Episode 9's BIGGEST problem

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The Second Son

The Second Son

Жыл бұрын

On this video we discuss Sunday's episode of House of the Dragon 'The Green Council' and the major change HBO decided to make. Be sure to give me your thoughts in the comment section, like the video and SUBSCRIBE to the channel!
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@TamaraPizhadze
@TamaraPizhadze Жыл бұрын
This event could play in The Green's favor and the story. When Rhaenys joins team Black, the people will remember how little Team Black cares for them, and the people of Kings Landing will side with Team Green because they didn't slaughter hundreds of people to have a girl boss moment...yet.
@LH74
@LH74 Жыл бұрын
The female feminist writer saying “wouldn’t it be cool to have the dragon break out through the floor!!” sounds a lot like when Weiss said “we need a god damn polar bear!!” 😂💦
@TheeSecondSon
@TheeSecondSon Жыл бұрын
Bro right ! Same vibes! 😂 that lady’s such a doofus
@badyoutuber1986
@badyoutuber1986 4 ай бұрын
When i saw the clip the first word in my inner dialog was feminist 😂 is that wrong?
@tereza1959
@tereza1959 Жыл бұрын
You know what's worse? The scene was supposed to be even more brutal, they deleted scenes of Meleys crushing the smallfolk crowd during the coronation scene, but it was supposed to be much worse, also, saying that the smallfolk don't matter, especially during the Dance, it's foolish, it's the smallfolk that will kill most dragons in the end.
@yardknight4953
@yardknight4953 Жыл бұрын
That was karma for how often the small folk are regarded by the high lords.
@katiemartin6991
@katiemartin6991 Жыл бұрын
It would've made the most sense to have Rhaenys emerge from below the floor with the intent to kill them all, only for Sunfyre to attack Meleys and force her to flee. Mercilessly crushing the smallfolk makes more sense if she already has murder on her mind, and it would be a good way to introduce Sunfyre (who is debatably the most important dragon in the Dance of the Dragons).
@jdftrains3507
@jdftrains3507 Жыл бұрын
I saw this scene as a perfect opportunity to introduce sunfyre, I mean why wouldn't he be at the coronation? It would also give a better reason for meleys not to burn the greens considering they would have sunfyre there to intervene.
@yasmina3999
@yasmina3999 Жыл бұрын
Sunfyre AND Dreamfyre
@kimberlyplatt2382
@kimberlyplatt2382 Жыл бұрын
Rhaenys: Its not my war to start. Audience and Daemon: You do know that your granddaughters, my daughters will be marrying my niece/wife sons right?
@Tormund_Giantsbrain
@Tormund_Giantsbrain Жыл бұрын
The sword crossing, the tapestry, the bagpipes playing “king’s arrival” from GoT, proud Otto enjoying his life’s work, the veiled & somber Queen kissing the King, the Septons marking his forehead...I was blown away by the details in the coronation. It felt like watching Nicholas II being crowned in an Orthodox ceremony with all the hollow pomp & circumstance of a rotting system. It's what I'd always envisioned from a GoT coronation. TGC was terrific in bringing out Aegon's fear, hesitation, pride & euphoria all at once. He’s got a sadness about him you only see in catholic stained glass windows. The much despised Criston putting the Conqueror's crown on Aegon II's head. The Kingmaker is born! "Reluctance to murder is not a weakness" is the very dilemma at the heart of asoiaf. The aesthetics of Hightower KL, already so soulless, so dark and dreary. Love it! What the show's doing really well is the details, down to splitting the treasury or locking up servants. Usually the passionate debates, the sense of treachery, the heartbreak are glossed over & we only see the regime change as a "fait accompli". This bring to life the mechanism that historically goes behind a coup, which I assume is as emotionally taxing for the people seizing power. That's why I like agonized & conflicted Alicent more than her steadfast source counterpart. It's more flesh & blood. She vacillates but her messianic fear for her children fates her to make a cursed gamble. And then Rhaenys happened....oh well, we can't have everything in life I guess.
