Does this Work? Miter Saw Dust Collection Game-changer! / EP45

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Improving the stock dust collection on my Dewalt 12" miter saw. No bulky shrouds! Universal Solution! Works with shop vac or extractor!
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In all of my videos it’s my goal to help you Maximize Your Shop!
In this video I demonstrate the effectiveness of my simple dust collection modification for a DeWalt 12" Compound Miter Saw. The Dust collection improvements can be made within 30 minutes and for under $10. This modification consists of a two-piece dust hood and conical shroud that better enclose the blade and allow shop-vac dust collection air flow to better collect the chips as they're generated. I also detail how I made the upgrade and show the drastic improvement in dust collection 90 degree cuts (which this modification is optimized for).The materials used in this project were:
1. Rubber Drawer Liner
2. Small rare earth magnets
3. Copper Wire
4. Utility knife
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@perrycrutchfield479 2 жыл бұрын

It's awesome when someone takes a problem and instead of doing what everyone else does (the big box) thinks "outside the box" and comes up with a better way. Good for you man, you just made my project 1000 times easier! Good video as well. Clear and effective! Thanks!!

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Perry I really appreciate the compliment. Glad to have you watching, and I wish you the best in taming that dust!

@Rocadamis 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you made this follow-up video on this DIY dust collection set-up. I just bought some tool box liner material and will try it out.

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Rocdamus, best of luck with the mod. Thanks for watching, would love to hear your results. Happy building!

@camelconversions4924 4 ай бұрын

After months of research, this is one of the most practical mitre dust collections I've seen! thanks for sharing!

@michaelopry3456 5 жыл бұрын

finally putting my garage shop together, been watching video after video on planning dust collection to do it once and right. This is just about the best idea I have seen for the notorious miter saw dust collection Thanks for sharing Chris.

@benchtopwoodworks 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Michael, glad to help

@alanr745 2 жыл бұрын

Michael, same here. I’m going to make an enlarged dust chute to replace the stock one on my Metabo. Then add a dust enclosure attached to 6” pvc and a 5ho cyclone collector. Hopefully, that’ll mean no dust. Lil

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, Alan. Please feel free to share how it turns out! Best of luck keeping that dust at bay

@lynnhaynes9870 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris for your video and insight. I am setting up a miter saw table currently and will certainly put this information to use. The best I have seen!

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lynn Haynes, glad to help! Would love to hear the outcome!

@JahariAluvis 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! I'm getting ready to build my first miter saw station and this is just what I need to add to the setup!

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

Great, best of luck, I hope it saves you some space!

@jacoblarsen6880 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video and demo of how efficient your dust shroud is. THanks for sharing!

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Jacob!

@Tricyklist 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video and mods! Thanks for being so thorough in design and testing.

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!!

@sallyhansen1901 4 жыл бұрын

AMAZING!! so simply. I am building a table that holds my miter saw but wanted some way to stop the dust. Can 't wait to do this myself!

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Sally! Glad to help!

@tryonco 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent. Thank you. Like many, I have been studying all the various miter saw dust collection systems, hood and shroud designs out there, etc., and I am very impressed with the simplicity, effectiveness, cost and portability of your design. Having the exact same saw, I just ordered the shroud material and will be putting your design in place immediately! Thanks again. 👍

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Trent! I'm honored!

@dougthompson1020 5 жыл бұрын

I have a Dewalt compound mitersaw and have been having the same dust problems with the standard collector. I knew there was someone out there that would figure out a cheap and not bulky fix for this problem. Good job Chris!! thanks for the videos. Doug Thompson

@benchtopwoodworks 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Doug, would love to hear your results and lessons learned if you try it!

@TimsBitsnPieces 5 жыл бұрын

I have a compound slide mitre saw and will make something similar as I'm over the dust everywhere even tho I have a dust extraction system connected to mine. Great Idea thanks Chris.

@benchtopwoodworks 5 жыл бұрын

I'd love to hear how it turns out or any improvements you come up with, Tim. Thanks for watching!

@bdormer1 5 жыл бұрын

I have that exact saw - it makes wonderful, accurate cuts. But it also makes an awful mess. I'm in a basement shop, so the dust is a real problem. I'm going to make a boot like you did. Thank you!

@benchtopwoodworks 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome Brian, glad to help!

@kamransaleem6835 4 жыл бұрын

Really insightful, going to have a go with mine too. Awesome idea with the magnets.

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Best of luck, would love to hear how it turns out for you.

@whomadethatsaltysoup Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for taking the time to share your experience with dust collection hacks. Alas, I have a sliding mitre saw and am worried about the potential of the shroud method snagging on the blade. I will, however, have a go at extending the existing dust collection shroud to see how it performs. Again, I can't thank you enough for sharing your experience. Most of the other dust collection hacks seem to involve restricting the tool's ability to perform anything other than straight cuts, as the full enclosure solutions make mitres or bevels impossible. Of course, the Festool is an excellent 'off the peg' solution to dust collection. But, as you say, it's a question of available funds.

