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The Second Son

The Second Son

Жыл бұрын

As House of the Dragon episode 8 released this past Sunday, I wanted to get this review out for you all; the Team Green way of course. I hope y’all enjoy the video! Be sure to like, comment & SUBCRIBE to the channel! Help me reach my first KZfaq goal of 1,000 subscribers which is where I'll stream the channel's first live video in celebration of the 'One-Thousand Subscriber' milestone!
Well thanks for tuning in, & I'll see you in my next video. Later, & Peace Out! ✌️

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@illmilfinestke
@illmilfinestke Жыл бұрын
Yo when he gives the Strong speech the way Aegon throws up his cup is the funniest thing in the show😂
@TheeSecondSon
@TheeSecondSon Жыл бұрын
Right 😂that’s one cool dude lol
@cheshirevixen8881
@cheshirevixen8881 Жыл бұрын
And then slamming Luke into the table before he can even get near Aemond. Such a supportive brother 😂😂
@MrFredstt
@MrFredstt 8 ай бұрын
It's moments like that that makes me think Aegon took what Alicent said to him about supporting his brother to heart
@yardknight4953
@yardknight4953 Жыл бұрын
One thing that irked me was how Luke couldn't attempt an apology to Aemond at dinner. Yes it wouldn't bring back the eye, but at least admit he did hi wrong.
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 Жыл бұрын
Facts. Instead he laughed at him. And then got called out HARD.
@danika9411
@danika9411 Жыл бұрын
I would not be able to look at Aemond if I'd be Luke.
@MrFredstt
@MrFredstt 8 ай бұрын
Literally no one ever did anything to show Aemond they cared except for his mother. Rhaenyra even wanted the poor kid to be tortured. It's really no surprise he grew up to absolutely hate Luke and Rhaenyra
@carrorallison7656
@carrorallison7656 7 ай бұрын
He was defending his family anyone can see it was clearly an accident. Go re watch the confrontation in the caves
@mesa577
@mesa577 6 ай бұрын
​@@carrorallison7656 even if it was an accident, you'd think they would apologize if he meant anything to them even just as a human being.
@blackraven2062
@blackraven2062 Жыл бұрын
Love the Aegon holds his cup up while Aemond was giving the speech lol such a troll
@innerpeacefindings671
@innerpeacefindings671 5 ай бұрын
I love those Brother 😂
@khfan4life365
@khfan4life365 5 ай бұрын
Puberty hit Aemond harder than Robert hit Cersei.
@bobbiefosberg1847
@bobbiefosberg1847 Жыл бұрын
She could have chosen Lord strong the father of her children to be her husband 😂😂😂😂😂 I just can't with team black
@ajae...
@ajae... Жыл бұрын
Lionel Strong intentionally held his sons back from contention to marry Rhaenyra to secure his own relationship with Viserys before her progress to Storms End. He recommended either Aegon or Leanor. Rhaenyra could have chosen him if he was there, but he wasn't.
@malinova96
@malinova96 Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and I must say, this is so refreshing to finally hear someone not worshipping Rhaenyra and her side. She's gaslighting everyone regarding her children, which is a high treason btw because you can't put a bastard as an heir. She can have thousands of bastards if she wishes so but she can't put an illegitimate child as her heir. And then, when she is finally about to get caught, she's just goes to her half-dead father and beg him to protect her, and she supposed to be our strong female lead... But what is great about this show is that both sides are right and wrong, so we can have endless conversations regarding our perspectives. Definitely subscribe and wait for more!
@danasuleiman3738
@danasuleiman3738 Жыл бұрын
and when he died she and daemon blamed alicent who has loved viserys and stayed with him by her side for more that rheanyra and deamon when they were in dragonstone. and she said she wanted a mutilated aemond tortured cuz he said the truth. viserys no beleiving nyras kids are bastards is like tywin not accepting caersie and jaimes kids are bastards and not the kings, so rheanyra is like cersie NOT ALICENT
@gabriellapietrakowski3429
@gabriellapietrakowski3429 Жыл бұрын
The fact that alicent suggests to viserys that rhaenyra will marry but make her choose it and she still didn’t
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually kinda glad even Rhaenys realized Vaemond had a very good point, and the argument she made with Corlys all those years ago as well. Sure, it would've been the female line she was advocating for but, it was better than an illegitimate male line supplanting the main Velaryon line. She honored her Husband in the end, which is admirable, but at least she tried.
