That Joel guy one was fucked. House of horrors.

Yeah, I compared the two cases as well. One of the only differences is instead of boiling heads, he threw them in the fire place and caused the fire to get too hot and shattered the glass.

@@HannahMattox Another similarity I noticed between the two cases. Both of these sets of parents provided everything for their children, gave them a lot of freedom, etc. Most of many parents ask questions about school, classes they are taking, about people at your work etc. There's no way my kids could get away with lying to me about not attending college when I believe they're or not having this job they said they have. I ask too many questions and we talk a lot. I think I would notice pretty quickly. Plus if I'm paying for your education you can damn sure I'm asking questions on your progress, making sure you're giving it your all, etc. In both cases it seems like the boys were given whatever they wanted. And clearly given too much open trust. Don't get me wrong. I completely trust my kids. But I'm very invested in my kids and their lives. Sorry can't explain very well exactly what I mean.

@@shannonfergusson978 oh no, you made perfect sense, honey! Spoiled brats who got caught not holding up to the minimum expected of them...chores, job, school. Those things are critical when you're a grown man living with your parents who already did their job of raising your ass! I've sat my kids down and told them all of what you said, plus that if they ever think they'll get away with murdering me for something like this (they occasionally watch the news), I'm pretty hard to kill and they better come with something bigger than a gun. You can't take the life of your parents when they're what keeps you alive. Selfish buttholes is what those boys are and they're gonna rot in prison. Many inmates won't like what they did to their parents, but especially their Mama's, and you can bet they'll need special protections in prison.

@@HannahMattox lol. Absolutely. My kids were convinced for most of their lives that I actually had eyes in the back of my head and super sonic hearing.. Those boys are a perfect example of why kids need to have chores, expectations set out by their parents, taught the value of money. It's great if you have lots of money or try to always give your kids what they want/need. But they have to know that things and programs cost money. Money comes from parents working hard and so you need to appreciate what you get, put your all into the program or sport you asked to join, and that a family works as a unit to keep the house and life running smoothly. Everyone has a part to play.

Yes. I always find that very odd, too.

Thy think they are smarter than rest of us because they have gotten away with it for so long.

I am appalled how sloppy he was and thought there would be no evidence to be found!! Idiotic AND evil!!!!

But did he do it alone? He doesnt seem like he is capable to plan this all alone.

@@nicoleloves9483 I think he did it alone that’s why he was so stupid as to go to the farm and to his “watering hole” to dump body parts too much stupidity in this case on his part.

@@nicoleloves9483 I agree .He had 4 days at least ,and in your 20's staying up 18 to 20 hours a day is no problem with the right motivation..but because he thinks he's the smartest person in the room ,besides he planned he may have taken tarps put them on the basement floor ,lured his father down and shot him in the back .Mom comes home same senario except I think he probably shot her in the head a couple time's . because he realized it takes too many shots to body to kill efficiently. Then he rolled them up in tarps and then dismembered them and spent the night trying to burn body parts starting with their heads ..he has ice in his veins and nobody is calling him out on his 4 year life of lies ,more and more entitled lazy kids think you brought me here its your life's duty to keep me

@@nicoleloves9483 He totally did it alone. He had his parents' big house all to himself to 'deal with' their bodies (he repeatedly told his girlfriend not to come over/limited her time there, so he could finish what he euphemistically called 'his chores'). But like so many killers, he was over confident. Detectives and the forensic crime labs they use can pick up the tiniest speck of blood proving he location of the murder scene and the killer's connection to it. Who else could have killed and dismembered them in their own home but the son who lived with them? It's frankly ludicrous this 24 year old man is denying it. But he has nothing to lose, and no doubt enjoys all the attention he's getting at his double murder trial. He's secretly proud of what he did to his parents. There's no remorse or emotion from him when photos are shown in court of his parents' body parts. He shot them in the back then chopped them up - because they were about to uncover his many lies about himself and his life. He's not a man, but a man-child. He didn't want to grow up, leave home, earn his own money or be a man, as his elder brother had. He's an evil, entitled, cowardly freak, and the sooner he's locked up with bigger psychopaths, the better! Chandler Halderson killed the two people in the world who loved him deeply, and would have supported him no matter what. Who gives a damn about him now they're gone, and he killed them both so cruelly? He has a very lonely life ahead of him.

there's no right or wrong standard when it comes to being a parent... you're either too loving (spoil and stifle) or you're too hard (leading to resentment).