@CuriousCaine Жыл бұрын

Chris- thank you so much for an extraordinarily clear set of videos. Your whiteboard explanation in a previous video as well as this one are very clear. I have the same miter saw, and thought the collection shroud must be broken because it is so far from the blade. Crazy that they don't offer a better solution stock. I had the same experience as you, where connecting my 4" dust collection system reduced the amount of sawdust (and eliminated most of the big pieces) I still had cloud of dust to deal with. I will seek out the material you used and fashion a similar guard for my setup based on your video. Thanks again!!

@benchtopwoodworks Жыл бұрын

Caine, thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I'm glad you found some value in the videos.

@micschemelin663 3 жыл бұрын

I agree with all the positive comments below! I have modified my miter saw a couple of times with marginal success. Your idea of redirecting the dust close to the source is outstanding! 👍. thanks

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Mic!

@tedfritsch3340 3 жыл бұрын

Very impressive, thanks for taking the time to share this.

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Ted!

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching, Ted! glad to help

@gregsmith3406 5 жыл бұрын

Hey, Chris... I found your before/after demo. Very well done. I subscribed! Best, Greg

@benchtopwoodworks 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Greg, very much appreciated!

@peterskidmore8222 4 жыл бұрын

My miter saw drops down, so I can make my work bench bigger, and this solution seems ideal. I've spent the afternoon watching various designs, and like you, a box would just be a faff to use and store. I'm going to give this a go on my Evolution saw.

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Best of luck, Peter. I have a free template for the inner cone if you would like to print it on my website. I'm glad you found some value in the design. Thanks for watching, and taking the time to write!

@JamesAyala 5 жыл бұрын

Best one I’ve seen so far

@benchtopwoodworks 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, James

@41divad 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent Chris

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, David!

@jeffforbes3772 4 жыл бұрын

Great tutorial! Thanks for posting.

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Jeff!

@KBN102 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome a quick and efficient fix, thanks.

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, KB

@md227cd 2 жыл бұрын

Very good, and practical!

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@bevanstuart9013 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Chris. New to your channel but want to say your videos are really nicely done and very informative. I am just starting to review your entire shop setup. I should add I found you through Jay Bates.

@benchtopwoodworks 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Bevan, I really appreciate the kind feedback and you watching!

@yuanjia1231 4 жыл бұрын

Always working in a confined space and exhausted for dust cleaning from time to time. I have a 10 inch miter saw which is enough in capacity but the dust collector is terrible. Looking for a miter saw with the best dust collector for long time and never had any satisfied answer. This method is so great that I don't have to spend big money to buy a new saw but to spend only some 20 dollars with a result better than all miter saws in the market! Many thanks Chris!

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Yuan Jia.I appreciate your positive feedback, very happy to save your cleanup and $! I've had the concept in my notebook forever, wish I would've made it a long time ago. KZfaq curse is I don't make something until I'm ready to film.

@HomeImprovementWoodworking 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Chris. I've played with a few dust collection solutions for my miter saw. The best result I found is using a dust collection hood. You can see it in my woodshop on my channel. Scott

@benchtopwoodworks 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Scott, you're video/solution are great. Thank you for sharing!

@samholborn 5 ай бұрын

Bloody hell, awesome, like you I'm mainly indoors because UK weather, love to do mine outside, but there's my neighbours, I'm in a terraced house, still figuring my dust thingy out,

@benchtopwoodworks 5 ай бұрын

What saw model do you have? I went back in 2022 and started making this into an attachable product for some models.

@SawTooth1953 3 жыл бұрын

You wouldn't believe all the rigamarole I went through to "invent" a way to do what you showed us here. I am dismantling my large "tent" in which I put the saw, in favor of your straightforward method. Thank you so much for sharing this info and the pattern. (I wish I found it all sooner. It was here, but I didn't find it until today.)

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Spence, thanks for your kind words. I've been through quite a few iterations myself. Best of luck, Sir and I'm glad you found the channel!!

@samholborn 5 ай бұрын

Yep I've got a tent system too, but I'm not going to use my saw till figure something like this,

@srcutubeusa 4 жыл бұрын

great idea and video, thanks for sharing!

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Scott. Thanks for watching!

@stuffoflardohfortheloveof 5 жыл бұрын

Very well presented vid. I have an older, 110v, version of this saw and I’m amazed that they didn’t really improve the collection with such a newer version. I made a simpler example of what you’ve done and it has made a considerable improvement.

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

@cwinegarden6426 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the good ideas.

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Glad to help, C Winegarden. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Best of luck knocking out that miter-saw dust!

@richardcurtis3956 4 жыл бұрын

Chris, watched both videos about your miter dust collection, great idea! I have been looking for a better solution, never thought about something like this. I will be getting this built in the next couple of days. Also, FYI, I just upgraded from my shop vac to a small WEN dust collector, it really "sucks". It was $100 online so not much more than a shop vac and it works very well. Only thing is its for dust only. I can not longer suck up small scraps/chunks because it has a built in screen to protect the fan blade. Buts its much stronger than my shopvac and I don't need to use blast gates on each line.

