best version is neither PC or XSX but PS5. THIS IS SCUM, THIS IS BOYCOTTING TO FAVOR PS5. Period. And the Xbox Series S looks like the Xbox One. Knowing this is a cross-gen title I can't imagen how the XOne or Ps4 are. I'm pretty sure the PS4 Pro will run better and XSS just because Sony paid for boycot Xbox and PC.

@MichaelCordeiro Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the great look at this game, look forward to playing it for myself soon. This is random but some of the background music in this video reminded me of Death Stranding, a game I absolutely love. Keep up the great work!

@travismorse5050 Жыл бұрын

I've been excited to pick this up but it's gonna need more time in the oven. Great review and thank you for the hard work.

@Razor_Regiment Жыл бұрын

Finishing up my play through on PS5,overall enjoyed it.Happy to support Striking Distance.👍

@shanejc4 Жыл бұрын

Does it use the new and improved haptic feedback on the controller well or not? Some games like horizon west was disappointing

@JorgnyBA Жыл бұрын

@@shanejc4 The game uses the haptic feedback really effectively imo. You can feel it in your hands when enemies are creeping up on you in vents and stuff. It's pretty cool.

@MysticMayne Жыл бұрын

@@shanejc4 It doesn’t utilize it well either, Returnal is still the best in that regard.

@shanejc4 Жыл бұрын

@@JorgnyBA thanks

@CJW0056 Жыл бұрын

@@shanejc4 one thing that stuck out to me with the haptic feedback was how they use it near environmental hazards like big fans, the screen shaking along with the sound really makes it feel dangerous.

@sam_i_jam Жыл бұрын

Yet another lovely looking PC game that I won't touch until the devs remedy shader compilation issues. How is this not a baseline requirement in the QC/QA leading up to a game's release?

@zeus1117 Жыл бұрын

Case that is done for the target platforms only. E.g. consoles.

@ZacDonald Жыл бұрын

Little surprised they didn't use screen space contact shadows in performance mode.

@alexv5581 Жыл бұрын

Can you explain what that is ?

@geforce5591 Жыл бұрын

@@alexv5581 It's less tasking compared to ray-traced shadows.

@219SilverChoc Жыл бұрын

My exact thought too, would have some disoclusion artifacting and wouldnt fill in all the missing shadows, but It would help alot in the peformance modes and Series S!

@ZacDonald Жыл бұрын

@@alexv5581 is a feature in Unreal Engine that adds very small scale shadows in screen space. It works pretty well and seems well suited for this type of game. There are artifacts, but in a dark environment it could be minimal.

@mononoke721 Жыл бұрын

Never mind just a tech review, this felt like a better review of the game overall than most "proper" reviews out there! I think the fact you guys actually understand the tech behind video games actually gives you a deeper appreciation of them on an artistic level, and allows you to judge them more fairly overall compared to the more wildly subjective viewpoints of non-technical reviewers. Don't get me wrong - all viewpoints are inherently subjective by nature, but the more you understand how something is made and put together, the more critically astute your analysis is going to be I believe, and less swayed by personal whims or based more in vaguer 'feelings'.

@unattain4773 Жыл бұрын

100 % 👏

@JacketTheNerd Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Way too many reviewers lack proper knowledge to comment on the technical level of video games and music made for them.

@AcousticForrest Жыл бұрын

I hear you, and love hearing from these fine folks. But, no, you don't need to have tech expertise to know if a game is fun, has a good story and is compelling. For example, I like jazz music, I play jazz, I get it on a technical level so I can explain the beauty of the songs and what they are doing/going for, but you probably don't like jazz.

@JacketTheNerd Жыл бұрын

@@AcousticForrest You don't need expertise to tell if a game is fun, yes, but You should be able to share insight what makes the game fun and name such things when You review it. So many propel vaguely state "the game looks good" or "the music fits the scenes" like complete morons.

@nvrmind1497 Жыл бұрын

Ok, but if, say, I don't like jazz and don't understand it on a fundamental level, it's not my place to say *what* exactly is wrong with the song im reviewing, because I know nothing about jazz. A review should be an opinion piece, but it needs to be backed by actual facts and examples of quality i.e, game design, level design, worldbuilding, character writing, graphical fidelity, etc in order to give the reader the information they need before they decide if the game is right for them/worth the money.

