EU4 - What if Europa Universalis 4 Had MODERN BORDERS?

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In this video titled EU4 - What if Europa Universalis 4 Had MODERN BORDERS? we take a look at what would happen if EU4 had modern borders / what if EU4 started in 2021. In this video I use the Extended Timeline mod to start a campaign of EU4 in 2021. As you can probably guess this scenario resulted in some pretty funny shenanigans. Obviously you would expect that nations with the highest development would dominate, but did it really turn out that way? This whole run was controlled by the AI only without my interference and it yielded some pretty interesting results to be honest. So, after watching this video you will know what would happen if Iberian Regions were united in 1444. What is the next "What if" scenario that I should do? Leave a comment below! The save file is available for all Tier 1 and above KZfaq members in the save-games Discord channel.
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@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын

What is the next "What if" scenario that you would like for me to explore? Leave a comment here and join The Discord to chat with me and get the save-game if you're a KZfaq Member: discord.gg/ksDjjUhKHd Check out more "What if" videos here: kzfaq.info/sun/PLsO8A6cTBgguUFeefokWu22yzjvM8VtDD

@cj_hastings 2 жыл бұрын

what if portugal never lost its empire

@ZetaArcticana4006 2 жыл бұрын

What if Asia instead of Europe colonized the Americans. Maybe force the East Asians to take exploration and force the Europeans not to, not sure how you do that but it would be cool.

@CaptainGen 2 жыл бұрын

What if natives were in Europe and Europeans were in the new world. That would be such a mess lol

@ZetaArcticana4006 2 жыл бұрын

@@CaptainGen that would be funny

@pcu9284 2 жыл бұрын

What if everyone had the same dynasty

@yousaywhatnow2195 2 жыл бұрын

“The Belgian world conquest has begun” The DRC: *sweats nervously*

@jarjab2games 2 жыл бұрын

Wait? Its all Belgium? Always has been...

@toddhoward1892 11 ай бұрын

We didn't start the fire...

@ArakkoaChronicles 2 жыл бұрын

This has got to be one of the funniest videos on this channel yet. I completely lost it in a few spots. "Oman is a square." "Ivory Coast has no coast." "9th American change government form of Brazil"

@kabobawsome 2 жыл бұрын

It was like clockwork. Must have surely been ceremonial at some point. 50 years have passed? Declare on Brazil.

@speedy01247 2 жыл бұрын

President: as we all know my predecessor failed their foolish terribly planned war on Brazil, so as for my first act as president, I say WAR, as a veteran from the third Brazilian war I know the land and can effectively lead troops into victory -mr president president, on the eve of the 5th Brazilian war.

@Stevonicus 2 жыл бұрын

17:36 Turkey ruled by Padishah Ieyoshi Yamato. The Japanese stealth conquest of the world in action.

@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын

Lol truee

@Stevonicus 2 жыл бұрын

The final ruler of Taiwan/Xia is also a Yamato.

@mrbisshie 2 жыл бұрын

Japan going for that PU on a country on the other side of Asia. Well, in northern Africa at the end, lol.

@dangerdean9066 2 жыл бұрын

I think Turkey had a royal marriage with Japan

@forreality90 2 жыл бұрын

Turkish language is relative with Japan language. On the same language tree (Transeurasian)... We are (I'm Turkish) relative with Japans and all Turkic cultures like Kyrgyz, Kazakh, Turkmen, Azerbaijanian, Tatar, Uzbek, all Altais, even Etruks (Roman Empire's ancestors), Hungarians, Bulgarians, Yakuts, Tuvas etc... But NOT relatives with Mongols and/or Arabs as mentioned in some games. On the other hand, we have the same language tree with Mongols too, but, again, we are not relatives with them. Genghis Khan's mother was Turkish, so people think that we are relatives but not. I don't care about races but just mentioning to make it clear.

@roedagardet 2 жыл бұрын

It's crazy to think that this game just predicted the next 300 years

@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@ZetaArcticana4006 2 жыл бұрын

Brazil will be a princedom!!!

