Does The J Rockett 'The Jeff' Archer Sound Like Mick's Klon Centaur? [Or The Regular Archer?]
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8 ай бұрынAnd does anyone still care? We kinda do…
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• 1990s Klon Centaur
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@Matteope99 8 ай бұрын
I agree so much with Noel. Taking a second to show the amps and their settings is a step up.
@VintageRadius 8 ай бұрын
Your klon is a special beast, Mick. Love you guys are mixing in the shorter format for stuff like this
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! We'll ask some more interesting questions as time goes on. Hahaha. Even I'm sick of comparing Klons. Gagaga!
@JHKNVY02 17 күн бұрын
@@ThatPedalShowLove this format and the short format!
@buzzcrumhunger7114 8 ай бұрын
Loving this format, and these shorter videos that actually have pedals in them! Marvelous! 🎉 Cheers, Gents!
@willgoodfellow3144 8 ай бұрын
I won a Jeff Archer in a competition. It's the only thing ive ever won and its been on my board for the last 18 months. Its awesome.
@godbyone 8 ай бұрын
I have 2 becks. One regular. I think beck has softer drive. Cleaner. Overall. What do u think ?
@ryand5251 8 ай бұрын
A 335 and a klon (or klon style pedal) is truely something magical 👌
@zisme 8 ай бұрын
Love these short format videos - a pleasant surprise between VCQ and Friday shows! I've just begun exploring Klon sounds via a Stewmac Ghost Drive kit build that a friend recently assembled for me. So far, so good!
@Dang... 8 ай бұрын
Thank you. I enjoyed the shorter video format. While I ALWAYS enjoy your videos, I often don't have enough time to watch the longer ones. Great work as always!
@nigelvonshredman 8 ай бұрын
I love me a straightforward OD pedal comparison TPS vid. Thank you for your time gentlemen. Very enjoyable.
@fiddlix 8 ай бұрын
They all sound great in their own right. I love these short formats mid-week. Great job Dan and Mick. Kudos..!
@kenerb8249 8 ай бұрын
Thank You Thank You Thank You... I have been using my Archer for a clean boost since I got it. Leaving the overdrive for my magic green pedal. Played around with a higher overdrive setting on the Archer this afternoon and I love it. Love your channel.
@AD-kv9kj Ай бұрын
Ooooh, so it's the Jeff (Beck) Archer! I was wondering for a while if it was meant to be the Jeffrey Archer 😂
@Leychen 8 ай бұрын
I like that short&focused look at a smaller topic without giving up the TPS vibe!
@southpaw335 8 ай бұрын
I do like this mid-week short sharp (and straight to the point) format for a bit of fun. Just the thing to keep us sane before we have more time on the weekend for a TPS tangent or two. I remember well that first Klon episode that began this shenanigans we call TPS, where does the time go? Thanks for all the years of content and inspiration you Leg-ends
@igordemoraeslenzi 8 ай бұрын
I love the short mid week videos mixed with the long ones on Friday! Personally, I took a long road to discover that I’m not really into Klons. They sound very nasal to my ears.
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Same as Dan!
@martintaylor1701 8 ай бұрын
@@ThatPedalShowI thought that was just the accent.
@hoboroadie4623 8 ай бұрын
I don't really do the Drive thing much, but I am thinking that I need to get a couple of Klons, if only to find out that they are redundant. Inquiring minds need to know.
@igordemoraeslenzi 8 ай бұрын
@@hoboroadie4623 I highly recommend the Ryra Klone for the traditional Klone sound and a tumnus mini for a more modern Klon sound. The archer is also great.
@onenotesolo256 8 ай бұрын
Agree on the Klon - I have an old one and have owned some of the klones, and the only time it makes sense to me is in a band context when you need to pop in the mix. Even then, i prefer to stack it with something less honky for me to enjoy it. For home/practise, way too nasally. Obviously some great players have used them very successfully. But then I don’t really like Tubescreamers either - the OE Halcyon being the exception, at its least tubescreamerish settings.