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Best of luck, Richard. The Wen sounds like an interesting option, I will check it out, thank you very much for sharing. Would love to hear how your own adaptation works out on the dust sorry m shroud!

@troyporter3825 3 жыл бұрын

LOVEEE this poor man's system! gonna try it..thank you!

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Troy! Very welcome, thanks for watching and best of luck.

@robsandstrom9854 5 жыл бұрын

Agree with your emphasis on dust collection. thank you for sharing your efforts with the dust collection on your miter saw. I am setting up my shop and looking for various opportunities to improve dust collection in general, but more specifically for my sliding compound miter saw. I currently have a Kobalt 12 inch dual bevel sliding saw and thinking about changing to the Bosch 12 in saw - so I am looking for various options that could apply to each. I observed how Dan Pattison built his dust collection for the Bosch.

@benchtopwoodworks 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Rob, those new Bosch glides are great! Best of luck with your setup and dust collection!

@johnnybeanz1296 5 жыл бұрын

Very interesting. Thanks

@benchtopwoodworks 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@hopkinshome3799 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Why the big manufacturers haven’t figured out that dust collection is a major factor for any work indoors. I’m a General Contractor and have mainly Festool tools based on the sole reason of their dust collection capabilities...I can easily justify the cost over a couple of jobs based on less mess at the customer site especially when doing work on occupied premises. I also have Dewalt chop saws but only use them outside.

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Hopkins Home! It amazes me what a few small design changes could do for most saws. I'm sure those Festool investments pay dividends in time saved & stress removed. Thanks for watching, and taking the time to leave a comment/ share!

@hansangb 2 жыл бұрын

Day late and dollar short for me. I *just* bought the hood from Amazon. OH well, live and learn. I'll be making this shroud this weekend. Thanks!

@hansangb 2 жыл бұрын

Just to reiterate what I wrote in the other video: This method works better than the $159 hood I got from Amazon. The hood works well enough, but you still have a lot to clean up. With your method, it's just as good as the hood and I don't have to clean up anything. AWESOME.

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

+Hansang Bae thank you!! glad to help!

@scottdicker7051 3 жыл бұрын

This is a real great idea considering the amount of dust generated by the Dewalt miter saw

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Scott. It's definitely made a difference in my shop

@koolkid1234ism 4 жыл бұрын

great video! Thank you so much

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@alreadyfalling 5 жыл бұрын

this will be getting done on my ridigd thanks!

@benchtopwoodworks 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome Matt, hope it works well for you.

@jerrycraig3737 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve tried several methods to collect the loads of sawdust that my mitre saw puts out. These were sold structures of wood with various sliding gates to restrict scatter; none worked really well and in addition were bulky . Your adaptation makes sense and while I’m sure that no design will allow 100% collection, it looks like it does the best confining of the scatter. I like also that it allows angle movement of the saw in any plane with no restrictions. I’m going to use pond liner rubber of which I have quite a bit and it’s thick and won’t collapse easily. If the installation and any mods help I’ll send you a video. Thanks for the idea.

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

The pond liner sounds like it will work well, best of luck, Jerry. Would love to hear/see your results.

@markquinlan3595 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Chris, thank you so much for the excellent content. Just built a new mobile miter stand and I will be implementing your solution. Currently use a big hood and it just takes up too much space. The time and effort you put into your videos is greatly appreciated. Subscribed. Best woodworking and God Bless.

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Mark, thank you, I really appreciate the compliment. Glad to help!

@ForestWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Very welcome! Thanks for watching

@McMonkeyful 2 жыл бұрын

I made something similar the other day out of thin cardboard, covered with silver gaffer tape, with a tape skirt where it comes into contact with the fence, all held in place with bolts already on the saw. Not perfect but much better than the standard collection. I've got some old roofing rubber sheet offcuts & will have a go at refining the design, following this idea even more closely. I think the current card & tape design works but a thick rubber version should be more hard wearing. Thanks for the inspiration.

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to help, thanks for sharing what you used. Best as you refine your design!

@JohnvanGurp 4 жыл бұрын

Very impressive!

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, John

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

For those interested, I have a free template for the inner-shroud on my website: www.benchtopwoodworks.com (FREE PLANS AND RESOURCES PAGE)

@olonips 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Chris, I just visited your website but I couldn't find the template. Can you please tell me how to find it? Thanks!

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

It's on the Free Plans and Resources page. Pardon the ads, I'm working to correct how obnoxious they are. Here's a direct download link: img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/98cf055b-1d47-432c-93bf-f2e560b99134/DeWalt_12in_Miter_Saw_Full_Size_Shroud%20Pa-0003.pdf

@bradroon5538 2 жыл бұрын

I'm sold. My saw is an old Hitachi CFS12 (?) and the factory dust port sucks. Just doesn't suck much dust. When you did your first two cuts one could see a cloud of dust flying out to the side.