@JanHouben 2 жыл бұрын

Warning to the UK: when you leave the EU, you WILL be conquered by Belgium! 😅

@FionaDanger. 2 жыл бұрын

@@ZetaArcticana4006 You keep saying that, America. It's never going to happen.

@avr4h 2 жыл бұрын

All of you have got to be kidding! You're all talking about what will happen in 50 years as if! Oh the US will ban handguns by 2035? Buddy, the fog is gonna consume us by 2027. The fog is coming. The fog is coming. The fog is coming.

@petemagnuson7357 2 жыл бұрын

When you're trying to figure out if a nation exists, look at a province they have a core on. Their flag will be gray if they're dead, or colored if they're alive (in which case you click on the core and open their diplo screen)

@dsjsi 2 жыл бұрын

You can also just search for them in the ledger

@vulturearmy3780 2 жыл бұрын

Also if you hover over the nation’s flag (even if it doesn’t exist anymore) the provinces which they have cores on will be highlighted

@trygveplaustrum4634 2 жыл бұрын

"You're going to Brazil." *"No, Brazil is going to YOU!"*

@the_yobo 2 жыл бұрын

But then, suddenly, a mysterious figure appears, is... PERU EATING BRAZIL

@gutowsky 2 жыл бұрын

I mean fight the US while fighting SA, and see how it goes for you buddy

@realhawaii5o 2 жыл бұрын

That must suck for Portugal. The borders have changed so much. Look at how much smaller they are now.

@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah true

@paulom8804 2 жыл бұрын

We are just as small as then, the thing is now we have nowhere to go.

@nguyenhan2145 2 жыл бұрын

Brazil in 2021: we discover a large reserve of oil hidden in Amazon forest US: it's democracy time

@pasatorman8294 3 ай бұрын

And then thry fight and lose 9 consecutive wars in the span of 400 years

@Prany2 2 жыл бұрын

But Red Hawk, did USA finally change Brazilian government? As for next scenario - maybe reduce all countries to their capital. Give everyone a colonist and maybe colony maintenace discount modifier for couple decades. No need to remove vassals - liberty desire is a thing, so let's observe how France and Timmies are doing with their subjects. For science.

@jeneconepalortografe4984 2 жыл бұрын

What he can do is giving them Siberian frontiers so it’ll be easier and faster for them to expand. Zlewikk made a multiplayer with this and that’s dope. You should check it out

@Prany2 2 жыл бұрын

@@jeneconepalortografe4984 But what about countries far away from Siberia?/jk

@notlucas6859 2 жыл бұрын

@@Prany2 duh give them european frontier idea smh

@geoDB. 2 жыл бұрын

There was a civ mod but it doesn't work anymore

@jeneconepalortografe4984 2 жыл бұрын

@@geoDB. it still works but in 1.27

@TheLibermania 2 жыл бұрын

10:00 Not just Poland and the Commonwealth. Lithuania exists as well.

@alexanderfrederickson4637 2 жыл бұрын

The USA interfering in Latin American Politics? I guess some things never change.

@CaptainGen 2 жыл бұрын

Every time I play modern time in eu4 it’s always sooo laggy since everyone has crazy amounts of troops, plus the AE is crazy

@mcr-1266 2 жыл бұрын

Computer thing? I play MT a lot and rarely get lag. Not until like the year 2700 or so.

@jeneconepalortografe4984 2 жыл бұрын

@@mcr-1266 even with a good pc, if you are blobbing too much or if there is too much change (big war and 10millions deaths in one battle) the game will crash. I learned it the hard way while I was doing a challenge of conquering China with Taiwan. At the end of a war with China, in the 22th century, I took half of their country and the game crashed.

@leonardocontin937 2 жыл бұрын

@@jeneconepalortografe4984 I agree, I have a decent pc and I lag in 2100 when there are too many troops moving on the map (ex Many Nations in Wars)

@gimmethegepgun 2 жыл бұрын

Crazy AE? Meanwhile, in real life: Iraq enters the tiny nation of Kuwait. Half the world joins coalition and destroys them.