@agahpito902
@agahpito902 8 ай бұрын
i still can´t understand why she would side with those who as far as she knows conspired to have her son killed. my own personal theory is that she was brainwashed into becoming a rhaenyra drone.
@varunchauhan8014
@varunchauhan8014 Жыл бұрын
Them boys strong!
@TheeSecondSon
@TheeSecondSon Жыл бұрын
Glorious moment ! One for books ! 🤌
@collinsmith9032
@collinsmith9032 Жыл бұрын
The Queen will have your head for your treasonous words
@jjs1300000
@jjs1300000 Жыл бұрын
Aemond and Alicent along with Helaena and Aegon are my favourite characters. I don’t like Rhaenyra or Daemon, what they did to Helaena is unforgivable.
@TheeSecondSon
@TheeSecondSon Жыл бұрын
1000% agree Jess! One of my biggest beefs with the blacks is the blood and cheese incident. I’m going to be making a video on our beloved Helaena soon. She’s definitely undervalued in the fandom. Always enjoy reading your comments btw. 😁 Thanks for tuning in!
@jjs1300000
@jjs1300000 Жыл бұрын
@@TheeSecondSon Helaena deserved better
@yardknight4953
@yardknight4953 Жыл бұрын
And what Aemond did to Luke?
@jjs1300000
@jjs1300000 Жыл бұрын
@@yardknight4953 It was an accident, if Lucerys had apologised instead of being an arrogant and self-righteous idiot then he wouldn’t have died.
@yardknight4953
@yardknight4953 Жыл бұрын
@@jjs1300000 Aemond still caused his death by giving chase. That's where the kinslaying in the Dance kicked off.
@mateoagudelocanaveral9780
@mateoagudelocanaveral9780 Жыл бұрын
That Aemond impression cracked me up 😂
@TheeSecondSon
@TheeSecondSon Жыл бұрын
Lol glad it made you laugh bro . 😂
@mateoagudelocanaveral9780
@mateoagudelocanaveral9780 Жыл бұрын
@@TheeSecondSon It was good tho
@tomdanks3427
@tomdanks3427 Жыл бұрын
Team green is following the traditional line of succession nothing wrong with that it's the law
@thebluebard7182
@thebluebard7182 Жыл бұрын
Great video and breakdown! I have to admit I definitely see there being some partisanship on the part of the writers. Especially in episode 8 and 9, where we are directly told Aegon is evil and directly shown his actions (I have doubts in relation to Dyana as the serving woman was very obviously involved in both that and in Mysarias pocket.) rather than give us a much more nuanced approach. They have an insistence too on simply ignoring or otherwise altering the atrocities of Rhaenyra and her side. Make no mistake if the end of episode 9 is indicative the blacks (Rhaenys) could commit atrocities and the blowback would be minimal and excused because it was a girl boss moment. Hopefully they fix this but I think the damage is done and 95% of the fandom will defend whatever war crime the blacks commit and by extension defend Rhaenyra because the writers picked a side before putting pen to paper and couldn't spell out well enough just how bad of a person she is.
@TheeSecondSon
@TheeSecondSon Жыл бұрын
Couldn not have said it better myself. Condals undeniable urge to make the Greens as weird & inhumane as possible & Sapochnik’s addiction to forced blockbuster endings and shock value; are both slowly starting to divert my optimism of the longevity of the series storytelling. Anyone who denies Black propaganda is at hand is blinder than Ray Charles . Full video break down coming soon brother !
@thebluebard7182
@thebluebard7182 Жыл бұрын
@@TheeSecondSon Looking forward to it king, will stay tuned and excited for more.