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

It made a big difference on my saw, no more dust clouds! Best of luck with the mod, Brad!

@daviddejdejongh3069 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for putting this up, Chris . I've been coughing my heart up after cutting the mitered top frame of a bookcase from 3/4" cherry. I love deWalt's tools, but their dust collection sucks (and not in a good way!).

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear, DaviddeJ de Jongh. Hope it helps! Best of luck killing off that dust!!

@AndrewWisler Жыл бұрын

I’ve been fiddling with this, and I just about have something that works, but it wasn’t easy. I think my Dewalt saw is older than yours, and it has an angle stop that sits in front of the dust port, and it pushes the lower cone into the air stream when you lower the saw. It also interferes with placement of the support wire, so it’s all a bit wonky. I think I might try the needle and fishing line to fix the wire to the hood so it doesn’t get displaced when I lower the saw. Thanks for sharing this, though, it was a great starting point for me.

@benchtopwoodworks Жыл бұрын

Andrew, I'm glad it helped as a concept and starting point. I've talked to a lot of people about this problem over the years, we've come to some better alternatives along the way. If there are other more rigid ways you might make a frame to support the drawer liner (3D printed material, plastic bottle, etc may work) best with your modification. Thank you for watching, I'm glad you found some value in it and that it was a jumping off point for you.

@twopoolpeople 3 жыл бұрын

The miter saw is a great tool that will probably kill all of us from the fine dust we don't see until it's all over the shop the next day. My miter saw is mounted on a mobile cabinet in my garage/shop. I have made several different hoods and scoop/funnels but there is always that fine dust that escapes. I suggest that if your shop is in a garage, use the miter saw so the back faces the open garage door. Mine is hooked up to a central vac. I place a patio fan which is about 3 feet high behind me on the highest speed when I use the saw. I've found this is the best thing for that fine dust. Between the funnel collector, the central vac and the fan behind me almost no dust is in the garage the next day. I still want to try an enclosed hood I try your type of funnel. Thanks for the good video. Guys - try a fan behind you and an open door!

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the idea, Henry. A window exhaust fan is something my dad always had in our basement shop growing up. Great tip, 👍 definitely something to look into!

@aj.8665 4 жыл бұрын

I just bought the Dewalt DWS 799 Miter Saw, and the dust chute/guide is different. The problem I was having is when I attached my dust collection the suction was too strong and collapse the thin rubber chute/guide closed. My solution was to take the dust port and tube out and wrap the thin rubber chute with Gorilla black tape. This really reinforce it and when hooked up to the 2HP Dust collection the chute did not collapse shut anymore. In addition I added a chute extension like you did with rubber liner and that made it perfect. Thanks for the idea.

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

A.J. Thanks for watching and for sharing! Glad to hear you found a great solution for your saw!

@jcberb 3 жыл бұрын

This is fantastic, sure as hell beats the 159.00 contraption sold on Amazon that reminds me of one of those baby stroller covers. And it just so happens that I have drawer liner. You mentioned better options...the comparison test you presented is pretty darn good; in my case it is the route I am going. Thanks for the video.

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome jcherb, glad to help! It pumps me up to see how motivated you are. You should've seen me the day I made it...I was very thrilled! I told my wife, "I think I just revolutionized miter saw dust collection!" She's not a woodworker and was less than amused at my excitement. I do think the best option for those with high-flow collectors are the shrouds with tight clearances around the saw.... but they are complicated little builds and you need to have the space to do it.

@James_Dean_The_Sausage_King 10 ай бұрын

I wonder if that would work better with vinyl flooring? That’s a great idea to catch the dust tho. Great video!

@benchtopwoodworks 9 ай бұрын

That would be a great more stiff option for forming cones/shrouds!

@TheWhiskeredWoodsmith 3 жыл бұрын

Rock of the Marne!

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

TOTR!

@jamesricephoto4323 4 жыл бұрын

nice job

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, James

@rok1475 Жыл бұрын

A very useful addition is an automatic switch that turns the dust collector on the moment you start the saw and turns it off a few seconds after the saw is off. If you are making a lot of cuts, chances are you will forget to turn the vac on more than once. There are commercial automatic switches available but it is easy to build one from parts off eBay or Amazon.

@benchtopwoodworks Жыл бұрын

For sure. I use a shop vac currently, I chose to put my vac and some other items on a 20A rated remote control relay. Not quite the automation as an auto-switch but it's really nice to be able to turn it on and off from my apron.

@philmeanor2638 2 жыл бұрын

Great stuff. Is that a Penn State hat? Go State!!

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Phil! Sure is, We Are!

@Therealphantomzero 3 жыл бұрын

I was actually trying to do the same thing but I wanted to put the shroud with some type of fabric because mine's a sliding compound miter saw and attach it to the head so when the sliding function comes out from the back it will extend to that link and I was thinking about using wires so it's funny that did I see your video after while I'm trying to figure this out so it seems like it might be a good idea I'm still playing with it

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Best of luck working through it, and getting rid of that dust!