@godawg1023 8 ай бұрын
I like this format a lot! Much more succinct comparisons without the deep dive into the history which you’ve already covered, generally. (Maybe just adding a link to relevant previous videos is enough for the new listeners?)
@michaelgabel981 8 ай бұрын
Excellent show! Very informative and love the truncated format!
@rowbags3017 8 ай бұрын
I love the way our eyes influence what we hear! Using headphones all the way, I watched the video and thought I heard clear differences many times. After I'd given my ears a chance to forget, I ran it again "blind" while I read the comments... Result: I missed a lot of the changes I'd picked up on previously.
@DRChevalier 8 ай бұрын
I am very pleased by these short very tight videos that are focused on pedals. In this case, each pedal sounds great and in a live setting in a bar or pub or auditorium with all the other elements that have an effect on sound, no one in the audience will hear a difference, nor will they care. And in a studio, your fingers and pick attack will have much more impact than which Klon or Klone is in the chain, and that is if you are using loops to isolate the pedals in your chain. Most folks don't Thank you as always Health and success to you both
@Johnnybananass-_ 8 ай бұрын
J Rocket were making the KTR clones for bill Finnegan before a falling out so they know the inside of the con well and the theory of the designer behind it, they took the KTR and made it better to their mind
@godbyone 8 ай бұрын
My Jeff archer. Is a tad cleaner than a klon. I think. Jeff wanted a tad. Cleaner.
@jonathananderson3897 8 ай бұрын
Being the guitar geek I am. I bought some 1n34a diodes and put them in a standard archer. I prefer it to the jb which has d9 diodes in. But I did have to pay to have them installed. The d9 doesn't clip quiet as hard. I also found the standard archer was way louder which will be because the standard diodes aren't germanium.
@scottcurry4116 8 ай бұрын
Love shows like this. Thanks Gents. J Rocket makes nice pedals. I have The Lenny. I got a Tumnus instead of the Archer after a previous TPS episode. But now I want to try The Jeff and the Archer.
@mattgilbert7347 8 ай бұрын
I love it when Mick plays through a Fender amp. That DRRI & his Two-Rock are a beautiful match. The klons really make Dan's Tele even more of a beast. *Great* tones. Fender guitars+ Fender amp + Klon = winner! To my ears the "Jeff" sounded a bit "fatter". A little less of an upper-mid nose, puts back a little of the lower-mids.
@smwatson1512 8 ай бұрын
I just bought a Wampler Tumnus on a whim and now this. Great timing!
@RodClark 8 ай бұрын
this is exactly what I needed this morning. thanks guys
@sroelit 8 ай бұрын
Nice to begin a morning here in the states with a TPS video.
@crimsonwring2723 8 ай бұрын
In the Jeff version I can hear a bit more of a lean into his ability to make a guitar sound like it’s talking. It is thinner sounding for a flat pick rock style of playing, but there’s something “human” in some of the notes you hit that your Klon and the regular Archer don’t have.
@alexlewis8468 8 ай бұрын
I know I've got a cold and listening through YT on a mobile phone, but I can't hear that much between them to make a sonic difference in a mix or live situation. Only consideration would be feel I suppose. Love this mid-week short format addition to the long form - cheers chaps!
@m0j0b0ne 8 ай бұрын
There's no difference that you couldn't make up for at the amp; certainly not enough to matter on a bar gig. Running a big amp wide open might reveal something we don't hear here, but obviously even if so, there's not four thousand dollars' worth of difference.
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Would be hard to find anyone to disagree with that!
@godbyone 8 ай бұрын
My friend s family owned a huge music store. . I asked what did🎉 he think of Jimmy page s. Special pick up pull and pull switch s tone volume. Etc And should I get it. He goes you will like it. But at a club. Only you and me would probably notice that I pulled up on volume knob or tone .
