Does Dragons Dogma 2 deserve a "MIXED" rating? **An impression after 40 hours**

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NihilisticNerd

NihilisticNerd

Күн бұрын

Dragons Dogma 2 has been a long awaited sequel to a cult Classic JRPG. Somehow Capcom managed to screw up the launch. but how bad did they botch the launch?
Outro song: Into Free Dragon's Dogma OST
Chapters:
00:00 intro
00:51 The Ballad of Zod Howard + initial impressions
13:56 Deeper impressions
18:36 the "DLC"
20:30 closing thoughts
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@DANBAN119
@DANBAN119 26 күн бұрын
I know nothing of Dragons Dogma 2, I only got this because I saw the controversy and saw people defending it and got curious myself, and I can say confidently it is one of my top games now. People are throwing a fit over nothing, yes microtransactions are bad and super annoying, but they are also USELESS in this game, you can get like 5,000RC from just running around for a few hours, and capcom has always had micro transactions in most games, Dragons Dogma 1 as it turns out, HAD MICROTRANSACTIONS. I don't believe the people complaining that Capcom lied and deceived people by not mentioning them, because IT WAS OBVIOUS THERE WOULD BE SOME, they didn't need to tell us because they've been doing it! The only fault I'd give the game is the shit PC launch, which was unplayable for most people. and the game being locked at 30fps is divisive, it's not the biggest deal for me personally, but I can understand why people who paid for a $70 game would expect 4k 60fps.
@d3knot
@d3knot 23 күн бұрын
The pawn system, combat and world exploration (the design) is really where it shines. Any other aspects is garbage or mediocre at best.
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 21 күн бұрын
To be honest that was kind of how the original was too. The combat in the pawn system were fantastic, whereas lore and storytelling were middling at best. Even then, still a very enjoyable game.
@reyntime1950
@reyntime1950 24 күн бұрын
Materials, hey? I shan't deny they have their uses.
@wakeydreams4888
@wakeydreams4888 28 күн бұрын
I see where all of your time went with editing. Honestly great video, makes me want to try dd2 👀
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 27 күн бұрын
Thanks bro, I wasn't super happy with the audio. I didn't have time to sound proof my room. Give the game a couple months and it will hopefully be more stable. (and possibly on sale.)
@dmonsterlove
@dmonsterlove 27 күн бұрын
Almost 180 hrs I'm loving it. All that matters to me. MY GOTY
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 27 күн бұрын
Helldiver's 2 and this releasing so close to each other has ruined my 2024. How does anyone plan to top these two games?
@dmonsterlove
@dmonsterlove 27 күн бұрын
@@nihilisticnerd they can't. If helldiver 2 wasn't a strictly live service game, and strictly PS5 it would be GOTY. But honestly it SHOULDN'T win GOTY because I KNOW it's gonna be the hottest live service until GTA 6 online
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 27 күн бұрын
@@dmonsterlove yeah I'm worried about that too. Even respectable studios can get hindered by corpo BS and investor pressure.
@edbdavis4
@edbdavis4 23 күн бұрын
Capcom should cut you a check for that freaking awesome bit you put together at the end of the video. You really have a talent for this! Subbed!🎉🎉🎉🎉
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 21 күн бұрын
Thanks! That means a lot to me. I think that was my favorite part of the video to make.
@7Zealot
@7Zealot Күн бұрын
Hearing "Into Free" at the end gave me that bittersweet happy feeling, kind of like how I feel about this game. I don't like a lot of the little changes from the first game, but I am so happy we even got a DD2. And I did enjoy it...just not as much as I hoped (speaking as a massive fan of the first game). I even kind of hoped we might get "Into Free" back as an act of love to us giga fans, but alas, I was found to be a fool, as I frequently am. Thanks for including it in your video, along with your very fair and well-considered take on the game.
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd Күн бұрын
There was no way I could not include into free in this video.
