Exactly

Not actually, it was Jimmy Iovine who got Eminem and then he told Dre to get off of his fat ass and make beats for him. Dre always said the he was all about the money. So he put his beats and credibility behind it because he saw the money making machine.

Well… If we are talking about record sales alone, obviously white people are what makes him sell more records than anybody else. Are you really telling me that most rap fans prefer Eminem to a tribe called quest or Rakim, Biggie, or Wu-Tang?

@@randydaytona5615 I am Blac6and I don't. I am from the hood and didn't hear anybody bumping his music. I heard people bumping Biggie and Pac. I know a white chic who got a tattoo of Biggie on her back.

@hustlaus okay yeh if your getting technical, but Dre was handed infinite, Dre heard it, he thought he was good, and black, and wanted to sign him, to aftermath which he did, let's not pick holes in the story here

Lyrical skill sure..but what is he saying?.. Putting words together cool. Compare his mind to a Black Thought...see the difference.

​@@Rio-uv1gs If ignorance was a person.

Well actually rakim said that eminem doesn't get the respect he deserves because he's white. " If eminem was black they would call him the muhammad Ali of rap"

@@revenantronin8377😂😂😂100

Yep they be tripping I had to go back and listen to Biggies ready to die album the other night man lyricism is just a beautiful thing.

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Naaa bro, we don't deserve Melle Mel!!! True legend, Icon, he changed/built the culture. Without rapping about taking pills, drugs, killing the mother of his child and so on...

@@knockout4121 Em rapped about way more than that dawg. Go listen to Sing For The Moment.

@@ayeyuh6920 Of course he rapped about more then that, but he had a negative impact on the culture… Turned a bunch of young people into pill abusers

Eminem put Melle mel on his list of rappers he idolized on that hall of fame speech.... That tells you all you need to know about who's respectful and who's not. It sucks that that's the thanks he gets back

Because he’s white lol

Because they’re all jealous 😢wishing they had his same skills and because he’s white it’s a joke

Em is a legend man his lyricism is rite up there with biggie man and that is saying something. Lyrical rappers never get the respect they deserve. I love Pac but over Pac I love Biggie the way his songs painted a story one of his hardest flows was "give me the loot" if you never heard it please do Biggie making music for the radio held him back SOOOOOO much. If you have not heard Biggie's non hit song I highly recommend you check it out if you respect lyricism that shit hits till this day.

They are just jealous of and envious of em i am black love em listen to em and put him first in my top 5 he sends a positive message in his song his song not about violence but just pure positivitu him telling rappers to stop the violence they show kids because we are their favourite rappers and kids look up to us positivity and true most kids are in gang banging duee to influence of rappers him in white america talking of the differences in culture and how black people are being mistreated even before george floyds death he is the best to me

Was literally going to post this line

@@kylelayton9520 yeah that sums it up like Em knows exactly how people think that he’s white so he’s the best assumption.. it’s honestly one of his best lines it was well put together .. blowed is actually blew but fits the rhyme scheme so can’t get mad at that lol

It's because Dre had worked his magic and only needed 1 white dude to attract the white people looking to get into rap music....without Dre cosign Em never would have been as big....and without Dre and Proof support when Benzino released those tapes Em would have been cancelled

@@angk9561 Dre is a huge part of Em’s success yes and even he himself would agree to that .. however with Em’s talent I think he’d still be successful if Dre hadn’t helped .. fat Joe had a chance to sign him, perhaps another big producer, Timbaland etc Dre isn’t the only big producer out there

Yes...Em would have had a career as the white boy rapper who spits some venom...but I can't see how far joe would have made Em into a star....Dre had that plan from day 1... to tap into the white dollar through a white rapper...tell me who fat joe turned into a star?....I can't think of anyone really ..his career was so so....pun was the better rapper in that duo....tim would have done a better job but I don't think the styles would gel when I look at Ems work ....and tim a great producer but I don't think he had the power Dre had to make him more than a star....and not sure if tim would have used the same successful strategy Dre used...the thing I don't like most about Em and fans of Em is how they keep talking about his input to hip hop culture....but Em has been a pop rapper NOT a hip hop MC for a long time....he's been putting out pop tracks doing collabs with pop artists for decades...u can see and hear it in his music now....the hip hop flow and production to his music is long gone

All these black rappers pissed at the fact that a white man is able to accomplish what they can’t.