@lalesskahernandez9903
@lalesskahernandez9903 Жыл бұрын
De verdad tu crees q los escritores son theam black poniendo a alicent siendo comprensiva con la sirvienta aunque sabe q lo q iso aegon esta mal y ella se enoja aunque ella sea ipocrita le dieron una razón para querer poner a aegon en trono por q viserys le dijo lo de la profecia y ella creyó otra cosa ya q en el libro ella es más ambiciosa aquí los escritores están poniendo más comprensibles a los verdes 🤔
@lalesskahernandez9903
@lalesskahernandez9903 Жыл бұрын
@@evabh6851 pero es q nadie dice q los black son buenas personas todos en la serie asen cosas malas los únicos medio buenos son helena y los hijos de rhaenyra 🤷‍♀️
@yasmina3999
@yasmina3999 Жыл бұрын
Yes. The first thing we learn about Aegon ( before we even see him) is that he raped someone. It's just weird decision. the most interesting thing is that in the same episode, the most controversial and cruel pre-war decision of Rhaenyra was whitewashed ( killing Vaemond without trial and feeding his corpse to Syrax)
@ely_sky
@ely_sky 8 ай бұрын
I'm not really on either side regarding the actual ruling because I believe both aegon AND rhaenyra would be shitty leaders, but my loyalty lies with alicent. I'm ride or die for her and so I'm begrudgingly team green because of her and helaena (my green queens💚👑) and generally I just find most of team green to be more interesting. plus, in the 6 years that alicent and otto ruled the realms, there seemed to generally be peace among the kingdoms and the people. so again, while I don't think that either would be a good ruler, and I DO believe rhae is the rightful heir because she was named heir, I think that for the sake of the realm and the people, the best case scenario is having otto and alicent as close to the throne as possible. whether or not you like otto, he's good at the game of thrones and almost every suggestion he makes could have prevented the dance, had viserys listened. also, something about vaemond that I don't see many talking about is that with the velaryons being black is that his frustrations become even more valid. we see in game of thrones that racism is alive and thriving 2 centuries after the events of hotd, so we can imagine that means it was DEFINITELY rampent during this era. so, from vaemond's perspective, as a black man who's been able to make this title for himself and his family, it would be the BIGGEST disrespect to see his house wiped out by a bunch of white kids being posed as his relatives by a spoiled princess who believes she can get away with everything (and a big part of that is in viserys actually but that's a different conversation lol). one last thing, regarding the last scene with alicent and viserys; viserys has ALWAYS wanted to be "the good guy" when it comes to rhaenyra. he has allowed alicent to become villianized in the eyes of his daughter so that HE doesn't have to acknowledge the truth. so after nearly 2 decades of that, is it really so hard to believe that alicent just believed he was allowing her to be the bad guy again? that he was putting it on HER so that HE didn't have to be the one to tell rhaenyra he had changed his mind? because personally, I don't think it's that far out. frankly I'm tired of the alicent slander. I defend her like I get paid to lmao.
@gandhimohandaszkaramcsand2634
@gandhimohandaszkaramcsand2634 Жыл бұрын
3:47 I don't agree with you on this point. The show Alicent and Aemond are much more likeable characters than their book counterparts. And I think the show does a really good job to balance the two factions' negative and positive traits. They handle it much better than the book (at least in the pre-dance chapters, I didn't read the dance yet so please don't spoil me anything)
@agahpito902
@agahpito902 Жыл бұрын
i don´t agree with you, they have done nothing but whitewash the blacks, they made rhaenyra a saint eaven tho she called for aemond to be tortured, ordered daemon to kill vaemond and then she feed him to her dragon, in the books she was also cursing the greens during her miscarriage, screaming all the horrible things she would do to them. all three of this moments were very controversial and most important, public. so peaple can´t blame maester bias on these. the show had portrayed rhaenyra and most of her faction as living saints who want only whats best for the kingdom when in the source material martin made real clear that there was not an entirely good option.
