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@anthonisa5186
@anthonisa5186 Сағат бұрын
the greens are power grasper, they caused the dance, betrayed the last order of the king and started their reign with murder and kinslaying. Aemon was beyond disrispectful claiming a dragon not too long after the rider death, in her house , spitting on the velaryion hospitality. Aegon 2 was not groomed to be king, he was a puppet of Otto, a second son who wanted more than he deserved. Rhaenyra got mad after the Green usurped her, caused her daughter death and killed her sons, . The green would never have reigned, since their allies were with them only for interest while the black allies went with honor, keeping the word that "all the lords" spoke to Viserys about fealty to her daughter. Daemon had all his right since Viserys was helped became king by him and received nothing but scorn when otto likened him to Maegor, the king did not dissolve his marriage and never helped durin the stepstones war. The Blacks most horrifing things were done in retaliation, do remember that. Aegon like Bobby B, a drunk, whoreman, not fit to be a king, Aemon a Kinslayer, a madman , from the start, while the Velaryion brothers never did anything to shame their houses... And to be clear, most of the green supporter fans, are just liking ser crispin and aemond, like a woman who after being beaten returns to the same man...(Sansa/Joffrey) Even Helena disliked Aegon...
@samanthaedwards6154
@samanthaedwards6154 Күн бұрын
Not gonna lie this is literal propaganda. The books tell a bias story against team black first of all and second rhenerya doesn’t care if her sons don’t think she’s a queen she’s a selfless person and if team black didn’t win the greens would of killed her kids and most likely everybody associated with team black. The green also didn’t care about women being on the throne or not Otto had his daughter Marry viserys to put the hightowers in power more so they wanted aegon because he didn’t want to be king meaning the hightowers would basically be running the kingdom. I also don’t think people died the way they said they did in the books, because again the people keeping history and telling the stories in the first place are team green supporters. The blacks literally won and it’s because the children of the forest helped them
@syedshakaibanwar2698
@syedshakaibanwar2698 5 күн бұрын
No way Syrax's eggs hatched into Dany's dragons lol, they are both different kinds of dragons.
@syedshakaibanwar2698
@syedshakaibanwar2698 5 күн бұрын
Still baffles me that they removed Sunfyre for THIS bs.
@aditibisht22
@aditibisht22 8 күн бұрын
Hate Daemon
@DarkKing009
@DarkKing009 10 күн бұрын
The Targaryen were leech Lords, landlords of a foreign people. Refusing to interact or breed with them to keep their blood pure from the commons. Jaehaerys the conciliator was the first true ruler of a people and not some landlord with a dragon
@tiziankempe4890
@tiziankempe4890 10 күн бұрын
That's fucking hot lol
@EE12345
@EE12345 10 күн бұрын
Omg so hot they're meant for each other 😍😍😍 You shippers are so delusional lmao
@Kuiugcz2
@Kuiugcz2 11 күн бұрын
I only support them because of my crush Aegon II Well also because daemon is an a**hole
@9xprincess
@9xprincess 12 күн бұрын
If you applied Rhoynar customs to the Blacks Aegon III would inherit before Baela because he is the closest alive kin to the monarch. Even if Aegon III/Viserys II line is extinct it would go to Jaehaera because she is the only living child of Rhaenyra’s siblings. Baelea would only inherit if the line of King Viserys I is no more. Also the Dance of the Dragons established agnatic/salic primogeniture that totally excludes women all together, way more misogynistic than the male-preference primogeniture of Andal custom. Ironically that actually follows the examples established by King Jaehaerys that put Viserys on the throne but that Rhaenyra was trying to completely ignore one time for herself. In Dorne there is generally less social stigma towards bastards and they aren’t seen as inherently treacherous but they are still not official members of the house and this are not a part of the line of succession. They’re essentially treated like children of morganatic marriages.
@aplusrecommends9406
@aplusrecommends9406 14 күн бұрын
Dany descends from rhaenyra and daemon's line. End of story.
@in_vas_por8810
@in_vas_por8810 14 күн бұрын
0:15 He doesn't believe in dreams, but they're the only reason hes even alive to say that.
@jordanb8712
@jordanb8712 15 күн бұрын
Loved the scene in season 2 episode 2 where he throws a glass and she flinches. That tells you everything you need to know. Yes they do love each other, but this is a pure toxic love.