Exactly, I mean Eminem even said that the reason he wears old school hip-hop shirts is so that when his fans see his shirt they will go look that person up & see what they brought to the culture but they still just wanna trash him.....

It's jealousy.

Are you mad? Eminems pop raps only contain 1hip hop aspect. He is far removed from what hip hop truely is

@@erdevon3257 I'm glad that his career brings you so much anger that you have to go comment about it. I dont get mad at EM haters, I just laugh knowing he will never go away or drop on the charts and it will continue to piss you off 😆

Does it better, he means in record sales.

50 is FOS smh

@@g.berenstein683 He didnt say sell more

He had Kanye and Lil Wayne re do their verses.

I’m Rican and I think Em spits better than Pun and I’m a Pun Stan. The white boy is nice with it.

Well sed my man.... N don't reply to the ya won shit!!! it's a blag am sure

@@kevnormansell6005 Oh i know haha can't believe people still fall for that haha

@@LexyThomas134 eh some do hahahah

Thank you for bringing story telling into this!!! Some of his storytelling is like listening to a movie!

Stevie would decapitate him with facts, it'll be a debate between facts vs ignorance

Haha its very true. The guy talked for 3.5 seconds about actual skill (just saying he rhymes well) and then spends the rest of the time talking about him being white. If you argue that eminem doesnt deserve his spot, you at least have to argue why in terms of artistry and skill; but noone can do that...

Actually, Em&Em doesn’t have all that much rap skills. Actually, honestly the majority of Em&Em’s catalog is wack af. Melle Mel told the truth

​@@yo3rdtier128 it's funny how you can tell how dumb a person is by what they say. You, my retarded friend are what I am referring to

@@yo3rdtier128 He doesn't have much rap skills? Bro, he always finds new rhythms and flows in his songs. He can rhyme pretty much anything. He can rap fast with punchlines and make it sound enjoyable than generic Twista fast rap. He got really heavy bars and punchlines. He carries 4-6 syllable rhyme schemes in most of his songs. He is always heavy with the wordplay. Even his corny bars got wordplays. You may not like his albums. I can understand. I personally don't like Encore, Relapse, Revival, Infinite but you can't deny his skills. He is an amazing storyteller. He's a great lyricist. Listen to Caterpiller, Psychopath Killer, Medicine Man, Bad Guy, Groundhog Day, Legacy, Cold Wind Blows, Stay Wide Awake, Detroit vs. Everybody. I'm still shocked that you said Eminem doesn't have much rap skills, bruuuh... Listen to the song Shady XV which he raps quadruple entendre. The beat is trash but it's a lyrical masterpiece. He might not makes quality music but cmon he is skilled af.

Once he had to state that Eminem was white we could smell the racism in the air.

It won't be just because he's white and it's popular to hate on em, imo and the majority of us recognize em for his lyrical ability

Isn’t it just hate because he’s as good as he is? Like Tom Brady getting hate, like Lebron getting hate, like Ronaldo getting hate. Those who stand on top get hate from jealous people

Sounds like he's jealous of him because he's better Eminem is the best

It’s never gonna happen🤣🤣 but it’s only givin Em more fuel so f*ck it lol

@@mosey4121 it’s both.

I realized that.😂😅

THANK YOU !!! Bitter old man makes no sense

He needs to listen to busters interview talking about calm down

real talk . racist 80's ignorant washed up attitude .