@vyper5957
@vyper5957 Жыл бұрын
@Agah Pito first of all, I didn't read the books. So I'm not going to discuss on those since the show is definitely another beast compared to the books. As for me, both sides are messed up. Daemon and Otto are clearly the main instigators of this conflict. And Rhaenyra is depicted as the protagonist so of course Alicent will be her antagonist. A protagonist needs someone to oppose them. In the books, there were no protagonists, just messy, spiced-up retellings of events, and the historians always get it wrong in the ASOIAF universe. The truth is neither Rhaenyra or Aegon deserve to be on the throne. While Rhaenyra blames others for her mistakes, Aegon could have been a better heir like Aemond but he instead chose to be hedonistic (and a rapist and that's beside the point but I'll consider any argument invalid if they victim blame Dyana since she was indeed a victim). All in all, the Blacks are the heroes because they are the protagonists and the Greens are the villains because there needs to be an antagonistic side. But both sides are unworthy.
@agahpito902
@agahpito902 Жыл бұрын
@@vyper5957 yeah, that's what I liked about fire and blood, no good vs bad, but all kinds of messed up. the story had a clear anti-monarchy message and that's what bothers me the most. the show wants you to root for rhaenyra because she is a girl boss and tha queen💅when she is not better than the greens and has little to no interest in those she would rule.
@simosa5842
@simosa5842 Жыл бұрын
I think that Syrax's three eggs are for Aegon (III), Viserys (II) and unborn Visenya, but I'm afraid that in the show they'll make the eggs that Illyrio gave Daenerys come from Syrax.
@A_divisive_scarecrow
@A_divisive_scarecrow 7 ай бұрын
Great video! Keep it up bro!
@Crazy_Talk96
@Crazy_Talk96 Жыл бұрын
Subbed bro, let's get you to 1000! 🤘🏽
@TheeSecondSon
@TheeSecondSon Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the love brodie! 🤜Let’s gooo!
@khfan4life365
@khfan4life365 5 ай бұрын
I laugh every time I see Aegon lift his cup to Aemond’s speech. Brothers having each other’s backs.
@syedshakaibanwar2698
@syedshakaibanwar2698 5 күн бұрын
No way Syrax's eggs hatched into Dany's dragons lol, they are both different kinds of dragons.
@debamlyabanerjee4067
@debamlyabanerjee4067 Жыл бұрын
Love it bro
@yardknight4953
@yardknight4953 Жыл бұрын
Viserys was under the milk of the poppy. We know Alicent has had a determination for 16 yrs to see Aegon, her son, on the throne. Of course she'd love to misinterpret that.
@ajae...
@ajae... Жыл бұрын
Rhaenys wasn't holding back anything from Vaemond, and she didn't want what he wanted. She wanted Baela or Rhaena to inherit Driftmark. She said so in the previous episode. It might be why she requested Baela to stay with her so she could train her. You skipped the part where she agreed to have Baela and Rhaena betrothed to Jace and Luke. The only way to secure house Valeryon going to one of Leana's kids and not Vaemond was to have them marry the current heirs of Driftmark and Westeros. Doing that validated them as Valeryons and jumpstarted Vaemond's freak out.
@khfan4life365
@khfan4life365 2 ай бұрын
I’m sorry. I’m gonna say it. Where was Rhaenyra during those six years? Why didn’t she even attempt to go visit her beloved father who was in agony during the last years of his life? She only visited when her privilege was at risk.
@yardknight4953
@yardknight4953 Жыл бұрын
@5:34 apart from his pain, it works in the Greens' favour to have Viserys out of the pic as much as possible. They went as far to remove Targaryen symbols from the Red Keep. The Hightowers were on some BS with that.
@yhvvcbhjjggjk-id1re
@yhvvcbhjjggjk-id1re Жыл бұрын
Actually they give a prity cool moment to diamon he defenedly should have been the king
@yardknight4953
@yardknight4953 Жыл бұрын
I like that there's a Green take on YT, but the bias for them here is heavy asf.