@reyntime1950
@reyntime1950 24 күн бұрын
Man you pulling out all the hot jams. 8bit into freeeeeee and Phantasy Star 2 music. I really enjoy dragon's dogma 2. Sure it could be better but I've been No-lifeing this since launch.
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 21 күн бұрын
Thanks bro. I'm a older gamer so I appreciate the old school soundtracks of yesteryear. Huge shout out to the guy that made the 8-Bit intro for into free as well. I have that in my description.
@panoctic
@panoctic 27 күн бұрын
monster spawn in city is not a bug is a feauture lol. also i think the combat is fine but gets too easy overtime to the point you feel you steam roll anything. my first drake kill was so silly that felt like a cheat, mounted with the thief then spam that heart with kisses lol. there is no challenge after the initial hours game lacks that. also i liked more grigori sorry the dragon this time around sucks is not given proper time to shine.
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 27 күн бұрын
Yeah, I've certainly noticed in mid to late game that the reason why I've been dying a lot isn't because fights are particularly difficult, but more or less that I've overstayed my welcome in the outside world and let my maximum HP get to like 150.
@TheHOTD10
@TheHOTD10 26 күн бұрын
the way guards and townsfolk speak of monsters in cities i thought that was ajusta mechanic
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 26 күн бұрын
I've heard from other people that it was a mechanic. I'm on the fence because if it was it feels like it was poorly executed.
@BrandonHilikus
@BrandonHilikus 28 күн бұрын
I had fun with it but considering the price rather short mind you I didnt do every side quest and max out all vocations. I got like almost 50 hours out of it (48.5)
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 27 күн бұрын
60 dollars is a tough asking price already, 70 Dollars is even worse. I'm 40 hours in and I feel like I'm nearing endgame. I wonder if replayability is even a thing here.
@Zephy_Sky
@Zephy_Sky 26 күн бұрын
It's definitely one of those games where if you just focus story and a couple side quests. Definitely not worth the price. But if you enjoy exploring, being a completionist, building up your pawns knowledge and getting their medals so they are more useful for other players, plan to go through ng+, etc, then it definitely is worth the price
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 26 күн бұрын
Ah, I forgot about new game + I remember reading about it somewhere else now.
@grege5074
@grege5074 27 күн бұрын
Kudos to the Capcom marketing team. They convinced casual gamers that this game was for them, sold it to them, knowing the entire time that there were features that they were going to hate. A masterclass in deception and money taking ability. The mixed reviews come from people who thought they were getting an updated Skyrim, but got a Japanese take on Western Fantasy.
@kevinvu5432
@kevinvu5432 27 күн бұрын
There's also the dragon's dogma 1 purist that claim they love dragons dogma 1 but only remember their NG+ experience and the Butterblsck isles expansion.
@grege5074
@grege5074 27 күн бұрын
@@kevinvu5432 that is true, and remember BBI came with the eternal ferrystone so all the “lack of fast travel” wasn’t an issue
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 27 күн бұрын
The funny thing is that originally I had intended this video to be a compare and contrast of Skyrim/Bethesda RPGs in general. But I would have had to invest a lot more time into it cuz I'd have to play at least 40 hours of Skyrim, so I'd have a proper way to compare the two... I didn't want to do that. I also I felt like if I can clear up any of the microtransaction misconceptions that would help. I don't know if I really did a good job of doing that to be honest with you.
@OmegaSutol
@OmegaSutol 24 күн бұрын
On note of Capcoms history of microtransactions, in another case as bad as Asuras Wrath, the original Launch versions of Dragons Dogma were incompatable with the Dark Arisen expansion and the game would have to be repurchased at full price for all of us who supported the game from Day One
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 24 күн бұрын
That's heinous. Capcom does some of the stupidest shit.