@TheeSecondSon
@TheeSecondSon Жыл бұрын
Duudee 🙌 The attention to details and actual love for fantasy elements in HOTD was TOP notch. You’re stating facts haha . Thanks for tuning in man ! 💚🐉
@essenby123
@essenby123 Жыл бұрын
There was literally another exit for Rhaenys to take (seen in episode one TWICE) she CHOSE to kill hundreds of innocents so she could make a meaningless statement to the Greens... If they really wanted to give her a moment, have it be as Aegon is doing his victory lap after the coronation on Sunfyre. Have her and Meleys swipe by him or roar at him as a threat and statement as everyone watches... foreshadowing not only Rook's Rest but the Dance of Dragons itself... but no we can't show Aegon's strong bond with his dragon yet (even though his banner is literally the golden dragon Sunfyre).
@theduxabides9274
@theduxabides9274 Жыл бұрын
"It's not her war to start" Well she DID start a war now; Rhaenys aligns herself with the Blacks, so the fact that she directly threatened the lives of the king and his family, and killed huge numbers of nobles and small folk in the process, means that she has already declared war no matter how much copium the writers try to huff. It'll be interesting to see how they handle this in season 2, if at all
@joshuaadams6565
@joshuaadams6565 Жыл бұрын
Makes more sense why they actually kill Rhaenys now. I always thought they were way too quick to actually kill their own family member in the book. But now it adds more complexity to Rooks rest for me.
@theduxabides9274
@theduxabides9274 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuaadams6565 Pretty sure Rook's Rest was just a trap set for any Black dragon riders that were sent to aid the Crownlanders supporting Rhaenyra
@BryndenBloodraven
@BryndenBloodraven Жыл бұрын
This scene is the most unrealistic thing htod did. I hated this part ,the episode should have ended on Aegon taking cheers from crowd.
@yardknight4953
@yardknight4953 Жыл бұрын
@2:53 reading the last part of Hess' statement, "...it's the Game of Thrones." As Varys said, it's always the small folk that suffer the most during the high lords' game of thrones. To the high lords the small folk are fodder.
@LH74
@LH74 Жыл бұрын
Great video. 👌 Everything you said is 100% on point.
@durrangodsgrief6503
@durrangodsgrief6503 5 ай бұрын
ok actually in the books balerion the dragon larger than vhaegar could fit in the pit now I dont know if the pit is the same size as the books but if it is then wow
@Rhaenyra679
@Rhaenyra679 Жыл бұрын
Nine episode is one of the most stupid script and baseless moments
@lukaszzylik4437
@lukaszzylik4437 Жыл бұрын
The smallfolk absolutely don't matter in Game of Thrones. Any scene in flea bottom in the books confirms this. Characters like Varys, Cersei, and Littlefinger comment on it all the time. The good kings ignore them, the bad ones actively harm them. The Targerayans were especially known for this. Rheanyra raising taxes to the worse they'd ever been is one of the reasons she gets deposed. When you say in your video that the smallfolk matter because they kill the dragons, that is wrong. They kill the dragons as a consequence of the fact that they don't matter. The Rhyneas scene is fine in itself. My problem is that I doubt the writers will explore its consequences the way GRRM obsessively does. If they make that scene a big part of the reason why the smallfolk turn on The Blacks and explore the ramifications of what she did then I think it's a great scene.
@khfan4life365
@khfan4life365 Ай бұрын
How did Rhaenys not break her head by doing that stunt?
@syedshakaibanwar2698
@syedshakaibanwar2698 25 күн бұрын
Still baffles me that they removed Sunfyre for THIS bs.
@anthonywarren9885
@anthonywarren9885 7 ай бұрын
Kinda sick and tired of people complaining about a magical creature wrecking havoc in an enclosed arena with people getting killed in a show where people die all the time.
@yhvvcbhjjggjk-id1re
@yhvvcbhjjggjk-id1re Жыл бұрын
Fair point episode 9 is the worst episode
@yhvvcbhjjggjk-id1re
@yhvvcbhjjggjk-id1re Жыл бұрын
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