@cheshirevixen8881
@cheshirevixen8881 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's much farther than Id go, but I won't complain. I'm kinda sick of no nuance team black takes, as a full on team green supporter I'll take this over that 😂😅
@Maria1000G
@Maria1000G Жыл бұрын
#205th follower
@TheeSecondSon
@TheeSecondSon Жыл бұрын
I’m forever grateful my lady. 👑🥹 welcome to the team ! 💚🐉💚
@lalesskahernandez9903
@lalesskahernandez9903 Жыл бұрын
De verdad tu crees q los escritores son theam black poniendo a alicent siendo comprensiva con la sirvienta aunque sabe q lo q iso aegon esta mal y ella se enoja aunque ella sea ipocrita le dieron una razón para querer poner a aegon en trono por q viserys le dijo lo de la profecia y ella creyó otra cosa ya q en el libro ella es más ambiciosa aquí los escritores están poniendo más comprensibles a los verdes 🤔
@yhvvcbhjjggjk-id1re
@yhvvcbhjjggjk-id1re Жыл бұрын
As long as our side takes keeps the throne from your green userpers all our actions are justified
@yhvvcbhjjggjk-id1re
@yhvvcbhjjggjk-id1re Жыл бұрын
He is better than agon the second
@nhoodjazz
@nhoodjazz 6 ай бұрын
You Hightower apologists…. Craven
@sl7883
@sl7883 Жыл бұрын
laenor accepted the children as his, bastards or not he claimed them so therefore i see no reason why his titles and properties shouldn't go to the children he claimed. he understood what would be required of him and he clearly never loved the children any less. even corlys is kind of in the same sentiment, his son says they're his so they're his. there shouldn't be any crying over it. team green is a bit uptight and considering alicent barely likes her children at all i can hardly say i'd want to be one of them
@cheshirevixen8881
@cheshirevixen8881 Жыл бұрын
I see what you mean but there's a few issues. A bastard must first be recognised as a bastard to be officially legitimised, this has not happened. So technically they have no legal right to inherit. There's also the fact that they aren't Laenors bastards, they're Rhaenyras. When a father's bastard is legitimised they may gain some inheritance through their father. Similarly the strong boys would only gain inheritance through their biological parent, their mother, not Laenor. So Luke wouldn't inherit Driftmark
@yardknight4953
@yardknight4953 Жыл бұрын
The problem is similar to why the War of The Five Kings in GoT happened. Since they are bastards, next in line would rightly be Vaemond. Yes, he was ambitious for it, but it was his right. Just like it was Stannis' right for the throne. I am Team Black, make no mistake, but that is only by virtue Viserys naming Rhae his heir, none of this yessss slay queen crap. We can keep it real though, Rhae's true heir is actually Aegon III.
@yardknight4953
@yardknight4953 Жыл бұрын
@@cheshirevixen8881 in this case their father. The boys would only be entitled to Harrenhaal since they're Strong's bastards.
@yusufraage8554
@yusufraage8554 Жыл бұрын
@@yardknight4953 Cersei was Lying to the king about the kids being Baratheons and she is not of royal blood so Cersei's kids are bastards to whomever matter the real father doesnt claim them the king doestn claim them nobody but Cersei claims the kids as true born with Rheanyra its the opposed only Alicent cares about Rheanyra's kids being bastards everybody else with eyes claim Rheanyra's kids.
@yhvvcbhjjggjk-id1re
@yhvvcbhjjggjk-id1re Жыл бұрын
The greens foght to put their fake Targaryens on the throne no about the legitimate rights of male sucsetion. I am also for the way but i am against Hightower userpers
@antmontgomery4060
@antmontgomery4060 11 ай бұрын
And the strong boys aren't fake?😂
@yhvvcbhjjggjk-id1re
@yhvvcbhjjggjk-id1re 11 ай бұрын
@@antmontgomery4060 they are but who cares they did not take the throne. The throne was taken by the rightfull decentents of Daemon Targaryen . It is obvious that Daemon should have been the king.
@higharchbishopofteatasting6217
@higharchbishopofteatasting6217 7 ай бұрын
​@@yhvvcbhjjggjk-id1reDaemon, you mean Maegor 2.0?
@jordangene1923
@jordangene1923 3 ай бұрын
​@@yhvvcbhjjggjk-id1re Daemon should've been king? Really?
@yhvvcbhjjggjk-id1re
@yhvvcbhjjggjk-id1re 3 ай бұрын
@@jordangene1923 yes
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