@sugarmelody4264
@sugarmelody4264 26 күн бұрын
The game is good but holy shit how they manage to make it run very bad on every platform is beyond me
@disaster2217
@disaster2217 27 күн бұрын
17:30 thats not a bug but somting thats supose to happen wild monster raid towns imo makes game feel bit more alive then on this place got this monster end only spawn thare kinda deal plus if npc die you can always res them or skip 7 to 10 days end a thay will respawn or get a replace mend npc
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 27 күн бұрын
That's supposed to happen? Everytime it's happened for me they just kind of popped into the city rather than an actual "raid" One of time I was literally in the middle of talking to Sven (early quest when he's trying to pay you back for buying the box) and a single goblin appeared and started trying to kill me. Since I was in the cinematic portion nothing happened. 🤣
@disaster2217
@disaster2217 26 күн бұрын
@@nihilisticnerd lol oh no every time it happen dto me was when i walked in to the city end then happen to see some orger en a small horde of goblins 5 to 6 even a dragon once ... XD
@malakai_adam
@malakai_adam 26 күн бұрын
FLYYYYING INTO FREEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Excaliwolf2
@Excaliwolf2 27 күн бұрын
Dude. You missed the mark, when Zods friend calls you the Arisen, you should have said "Something smells fishy, and it isnt the brine".
@phaseraserful
@phaseraserful 28 күн бұрын
Looks like a good time
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 27 күн бұрын
It's a solid game I've enjoyed my time with it.
@kaz7886
@kaz7886 27 күн бұрын
Played almost 200 hours. As a fan of the first game.. this one is a 9, first one.. i love it so much more, but still a 9. Everyone has their opinions and these 2 games remain in my top 5, counting i played most action rpgs, all soulslikes, turn-based rpgs and mostly fantasy games.. i gotta say thank you Itsuno. I don't care much about critics, the flaws are overshadowed by what i like about the game, even if the story is ass and superficial, the Lore keeps me going.
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 27 күн бұрын
No game is a 10 unless you're a fanboy IMO.
@kaz7886
@kaz7886 26 күн бұрын
@@nihilisticnerd Yeah. We all give different value to the same things. My only 10 is Xenoblade Chronicles 3. That game literally changed my life, and i would call myself a fanboy of it.
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 26 күн бұрын
@@kaz7886 Solid choice, Xenoblade is one of my favourite RPG series, Though my favourite is the original and X.
@kaz7886
@kaz7886 26 күн бұрын
@@nihilisticnerd Great as well, too much time passed since X, we need a remake or a sequel 🙏🏻
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 26 күн бұрын
Maybe for switch 2 we'll get a sequel *huffs more copium.*
@IYVNI
@IYVNI 27 күн бұрын
Aint it just the same game ? With like 27 new features and 34 features taken away ?
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 27 күн бұрын
It definitely does share much in common with the original and yes it does remove some features. However, I personally feel most of the new features and the reworking of the old features are still enjoyable. The only old feature I really miss is the old clothing system which had more options. I'd still wait a few months to see if they fix the performance issues.
@inkmage4084
@inkmage4084 27 күн бұрын
The microtransactions were not a thing for me... The stuff is not only dirt cheap, but it isn't even needed. The performance issue is a thing, though I didn't notice it honestly. Though I do love the game, the issues I have with it.... Too easy, way too easy. They claimed this game would be harder than the first... It's not. The gear was handled better and looked cooler in the first game. They said they didn't want people going for the same gear... You do pretty much. Everfall was so much better than Unmoored World, as was the gear you found, way more fun and challenging. I wish they brought over many elements from the MMO DD, like the way the housing was done, the pawn crafting things for you while you're offline. Would have been nice to see your pawns bring things back, as I've seen my pawn walking around the world, when I was on my friend's account. 🤣 "Tiddy birds" Also like the PS2 music weeeee
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 27 күн бұрын
My performance issues weren't as bad as others from what I understand. I wouldn't call them "game breaking." in any sense of the term. I haven't gotten to "Unmoored World" yet and I'll be 100% honest, I barely did anything regarding the Everfall in DD1. From what I remember the Everfall part ramped up difficulty and made crazier large monsters appear. I hope Unmoored World does that at least. I never had a chance to play the MMO but I wish they would have brought over some of those sick looking classes. a large DLC like Dark arisen is a DLC I can get behind.