Is thT his name

It’s called progression. I’ve always said Em is the white Tiger Woods.

Think that was Chris Rock lol

It's not because Eminem is white is because his fanbase is ridiculously biased

His lyrics are alright look up his lyrics their not that great like people make it out to be

@@Retro_Gamer_89 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ok pal 🤡

@@Retro_Gamer_89 that's an opinion

​@@Retro_Gamer_89Ok, you go make a better rap buddy... 🤦

@@Retro_Gamer_89 Why the ignorance?

Do you get hate from a lot of black people and white people?

" But if the only reason I blew up is cause I'm white then why don't every other white rappers sell what I sold? "

​@@ezekiel5687 I'm wondering the same thing

​@@brandonayong5823 100% right it's just a bunch of bull shit just because a rapper is white don't mean shit that he's going to blow up verry few did so it's just racism going the other way on EM and unfortunately that's what it is and why he don't get the respect or acalades a black rapper would get if he rapped just like EM!!! D.M.X deserves more respect and more acalades for his rap career he's in my top 7!!! R.I.P BIG DOG D.M.X!!!!

Em nor other white people are being oppressed by a washed up rapper's opinion. Most black people I've talked to give Em credit for his skills and rapping ability. It's top tier, it's just that a lot of his music doesn't have a lot of replay longevity and this is part of how a rapper's overall greatness is judged. As a DJ I can tell you, I don't play much Eminem, nor does it get requested and I spin for a diverse demographic of people. Jay Z, Biggie, Pac, Nas, Lil Wayne, LL Cool J, Dr. Dre, Snoop, Fugees, 50 Cent, OutKast... I could name more... but all these artists have at least 3 or 4 timeless tracks that you can play at most any set and get a VERY positive crowd reaction. We talking about a lot of these songs are 20 or 25 years old. Em got 1 maybe 2. You know it is what it is.

Exactly. Like Jordan and basketball

great rapper whack attatuide, most kids his age were tho

Regardless of the skin color bullshit, its the work he put in, the bars he spit are too hard that he had Kanye rewrite his verse in “Forever”. I love when he collabs with Wayne, 50, Jay and Kanye and Em just takes the stage and just multiplies the song by the 10th power bc its too good lol

Nobody cares about the racist fanbase eminem brought to hip hop..... rap was there before eminem and it was always gonna be there after him...... you got these idiots in the comment section talking about hip hop and dont even know who melly mel is or the pioneers of hip hop...... matter of fact the comment section is a perfect example why people dont take eminem serious in hip hop......

Im not from the US I live in a small country named Georgia. Noone cares what your skin color is if its a hit, its a hit. People were bumpin 50 as much as they were pumpin em, people still bop gangstas paradise and treat it as one of the best hiphop tracks ever cuz its that catchy and that dope. Make a hit and people will forget your skin color.

@@gigatoxishvili9991 I know exactly what you're saying. I'm from Romania, and could not give a rat's behind about someone's skin colour. To me Em is purple. But I grew up with Eminem, and on my worst days, his music gave me that push to keep going. And the way he spins words, multi-syllabic rhymes, doubles, triples....quadruples....i have still to see someone who can do that, flow in and out of pockets, rhyme mid-word. Does he sometimes choose weird beats? Sure, but that is another testament that he can rap on freaking nursery rhymes if he so chooses. I have to give flowers to the other rappers i grew up with, like Busta, Ice Cube, Snoop, Pac, Biggie and the list goes on. But Em...he is on another level.

​@@PsychelodeExactly this. Very wel said. And still some say he's a pop artist. Makes me really feel sad when someone wont acknowledge Em' cause he's white. 😔

they're bitter asf that they have been forgotten about and that nobody considers them the best of the best its hilarious lol

@@Ironmanpwnz If they carried themselves with dignity. They would be held aloft as true greats and respected as such. Their contribution to Hip-Hop is undeniable, but their attitudes to the generations that came after are unforgivable.