@derekharp2805 Жыл бұрын

You serve with the 3rd ID? Just took a look at your site. Thank you for your service and great video.

@benchtopwoodworks Жыл бұрын

I did, 2015-2019. Thanks for watching and taking the time to reach out, Derek!

@arnoldgamez2408 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Chris! do you think you can make us a video step by step how you made/build this or do you already have a video regarding that? and thanks for sharing this idea by the way🙏👏

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Arnold, I don't.. just the template with written description and videos describing concept. It was one of those trial and error projects that I just wanted DONE and the video/ sharing came after. . I never filmed it. I keep getting asked for this, so I will try to get it done. Thanks for he motivation, I'll try to get it bumped up the list

@foggdogg001 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Chris, love this setup. I’ve been trying to implement it on my DW716 but there is a big block supporting one leg of the hinge spring that really deforms the primary shroud. Does yours have this? I’d leave a pic but I don’t think I can here.

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Joshua, thanks for watching, and reaching out. Each saw will likely require adjustments to the mod. I'd like to better understand what you're describing. Free to email if you like, there is a link on my website or benchtopwoodworks@gmail

@scottcates Жыл бұрын

Sold!

@lousebelmlea6889 4 жыл бұрын

Would you mind to demo how the liner would do on bevel cuts? I suppose one side of the liner would fold flat against the surface while the opposite side would have a gap at the bottom?

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Louseb Elmlea, that is exactly what happens as the cutting head rotates. Cone and shroud are both attached to the head and move with it and contact/move away from the fence. As time permits, I will try to do a demo on some more of tee specifics and questions you and others have asked. Thanks for watching!

@fxnx38 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing, what vacuum do you use?

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

I use a large shop vac, HP doesn't really mean anything but mine is advertised as 5.5 HP

@Kelinesh 4 жыл бұрын

Seeing how flexible the material is and where it is mounted, do you see any issue with this technique working on a sliding bevel compound miter saw? It seems that nothing would get in the way unless the angles pinch the material and put it into the blade path.

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Allen, I think it would work well. I've used my setup with compound cuts. My shroud has some blade nicks from blade contact due with fence and it pushing material into the blade over the past few years. Really no risk and material is cheap enough to replace if nicked.

@172sbct 2 жыл бұрын

I can’t find the template for the inner piece on your site. I clicked around but ended on on Etsy at some point.

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

Sbct 172, below is a direct download link, it's on the Free Plans and resources page. Thanks for checking out my website. img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/98cf055b-1d47-432c-93bf-f2e560b99134/DeWalt_12in_Miter_Saw_Full_Size_Shroud%20Pa-0003.pdf

@jerrykearns6344 Жыл бұрын

"The Dust collection improvements can be made within 30 minutes and for under $10." Thanks, I'll give it a try. Many of these youtube dust mods require a $3,000 3d printer and 300 hours. I'm actually running Makita max 100T blades on two Dewalt 12" miter saws to reduce the dust to survivable levels. Your results with a stock construction blade are very impressive.

@benchtopwoodworks Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Jerry! Best with the modification. What models of DeWalts are you working on? I may have a commercial off the shelf solution for you very soon!

@jerrykearns6344 Жыл бұрын

@@benchtopwoodworks DW706 (Type 1) double bevel, non-slider and DWS780 (Type 22) double bevel, slider

@jerrykearns6344 Жыл бұрын

@@benchtopwoodworks Here's a high volume trim carpenter who runs Dewalts with extra wide kerf carbide blades for cut quality (and more dust) and no dust collection (he dumped Festool which has great dust collection because of reliability problems): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pr1oa8yF0afDhok.html See 13.35 time for dust collection discussion (he wants a solution).

@benchtopwoodworks Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I've got designs in the works for both. Good to know, they're both very popular models with only a few mods over the years.

@benchtopwoodworks Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, I'll reach out to him.

@chrisallen2594 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. I am curious about the connection from your saw to the shop vac. I have a Dewalt also but I do not have the same connection. Can I ask what/how your connection to the hose works? Thanks.

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Chris, thanks for watching. The connection is a rubber plumbing boot/coupling that reduces from Shop-Vac hose to the dust port. I think it's a 2" - 1 1/4" reducer.

@chrisallen2594 4 жыл бұрын

Chris Harpster Thanks. I am a novice woodworker but I am already planning on workin on dust collection for this saw. Thanks again.

@crazyirishmanartist 2 жыл бұрын

Great idea! Will this shroud also work on a 12” Dewalt compound miter saw? Also, I went to your website link and could not find your template. Any suggestions?

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

Michael, below is a direct download link, it's on the Free Plans and resources page. I'm not certain the models the template will work on, but the concept has now been applied to a number of saws/ brands.img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/98cf055b-1d47-432c-93bf-f2e560b99134/DeWalt_12in_Miter_Saw_Full_Size_Shroud%20Pa-0003.pdf

@crazyirishmanartist 2 жыл бұрын

@@benchtopwoodworks Thank you Chris.

