i have been bowling again after 20 years 3 years back i have improved my average from 167 my first season to this last season averaging 195 thanks to tips from this channel and some serious practice and equipment up grades thankyou so much

Carry down without using urethane. I've been arguing this with folks for 2 years. There is no way 100% of the oil will be absorbed by your ball. Some oil is being redistributed on every shot thrown.

Awesome video! Thanks for showing us the lane and how it’s affected. I’ll keep that all in mind as I head to my next league night

This I a great video. So many people don't know or understand what you just showed. A buddy who bowls was over and we happened to throw the PBA on, where you can see the oil. This was something that was amazing to watch happen in real time. Especially with 2 bowlers using Urethane! I hope someday that could be used as a coaching and video tool. Keep up the good work!

Brian: After just 15 minutes of two players practicing, 38 feet can resemble 40 feet. Add 6 more players and give em all urethane equipment, and all of a sudden 38 feet turns into 50 feet lol

Excellent. Best visual ive seen to explain.carry down and transition. Great job.

Been nice if you could do it with coloured oil.

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Most house shots I bowled on would dry out as they were just applying more oil on the front before each league and there was already carry down. Before one league where they stripped the lanes before they oiled them, there was no oil on the back end so that caused what you described. As a right hander, I would keep moving right the first game or two as the oil carried down. Eventually some the oil would dry and I would start moving left. Most of the alleys I bowled would strip the lanes once a week. There was always that one day each week where the lanes would score the best. This was 20 years ago so I don't know if this is still common today.

Nice video and great tips as always. Ran into transition on league last week which was drastic. Congratulations on your switch to Roto Grip.

Great tip and Shannon love the roto grip shirt congratulations on the switch

I’m a newbie at age 65 lol 😂 and I love your tips

Can you explain the difference between reactive and urethane effects this transition? Also, difference between dull and shinny surfaces?

Hello. Yes what he is saying is right. And I think of that awesome singer Carol King when I hear him talking about how lanes do change when your bowling, and that's why I don't waste money on bowling because there are no pro bowlers who are better than any other pro bowler, or even non-pro bowlers because it's a game of uncertainty which is called the uncertainty Principle devised by Heisenberg. i think of that song: It's so far-away, doesn't anybody stray in one place anymore. Well that's why I just don't need to prove anything to anybody much less some local-yocal pro-bowler like Pete Weber for instance. But I wouldn't bowl unless the lanes stayed the same all of the time because I don't really need to move continually because I like to know that if I throw a good ball it will be a Strike, and in real life it's not so i'm stuck not ever having to prove myself because it's no contest anymore. I don't need to do it unless i'm having fun. And it's okay to do it for fun so as long as your not spending much money. I haven't bought a ball in 20 years or so, so there you know where I stand. Although bowling is a game of Spares and I learned that years ago. And I guess that's because lanes change, and nobody can blame the commission for the facts that the lanes change, and I don't know whether anybody can make a lane3 that doesn't change, and I guess that remains to be seen as of yet. Also I have bowled long enough to know that carry is crucial, but the amount of carry depends upon how much oil is on the lane, or how much room you decide to give the ball based on how much oil and how slow or fast that you throw it. However once one gets that worked out then he must get that hook at the very end right to get a strike, and that's the problem. How much room, how hard to throw it, and make sure that it carries first and then hooks always because it doesn't matter if it hits brooklyn, or even through the nose, and that's because it carries and it hooks right, and thus that cancels where you hit it out because you have enough hook and carry to begin with. Well hope this helps you. I agree that carry is everything though he's right.

Wow very useful!! Everyone kept telling me this but I had no idea! That's why I'll shoot a 258 then drop to a 209!

Taking a look at the first 6 ft of the lane would be good too. I'd be interested in your opinions on how to deal with it as well. I do realize all of the variables involved makes this a tough one to answer

Exactly then multiply this by 2 teams of 5 bowlers on a pair of lanes, say all are right handed and after the first game the carry down is apparent and I end up moving right a few boards but usually add a bit of ball speed or loft the ball out a bit more and still have a nice shot!

I play that faithful down and in from the 10 board right off. But so does everyone else on my team and half the teams we bowl. Learning to really keep the elbow rotated in and stay behind the ball more and I found I have a powerful roll with little hook but more a snap at the end . For me that is keeping the ball from the 11 to the 20. Anything out side the 10 is going to scream back left because the oil is gone and their is early friction. Stay behind it and it goes longer before turning and mostly the ball is not burning up its energy and not carry. Low rev players need to concentrate their game to play in the oil more I think. You would think the opposite, but you do not always need a huge angle and a forward roll also means a little more speed and that is not always bad. Having multiple attacks angles and even balls to change to with less surface. To me it is a must if you want to really hold anything north or 200 average. Lot of good tips for us to learn from on you tube at the moment. This is just as good and even better than others. You guys have helped my average a bunch. Remember don't be afraid to move or ball placement 5 or 10 boards in.