@inkmage4084
@inkmage4084 27 күн бұрын
@@nihilisticnerd Yeah, I really hope they bring in some stuff from the MMO, it's rumored that they are, would be so nice if true. ^_^
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 27 күн бұрын
@@inkmage4084 It depends on execution there. As long as it's built as either free content or a fully fleshed out expansion pack. I'm not paying 10.99 for a single fucking class. I don't foresee that being how it's done but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't wary.
@inkmage4084
@inkmage4084 26 күн бұрын
@@nihilisticnerd Yup 😆
@praisetheoak
@praisetheoak 23 күн бұрын
I have over 205hrs, 100% achievements and 5 playthroughs. Still plenty of unique quests, outcomes and dialogue that I missed. I think the biggest issue of this game is that after a decade, we were expecting Dragon's Dogma 2 but got Dragon's Dogma 1.5 instead. I love the game and in my heart it is a 10/10, but I can see and point out the many, many flaws that plague the title and why it might be more of a 7/10 objectively. All of the systems and mechanics from the first title finally got polished and implemented in a finished state, so that is a huge step forward, yet all of the content, systems, lore and design stuff from Dark Arisen got completely scraped and ignored, so in that way it feels like a huge step backwards. I wouldn't recommend this game to anyone who didn't play the original or didn't like it, since it is an almost word for word repeat of the highest highs and the lowest lows of the first one. So if you loved the original, you'll LOVE this one, but if you hated it, well... I found 80% of the online criticism to be just dumb since lots of people finishing it in 30/40hrs are making lots of outright false and defamatory claims/statements about the game because they essentially skipped through the entirety of it just to get to the finish line, missing basically 80% of the content in the process. To put it into perspective, you can finish the game in 4hrs if you know what to do and where to go, the remaining 95% is optional and up to the player to engage with it. Enjoy the journey, the finish line is NOT the real destination.
@Garl_Vinland
@Garl_Vinland 26 күн бұрын
Yes it’s that bad. I don’t even care about the micro transactions or the performance. As is, the game feels unfinished at worst and a downgrade from the first game at best. Its strengths of course, is the early game when you’re discovering new monsters and hunting them in real time. But as you get stronger, and enemies start to repeat themselves, and this feeling turns into a grind. A grind that inevitably doesn’t reward you since you quickly get a surplus of every “ rare” upgrade material, and the game basically hands you every item if you have the gold to buy it, which you soon will, so there’s also no incentive to explore. The worst is the narrative the game provides. There are more cities but they feel emptier than grand Soren. The quests feel 25 years out of date and don’t give you anything good. The dialogue and characters are generic and bland. I actually thought Captain Brant was secretly evil because he just lays out his intentions so plainly on the table, in public no less! The forced diversity and the same accent carrying over every aspect of society and region makes everything feel fake. There are role playing mechanics like brothels and houses that simply don’t do anything but waste your one resource: gold. The pawn guild got a huge downgrade, in favor of adding the worst feature you can add in open world games: collectathon seeker tokens. Something you should only add after everything else. The quests are antithetical to the core gameplay experience: hunting monsters. And have you instead doing tail missions, fetch quests, and broken eavesdropping in a big unfinished castle with janky stealth. Once you reach Batahl, the game shits itself and all narrative caddance just disappears, like they ran out of a budget. They throw a bunch of random incoherant end game trailer moments at you, and then the game abruptly ends. There is no everfall, instead they dry up the ocean so you can “explore” that, although it’s oddly more hallway simulator than ever. And there are no new enemies other than two bosses who are glitched btw and they only have one attack each. And a literal joke asset that just sits in one place and spawns goblins. It feels actively unfinished. Not even just flawed like the first game was at launch
@MonkeyManwithaMonkeyPlan
@MonkeyManwithaMonkeyPlan 27 күн бұрын
I will say something a bit controversial. It's good infact great. Most fun I had this year. But...I still perfer Dark Arisen. Heck After sinking in 140 hrs into this game I went on to play Dark Arisen.