@enricopallazzoofficial 8 ай бұрын
Great episode guys. The original standard silver Archer still sound great. If you guys want to try a true really really cool sounding Klon variant, check the CKK SHXC pedal. It kicked my silver Archer out of my board.
@howloudcaniget 8 ай бұрын
It saved me from getting the JB! Sold my Centura quite a while ago but started missing it. Got a Silver Horse Mosky but still trying to dial good tones out of it (sounded pretty good in JHS comparison so I’m giving an extra effort). Thanks!
@victorramirez1652 8 ай бұрын
Love mine, if it’s enough for JB & JM then it’s enough for me. Thank you guys good job as always.
@fenrirsghost2051 8 ай бұрын
Well spoken ☝
@jackgreenwood1817 8 ай бұрын
I'm surprised how different each pedal's fundamental sound is. I have a KTR that I adore - started out using it as a clean boost but now it is on all the time as I love the kick in the mids. My '67 Bassman appreciates the extra mids. Cool, short video. 👍
@jasfiona 8 ай бұрын
Loved that. This is a much better format for me. Thanks guys. Having watched it back at least twice, I think it would have been an idea to use one amp, or the other. Most, (so at least 51%), don't use two amps on stage
@brianleecooper1814 8 ай бұрын
agreed
@joshwaterfield4882 8 ай бұрын
I can’t comment on Klon comparisons, but I will say the JB is the best overdrive I’ve ever had the pleasure of owning. It has a focus and articulation that I’ve yet to experience elsewhere. Nice shootout, guys!
@lukerodgers4323 8 ай бұрын
I agree. I’ve tried to take it off my board multiple times but it always sounds better than any other od pedal
@alexbales2067 8 ай бұрын
Loving these mini midweek episodes
@thesongwritersjourney 8 ай бұрын
I have a "The Jeff" on my board and its main purpose is to thicken up single coils. I am not a huge fan of strong mids, so the revelation that The Jeff is slightly less mids, earlier clipping, and enhanced highs [than a normal Klon, assuming Micks is "normal" ] leads me to believe I made the right choice. Also, love these "small bites" videos - much easier to digest in a busy day than the whole meal, but the whole meal is great when I have time.
@godbyone 8 ай бұрын
I have both. 2Jeff and 1 regular. I noticed on Jeff’s. The gain was. Softer overall on both were tad cleaner. Did u noticed that ?
@thesongwritersjourney 8 ай бұрын
@@godbyone I'd say yes to softer, but I haven't done a side-by-side comparison with a "normal" Klon. I tend to run the Klon as a thickener/boost (low gain) at unity and not as an overdrive.
@chrisjones8592 8 ай бұрын
I own a gold long tail Klon and also the JRockett JB Archer. I love them both. I use the Klon to add that little extra sparkle to an already great sounding amp. The JB I find is a little more usable in more scenarios. I love them both. The Klon however is the best sounding overdrive pedal I have ever used.
@AaronBohlman 8 ай бұрын
Always enjoy Dan's 'sizzle' hand gesture 😂
@Spuzzmacher 8 ай бұрын
Man what a coincidence staring me in the face on here today. My friend Jeff Archer started and ran the Mountain Bike Museum of Art & Technology (a huge museum of vintage bikes, advocacy, and charity events, and was sadly killed by a drunk driver while crossing the street a few years back. You never know when the universe is just going to remind you of your favorite people gone.
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Ah man, sorry to hear about your friend. It’s a reminder to live it, people.
@IamMusicNerd 8 ай бұрын
I always go with the Tumnus Deluxe for the closest Klon sounds, because it’s the only one with a 3 band EQ and a hard/soft clip toggle, so you can dial it in much closer than most Klon clones.
@Walkerbjj 8 ай бұрын
I think the Tumnus is the best as well. There's no true "klon" sound as they all have subtle differences (that i've played atleast). But for the general overall sound of Klons, the Tumnus has been the best i've played and heard in videos.