So true. Game one OK, Game Two, Excellent, Game Three, Mediocre. That carry down can make a huge impact at the end, at least for my game, trying to catch a good line when 4 out of 6 bowlers carry the same line can make for an exciting game. For some reason my Black Widow becomes a straight ball by the third game, very difficult to get any hook out of it.

Shannon Great tip Tuesday and Congratulations on signing with Roto Grip....

So what would guys say if I didn’t have that much rev and the carry down happened, what type of ball(solid, pearl, sym, asym, etc) should I throw? 🙏

This is pretty eye opening

GREAT INFO--THANK YOU

Brilliant!!!

Great video, do some bowling balls pick up more oil than others and are we saying the oil from the front lanes get all the way down to the pins?

Wow , thanks for the explaining the oil changes on the lane , can you give any advices on which ball to use when the oil on lane starting to to move around ? I usually start with my reactive ball , then later change to urethane ball in the third game . Any advices ? I appericate it very much.

Ah my home house. :) Good job you two!

great information

But don’t the bigger dry spots on the front have more of an impact than the little bitty lines on the back end?

Bowling with a teammate who throws urethane I find it best to move right and go around his track

You guys rock as always!

Question, do you start with a weaker control ball on THS , then go to stronger balls as the night progresses, or do you go strong out of the gate, balling down as you run out of room to the left? TIA.

Would like to know what adjustments to make when bowling with a bunch of urethane bowlers. Suddenly they are everywhere. I've had some success jumping 5 boards left, but then I get trapped.

So there’s no doubt carry down exists but what’s a good adjustment to counter it? Last night I had people on my pair throwing plastic and spraying it everywhere. No matter where I played way left or way right I would wrap or flat 10. So I ball up from iq tour to phaze 4 and 4-9 stone 9 etc. didn’t know if there was a good ball for carry down or if there was a move that I didn’t try but I tried everything it felt like and I couldn’t get around it.

Would the DNA coil be a good ball to play the carry down?

While this is true for the lanes you were bowling on in this video. Am I to assume this holds true for every type of lane? Not every lane is the same brand, surface etc.. It is a big assumption to think this pertains to every lane. What about the type of balls being thrown? I think there are more variables to consider when determining the cause of carry down. Though I agree the effects are likely similar.

Fantastic video!

Welcome to Roto grip

Excellent... THank you!!!!

Noticed the RotoGrip shirt. Good move.

Of course it does, did it to myself last Tuesday and couldn't figure it out 😡

I would like to know what ball I need to be throwing after that transition occurs? The house I bowl in does not oil the lanes often and they are wood. The balls I have over react so much I am constantly on the left side of the pocket and I really struggle getting the ball right. I have moved so far left I am almost having to loft over the left gutter 🤷🏼‍♂️

His head is as smooth as a bowling ball....lol

Yes, the left side of the lane is untouched but doesn’t mean it’s easier, even with the right handers having to move. If transition always made the lanes harder then the first game for righties would statistically be the highest. But it’s not and that’s because sometimes (and especially on sport patterns in my opinion) the transition makes the lanes a lot easier giving righties an advantage over lefties.

I'm joining a league in June: 4 players per team. I bowl 4-6 games solo on non-league days. Since the center is quieter on weekdays, I am usually able to get 2 lanes for cross play. Should I instead only ask for 1 lane to try to get it to transition?

So basically Urethane and 2 handers are ruining bowling 😅

I use a solid reactive asym and I notice that after a couple games on fresh my ball loses some reaction down lane. Is that because of carry down or because my ball is now using up too much energy early where there is less oil and so it runs out of gas at the backend? Although both factors play a role, which condition makes a bigger difference?

You showed carrydown with resin balls, now show carrydown on the same pattern with urethane balls.

I like destroying the lanes with urethane so bowlers get frustrated when they leave single pins off a good pocket hit

Did I hear your now with Roto Grip?

and the tip is.... Move left 2 or 3 boards after 1/2 houre

The tip should be, move left move left move left

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I'll give you a like.... but that face in the end bro... you just about lost the like and sub.... 😆 🤣 😂

Nice video…..lousy tee shirt 😆

Bryan O'Keefe looks like he can bust out a few good dad jokes. All joking aside thanks for the vid. Also, boooooooo. Lefties have it so much easier!

Richie Lucord (Me) 2 handed Left Handed (My Teammate) Nathan Galicia 1 handed Left handed Tweener Me and my Teammate has a Hard time dealing with Carry down at league, I start with my Idol Helios at 2000 Grit on the First game I was Striking a lot and scoring High and the Second game it looked Good, at the third last game I lost it at the Bottom left a 3 pin and Flat 7 pin My Teammate Nathan He starts with his Code X and in the First game he is Striking a lot, Second game Looked OK striking some, third Game He Lost it at the Bottom Left a Bucket 3 pin 9 pin We Both Moved a couple boards out and Still Labored down lane or Ran into Early Friction Give Both of us some tips on how to deal with carry down or our balls are starting to Burn up and they are Laboring

That wasn't much of a tip

Shannon doing her best to pretend like she has no idea what he's talking about 😂

Completely obvious to any decent league bowler!

What a horrible tip