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 27 күн бұрын
Interesting, I think there are some things the original did better. Especially what I know. This is the armor system in the original. Had more customization. But until I play through the rest of the game, I don't want to make any more assumptions.
@Zephy_Sky
@Zephy_Sky 26 күн бұрын
I can agree with this. But it's important to keep in mind that the proper comparison to make would be dd1 base game and dd2. Bitterblack isle is dlc and did so much to improve the first game. I'm hopeful that dd2 dlc will be even better
@ShinKamaitachi
@ShinKamaitachi 27 күн бұрын
I spent 200+ hours by now playing the f****** game. No, it's not a bad game it's hard to put down for some reason, just like the last game dark arisen.
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 27 күн бұрын
The only reason I'm at 45 hours in game is I was taking the time to make this video (and also moving to a new apartment. 🤣
@DoctorDeadfgc
@DoctorDeadfgc 28 күн бұрын
How dare you review my game…I’ll have to rewatch when I’m actually into forty hours of gameplay…🤬🤓
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 28 күн бұрын
Ha ha. I'm looking forward to hearing your opinion when the time comes.
@DoctorDeadfgc
@DoctorDeadfgc 21 күн бұрын
@@nihilisticnerd a tenth of the way there. Actually playing rpg games. Once I get a handheld it’s over. 😂
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 21 күн бұрын
@@DoctorDeadfgc I don't know if the game is steam deck compatible. lol
@DoctorDeadfgc
@DoctorDeadfgc 20 күн бұрын
@@nihilisticnerd cries man tears
@ShxpxRok
@ShxpxRok 26 күн бұрын
if you don't want people to not want to fast travel try not giving your npcs repetitive dialogue Pawns should have been loaded with content they're one of the best things about this game, give us more than 5 enemy types no making the bird stun me instead of putting me to sleep is not a new enemy type it's just a harpy with extra steps. the game also has a thing for taking control away from the character if I get grabbed by a ogre or cyclops I should be able to shake out being downed should also have a free yourself mech and there should be a stun immunity timer so you don't get combo'd endlessly. game needs 3 times the enemies that it has even the ones at night are basically just bandits to be acceptable Capcom has the resources and the materials people liked monster hunter you've already showed you are willing to take assets from monster hunter with the dragon's roar it's basically pitch shifted Nergigante roar hell the griffin is a pitch shifted huggy / kissy from poppy play time
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 26 күн бұрын
Yeah, I really wish they had added at least more 5 small monster and big monster archetypes with 2 to 3 subvariants each. I think the subvarients of the monsters is a smart and cost effective but it takes away from the world and the game itself because there are still so few archetypes. it can work but they still need to have that initial variety.
@tavoroda7916
@tavoroda7916 27 күн бұрын
Its a good game, but as a fan, i lost interest fast
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 27 күн бұрын
May I ask why?
@FukoffDick
@FukoffDick 28 күн бұрын
Better late then never:)
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 28 күн бұрын
Super late but oh well.
@FukoffDick
@FukoffDick 28 күн бұрын
​@@nihilisticnerd was a really good video tho
@Kreyowitz
@Kreyowitz 28 күн бұрын
Pretty solid review, as someone who's wayyy to into the first game, and put a shit ton of time into this, including maxing all vocations (Except Trickster, I'll do that later.) and getting the true ending, glad to see that it wasn't just shit on because of Capcoms shitty dlc shit they've BEEN doing since Asura' Wrath and even DMC 5. As much as I love the game, I agree on waiting until there a few patches out for performance.
@nihilisticnerd
@nihilisticnerd 27 күн бұрын
The DLC is bad, but the game itself is Amazing aside from performance. Those two issues don't make it a "bad game" anyone who says that is just farming for clout.
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