His mediocrity was his motive. He was so pathetic, he knew he was going to be exposed. Can you imagine being that pathetic? Shocking.

@@pommiebears Can you imagine being so detached that you could dismember any human being, much less your parents? This guy is a weirdo psychopath & not very bright.

If he put as much effort into going to school and getting a job as he did into his murdering acts... none of it would have happened

@@jodievukmir3187 I thought the same thing!! Really, all that effort he could have a great job.

Damn I think I would prefer to tell the truth to my parents instead of killing and dismembering them. Hell that's a lot of work physically and emotionally. Yeah he isn't wired right.

His dad was an accountant known for helping his friends kids with Thier college financing. How would he not know his own son hadn't really secured loans for school???

@@glennjones6574 good question. Chandler is the consummate liar, so who knows. Plus… looks like Chandler expended more time and energy killing and dismembering his parents than he did for anything else in his pathetic life.

Smoky0 I believe that appointment was fake-Chandler set that appointment up. Disgusting the lies he created. I live here in WI-this happened about 1 1/2hrs south of me….I am shocked the position the defense made-not even trying to use mental defect. We don’t have the death penalty here, but there is definitely a mental health issue here.

He was enrolled in school but second semester didn't go

@@jonipflager1235 mental health problem or not they both should be judged and sentenced the same way. Never understood how a mental problem could be used almost as an excuse for murder.

I thought that same thing

My Thoughts exactly I came to the comments for who else got that message loud a clear. I also feel like when He and Cat showered together that couldve been her last place of living I know he thought about it He had just washed off his parents blood from dismemberment I know he was still in a evil mindset when he told her to quote sleep in the basement Wow She was spared Thank God

That bothered me too!! I almost stopped listening.

I don’t know whether people are born evil or not. Certainly some people seem to have a void in their soul which is scary.

Lazy at everything. There will be no video games in jail or much of anything for that matter.

@@zeballos5757 agree! he is the definition of someone who didn't want to grow up and was living off Mommy and Daddy!!!

@@ericahensley0 he and his brother both said the mom was a Helicopter Mom, and Chaz did say in his interrogation that there was no tv while eating and a few other things about the dad. Nothing that had any info of course. So probably our house, our rules, and the more spoiled Chaz was, the more he had no respect for the parents and they were there to suit a purpose. Until the fuel was about to run out for Chaz, and his tangled web of lies was about to come crumbling down. I think I’d rather be embarrassed by my lies crumbling down than watching them in front of others in a court room. Yikes. What a dope.

@@zeballos5757 this is deep. Agree with all of this!

@@zeballos5757 yes love your last words there..I'd rather face my lies than this whole thing

psychopath

I mean that’s a bit dramatic… if you’re a fan of true crime you surely must have heard of dozens of cases that were far worse …

How do young men join the US military and go kill strangers for no reason?

The father had made an appointment to meet with the college, he told son he was to go with him, the text message relates to that.

​@@mariesmith4309 Yes ;)

@@mariesmith4309 Correct - Chandler shot his dad in the back just as they were about to leave the house to attend that meeting at his college, where his lies would have been fully exposed. Then he waited home for his mom to return from work and no doubt lured her down to the basement too, to muffle the gunshot sound as he killed her. These murders of parents by lazy, entitled twenty-something sons still leeching off them follow a similar pattern. The crime is invariably committed after the father has belatedly put his foot down, and taken action to end their free ride. Joel Guy Jr and Grant Amato were very similar murders by man-child sons. I doubt this is the last such crime we've seen. Parents need to take note - over-indulge your kid and keep them dependant on you, and you are doing them - and yourself - no favours at all. It's natural for parents to love their kids unconditionally. But as they become adults, and face life in the adult world, they need to detach from them for their own good. Because in the adult world, no one owes them a free ride and they will have to stand on their own two feet and make their own way in life to survive. Parents should give them the tools to do that - a secure home and a good education - but then they must let go and expect them to fly the nest and take responsibility for themselves. Why was Chandler still living with parents age 23? That's a big red flag, right there.