@65tallmax 2 жыл бұрын

For me i can run modern time but on extended timeline i crash often.

@WhittyWhitts 11 ай бұрын

Quebec when it forms Canada after breaking away from them: “We’ve become the very thing we swore to destroy”

@TheLibermania 2 жыл бұрын

The European Union has it's parliament in Bruxelles. Could it be that's why Belgium is the "Overlord" of the EU? That would be pretty OP and a mistake.

@ligmabouls 2 жыл бұрын

charles michel is also from belgium and was the eu president but france and germany deff have more say than belgium

@Juanthar Жыл бұрын

Not a mistake just superior B)

@divingdown6173 2 жыл бұрын

Whenever I see red hawk upload, I click, he got me into eu4 best decision ever

@sigma_fil1529 2 жыл бұрын

Strengthen noble privileges

@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words, welcome to the best EU4 community

@Stormtrooper_LP 2 жыл бұрын

Same here. Was playing eu2 for over 10 years and skipped eu3 entireley. And then I started watching Hawk and bought eu4 and by now i already put a few hundred hours into the game. Already got so many achievements and so much fun times. Thanks to the Hawk. Big love Mate. Thx for all the entertainment.

@diobrando5340 2 жыл бұрын

Hmm

@rommelcandiani6358 2 жыл бұрын

Stolkhome syndrome

@str4mb3tt02 2 жыл бұрын

"We are all map staring nerds'' the One sentence that can describe all paradox games' players Ps great video i really enjoyed it

@Brok3nC4rrot 2 жыл бұрын

Quebec popping out is both the most cursed and also realistic thing I've ever seen

@greenacadian4197 2 жыл бұрын

“US was at war with Brazil. US had always been at war with Brazil.”

@julius879 2 жыл бұрын

6:41 "Pretty quiet in Europe" while Poland is screaming in agony due to a Libyan invasion

@trygveplaustrum4634 2 жыл бұрын

*LOL Alaska is "American Canada."* I love it!

@myrddinemrys1332 2 жыл бұрын

The EU uses the HRE mechanics so you could have seen if Belgium had passed reforms in the HRE screen.

@kabobawsome 2 жыл бұрын

Based on the fact that they were getting the dev added, they must have somehow passed a bunch of reforms super fast and got to the vassal swarm point, but never got further.

@mrbisshie 2 жыл бұрын

@@kabobawsome Ai being smart and purposely not passing all the reforms, so they can continue to vassal swarm!

@kabobawsome 2 жыл бұрын

@@mrbisshie More likely, whatever crazy method they were using to pass reforms super fast got prevented BY the vassal swarm.

@matheusGMN 2 жыл бұрын

USA was typical in this game: always in conflict with someone in south america, never succeeds x) But poor poor brazil, my home country, at least 9 times bullied by the US :(

@razier5299 2 жыл бұрын

To be fair it would of made more sense saying Middle East or Asia since US actually took out a lot of South American governments.

@wersab5960 2 жыл бұрын

Well Brazil was invading like all of South America

@speedy01247 2 жыл бұрын

@@wersab5960 who says an abuser can't also be a victim. (Doesn't make either side right, but still)

@xsardes336 2 жыл бұрын

Iove how Poland was at war with...itself...for abaut 100 years. Thats very realistic

@coconutcore 2 жыл бұрын

Yes!!! We avons das finallement gedaan! Vive la Belgique! Lang leve België! At last our plans have reached fruition! We have become THE GREATEST NATION IN THE WORLD! …in a video game. I mean…look guys. I don’t know how many of you live in the US, but this is an achievement to us. …also it’s nice to see “Belgium” stamped onto those neighbours who’ve kept invading us throughout history. I’m looking at you, France, Germany and even our Dutch Benelux brothers. *does the double fingery “watching you” sign* This map is a statement. Remember it. Concordia res parvae crescunt!

@krankarvolund7771 2 жыл бұрын

I guess we french did too much jokes on belges, they wanted revenge :p

@JohnSmith-kb4re 2 жыл бұрын

Literally 4 seconds in and it's already unimaginably based.