@archmaester6594
@archmaester6594 15 күн бұрын
The Greens: [kill Aegon and put Rhaenyra's son on the throne to avoid being killed by the Blacks] The Blacks [who were about to siege King's Landing to kill the Greens and put Rhaenyra's son on the throne]: Fine, we'll call this a draw.
@kyrotv8156
@kyrotv8156 17 күн бұрын
He is SO hot
@khfan4life365
@khfan4life365 21 күн бұрын
How did Rhaenys not break her head by doing that stunt?
@Nich287
@Nich287 21 күн бұрын
🧀🩸🧀🩸😵
@TheHardway1916
@TheHardway1916 22 күн бұрын
Also it's implied that maybe those sons are strong 's and not valerians who aren't black so it's not obvious like on the show so they had no DNA and no way to tell so wrong again
@jaredbrick4722
@jaredbrick4722 23 күн бұрын
If Aegon had an heir after the war, that heir would have ruled the 7 kingdoms. That's proof that the greens won. The only reason Aegon iii was king after is because there were no Targaryens left
@RottenRose
@RottenRose 23 күн бұрын
There is no hatred here; he leans in too close, as if he wants to kiss. They are both impulsive dragons.
@theinfamousplz6983
@theinfamousplz6983 Ай бұрын
In the books, it wasn't 100% sure Rhaenyra children were bstards (it was assumed, hinted at because of how Lenor lived, his lifestyle), remember, Rhaenys was dark haired and eyed; so, the children could have taken after the Baratheons; but, like Viserys said (in the show), regardless of their father, they are of Valyrian blood, so, it truly didn't matter... Even after Agone became an adult, Viserys didn't change, making him his heir because Rhaenyra was the lesser əvil of the two...
@miracle9158
@miracle9158 11 күн бұрын
They were bastrds even in the book
@dchhhadarklight2428
@dchhhadarklight2428 Ай бұрын
I'm not saying team Black won because of Aegon III getting the throne. I say team Black won because of Daemon having the most kids alive by the end. All the Targaryens who survived the Dance were Aegon III, Viserys II, Baela, Rhaena, and Jaehaera. Basically the only targs left were Daemon's kids and Jaehaera who would get pushed into spikes within two years anyway. Do you see what I'm getting at, as Daemon was the only person who won the Dance in any capacity and Daemon supported team Black, on a technicallity standpoint Team Black won.
@dchhhadarklight2428
@dchhhadarklight2428 Ай бұрын
Which side should be supported is pretty much which source is canon which are the books. In the show I support team green out of a combination of pity, Daemon being the worst, and Rhaenyra sleeping around I guess. In the books however lets go down the list which I believe gives team Black the moral and legal high ground 1. Unlike in the show, Alicent definitely spread rumors that a nine year old Rhaenyra slept around, to make things worse for all we know Jacaerys, Lucerys, and Joffrey were legitimate blood related children of Laenor. 2. Unlike in the show Alicent definitely has been planning the coup for years 3. By the exact same rules the greens upheld, near the end of the war, the greens would not be on the throne after Aegon II as Maelor was torn to shreads, Aegon II was likely infertile after being burned alive, and the other two sons of Alicent were quite literally dead in a ditch. 4. Literally the entire nation swore oaths and team green killed pretty much anyone who tried to keep said oath.
@emanuelebizzarri16
@emanuelebizzarri16 Ай бұрын
Everything is right but you are forgetting that Viserys choose Rhaenyra as his heir and never changes idea till death. so the greens were unloyal to the crown and committed treason when they decide to go against the will of the king and conspirate for killing the daughter of the king and crown Aegon. we could say that Viserys was wrong choosing Rhaenyra as his heir and if he nominated Aegon as his heir there would be no war. Deamon is psycho but he would never go in war against the willing of Viserys. the same for Rhaenyra and the Velaryons.
@Saarthak_K
@Saarthak_K Ай бұрын
Team Green Forever 💚
@closequarters4575
@closequarters4575 Ай бұрын
In the end the right person sat the Iron Throne and the dragons got killed off. Happy ending.
@smchtrd
@smchtrd Ай бұрын
I wished daemon was the king
@jarlyespinal
@jarlyespinal Ай бұрын
Rhaenyra was next in line for the throne, if she was male her children would be heir to the throne. They were trying to establish equal rights, morally the blacks are just, but by law the greens are in the right. But I say laws are sometimes created to subjugate and control others. Just because it's law dosent mean it's right.