@imacashew. 8 ай бұрын
I love my tumnus Wampler makes good stuff. 👍🏻
@domagojzagorac6186 8 ай бұрын
Origin Effects Halcony gold!
@danielbrunner5878 8 ай бұрын
I was at the music store comparing regular vs Deluxe Tumnus and though the deluxe can do more, the regular just had THE sound right. I think it’s something in the bass that gets diluted in the Deluxe
@DickFitzwellJr 8 ай бұрын
@@danielbrunner5878the tumnus deluxe was the last favorite of the klones I've tried. The Q on the eq bands was just strange. Made the mids...nasally or cocked wah sounding. The regular Tumnus got it right!
@jambroish 8 ай бұрын
Interesting what you said about 'more screamer like'. I run a TS808 into a silver Archer for the drive section. You can use either to shape the tone and then drive with the other. I only use both for drive when using a 1978 strat because it's pups are thin enough to use crazy drive without the flub
@sheerheartattack6701 8 ай бұрын
Noel! That Klon is sweet! Great show Guys, thank you!
@paulwatson8809 8 ай бұрын
Great, as always. Maybe a silicon vs germanium vs LED clipping demo would lend itself to the short format. Plenty of pedals give you this choice. Personally I prefer a mix of green and blue LEDs (or even better, no diodes at all). I like more headroom and less compression generally.
@vincerago7420 8 ай бұрын
The closes tthing I had come across to the silver nonhorsie Klon I had was the Archer Jeff Mod. Never thought about selling it until I tried a Decibelics. Sold off the Klon and did a much appreciated kitchen update with the cash and haven't looked back
@edwardjons8684 8 ай бұрын
Great little demo. Would love to hear a dual pedal shootout comparing the originals to a dual equivalent, such as the Klon and Marshall bluesbreaker up against the Nordvang 83, for example, or Duellist vs ts etc, but I guess that will have to wait on the 83 or Klon fatigue is going to set in fast. Maybe Nordvangs new expanded ts vs the Origin effects ts vs an original TS10 and 808?
@Kurjistaja 8 ай бұрын
3:07 ROCK! 💪
@chrisnichols4077 7 ай бұрын
All three are superb’ but the Klon just has that slightly thicker and smoother tone’… fantastic video guys’ ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@subrosablues 8 ай бұрын
Admittedly I haven't sampled a lot of Klones, and definitely not the J Rockett stuff, but one thing that made the difference for me when landing on a real Klon (KTR) beyond the sound of the pedal was the "feel under the fingers"; there's a subtle compression in the Klon, both clean and with some drive dialed in that I can't explain other than it feels good to play and I notice differences in when trying Klones (such as the Wildwood Mjolnir). Do you recall anything in that area from making this video, in regards to that aspect of the pedals?
@robbieredball 8 ай бұрын
Bought the standard archer after watching your old vid. Never had a chance to smell an original Klon to tell the difference. Might give it a shot if I win the lottery (unlikely as I don't buy a ticket). Its going back on the board tomorrow!
@hafstrat 8 ай бұрын
I have a Tumnus deluxe. In the Klon zone. On its own it’s thin sounding. But before a nobels odr mini and it sweetens the sound with some tasty upper. mids.
@HeikkiRHackman 8 ай бұрын
Just bought The Archer second hand 130 euros. Not yet have had time properly run it out loud, will do that tomorrow. Waiting for it!
@stanislavmigra 8 ай бұрын
Congratts Micks, your Klon is piece of art. None of those sounds that Articulate and open. The used market price is for another debate
@JHKNVY02 17 күн бұрын
Love this! Let’s do an Ibanez Mostortion vs Karma MTN-10 vs Wampler Mofetta. Keep up the great work!
@Benz2112 8 ай бұрын
The Jeff is my pick, it just sounds airy and crisp, which is my idealized Klon style tone.