@@glamdolly30 very well put.

@@glamdolly30 exactly!! So sad that these little boys think killing their family is the best solution when they refuse to grow up!!! I can understand a child living at home at age 23 ….IF they are finishing college, have a job, have a plan concerning their future….but no way would I allow my child to freeload indefinitely!!! I can’t understand how Chandler was able to continue lying for so long…..years of lying about college, having a job, having a NEW job with SpaceX…..how was he able to have any spending money???? I don’t think he even had his own vehicle!!!! He was happy having his girlfriend and his parents pay for everything!!! How did he pay for his clothes…..his mother probably still bought his underwear!!! It’s ludicrous!!!

The girlfriend really?

He’s a monster!!!!!! The worst of the worst

I argued with someone who commented on another video saying it was a waste of a trial and all they have proven is “he wasn’t always honest” after several comments about all the evidence against him the guy wanted to say it was more likely the older brother so he could get the money 🙄 this case seems very open and shut. The brother and girlfriend Cat seem to be victims in this.

@@LovelyRhodes There are many trolls in the chats. Most haven't even listened to this trial. They're only there to show their ignorance & immaturity. Don't feed them...its what they want.🙂

@@southernsass2937 Amen, of course Chandler Halderson murdered both his parents, the evidence against him is so overwhelming his defense lawyer has hardly said two words on his behalf, from day one! Her opening statement to jurors was the most feeble thing I've ever heard in defence of a suspected killer. All she could say was "Remember he's innocent until proven guilty, you can't assume anything, and we may never know who killed Bart and Krista Halderson". Pathetic! She actually helped the prosecution!

the defense has to do what the client wants. he is an arrogant young man, feels he has been wronged. Find the photo of this schlub in a neck brace standing next to his father and his brother in mid June. i think it was taken after his brother got out of the hospital (initial hospitalization for type 1 diabetes). He looks so pathetic. Has to get the attention. Think you can probably find it if you watch the prosecutors opening statement.

@@dianayount2122 I honestly don't think the defense believes their client to the point that they're doing the least they have to do just to get it over with. Defense doesn't always worry about "winning a case", some of them just aren't worth it.

I thought I read that a plea deal wasn’t offered.

He shot his s parents, cut off their heads and threw them into the fireplace to burn. No prosecutor in the country would accept a plea for this kid, especially with this much evidence.

If he took a plea he couldn't file any apeals

With Cat alongside this creep

@@stepheneurosailor1623 how could cat not know.

ugh!!

UGH! That really brings home the horror of the dismemberment. He must have shot mum and dad dead in the basement, to muffle the sound of the gunshot to neighbours, then put each body on a tarp to drag them upstairs to the shower room, where he cut them up in the wetroom-style shower to clear away blood. Police were clear from the forensics the basement and bathroom were the crime scenes. It's utterly grotesque. The fact he had hung towels over the basement window so no one could look in, was a big red flag to what went on there. SHUDDER!

Right? A half a million wouldn't have lasted that punk a year.

Totally agree. Approx the same amount Joel Guy murdered his folks for. These guys are beyond delusional.

This is an odd statement when you think of it. It sounds like a very threatening statement. And in the dad's case was the exactly wrong way to approach this. Being sneaky would have been better.

@@shawnnewell4541 I don’t imagine he had any clue his own son would do this

It reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where George is lying to the Ross’s about his imaginary house in the Hampton’s and they’re like ok let’s drive up there, knowing he’s lying, but playing along just to see how far he’ll go with the lie. Crazy

Joel had his own apartment but mommy and. Daddy had to pay for everything

You just listed 3 cases that have been very popular on KZfaq and pushed by the algorithm. Is your metric for proof always so small ? 3 cases across a decade constitutes “it’s happening a lot” Just to be clear that 3 Vs 7,753,000,000 Seems like almost a small enough number that you’d actually call it non existent by any measure.