@onigirimerchant Жыл бұрын

May I ask if you had the HGiG mode engaged on your LG OLED? Or were you using dynamic tone mapping? Not sure if HGiG support is growing or not with new games. Thank you

@ForeverVersatile Жыл бұрын

That's what i did. HGIG and dynamic contrast on medum or high. If you use tone mapping then you could set the black level to low.

@nickglover Жыл бұрын

I'd love to see a performance RT option, even if it only hits 40 FPS.

@Lock2002ful Жыл бұрын

definitely!

@superboss7403 Жыл бұрын

Not possible I guess

@Kamstarr12 Жыл бұрын

I just started using BFI, it makes 30fps quality bearable.

@mikeluttor Жыл бұрын

Yes, a 1080p RT mode would have been fantastic.

@Lock2002ful Жыл бұрын

@@Kamstarr12 Is that possible on LG CX? Regardless, have heard good and bad things. :/

@Spoggi99YT Жыл бұрын

The recent surge of bad PC ports is one of the main reasons why I currently use my PS5 more often than my PC. I played exclusively on PC for over a decade and never thought I end up preferring the „console experience“. The less free time you have, the less you want to deal with poor performance and optimization on PC. What’s the benefit of having the best graphics and framerate if the game stutters and ruins the whole experience? With almost every current-gen game having a 60 FPS mode, the switch to a more console-focused gaming was much easier for me to stomach. Let’s hope developers and publishers realize that PC players deserve more attention. Great video as always, keep up the stellar work!

@Cheatman5 Жыл бұрын

I mean it’s been quite the opposite.. PC was a complete after through from the early 2000’s, and 2010’s… only recently we have been getting better games where they are made and optimized with PC in mind in the last 5 years or so. This game among a few others are the exception not the rule. Bummer that it is this way, but overall PC has been the forefront of performance standard for multi platform games nowadays

@hogman3543 9 ай бұрын

My RTX 3070 collecting dust I mostly play on PS5 because my PC destroyed all my save data's 😡

@kharlopena7512 Жыл бұрын

It's VERY CLEAR that their priority was getting this game to run on PS5 smoothly and everything else was secondary. :\

@ddp5406 Жыл бұрын

Lol how does that make sense for a brand new studio that can barely pay their bills and needed this game to be best as possible on everything

@bryankowalczyk3982 Жыл бұрын

Your coping

@danmorariu9889 Жыл бұрын

Or it's because it's a lot easier to optimize for a platform which uses the same hardware compared to platforms with a lot of variations. If series S didn't exist it probably would have ran better on the x.

@davidandrew6855 Жыл бұрын

@@danmorariu9889 This makes zero sense, considering how many PC titles work just fine with a magnitude greater hardware variation, then 2 consoles with a couple of differences in memory and GPU power. What is more plausible, is that Sony had the marketing deal with this game and provided about 150 personnel to work on the title in some fashion. To think those two things did not equate to a better running title, is to be in denial. LOL. I would also bet the Series S has no bearing on the Series X performance issues, or HDR/RT bugs.

@davidandrew6855 Жыл бұрын

@@bryankowalczyk3982 You are in denial.

@TempleofShaolin Жыл бұрын

I’m enjoying the game on ps5, visuals alone are enough to keep me going

@andreadefrancescoartist1245 Жыл бұрын

Damn, this is the best review I've seen. I'm loving the game, and still you have showed A LOT of details that I was missing in the animations and more.

@Blballerboy Жыл бұрын

What version you playing?

@andreadefrancescoartist1245 Жыл бұрын

@@Blballerboy PS5 version, so I'm really lucky

@dist221 Жыл бұрын

Is there any feminist propaganda in this game?

@branberrycakes Жыл бұрын

I'm really loving this game as well. The audio with a nice pair of headphones is suberp and highly immersive.

@xBINARYGODx Жыл бұрын

@@andreadefrancescoartist1245 playing ps5 doesn't save you from utterly shitty design choices that, overwhelmingly, only ps fanboy pretend are not issues because they basically got preferential treatment from the dev team.