@rodrigocristopherpelucchiv2970 Жыл бұрын

Today I started using my cyclone divisor collector and while using a vacuum improves the dust collection, I didn' t know my miter saw has such poor dust collection design so that the vacuum doesn't perform properlyl. I started thinking and looking for videos of DIY dust collectors and all seemed to me very bulky and even difficult to build. In the end I reached a very similar idea of what you did in this video, tomorrow I'll try it and maybe even upload a video!

@benchtopwoodworks Жыл бұрын

Outstanding! Best with the test and beating that dust. Thanks for sharing, Rodrigo

@rodrigocristopherpelucchiv2970 Жыл бұрын

@@benchtopwoodworks Here is the result! kzfaq.infowxT4xEmKjYo it's a very very very simple version but it works fine for me!

@benchtopwoodworks Жыл бұрын

Bosch glide? Hard to tell from camera angle. Looks like success! I may have a solid commercial solution for you, soon ; )

@rodrigocristopherpelucchiv2970 Жыл бұрын

@@benchtopwoodworks Einhell TC-SM 216

@benchtopwoodworks Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing, I'll look into that model.

@jsemaj8451 2 жыл бұрын

What dust collector are you using? Would a 5hp shopvac be sufficient enough?

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

I'm actually using a 5hp shop vac. There are some advantages to chip diversion & collection at source with the high pressure flow

@SW-jo7vy 2 жыл бұрын

Any suggestions for a sliding miter saw?

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

Steve, the same general concept applies with a sliding saw. You will just have to determine the best method for your saw. Edit+ keep everything attached to the main head so that it plunges and slides with your blade

@putridperrier 4 жыл бұрын

Liked and subbed

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@billsemmendinger2592 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Chris, I added the inner shroud to my miter saw back in May. I has worked out really well until like you the Blade caught it and tore it up pretty good. Could you please expound on the wire you used to stiffen yours up and how you attached it? Also did you put the wire on the inside or out side of the shroud? Stay healthy and Thanks Bill

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Bill, glad to hear of the dust collection success. I used some leftover 10 or 12 Gauge solid wire and bent it into a long "U" shape that has somewhat of an "L" profile to it that holds the bottom of the cone down. I'm away from my saw/home currently and unable to measure. I bent outward hooks on the end of the wire and "hooked" it on the corregations of the shop vac hose beyond the stock port. There is one picture of it here: instagram.com/p/BsGi6i9gBYe/?igshid=ye4tfbryxxae If i did it over, and I may at some point as a demonstration...I might use the same wire, but make an external frame on the outside of the cone. I would attach it with gorilla tape or use a needle and fishing line to thread it to the outer edge of the cone. I hope that helps! Thanks for watching, and following up. I added a free template download to my website for the cone if you would like to use it.

@billsemmendinger2592 4 жыл бұрын

@@benchtopwoodworks Thanks Chris for getting back to me so quickly. I have a Ryobi 12" and I'm not sure I can hook back to the hose but I will give it a try. You have given me some ideas on how to fix the problem on my saw though. I'll let you know how it works out. Thanks again.

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Great, Bill. Looking forward to hearing how it goes. I would love to be able to share your solution with others if you're able to send a photo/email.

@thedodsons38 3 жыл бұрын

How do you think this would work on a sliding dewalt 12”?

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Better than the stock port I suppose. I haven't tried it, but I've gotten several emails from people with sliders that were successful. Would love to share photos if you do it and are satisfied.

@jaimegenovajr3257 4 жыл бұрын

What kind of material you used to clamp on the miter saw dust port through the vacuum hose? Please reply and thank you so much

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Jaime, The connection is a rubber plumbing boot/coupling that reduces from Shop-Vac hose to the dust port. I think it's a 2" - 1 1/4" reducer. There are two hose clamps that come integral to the rubber boot that clamp the port and vacuum hose. Thanks for watching and the question.

@jaimegenovajr3257 4 жыл бұрын

Chris Harpster thank you so much sir

@joe7737 3 жыл бұрын

Can you still see the double bevel angles pretty well?

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

They're slightly covered. The shroud is very flexible, so I just move it to see the indicator to adjust during setup. I can't think of an instance where the shroud causes any interference with the actual work through the saws range of adjustment. Thanks for watching & the question, JP!

@joe7737 3 жыл бұрын

@@benchtopwoodworks thanks for letting me know dont generally expect a reply on a 2 year old vid!

@Viralclown 10 ай бұрын

Good job dewalt. Let the consumer fix your laziness

@delikid 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Chris! I really dig this shroud set up!!! I went looking for the additional photos but couldn’t find any on your social media links. Do you have those photos located somewhere else I can see them? I want to build the shroud and promote your idea!!! Thanks!

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Ian, thanks for reaching out. Below is a link to a few additional photos: instagram.com/p/BsGi6i9gBYe/?igshid=uj03xggq247 Please let me know if the concept is still unclear after viewing them and I can try another option. There is also a slightly different video on the shroud on my channel if you haven't already checked it out. Thanks again, and best of luck! Would love to hear or see how it turns out!