@@mobilegameclips5628 what??? Go troll someone else about the algorithm, I was just making an observation.

@@oneluckygirlandherdog He did a little calculation for you aswell.

Check out the Jennifer Pan case

@@harrynac6017 I know right!? I'm the real winner here, I need to shut up and be grateful for the wisdom that has been bestowed on me. Sorry y'all 😜🙃🇺🇲

The girlfriend helped some, but I don't think she knew anything about the murders. He took advantage of her kind nature. Imagine her, I'd never trust anyone again

Yes his girlfriend helped with cleanup.

Don’t you think that sooner or later the person is going to get caught whether it’s now or when they are 85 ? Honestly I just don’t know. I feel jurors. However I’d love to be one.

I kinda doubt she would've, her relationship with her parents is a whole other ball of wax. Casey is a pathogical liar, she doesn't have the nerve to ever admit wrongdoing or risk whatever she considers bad for her reputation. She killed Caylee for the freedom without giving her parents the satisfaction of taking the child from her, admitting to them and the world she was a bad mom. It's all about Casey and her ego, all day and all night. She chose the party that was easiest to kill, an indefensible baby is the path of least resistance. She's spineless.

I disagree. I think she was drugging Kaylee and even put tape on her mouth so when she would wake up she couldn’t scream…These caused the child to either accidentally OD, or suffocate due to lack of air with mouth taped shut. She didn’t want her parents to watch the child and show how irresponsible she was and it kept her kid in danger. I don’t think she intentionally killed her daughter nor wanted to kill her parents as her lies were only exposed during the investigation, NOT because her parents were closing in.

I agree

Why did he leave his dads trousers on snd take his mums off. He might have tortured her before he killed her. He had plenty of time.

A monster

@Tonette Lewis I can't wait for that. Who are the defence gonna call in support of Chandler - the family's pet dogs?! Even they know he's guilty - a dog can smell a drop of blood in a swimming pool. He's toast.

I agree

What does it matter? Ffs some of you people are so bloody immature.

I totally agree with you. Just look what it’s done to us as outsiders ?!

Nope, it's a perfectly intelligent and valid point. The world is way overpopulated. People should think hard before procreating. Bart and Krista seemed to have a good marriage. Fact is they'd have had a long and happy life together if they hadn't become parents. Unfortunately society encourages everyone to think marriage and kids are the norm, and if you don't fall in line and comply with that lifestyle, you're a failure. That's very wrong. NOT having kids should be recognised as a perfectly acceptable and positive lifestyle too! In fact people should be applauded for choosing not to have children. If there were fewer kids, the ones that are born would be more highly valued and treated better. There would be less child poverty and maybe better parenting!

@@glamdolly30 thank you so much for saying that and making me not feel like “ a selfish b--“ That’s what a “friend” (if you will) said to me. Everything you said I agree. Society has it where you get married and have the pretty little wedding and then you are definitely supposed to have a baby. Lord knows the people who come up to me up and say “ well it’s y’all’s turn” or “ what are y’all waiting on?” And last but not least “ y’all need to hurry up because y’all aren’t gonna be young forever “ Ugh 😳🤣👹😈

@@SkybabyandStar Nothing 'selfish' about choosing to be child-free. What's selfish is having children and not raising them right. Not raising them right does not only mean abusing or neglecting them. It also means over-indulging them, and not setting down clear boundaries for good, respectful behaviour which will make them decent citizens. Sadly some middle-class parents are wilfully deluded about a disturbed child, and don't want to admit there's a problem with them and get them the professional psychiatric help they need. I bet there were many red flags in Chandler's behaviour as he was growing up. But the parents didn't want to think there was anything wrong with their son, and thought they could 'fix' him with love and support. Wrong! If you fail to set boundaries for your child, sooner or later society will. Chandler will spend the rest of his wasted life in jail - costing the taxpayer a fortune, as did his farcical trial. Bart and Krista are tragic victims. But they also failed as parents and played a key role in putting a dangerously dysfunctional man into society. Their part in this horrific crime cannot be ignored!