@Buffalo99124 Жыл бұрын

Damn, I was excited to pick this up on PC. Going to hope they patch eventually and wait for a discount...

@reginaldmiranda7386 Жыл бұрын

Same. Had high hopes and bought the Day 1 edition. It's just super disappointing that the game was greenlit for release in its current state - which is essentially unplayable!!

@cadenhood Жыл бұрын

The team clearly put a lot of effort into the visuals and art direction, it's really unfortunate that it's being held back by technical issues at release.

@AutoAbsolute Жыл бұрын

Same - I'll wait a few months and get on sale

@Bunta1987qwerty Жыл бұрын

If they fix it soon, we won’t see a discount for a while. If it continues to have issues, the discount should come soon.

@kamitorings Жыл бұрын

@@Bunta1987qwerty after that launch, you'll see it in a month or 2 at 30 to 50 percent off

@ps5andstuffhere Жыл бұрын

Playing now on PS5 and fully updated. Game is amazing that's all I know especially with this haptic feedback controller. Wow

@devilzdandruff9199 Жыл бұрын

I’m on Xbox Series X and to call this game amazing is in itself.. amazing. Putting all the issues at launch aside (especially on PC) this game’s story is amazing to you? The combat is average, the gunplay is below average and the overall gameplay is lacking. You can’t even walk while listening to an audio file. You can’t skip story cutscenes if you want to and the enemies are cut and paste jobs, ok at best. All in all the game is all right.. it does happen to have excellent graphics and sound design. I’ll give it that.

@Monstert_ Жыл бұрын

@@devilzdandruff9199 they fixed almost every thing now

@saadiansss Жыл бұрын

Just wow look at the graphics, character model face animation the atmosphere and lightning everything is mind blowing .. playing video games since childhood but never seen this kind of graphical masterpiece

@InnuendoXP Жыл бұрын

I'm excited what this level of detail in the characters & environments means once we're thoroughly out of this cross-gen period. It's been a while where the PC & next gen consoles performance headroom has largely gone into having games look mostly the same with some higher resolution textures & tessellation you'll have to squint to notice. Good to see that changing. I'm loving the glut of high fidelity sci-fi horror games we've been getting but I'd love to see this level of fidelity in say, a new Deus Ex title. Disappointing about PC performance & the Xbox's issues but that's hopefully just a matter of waiting for some fixes & optimisations post-launch.

@rickyfelan Жыл бұрын

People talking about the Xbox like it’s not more powerful than the PS5. They literally worked with Sony on making this game, did you really think Xbox would get a fair shake???

@JaimeIsJaime Жыл бұрын

It was the visual design and motion capture studios.

@jviezzi Жыл бұрын

Honestly, aways gonna wait your review to start games. I was Liking the game in the beggining, playing at 60 FPS, but when i turned back to 30, Daaaaaaaaaaaaam, the game became só atmospheric and pretty, really loving it more. The game gets an amazing rithin in chapter 3, loving it now. Thxxx!!!

@ApurvaSukant Жыл бұрын

My friend your opinion with that example on motion blur with the fan has to be the high point of your journalistic career. You have convinced me to drop a mainstream POV on PC video game aesthetics.

@sdavidplissken Жыл бұрын

love the game. Great review. Sad some version are not running the way it should.

@kylehadyniak4648 Жыл бұрын

What an amazing review. Thank you so much, Digital Foundry, for the in-depth coverage, and it's a damn shame PC players are left with a horrible version of the game. Here's hoping the devs address these technical issues. I'll buy it then!

@omarsabeur9039 Жыл бұрын

Reviews are kinda meh too wait for a sale lol

@homelander2243 Жыл бұрын

An 8 hour linear game at $70? Not for me. I’ll wait for a sale

@phoenixforce5294 Жыл бұрын

@@homelander2243 It's $60 on steam but Yeah, the issues are front and center. I don't mind a shorter game though, it's a breath of fresh air actually.