@paullav8627 3 жыл бұрын

Were you in the 3rd Infantry Bn? I was a Cottonbaler in 'Nam. A/3/7 1969

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Yes Sir, I was in 3ID for several years, but at Ft. Benning. The 7th Infantry Regiment has a great history! Ours was the 28th Black Lions. Thank you for your service, Sir. ( that's easy to say in modern times when the US military have much more public support. You and your cohort had a much harder job with the political climate/support in those days) Thank you!

@paullav8627 3 жыл бұрын

@@benchtopwoodworks Can you give us the specifics on how you connected the exhaust port of the chop saw to a hose? I have the same saw and a Rigid vacuum and have tried several methods.

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Paul, I used a rubber 2" to 1 1/2" rubber reducer. They are typically sold with hose clamps attached.

@gundriver6439 4 жыл бұрын

3rd ID Thumbs-up!

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@andrizeefoshizee 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Chris! Would this work on Dewalt's 12" sliding miter saw?

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Howdy! Concept should work. I'm not sure about the pattern template. Many others have used this on sliders and told me about it. Would love to share photos of yours if you complete it!

@andrizeefoshizee 3 жыл бұрын

@@benchtopwoodworks Thanks! I'm going to try it this week, God willing and I will share photos if successful.

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Feel free to email. Best of luck with the modification, it's not very difficult and I'm sure you'll see an improvement

@westsidewil 3 жыл бұрын

Any luck with the sliders, DeWalt 12” compound slider here.

@koolkid1234ism 4 жыл бұрын

does anyone know if this would this work for the sliding version of this saw?

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

I haven't personally tried it, but several viewers have told me of success with it on sliders of different brands. The main thing is getting the collection air stream closer to the chips coming off the blade. I would think anything you can do to improve that would help drastically. There's a free pattern on my website if you want to try for the inner cone. I would love to hear if the pattern works for your saw. Most "dollar stores" sell drawer liner. Can anyone else answer from their specific experience?

@koolkid1234ism 4 жыл бұрын

@@benchtopwoodworks Thanks for your fast reply! I don't have the saw yet i just ordered the 779 today. I still have to build the station as well but I will let you know when i can:)

@Rwjudy48 5 жыл бұрын

Chris, thanks so much for this. I have the model 715. Just a bit different, but think I can adapt your idea. How is the wire to keep the liner from collapsing in held in place?

@benchtopwoodworks 5 жыл бұрын

Robert, friction for now, I'm looking at maybe improving it with tape. I bent the ends of wire outward to hook on the inside of the pipe. Ive had little issue with it moving or changing. Now that I've been using it, I'll probably tape in place with some duct tape or gorilla tape to keep it from moving.

@Rwjudy48 5 жыл бұрын

Chris, thank you for such a quick response. I since revisited Dan Pattinson’s video. I’m thinking the wire frame outside might help too.

@benchtopwoodworks 5 жыл бұрын

Great call, would love to hear how it works out. Dan has a great concept for the Bosch

@Rwjudy48 5 жыл бұрын

Chris, I successfully completed the dust “corral” for my saw. But I ended up going in a completely different and originally unthought of direction. The 715 is made up mostly of aluminum components which does not provide any or enough points to attach anything magnetically. I ended up using 3 parts fabricated from aluminum baking sheets ($3.00) that I adhered to the saw with double stick tape and Gorilla tape. Captures all but the tiniest amount of the dust. Let me know where to send pics if you’re interested. Thank you for the initial motivation to improve the dust capture for one of the two dustiest machines in my shop

@benchtopwoodworks 5 жыл бұрын

Robert, that's great to hear! I missed your follow-up comment somehow. You can email me at Benchtopwoodworks1@gmail.com.

@bigdogkropp Жыл бұрын

Obviously not going to work the same way with a sliding miter saw as the cone will hit the fence. Probably need both a shrowd that travels with the blade and a stationary cone behind the fence.

@benchtopwoodworks Жыл бұрын

Yes, concept has to be reduced in size for sliders. I recommend one that travels with the head directly behind the blade.

@westsidewil 3 жыл бұрын

What is the pattern for the top shroud?

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Westsidewil. Nothing fancy, I started with a rectangle that fits over the arm to close the gap between the guard and inner cone. I trimmed the edges to not hit the fence.

@westsidewil 3 жыл бұрын

@@benchtopwoodworks does your pattern have to be printed on 11 x 17

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

It is formatted for 11x17 due to the size. You don't have to print it that way. Half of it can be printed on 1x sheet of letter paper and transferred to the rubber with a marker. You could also print out full scale on 2x pages and tape together if v you like

@tdavey5599 5 жыл бұрын

if you can do this why in the hell cant dewalt make something like this for the saw--I have the EXACT same machine and the dust is horrific as you know--any chance you have a template of the rubber boot you made, or at least a couple of pics of the shape--you should sell your design to dewalt and make some coin--and they should stand up and take notice of what you did--GREAT job

@benchtopwoodworks 5 жыл бұрын

Tim, thanks for watching and taking the time to follow up. I'm also not sure why DeWalt hasn't optimized this saw's dust collection. Some of their direct competitors like Bosch have them beat on their stock collection. I have some photos on my Instagram page: "benchtopwoodworks" I will say that this is optimized for 90 degree zero bevel cuts. Changing the miter angle makes it less effective for some reason.