@compucorder64 8 ай бұрын
I heard that the JB had that sharper top end. Which would be quite nice and cutting in an indie rock situation. But it adds a touch of brittleness, I don't exactly like, compared to the Klon, which is more pleasant. Maybe this is why lots of people (including me) really like the Wampler Tumnus. It's definitely a thicker sounding variation, rather than trying to be a klone. Agree with the comment about why not use the Klon as a killer overdrive. It's a nice boost, but so is an Xotic EP booster (for sharp), Keeley Katana (for smooth) or any number of relatively affordable pedals. But the Klon overdrive is it's own thing.
@stefanbo3620 8 ай бұрын
The klon style is great for the clean boosty stuff, but fire when you push a crunchy marshall over the cliff
@robertwoodhall4203 8 ай бұрын
I have had a silver archer since they came out and it does sound good but introduces so much hiss even though it’s on its own loop in a quartermaster.
@andsoistopped 8 ай бұрын
It’s a this point that I wish to point out that it’s likely that Mr Marr and Mr G will probably watch this. Insane.
@tommurphy3188 6 ай бұрын
OG for me closely followed by the JB Would love to hear a comparison between the horsey and the warm audio centavo? Great as always gentlemen
@allengoeddey2719 8 ай бұрын
Never tried the silver one. But, I run a gold Archer into my Marshall. Tried different screamers, and others. My gold Archer hasn’t left my pedal board.
@darrencunningham4782 8 ай бұрын
Did you guys see The Studio Rats episode on the Fender Concert amp. I thought it sounded incredible but I had never heard of it before. Do you guys have any experience with it? And why does it not get more recognition?
@PhilthyCasual 8 ай бұрын
In my experience, the Klon thing is basically tight overdrive that isn't mushy. Dozens of other overdrives can get similar results by balancing the gain and output pots so that it's not too fizzy. Low volume applications are not where the Klon circuit shines.
@lukerodgers4323 8 ай бұрын
Had my jb archer for a while and it beats any overdrive I compare it to EXCEPT I never turn the gain lower than 2 o’clock . I think it really shines between 2-3 and can be cleaned up beautifully with volume knob
@djay6651 8 ай бұрын
The fact that someone would spend $5k+ on a drive pedal and only use it as a clean boost is absolute madness. Get a Tube Screamer or an SD-1 if you're gonna do that. The Centaur is a really good drive.
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
The fact someone would spend $5k on a drive pedal for ANY tonal application is absolute madness. It’s an investment at this point, nothing more. I paid £350 for mine I think.
@richardames5215 8 ай бұрын
Great vid. If you really wanted to compare these "apples to apples" you could "calibrate" them against each other. small differences in the way the knobs were mounted or manufacturing variables could result in minor differences even though the knobs might look like they were set at the same level. that's really minor though, they all sound great.
@rodrigopolicarpo8377 8 ай бұрын
Tuesday video! 🎉 NPD for me today: you guys made me get a Future Factory. The delay is superb, but the flanger and chorus in there are SO good. AND I can still use the delay on the second delay line. Thank you guys so much - I got the idea to use the delay as a modulation from one of your older videos. You really are the best
@daniels.2978 8 ай бұрын
Oh joy, another love fest for Mick's pedal of all pedals. Last week we had the greatest tube screamer of all time compared to a noble screamer. Really, tell me the relevance of any of this? Am I supposed to save my pennies in the hopes they make a clone of Micks Klon or tube screamer? I shall now exit stage right as this show has jumped the shark. Feel free to enjoy That Pedal Show, home of Mick's unobtainium gear you can't have.
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
You’re missing the point. The question is “does it sound like…” You are substituting the question “Is it better than…” In the Screamer video, Dan’s fave was the Noble Screamer. In the Klon video, Dan’s fave was the Jeff. Did you miss that part? To answer the question, the relevant part is in asking what YOU like the best. Cheers!
