Episode 83 Shelby Drop & Negative camber Wedge Kit Install and explanation Autorestomod

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This week we finish the install of the . National Parts Depot Negative Camber Wedge Kit. We explain the difference between a Shelby Drop and the Negative Camber Wedge. We show you how to safely install coil springs, as well as how to put the Negative Camber Wedge kit on any Mustang, Falcon or Fairlane upper control arm. Next week we Talk Dash pads and column installs.
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1965-66 Mustang 1960-65 Falcon Comet alignment specs
1. NO more than .25 degrees difference between driver’s side and passenger’s side.
2. +2.0 to +3.5 degrees caster.
NOTE: for cars with Adjustable strut rods. Please attain as much caster as possible using the shims (at least 1.5 to 2.0 degrees), and then use the adjustable strut rods to increase the caster and make the sides the same. Also, please note that the caster difference between the driver’s side and passenger’s side needs to have no more .25 degrees difference prior to the adjustment of the strut rods.
3. -.5 to 0 degrees camber. No positive camber, please. There is no problem having a slight variation from driver’s side to passenger’s side to account for the crown in the road.
4. 1/16" to 1/8” toe in
1967-70 Mustang 1967-70 Cougar alignment specs
1. NO more than .25 degrees difference between driver’s side and passenger’s side.
2. +2.0 to +3.5 degrees caster.
3. -.5 to 0 degrees camber. No positive camber, please. There is no problem having a slight variation from driver’s side to passenger’s side to account for the crown in the road.
4. 1/16" to 1/8” toe in
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@sabledriver 10 жыл бұрын

Fantastic demo on what the 1 inch drop does for the suspension. Very good visual aid!

@AutoRestoMod 10 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@AutoRestoMod 12 жыл бұрын

You are welcome! We'll have some more Camaro videos coming soon. Vous êtes les bienvenus! Nous aurons encore plus de vidéos Camaro à venir.

@AutoRestoMod 11 жыл бұрын

We are happy to report that you are not blind. Ford, Chrysler and GM used drum brakes on pretty much everything right on up into the '70s; disc brakes were usually an option and we've seen big block cars (428 cid) with non-power drum brakes. And honestly, a well set up drum brakes system will out stop a Disc system under normal daily driver conditions. We plan to investigate this in the near future.

@AutoRestoMod 12 жыл бұрын

Cecil, Since this is a driver, we went with the standard perches. We plan to do a rollerized suspension from Open Tracker Racing on our 1964 Falcon Hardtop. We'll also do a '65 Falcon steering upgrade as well. All in due time...=)

@okaufmac 11 жыл бұрын

Would love to see a vid dedicated to lowering!

@cecil6711 12 жыл бұрын

Super video guys. Did you use standard spring perches with rubber or did you go with the rollerized perches?

@lodebmongueychannel4390 12 жыл бұрын

hello, I love your videos, I restore one camaro 1967 SS396 and I look and I listen to your advice with great interest. I specify that I am French that my car is from California, I restore only without skills but with love and passion, sorry for the rough translation google translation but still my friend. Thank you for your videos and tips.

@SvntyStang 12 жыл бұрын

Love the vids! How long should it take for the front to ride down with the new springs?

@jevchance 12 жыл бұрын

Great episode. Now you can do the 1" Shelby drop alone, or you can do it with the Negative Wedge kit right? What are the differences? I'm not going for track-car handling, I mostly want the suspension drop. :)

@AutoRestoMod 12 жыл бұрын

The term "Shelby Drop" is kind of a misnomer. The drop is actually in reference to the inner mount for the upper control arm. While it does provide a drop (1/4-3/4-inch usually) it is not a significant one. Fatman Fabricators (Google them) sells a drop spindle that uses a Granada brake conversion--so you'll have to source the brakes. I think we'll do a show on lowering cars because there seems to be a lot of interest in this.

@MrSticks9999 4 жыл бұрын

My experience with doing these upper control arm relocations is you end up with about a 5/8" actual drop. This means the body of the car drops about 5/8". That is sally advantageous , but the better geometry of the UCA is the biggest advantage.

@aaroncake 11 жыл бұрын

A good tip with the drill bits is to use a cordless drill on the low speed. Put a bit of oil around the hole and on the bit. The slower speed and the oil won't burn up bits like the corded electric will and you'll get a better hole.

@sacooper802 8 жыл бұрын

like you said a 1" shelby drop or less you dont need a wedge kit, just if you go more than 1" drop, i suggest you edit your video to remove the mistake you made by leaving in the drill template. thats just a template used to locate the new holes based off the old holes, i know you guys are aware now but should make it clear to any future viewers. i live just minutes from john at open track racing, i highly recommend using some of his products, great products, i boxed my upper and lower control arms as well and open track racing has those plates to box your control arms, these are all the tricks that the boss 302 race version did back in the day for trans am racing.