@tdavey5599 5 жыл бұрын

most all of my cuts are at 90 degrees so this will work great--thanks

@spacehonkey 4 жыл бұрын

I would love to duplicate this on my saw. Can you provided the measurements you used? This would save me a lot of time and material.

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Howard, Rough dimensions can be seen here on Instagram page. Hope that helps, sorry it's not super detailed, mostly was a proof of concept that I cut to fit. Good idea, i should probably make a pattern, but have not yet! instagram.com/p/BsGi6i9gBYe/?igshid=oejprjvzqjmb

@roccofortunato3597 2 жыл бұрын

We Are!

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

PENN STATE! Also, loving the start to this season!

@TylerWilliams0528 2 жыл бұрын

Can I ask what fitting/adapters you used on the tail end of the included dewalt dust boot? The connection from your saw to the shop vac hose? Thanks so much in advance!

@benchtopwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

Tyler, of course, I used a flexible rubber plumbing a boot adapter. In this case 2.5" to 1.5", they come with hose clamps. I bought the one I used at the home center. Thanks for watching and the question.

@MDD1966 6 ай бұрын

You didn’t show how to connect the inner shroud

@johnboy3100 3 жыл бұрын

Does the boot interfere when doing miter cuts etc?

@benchtopwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

No, it moves with the head/ blade for miter cuts. The shape of the inner boot/outer shroud prevents them from interfering through the range of my saws miter angles. For beveled cuts it it flexes when it contacts the fence. Mine has some blade nicks after 3 years of use from being pushed into the blade / flexing, but nothing unsafe or catastrophic. From my perspective the drawer liner is cheap enough and safe enough to have around the blade I could replace it every once in awhile if needed.

@driftowl2920 4 жыл бұрын

I'm sold, now I just have to find a coupling that will actually fit my DW715 without having to jimmy rig it..

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it, thanks for watching. Maybe try a 1.5" to 2" rubber boot for plumbing. They come with hose clamps, costs a few bucks, but are rock-solid once installed. Should allow you to couple a shop vac hose directly or similar hose to the smaller port of the saw.

@driftowl2920 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that would be my next option at this point I think. Also saw some guy here on youtube using plastic bottles that he cut oversized before sliding it over the dust port. Then just blasted it with a heat gun to make the plastic wrap itself around the port, may just try that route too since it seems easy enough to make everything fit... and fun!

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Nice, never thought of PE bottles! I've used a heat gun and oven to form custom pvc fittings in the past, mostly female couplers. It works great. Best of luck with the modifications and getting rid of that dust! Would love to hear how it turns out.

@driftowl2920 4 жыл бұрын

Worked out even better than I thought it would to be honest. Hooks straight up to the shop vac now and the connection is snug to the point where I don't even need a hose clamp between the two. After this experiment I guess I can go ahead and hook it up to the rest of the 2" pvc system with the cyclone and add the hood from your video to make it 'perfect'. Could probably heat the plastic bottle up around your choice of adult beverage to make a tapered end so you'd end up with a male and female side, if the thin plastic can handle it without buckling or collapsing when you slip on the shop vac that is. i.gyazo.com/d810c91078d4b6d1133a242415b303f1.png

@Samlol23_drrich 4 жыл бұрын

when you cut without dust collection you cut slowly, and when the dust collector was on you cut through the wood more quickly. Everyone knows the faster you cut, the less dust you make, so I’m not sure your shroud does anything. ...... Still reading? Thanks for this video, it’s great. Obviously speed of cut has nothing to do with the amount of dust generated and it’s a joke. I’m going to make something like this thanks to your hard work.

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Samlol, definitely read your whole thing and appreciate the feedback. I accounted for what you're describing in my setup and test but didn't show it well. I should've better explained my test up front. I deliberately cut the uncollected, semi-collected and improved shroud at the exact same speed so that my test was a direct comparison of each set-up with the same variables. What you are observing (and can best tell from the sound of the saw) is sped up and cut out sections of video to compress my total 1 hour test and explaination into an 8 minute video.

@Samlol23_drrich 4 жыл бұрын

@@benchtopwoodworks no, no, no. Your video was great, well thought-out and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I watched until the very end. There shouldn't be any difference in the amount of sawdust created based on how fast or how slow the cut is made. I would think as long as it's two pieces of wood are exactly the same size. I know it is good for your KZfaq presence if people leave comments oh, so that's what I was doing. It was totally a joke based only on my desire to help you out because of your great video so thanks again

@benchtopwoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

No worries man, tried to keep it as empirical and clear as possible. Your comment was great feedback because it'll help me improve future videos when doing tests. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment, I do really appreciate it.