@astewart9410 8 ай бұрын
Love all the name corrections lol
@timjx3675 8 ай бұрын
Both sounded great and similar to my ear, be interested to see how the Archer Jeff stacks up against my Klon clone the Ceriatone Centura which I love and is an always on on my board
@Chris_Gibbs 8 ай бұрын
I've always liked the Klon - similar to KoT - where it just does something so you miss it when it's not there. That said my KoT now sounds a little dark to my ears so I've switched it out for a KTR Klon.
@davide88rn 5 ай бұрын
I bought the Jeff for the same reason, for super mids I use my plumes and the Jeff for a clearer boost in gain. All of them into a rattler for super distortion
@BelchevKalin 8 ай бұрын
Now that is very interesting for me because I own a Jeff Archer.
@thomasleonards8660 8 ай бұрын
guitarists loved Klon tone so much that everyone started listening to autotune rap
@timholtguitar6999 8 ай бұрын
The JB doesn’t seem worth it to me compared to the regular Archer. I’ve found I’m kinda not a Klon guy, but this video was super interesting. Well done!
@MarshallAmpMan 8 ай бұрын
I dunno my Keely modded tube screamer TS808 smokes the Klon.
@JDODify 8 ай бұрын
I've got Klone called the Han-Taun made by IdiotBox. Really happy with it, its the core of my O/D sound.
@billcarson4749 8 ай бұрын
I own a wampler tumnus that i love. Archer is one of the greatest klon clone, but the jb sounds almost like an ehx soul food (which i had for years and loved it!), little more hairy than an original klon...
@BaronsDuju 8 ай бұрын
Quality headphones and I can’t hear any difference at all. I dig the sound of them with the Tele too, especially. I’m partial to middy Marshall tones tho! Edit: the 335 sounded killer with it too.
@jcs7217 8 ай бұрын
"Does the JB sound like Mick's Klon? NOOOOOOO..." - Love it No grey areas there.
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Didn't say worse or better tho did we. :0)
@samuelrutherford8107 8 ай бұрын
My dog peed on my quartermaster Qm6. My signal has alot of popping now. What do I do?
@pauleddy5146 8 ай бұрын
In my lexicon, the Archers, both, growl a bit more, say a little more hair on them than the Klon. The buckers brought that out a lot more.
@MrIantodd 8 ай бұрын
Does anybody know how Mr Beck used the pedal? Was it it his main source of gain or a boost? I’m assuming it was always on too?
@jeremyversusjazz 8 ай бұрын
I mean…All three sound pretty darn close to me🤷♂️heard more difference with the 335 tho. love watching u guys work tho! Agree about klons being great driven…mine kicks ass driven…in fact wasnt the klon designed to do its “thing” after 12 O Klok?
@darrenofdrivers 8 ай бұрын
Nels Cline and the Wampler Tumnus made me finally ‘get’ the Klon thing.
@Paul_Lenard_Ewing 8 ай бұрын
The best sounding Klon I ever heard is Harby Pedals Centauri. It supposedly uses the original parts that are indeed listed out on the site. It is built into a standard Hammond B box. The closer is the price. $169.00 USD
@lets_rock_it 7 ай бұрын
I have the archer prob the only pedal i own that had an apearence on your show. I dont use it like the most. The most i think they use it like a clean booster or transparent overdrive. I dont,i have 3 ods on my pedalboard. 1st a clean transparent that i use just as a booster,then i have a plimsoul that i use kinda like a ts ish and then i have the archer that is my main gain od when i need more bite and crunch. I use them like this after i try all diferent ways before cause when i got the archer it was to be a more cleaner transparent use like i think the most does,but after all the tries and changes my ears said it works better for me like this. This process prob took 1 to 2 years. Every change i did on the pedals i let it like at least a month and then i would change another and let it about a month.was a slow process but now iam good with my sound options and tone and its been years i dont chase for anything. Just want to thank you guys for all you teach me on all this years. I started to watch you videos when.i was a total zero in knowlodge of this stuff and now iam in a stage where iam good with what i have. Again thanks.