@ryankwon8785
@ryankwon8785 Ай бұрын
The problem I have with House of the Dragon is that the showrunner was too biased by heroicly supporting the Blacks and villainizing the Greens. From the Fire and Blood books, it is the other way around as the Blacks, under Rhaenyra, were incompetent political leaders and only succeed in military ventures. It got so bad that Corlys defected to the Greens which says something if the smartest Velaryon chose to leave Rhaenyra's side. The Greens have their own ambitions and faults but Rhaenyra was a terrible ruler and a tyrant. In addition, prior to the Drance of the Dragons, the Blacks were never involved in Westeros' governance which was mostly done by the Green leaders.
@via-anghelmagahum2586
@via-anghelmagahum2586 Ай бұрын
Daemon is a domestic abuser. Why do Black stans keep defending him?!!!
@chasemorello60
@chasemorello60 Ай бұрын
🀄🐉🀄
@zainyVEVO
@zainyVEVO Ай бұрын
Can you do more long form content? This was one of the best I’ve seen especially with the background sounds
@zainyVEVO
@zainyVEVO Ай бұрын
This video was excellent
@wadej56
@wadej56 Ай бұрын
I disagree. Your making it something that it’s not, and looking to deeply into it just to make yourself look correct. All the greens die, the blacks take over and are the last ones standing. Hence the blacks won.
@miracle9158
@miracle9158 Ай бұрын
The war was between aegon and rynra who will rule and aegon was the last one standing he could have killed aegon iii with his mother but he didn’t because he needs an heir aegon I got killed by his own men it wasn’t a plan from the blacks
@MsEnglishtea
@MsEnglishtea Ай бұрын
I don't, but I did enjoy the video. I enjoyed hearing it from the other side.❤
@khfan4life365
@khfan4life365 2 ай бұрын
It’s astounding how people acted like a kid mounting a dragon was more inconsiderate than Daemon mounting Rhaenyra right after his wife died. Like bruh 💀
@axolotl1777
@axolotl1777 2 ай бұрын
Wh*re queen or rap*st king what a choice 🤣
@khfan4life365
@khfan4life365 2 ай бұрын
Even Emma D'Arcy sympathized with Alicent when Aemond got his eye gouged. As she so perfectly said, Rhaenyra in that moment learned she could weaponize "treason" to her benefit.
@khfan4life365
@khfan4life365 2 ай бұрын
I see people comparing Alicent to Cersei, but it's clear that Rhaenyra was more like Cersei than Alicent was. Rhaenyra had three obvious bastard children. So did Cersei. Rhaenyra was willing to wage war to put her illegitimate children in the line of succession. So did Cersei. Rhaenyra had sexual relations with a family member. So did Cersei. The only reason Alicent was fighting was because she wanted to keep her children alive. Even if she didn't want to do it, Rhaenyra would have to kill her siblings so her claim wouldn't be questioned. Robert did the same thing, even though he didn't want to do it.
@khfan4life365
@khfan4life365 2 ай бұрын
I’m sorry. I’m gonna say it. Where was Rhaenyra during those six years? Why didn’t she even attempt to go visit her beloved father who was in agony during the last years of his life? She only visited when her privilege was at risk.
@khfan4life365
@khfan4life365 2 ай бұрын
What’s scary is that Rhaenyra barely seemed fazed by Daemon laying his hands on her like that. It makes you wonder how often he did that to her. 😳
@THEINVISIBLEWARRIORR
@THEINVISIBLEWARRIORR 28 күн бұрын
Often? He never did this before to her
@Janaparnikova
@Janaparnikova 11 күн бұрын
Please. He absolutely 100% did​@@THEINVISIBLEWARRIORR
@THEINVISIBLEWARRIORR
@THEINVISIBLEWARRIORR 11 күн бұрын
@@Janaparnikova that’s bullshit and you know it
@bgos4727
@bgos4727 7 күн бұрын
​@@THEINVISIBLEWARRIORRare you fr? He abuse and kill his first wife and verbally abuse the second. It's not surprising at all
@THEINVISIBLEWARRIORR
@THEINVISIBLEWARRIORR 7 күн бұрын
@@bgos4727 Abuse? First he didn’t even was around his first wife, and he never abused anyone, you must be gen z
@marquisereid894
@marquisereid894 2 ай бұрын
Only one side has commit murder against the kings council, killing innocent in order to strengthen your claim is where the greens crossed the line, bastard children doesn't give them the right to usurp the throne, they should have taken the Ned route, and faced the consequences, find proof, or except your new Queen and respect your old Kings wishes
@kittycheshire5099
@kittycheshire5099 2 ай бұрын
When you play the game of thrones you either win or you die. Rhaenyra died, therefore she did not win. That’s just how it works.