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Yup, went from liberal white women to MAGA dudes and a lot of black men lol.

I'm also assuming no one in your country knows who melle mel is huh?

Rakim King Kong rap music

to Adam) or are you one of the high exalted?" 76. [Iblis (Satan)] said: "I am better than he, You created me from fire, and You created him from clay." 77. (Allah) said: "Then get out from here, for verily, you are outcast. 78. "And verily!, My Curse is on you till the Day of Recompense." 79. [Iblis (Satan)] said: "My Lord! Give me then respite till the Day the (dead) are resurrected." 80. (Allah) said: "Verily! You are of those allowed respite 81. "Till the Day of the time appointed." 82. [Iblis (Satan)] said: "By Your Might, then I will surely mislead them all, 83. "Except Your chosen slaves amongst them (faithful, obedient, true believers of Islamic Monotheism)." 84. (Allah) said: "The Truth is, and the Truth I say, 85. That I will fill Hell with you [Iblis (Satan)] and those of them (mankind) that follow you, together." 86. Say (O Muhammad ): "No wage do I ask of you for this (the Qur'an), nor am I one of the Mutakallifun (those who pretend and fabricate things which do not exist). 87. "It (this Qur'an) is only a Reminder for all the 'Alamin (mankind and jinns). 88. "And you shall certainly know the truth of it after a while."

Agreed but I would argue that Lupe and Black Thought are more complex in there writing than Em.

@@Matthew-xl5bc Or maybe it just goes over your head

@@Matthew-xl5bc Lupe is more complex and lyrical than Eminem and his music is more palatable to boot. Also remember, Lupe doesn't write anymore he freestyles/punches in like Jay Z and Lil Wayne. He even made a song "Precious Things" that alludes to that fact. That makes Lupe even more impressive imo

@@ClifffSVK Lupe and Thought are more complex rappers than Em. They both use more metaphors and make more historical references than Em makes in his music. Rhyming isn’t the only aspect of complex lyricism.

@@Matthew-xl5bc He doesn't do that on every song, but he can get just as complex or even more.

That confirms what Melly Mel is saying right now. Think about it. 🤔

@@BlackMusicGenre what I mean is if it wasn't for eminem alot of people wouldn't have even checked out hip hop

@officialstevieknight.. .

Who do you listen to?

@@Python-xs2iv 50- lil wayne - Royce- kendrick and loads more

Yelawolf is slept on tho

Em does get disrespected. But only caise he's the best. And he stoll relevant... this guy isn't

If Eminem was black he'd be just another technically skilled underground rapper who might've seen briefly some mainstream.... just might've.

If Eminem were black, he would be as popular as Royce da 5'9" is now, which is not very popular.

@@James-pl5uc Yeah. Royce has been in the public eye since 98.

It bugs me that he lowkey uses some of his best lines in freestyles

@@benjaminkukkola8754 what line did he use? What song is this from?

And why would his "impact would be a lot lowered" ? So his whiteness played a major key in his success, right ?

There was already Rap music in other parts of the world, way before Eminem. For instance, hip hop landed in Paris in 1983.

If little Wayne was white he would be classed as shit because ems definitely got more skills

I see your point about Em fans being fans of Em and not hip hop. But, I believe that is short sighted. I was a fan of LL, RunDMC, Eazy, Pac, Dre, Snoop long before I ever fucked with Em. But, because of eminem I am now a fan of Rakim, Redman, 50, Royve Kendrick, J Cole, and so many others that I would have never fucked with if not for Em. That is the impact he has had on Hip Hop for me and probably for millions of others who would have never experienced that if not for Eminem using his music to endorse them.

“You don’t get your flowers til you’re pushing up daisies, and that’s about all your ashes earn” ⚱️

that doesn’t mean theres racist ppl out here & some in the media that diminish Tiger at ever my chance

Because people's bais outpace there intelligence