@mattwesthaver6909 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for Noel's knobs ❤
@Diax1324 8 ай бұрын
A lot of people think they need a modded Tubescreamer when they don't like how much the TS fucks up their base tone - a lot of the time, a Klon circuit is what they really need.
@michaelnachoescamilla6241 8 ай бұрын
The top end of the Klon is much more contoured and worn in like a glove but it still has bite. The others do not have the body of the Klon.
@godbyone 8 ай бұрын
I saw every beck tour up front. And I saw. Jeff use. archer instead of klon. And afte that. , never took it off
@godbyone 8 ай бұрын
I have 2 beck archers. And 1 archer. Both becks are softer. Cleaner. Drive.
@joeschlicht 8 ай бұрын
I've listened to a ton of Klon shootouts and this is the closest I've ever heard a klone getting to an actual Klon (many aren't even close to my ears) - I felt the standard silver Archer was close to your actual Klon. The JB was quite different (to my ears in headphones). I might have to add one and shoot it out against my Decibelics (which I like, but I have know idea how close to a Klon it is).
@voxpathfinder15r 8 ай бұрын
Possible explanations of the Jeff having more top end and thinner mids perhaps has to do with his playing style. He was known to set up his amplifiers with more top end, so it would be just the right with the guitar volume brought down during normal playing and you get more midrange from your guitar when you dial back the volume knob. So this pedal would make perfect sense for a player that rides his volume knob a lot, only maxing it out during brief solos
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
No arguments there!
@sgholt 8 ай бұрын
They all sit in the same area with some differences...which are minor. I have a J Rockett Ikon which I like a lot, more medium gain(which is right for me).
@mickeydt17 8 ай бұрын
To my eats, the Jeff sounded best with the humbuckers with a nice upper mid, whereas the Archer was best with single coils!
@gordonrankin3995 8 ай бұрын
I am wearing my Play Loud shirt today as well :) Do the both the J Rockett pedals have the buffer? Thanks guys!
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
I believe so. Mick here.
@jamesemerson4102 Ай бұрын
They all sound really good I think, the big one is a little thicker sounding. I am curious about the feel of the big one compared to the feel of the others. I've heard the original Klons feel really great. There is a pedal builder from Indonesia "Apollo Approved'. He makes a Klon style overdrive called the Unicorn which feels amazing like that.
@androtekman6131 8 ай бұрын
3:07 "Rock!"
@phladjki 8 ай бұрын
oooh klon thicker and more velvety vs the klones. I’d choose the less midrangey, but if you want the klon - the klones aren’t doing it quite.
@markproctor3100 8 ай бұрын
I have a Ceriatone Horsebreaker and it gets pretty close to a Klon and a Bluesbreaker (at least to my ears😏)
@Andrew-wb2zq 8 ай бұрын
I don't think I can tell between the Klon and the regular Archer. The JB is it's own beast.
@verigone2677 8 ай бұрын
Jeff's Klon always sounded thinner than others to me, pretty sure he had it modded to roll some mids out of his tone stack, probably worked really well with the treble bleed circuit in his combined pickup selections and his prodigious use of both volume and tone knobs on his guitar. Jeff always had this tone that cut but remained creamy despite all of the bucket loads of distortion. Your Klon is something of a conundrum to me, I have yet to hear a klon as thick as yours even through low output pickups. The Jeff sounds a bit like my switchable boost that swaps between 3 different boost circuits and can combine up to 2 of them at once, when I stack the Tube Screamer circuit with the LED diode circuit I get this mid forward sound with tons of cut and sizzle but not as thick and round of a sound as say an Analog Man and definitely not as warm as your Klon. I need to save some cash it seems, The Jeff is right up my alley and my JHS haunting Mids should get me what need when I want to go extra thick in the mids.
@cpk313 8 ай бұрын
The Jeff is cleaner then the Klon and does not sound close the Archer sounds much closer but I'm sure what I'm hearing compressed over KZfaq isn't what it's like in room. As a overdrive that Klon kills
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