How is that sad and horrible? It’s actually a very astute and responsible thing to say. But like a typical breeder you think your lifestyle is the only path, “pathetic.”

Yeah but sick people like this prefer to do it alone 😳

He was reported to be tired by his girlfriend and girlfriends mother. Little did they know what he was up to or did they?

There was no emotion there at all

He for sure did it alone people like him have no problem as long their secret is covered they are willing to do anything

Lmao. 😂🤣😂yes

That was great!

I thought the same thing all day every-time he talked! I can’t stand to here the smacking or whatever that is! If it is dry mouth then he needed that big pitcher of water they has sitting there! Lol😳

@@KimmieWrangler thank you! And hello. The annoying sound of this is called Misphonia. I appreciate your response. Yes a pitcher of water. Lol.

Dry mouth could be from a medication he is taking.

@@DNV-bc5od yea dry mouth is not fun

My parents were great and always told me I had a home with them no matter what. That gave me the confidence to go my own way and move many miles away to London aged 18. I had dreams I wanted to follow, and not coming from money, knew I had to earn that money myself to make those dreams happen. So I guess I had very supportive parents like Chandler. But I had ambitions and would no more have been living with them, jobless, playing video games all day aged 23 than I'd have murdered anyone!

@Glamdolly30 Also, among my crowd, you were expected to have a job, and once you graduate from high school, if you live at home, you paid rent. It just wasn't cool to be living with your parents unless you paid rent. But then we didn't have video games either. And they can be addictive. My sister and her husband only let their sons use the family computer for homework. Other than that, they were out swimming in their pool, playing baseball, or going fishing with dad or walking the dogs.

But is she? I dont believe Chandler is capable of doing it all alone.

@@nicoleloves9483 yeah cutting up two bodies is a lot of work for one person

She helped, People, are saying she's so gullible that she didn't notice blood stains and believed every lie. But this is a Woman who followed EVERY step that Chandler made and they said they have Thousands of texts etc a day between them, and she said She Keeps Him In Line. This is not a gullible dipsey airhead who just says yes sir. Nope, she ran things and is on top of things. Not a mindless bimbo She was even at the verdict on her own no need for her to be there.

Every other culture in the world let their sons and daughters stay home until they get married or they earn enough to move out, and that doesn't happen often outside the USA... I don't think that's the problem 🤔 but idk

I agree; set the boundaries: if you’re an adult living in parents home, you respect & abide by their rules-if the rules don’t suit you, you are legally allowed to move out & start your own home. At some point you must start adulting. Parents need to let their adult ‘kids’ fly the nest. Stand by to assist throughout but the only way to grow up is to allow their “kids” to adult.

They need to do everything by the book so he has no reason to appeal......that's why it's called a fair trial.

Can't imagine someone buying that home. Demolish it, build a new house for sure

I agree, it looks like a dump anyway

Channel 3000. Every day

"He must be guilty 'cause he ordered a pizza, A PIZZA"

The head injury was a lie too. To get out of the lie of going to Florida for space x job.

He faked a fall down the stairs because he was jealous of the attention his brother was getting after Mitchell was diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes.

Never happened

And thinking you can cremate a human head in a little old residential fireplace? Comical!

@@azhaircountess9798 yes, I'm more of a sea burial man myself

Exactly and if he does why are they giving him a chance to even open his mouth. Damn !!! He’s demonic.

Yeah as if someone snuck in the house while he was out and took the time to burn the head(s)

@@zeballos5757 I guess maybe they started the job and he supposedly finished it out of panic so that the cops didn't think he murdered them? Like. Who is this kid trying to convince? The state, the world, or himself?

Don’t think there really is one lol

The wound on his toe was maddening 😫

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