@cryptorellyt Жыл бұрын

@@phoenixforce5294 I bought it on 30$ using Steam Argentina... hahaha games are quite cheap

@zombieimpact2790 Жыл бұрын

It was already patched a few hours after launch on PC. Now there are no stuttering issues. People are reviewing the game before the patch .

@wahfulprints9524 Жыл бұрын

Really awesome video. I appreciate all the examples, as I don't always notice everything while playing. To me, I think this is the most graphically impressive, and gross, game I've ever played

@pascal7112 Жыл бұрын

Great video as always. I wish i could support you since i'm consuming your videos frequently but i can't. So all i can do is to say: Thank You! 😊

@WayStedYou Жыл бұрын

The Stutter Protocol.

@marrow94 4 ай бұрын

Only on the PC Stutter Race!

@J.Wick. Жыл бұрын

Yes! I'm so glad you mentioned the OLED settings. HDR Off w/ SRGB selected is PERFECT for my PS5-LG B8. It makes the game far better looking IMO. I'm loving this game so fa, reviews be damned. Very much like a Dead Space/Chronicles of Riddick mash up. It doesn't do anything monumental. But it's fun, looks fantastic, and is eerily moody. Wish all versions had launched correctly. PS5 is a great version. Dark room with good speakers/headphones? You're in for a treat. Cheers.

@hogman3543 9 ай бұрын

I have b8 too lol

@ABARSI Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the heads up on the turning HDR off to get better blacks, i eas fiddling for agees with tv and in game brightness as it looks far too washed out by default, switching to SDR and using the sRGB setting looks much better contrast

@user-ik8vy1rg8f Жыл бұрын

I just spent 22 days in jail, and saw the ad for Callisto play on TV many times as a PlayStation ad. May have something to do with why it is more stable on that platform.

@bravokevin8473 Жыл бұрын

Awesome review, way more helpful than any of the terrible reviews I’ve been reading! Thank you for the astonishing work.

@ThePhenomf4 Жыл бұрын

Finally! They’re only covering the current gen systems. We can finally wave goodbye to those last gen consoles.

@jericoba Жыл бұрын

Exciting! Kudos to the design team. And, I've always preferred and liked a minimalistic HUD in games, with a few exceptions. If I can get by without an HUD element, I'd disable it.

@hiawa23 Жыл бұрын

I have been playing in performance mode motion blur off. Will change to quality mode motion blur off and see if I like that better. Will stick with performance mode on Series X.

@deepblue8143 Жыл бұрын

This is why I love DF, great job guys!

@IrishShea Жыл бұрын

I was waiting for this tech review as it would determine if I would purchase/avoid the PC version, and unfortunately it appears to be currently awful on PC, so I will have to avoid this one which is a shame, I was very much looking forward to this.

@davepianist84 Жыл бұрын

Not much to see anyway, the game is a ripoff Dead space and that one is comming soon. I'll wait for the original

@paul1979uk2000 Жыл бұрын

I was going to buy but decided to wait and maybe buy the game on sale if they fix the issues the game is having with a patch.

@poltergeist7621 Жыл бұрын

@FOUNDERZERO Жыл бұрын

Nice usage of "Multiple Personality" from Killer7's soundtrack in this review. :)

@brokensword2621 Жыл бұрын

i was going to buy this game on my pc. thanks god i saw this review first and after that i bought this game on my ps5. i played around 7 hours and the perfomance is so good so far. happy ending :))

@damienkrawczuk1435 Жыл бұрын

Good gravy, the facial graphics and expressions the lighting n atmospheric sound scape are truly breathtaking, I can not wait to pick this up next week n get stuck into it, I am truly impressed, great overview on this spectacular game digital foundry 😎

@michop21 Жыл бұрын

You guys do great work

@ArcadianGenesis Жыл бұрын

I can't believe you're recommending Quality mode *and* motion blur. I hate both of those things. It looks like someone smeared shit all over my TV screen when I use either of those, much less both. I actually thought my game was running at 40 fps in Performance mode with motion blur, because it looks so blurry. The whole point of high framerate is to eliminate that blurriness. Now I'm in performance mode with motion blur disabled, and it's so much smoother. Never going back.