@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын

And cursed

@wilma_wessels 2 жыл бұрын

"The netherlands they're gone, it's all belgium now" truly the darkest timeline

@jordinagel1184 2 жыл бұрын

No more stroopwaffels, only pommes frites

@aapjeopeenwieler3808 2 жыл бұрын

@@jordinagel1184 nahh belgium will continue making stroopwafels but no more Heineken.

@samvanderstaak7296 2 жыл бұрын

@@aapjeopeenwieler3808 And nothing of value was lost lmao

@jacqueswan2867 2 жыл бұрын

I suspect Belgium holds Wallonie as the primary culture so they can simply unify the whole French culture with no internal consequences and start from there.

@wiktorm.3613 2 жыл бұрын

Sir, you are brilliant, you have surely put a lot of effort in this video, especially preperation. Thank you :)

@Endiepup 2 жыл бұрын

It Was Hilarious Every Time He Said China Expanded Into Manchuria And It Looked The Exact Same

@Sextus70 2 жыл бұрын

25:35 "Las Malvinas" (Falklands) are truly Argentine at last, but at the cost of the actual Argentina.

@vaiyt 11 ай бұрын

"Are the malvinas argentine" "Yes" "What did it cost" "Everything"

@WhiteLama 2 жыл бұрын

As a Swede I’m okay with Norway taking us over. At least they aren’t Denmark. EDIT: Never mind, we’re Estonian now and also we now own more of Norway than Norway. EDIT 2: Oh, RIP Norway. EDIT 3: DENMARK IS GONE 🦀🦀🦀

@Skull.man00 7 ай бұрын

Actually, denmark government exiled to Greenland 😅

@jennyatelier_augenstern1180 2 жыл бұрын

Oof watching now how Russia suddenly has a big coalition against them just hits different

@2020Twenty 2 жыл бұрын

20:55 Greece: "We're taking the Byzantine Empire back!"

@radioactiveriver6718 2 жыл бұрын

25:34 What did it cost? Argentina: Everything

@santiagob.1071 2 жыл бұрын

Very good scenario! I really wanted Belgium to centralize the EU but they never did well I guess it would actually make them weaker since they lose the vassal swarm.

@SnapplyPie 2 жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this one! Good job keeping up quality content 👍

@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@carl6909 2 жыл бұрын

hey arent you that rathnir guy?

@SnapplyPie 2 жыл бұрын

@@carl6909 Indeed I am, I also enjoy Grand Strategy Paradox games :)

@arnemichiels8611 2 жыл бұрын

"yemen is big, oman is a square" made me chuckle

@lol_histicall4289 2 жыл бұрын

Europe would’ve looked interesting if Belgium didn’t have them all as a subject

@Grothgerek 2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't even make sense, because Belgium is only the "capital" and compared to France or Germany doesn't have that much influence in the EU. The EU definitely wasn't reworked very well.

@jeffthedeaf9159 2 жыл бұрын

I love how Greenland is called Danish Canada 😂

@SordMasta 2 жыл бұрын

"Australia just chillin, except they're a military dictatorship... Seems about right now in the 2020's." - US: So what resources do you have over there ...mate? - Australia: Pretty much coal. - US: OK you're safe, chill. - China: Did someone say coal? I better wrap up this India war. Get the shovels comrades.

@micahbell8533 2 жыл бұрын

This was a very interesting video to see how the stats of today's world would play out, but I've gotta say that your commentary took it to the next level. Great video!

@d0nutwaffle 2 жыл бұрын

Mod has a pretty realistic depiction of Monroe doctrine it seems, lol.

@Sacredearthproject 2 жыл бұрын

21:14 I cant explain it but those are the most satisfying Greek borders maybe country borders I've ever seen. Just a perfect sphere of influence.

@Pascal_Mueller 2 жыл бұрын

yes

@alexandrosmath7457 2 жыл бұрын

Constantinople in Greek hands! Beautiful lol. I didn't expect it lol.