@Galactusz007 Жыл бұрын

Agreed,

@hotrodray6802 4 ай бұрын

Never forget that Holman Moody invented it for their rally Falcons.

@AutoRestoMod 4 ай бұрын

Klaus Arning was the creator of the "Shelby Drop", We used that term because that's what most people know it as.

@lechetoni 12 жыл бұрын

jefff i saw u in a episode of overhaulin , of course it was recorded a long time ago but i just saw the episode,

@AutoRestoMod 12 жыл бұрын

Not sure honestly. A few days to a week of driving. But that will depend on how much you are out in the car.

@ESaenz-yf8so 11 жыл бұрын

I always wondered how Dr. Phil would look like if he was Mexican. haha jk. Great work! you guys have the best automotive channel!!

@AutoRestoMod 12 жыл бұрын

They should be back up soon.

@sesenta9 5 жыл бұрын

great video. but my question is if this kit can be use on 65 comet caliente V8?

@AutoRestoMod 5 жыл бұрын

We'll be hitting on that on Manic Mechanic Next Tuesday 3.19.19. Yes, the bolt on brakes will bolt up. Be sure that you retain the original spindles as they are quite specific to the '65-'66 Mustang, 1965 Falcon and Comet.

@PHCBILL 12 жыл бұрын

Applepletick???Wow, I didn't even have a fever with it( I don't thimk) It boils down to respect your tools which Jeff, I know you do. Centering punches usually come in 1/64" increments like a drill bit set, and as you stated are for marking/finding a more accurate center so you can make a more pronounced center mark for drilling.

@AutoRestoMod 11 жыл бұрын

We'll get that into the Q.

@evantugby 4 жыл бұрын

Your video shows replacing the upper control arm rivets with bolts. Can you replace the lower control arm rivets with bolts as well?

@AutoRestoMod 12 жыл бұрын

LOL but I didn't have the Phil Donahue glasses!

@majortomtogc 12 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed the videos (82 and 83). Too bad NPD shows all the kits as out of stock and unavailable.:(

@edgarlopez3622 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I have a 67 coupe I did Shelby drop use the negative wedge kit... But I use a 2006 16 inches wheels with a Spacers... The handling is better but... I'm not completely satisfied... Do you think is maybe coz the newer wheels and spacers?? If I go back to 14 or 16 and less offset will improve even more??? Thanks for your time!!

@AutoRestoMod 2 жыл бұрын

The wheels shouldn't negatively effect the handling. I'd look into a set of Open Tracker Racing spring perches.

@hotrodray6802 4 ай бұрын

Bump steer kit

@christopherbritz1786 3 жыл бұрын

I'm confused on why you're drilling out the old control arm and new ball joints from the NPD kit for the kit's bigger bolt. Why wouldn't the kit already have the bolt size drilled it already on the ball joint that it supplied? Also, can you reuse the ball joint from the existing control arm instead of the one from the kit? What's the advantages of using the new one?

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

The fact that we went with the deeper race position causes damage to the ball joint if the wedge is not installed. we went with the manufacturers recommendations and parts because that is what they require. The drilling is because of the wedge, it set the ball joint at an angle to the arm.

@chrish883 3 жыл бұрын

I'm confused. Does the 1inch drop give the - camber? I thought - camber was bringing in the upper arm

@AutoRestoMod 3 жыл бұрын

Watch Episode 82 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nbylmqeixru7aYE.html The link will take you to the explanation of the drop and how it works.

@nicholasdramesi8571 9 жыл бұрын

Great video guys, but aren't you suppose to remove the template before putting the upper control arm back on? All other instructions I see say to remove the template and use it for future applications. It would explain why your positive camber was so drastic at the end of the video. Keeping that plate in is like adding multiple shims to the alignment. I'm assuming the alignment shop was able to correct this by removing the majority of your shims, but some cars might not start with enough shims to over-correct this problem.

@AutoRestoMod 9 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Dramesi Can do, And yes the alignment shop fixed it.

@ludizbib 11 жыл бұрын

am i blind or those are drum brakes in front? O.o something i didn't know about american cars

@umangu 4 жыл бұрын

We are all here watching the Shelby drop even though 9:38

@AutoRestoMod 4 жыл бұрын

Well...it's true you know.

@miketakacs4701 Жыл бұрын

Instead of a Shelby drop you should be replacing the useless drum brakes. Let’s call it a Shelby stop.

@kichigaisensei 8 жыл бұрын

I'd spend my money putting some decent brakes on that thing. Just sayin.

@AutoRestoMod 8 жыл бұрын

+kichigaisensei We upgraded to discs in the front a little further on in the series.

@fknows1 5 жыл бұрын

like your clips. but why do you guys waffle on with so much shit. and stuff around getting to the point and end result. 1/2 hr of clips how too fit a wedge kit. and than not show the finish result.

@AutoRestoMod 5 жыл бұрын

Well, things are different now. That was episode 83, we're at 412. Things change.