@lordbrowning
@lordbrowning 2 ай бұрын
I support team Green for two reasons 1. Alicent always did her duty for her family and for her king. Rhaenyra always shirked her duty and did as she desired. Rhaenyra expected all seven kingdoms to go along with her being the heir even though she did very little to shore up alliances and support outside her own family and friends. Alicent put a lot of work into getting the best possible outcome for her children. 2. Aemond
@seansmith9941
@seansmith9941 2 ай бұрын
Ok lets put it like this the best claim the greens have is that 1. Women can't inherit a crown 2. Rhaenyra's kids are illegitimate. for starters i am not calling Rhaenyra a saint...she was far from it and as the war dragged on she made many horrible and evil decisions that marked how the people looked at her...along with the fact she was quite a terrible leader for the short time she was. first off the greens started this war and there isn't any doubt and none can even remotely deny it. in the books the green's selfishness is further showed when not only did Viserys never start dreaming about the prophesy and confuse alicent into thinking Aegon was the Heir witch started the war in the show. in the books Alicent waits for Viserys to die then right away try's to overthrow Rhaenyra's claim, along with Otto and nearly all of the small council. second Aemond killed Lucerys and unless the entire green faction were completely stupid they all knew that Rhaenyra would never forgive this and she didn't. Rhaenyra rejected her stepmother’s proposal with scorn. “Your sons might have had places of honor at my court if they had kept faith,” Her Grace declared, “but they sought to rob me of my birthright, and the blood of my sweet sons is on their hands.” Alicent is also a complete hypocrite she is enraged with Rhaenyra's actions but she is fine displaying her godamn feet to Larys strong... The Great council of 101 never stated nor authorized its right to overrule the actions of kings and there choices to whom would succeed them weather that be a man or a women. Why should Viserys pay lip service to long rotting old men. Viserys had every right to decide who would succeeded him and upon ascending the throne so did Rhaenyra... the difference between Jace and Luke and Joffrey and Tommen and Mycelia is that not only did Robert not know they were Bastards and unlike Viserys who was well aware of it and choose to allow them to succeed him... not only that but Viserys had all the lords swear an oath to the heir so if we want to go back to old laws then by that definition all of those lords are traitors. this video was good dude👍👍 and in all truth both sides committed terrible acts!!
@frankiejerardenno2678
@frankiejerardenno2678 2 ай бұрын
Don't you see , allowing women will bring in more peace and prosperity, change ignorant male thinking....
@frankiejerardenno2678
@frankiejerardenno2678 2 ай бұрын
DUMB BRING on the WOMEN- NEW❤
@MrJaxon620
@MrJaxon620 3 ай бұрын
What about what the actual king wanted? Does that not factor in your equation?
@apexq1068
@apexq1068 2 ай бұрын
So you support the mad king?
@loadingerror9975
@loadingerror9975 3 ай бұрын
Idk. As a green simp and shill I’m hoping that the show will have more to make it truly bipartisan. It’s an issue I have with George’s writing. He claims to hate the idea of good vs evil while always having a moral good side vs bad in his own books with as much nuance as the orcs vs the rest of middle earth in Lott
@vitorfreitas1682
@vitorfreitas1682 19 күн бұрын
The WW are literally climatic Nazgûl pal
@emilyfrigge
@emilyfrigge 3 ай бұрын
Idk a small child getting killed in front of its mother after a bit of psychological torture to a mentally unwell woman is still extremely fucked up regardless of how close we are to the characters imo
@molcoo
@molcoo 2 ай бұрын
I think you're missing the whole point of this video though. The scene will be shocking, true, buit it'll be surface-level shock value. It won't have anywhere near the same emotiional impact that made the Red Wedding so iconic and gave it a lasting legacy. GOT audiences were highly emotionally invested in Robb and Catelyn's characters and just the Starks in general (Arya being there made it a thousand times more emotional)