@soumajitsen1395 2 жыл бұрын

This was a really good one! Loved it! :p

@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@ser6Ijvolk 2 жыл бұрын

Belgium: Mad With Power 2: Electric Boogaloo. USA: a beacon of monarchy in the world.

@blessingdulani9908 2 жыл бұрын

Canada:exists Brazil:exists USA: and I took that personally...................murica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@just_radical 2 жыл бұрын

Brazilian Government: Exists The CIA: I took that personally.

@purpledevilr7463 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t know why but this whole thing just feels surprising realistic, accurate and plausible.

@akkiaddizone6889 2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, Belgian world conquest

@aluminiumknight4038 2 жыл бұрын

yeah youre insane

@palty8126 2 жыл бұрын

Another amazing video from my favorite eu4 channel

@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

@SomeBadStuff999 2 жыл бұрын

Poland, Lithuania and Commonwealth at the same time? Damn that curse. Nice video as always.

@ravivik3378 2 жыл бұрын

Loved the reverse flash refrences :)

@TheSwedishHistorian 2 жыл бұрын

This video makes me hopeful for the next 300 years

@seanm241 2 жыл бұрын

you should start making the gp's go to war with each other at the end if they never come into conflict. would make these a bit more interesting.

@srujanakondeti2596 2 жыл бұрын

50k!!!!!! Your growth rate is very high compared to other paradox channels

@jkg8108 2 жыл бұрын

I recommend using the Xorme AI mod if observing. You'll love it, can't play singleplayer without it.

@Rutious4 2 жыл бұрын

Good to see Ukraine won 2022

@splatooey9015 2 жыл бұрын

Not the British not invading Ireland while Belgium in conquering Moscow

@doughnoutsyt8345 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly great vid :)

@calleagelii3244 2 жыл бұрын

Kinda cringe that Great Britain isn't allied with Portugal at the start ngl

@TheRedHawk 2 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@KitTheAnkafolk 2 жыл бұрын

Or that Canada wasn’t allied to the US

@paulinchannel3104 2 жыл бұрын

7:13 well... prediction!

@kabobawsome 2 жыл бұрын

That last recap was like watching a doctor describe a bunch of minor cuts (everywhere but Europe) on a body with a bloody stump where the head was supposed to be (B E L G I U M)

@jozeph2932 2 жыл бұрын

The Philippines really became a Chinese province except by a different China.

@michaelwhite7531 2 жыл бұрын

Coming from Quebec, can confirm that this, in fact, would/could still happen. Sovereign quebec is a very popular subject (Thanks Rene Lesvesque)

@Hhammurabi 2 жыл бұрын

yeah but I think it's too late now unfortunately

@GrandGigaChad 2 жыл бұрын

Now we need red hawk to do a a to z challenge in this scenario

@SamuriLemonX18 2 жыл бұрын

"This is Malta. Hello Malta" Idk why but this nearly made me spit out my drink

@Diane_8 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know why but you sound insane in this video

@nathanealm.5062 2 жыл бұрын

Like the concept, could you upload the time lapse though.

@connortheandroidsentbycybe7740 2 жыл бұрын

Yemen conquering Saudi Arabia? Blessed time line

@haxolotl7 2 жыл бұрын

the coalitions happen from the EU but i dont remember what triggers them exactly but doign some things gives you tons of AE with the entire european union

@matthewwade4196 2 жыл бұрын

Which DLCs are you using? I've just been running stock and when I check on the various DLCs they seem to have usually less than great reviews.

@Adusakful 2 жыл бұрын

8:22 Why did that "Oman is a square" sentence make me wheeze so hard? (also 15:01)

@tiger2498 2 жыл бұрын

Ireland and Great Britain chilling on their islands the entire game

@alfiand9269 2 жыл бұрын

12:45 ofc belgium angry at french, best fries made in belgium yet people called it french fries. They malding

@markpiper6382 Жыл бұрын

1:57 I thought Red Hawk was going to say “The time it takes to pass a law in the U.S Congress,” not going to lie.