@itsmorbtime2536 Жыл бұрын

Agreed the motion blur is dog shit lookin

@MrUltimateX Жыл бұрын

Well, I was really excited for this game but wanted to wait until I got a new GPU to enjoy this game in it's full visual glory. Safe to say that I will indeed be waiting for updates to the game and for a new GPU (if and when I can get my hands on one)

@MrUltimateX Жыл бұрын

@@darkshadow6556 yup, hence why I’ll be waiting for updates regardless

@Kritikal_G Жыл бұрын

Is it difficult to set up shader pre-compilation or is it just negligence? Is there some hero that could create a tool that analyzes game files and creates a shader cache for you?

@saitoXamaterasu Жыл бұрын

I am not sure shader cache depend of two things , hardware and software in this case Your gpu and your driver and can be diferent for everyone so share the same cache dont work for all pc , that is why need to be done in every pc , and that is why after a driver update you need to do another shader compilation because the driver change

@zeus1117 Жыл бұрын

You have to produce the ingame effects to be cached. Every time if you have new driver even on same PC

@jmm_ready_to_play4116 Жыл бұрын

Nice analysis 👏🏼 i am looking forward for this game.

@syntaxed2 Жыл бұрын

Finally a game that pushes shadow raytracing...I was actually surprised how good the game looked in quality mode - And oh trust me, a game like this should be run in quality mode :)

@MIGEMI Жыл бұрын

Great review as always! Callisto Protocol is a must-play but the PC performance brings me flashbacks of Batman Arkham Knight. I'll wait for a patch

@parazels83 Жыл бұрын

Or collect money on a gaming device, instead of trying to launch the game on a typewriter! Hahaha!

@kqlys7845 Жыл бұрын

@@parazels83 L, imagine calling consoles "gaming device" and pc "a typewriter" especially after pc version supposedly got sabotaged by console manufacturers 💀💀💀

@kevinmacdonald4068 Жыл бұрын

@@parazels83 these consoles are better than majority of pc players set ups.

@parazels83 Жыл бұрын

@@kevinmacdonald4068 I agree. Console is the best and the only proper gaming device.

@WarGamersChannel Жыл бұрын

Thank you guys. You just saved me $70. 😂I was going to get it for PC.

@kewinabea5439 Жыл бұрын

It runs like shit even with a 3090ti for fucks sake lol

@matthewbarrios1028 Жыл бұрын

I refunded it after 1 hour on Steam. It's pure trash. Sucks because the game seems like it can be amazing.

@ziegfeld4131 Жыл бұрын

@@kewinabea5439 Get a PS5 the best way to game

@_Mattz1nho Жыл бұрын

@@ziegfeld4131 30 fps? the best way to game?

@jack_knife-1478 Жыл бұрын

@@_Mattz1nho Yeah, PS5 is the best way to game!

@weiyunchi Жыл бұрын

Just beat the game on PS5 and had a blast. There are definitely improvements that could be made in the future but for a "new" team I think they did a great job. Looking forward to what they have in store for future titles! I give it a 7.8/10.

@matrix255 Жыл бұрын

The same issue Evil West has when using DX12, stutters every time is rendering shaders. I wonder why is so hard to precompile shaders before like Detroit Become Human did for it's PC port.

@paul1979uk2000 Жыл бұрын

Begs the question, did no one in the studio look at the mess of the port and say, this isn't release ready. It suggest a lack of care which means why should we care with parting with our money? lol.

@nukeclears Жыл бұрын

Everytime I see a game releasing on Unreal Engine as a PC player my instinct now is just "oh no"

@nexxusty Жыл бұрын

Glad to see this. Eventually we will have stutter free PC games. It only took you guys 10 years to wise up though... LOL.

@tomaszszupryczynski5453 Жыл бұрын

unreal engine was in old days performance and stability, today its a joke like fortnite

@GreggyAck Жыл бұрын

Remember Unreal Engine 2? Glorious.

@Incinerate1212 Жыл бұрын

does the same thing happen on unreal engine 5 as well?

@B3D_FPV Жыл бұрын

@@Incinerate1212 Yes, but the latest update adds automatic tools to mitigate it and more options for devs to tweak the compilation triggers and when it happens.