@gimmethegepgun 2 жыл бұрын

I was sad there was no "Greece went back to Constantinople" after they did. Also, Spain and Turkey migrated into North Africa lol. Spain was just an OPM and Turkey became Egypt.

@Smainchoker 2 жыл бұрын

9:36 ah yes. German france. Obviously the best france :P

@TheDion56 2 жыл бұрын

I love that Greenland is called "Danish Canada".

@LlamasAtMidnight 2 жыл бұрын

I mean, is it wrong?

@TheDion56 2 жыл бұрын

@@LlamasAtMidnight no, it just amuses me.

@Vanryn273 2 жыл бұрын

6:12 Communist Revolutionaries led by a de' Medici, nice

@FaF-posting 2 жыл бұрын

I think Belgium expanded so much becuse it was the leader of the EU (the HRE in this mod)

@FaF-posting 2 жыл бұрын

Oh, he already said it

@Pigraider268 2 жыл бұрын

Have you noticed that Turkey is monarchy ruled by Yamato dynasty i.e. the imperial dynasty of Japan? :P

@AntonSlavik 2 жыл бұрын

"Poland and the Common Wealth exist at the same time? Listen, this is even getting too cursed for me" lol can relate

@mortimersmithsr2522 2 жыл бұрын

FINALLY a new episode!

@LiezAllLiez 2 жыл бұрын

I used to play this mod a lot, back in 1.19 or something, but it has issues. The major one, in my opinion, is that you get WAY too much monarch power. This, eventually, leads to the AI culture converting every province, after separatism has died down. If you start from an early date, by year 2k, there will be a few nations left with a few cultures left (at least, on the AIs side of things), due to the problem ive mentioned. Lemme tell ya, not being able to fund separatists to break up a monstrosity of a state spanning across Europe (or a few of them, allied together) is a real problem. This mod doesnt help things. I remember one game, where ive started off as a mesoamerican minor. Colonized what i could, developed some institutions to catch up with the "west", and went to Europe. How (un)surprised i was, when all ive found was France, Saxony, some ancient german tribe that survived since roman times and Denmark sharing the continent between them. All of their provinces were culture converted, so that nothing else could spawn, even if they were brought over the edge in terms of WE and stability. Breaking them up took me hundreds of years... and in all honesty, i didnt enjoy fighting war after war, some declared by me, others declared by them (punitive wars), and all bringing very little in terms of impact. Maybe if i were in Europe at game start, i could alter some things, but again - too much time=too much MP. The AI would have to be altered to make this mod work, and i dont think people actually attempt that.

@leonardocontin937 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think you are supposed to play 2000 years of game if you chose 4ad as starting date I think every starting date is balanced as a mini scenario

@element5584 2 жыл бұрын

I would recommend using the Nations Can Collapse Mod which usually results in large, multiethnic empires breaking up into smaller states. Of course, it also affects the player so it also makes the game more challenging.

@ReddoFreddo 2 жыл бұрын

"The AI culture converting every province" This is actually very realistic in modern times.

@LiezAllLiez 2 жыл бұрын

@@ReddoFreddo Like the Volhynia massacre...?

@Bruceboot 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to see the UK did literally nothing other than taking one Spanish province for 400 years.

@butterterter 2 жыл бұрын

"Oman is a square" -Red Hawk 8:22

@mahdiali872 Жыл бұрын

this was crazy i wonder how many people got hte falklands joke

@Smurez 2 жыл бұрын

Greece borders looking pretty sexy at the end

@fem530 2 жыл бұрын

He finally did it!

@benjaminhinz2552 2 жыл бұрын

Egypt takes out Israel Literally any history nerd: impossible

@richardrichardson5667 2 жыл бұрын

Except they owned Palestine for more time than any other nation in history

@thatguyofdark 2 жыл бұрын

i have to say i was not prepared for square oman

@kyleschneider6871 2 жыл бұрын

*sees little purple color on the island to the SE of China* -1,000,000,000 social credit score! If the Republic of China doesn't have cores on the People's Republic of China except for the Tibet region, I'll be sad. "I guess Estonia is finally part of Scandinavia." It's all that they ever wanted.