What does several hundred dollars of Ferrari parts look like? I review some of my purchases for a restoration I'm currently doing at my shop. #tomyangnet
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@1BCamden6 ай бұрын
The joys of maintaining beautiful cars, just gotta smile, but you are right reproductions are a hit or miss thing. Thanks for sharing.
@tomyangnet6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Selmerpilot7 ай бұрын
Great stuff Tom. I’ve been making certain Ferrari parts for a while now, runs of 400-500 of a part number, which is a tiny run for a factory! Very challenging to get a factory to make a run on such small numbers. The rabbit hole is deep with Ferrari parts. If a production run is just slightly wrong, you have to wait until they decide to do another run and hope they get it correct. It’s not like there’s several companies making this stuff, it’s literally one company or one guy making certain items.
@tomyangnet7 ай бұрын
@Selmerpilot the other problem I see is manufacturers selling the imperfect run of parts to try to recoup the initial investment before trying again. These parts sometimes gets sold off to the retail suppliers, and are available to the unsuspecting end user. I get the problems. The margins selling $$$ Ferrari parts may seem lucrative, but it's far from the truth. If you want to make money, make Mustang parts! I wish I could thank the good manufacturers for sticking it out, and making a good product, but know I can't single handily support their efforts! Thanks for watching.
@MrJdubbya367 ай бұрын
Not only all that but parts suppliers know when something goes NLA and the price skyrockets. When I had my 308 I found a set of NOS tail lights, mine were ok but faded and crazed/cracked a bit. So I bought the set at something reasonable like $300. Last full set I saw like that and anywhere near that price. Folks even started making replicas. But once any other, even used sets, came up for sale after that they were well over $1,000.
@tomyangnet7 ай бұрын
@MrJdubbya36 some NOS parts are very hard to get exactly right, so the originals are worth paying a little extra. I know several restorations shops that went the extra step to make a reproduction part absolutely correct, only to barely make a profit after covering their initial investment and time. There isn't a cheap or easy solution! Thanks for watching.
@MrJdubbya367 ай бұрын
@@tomyangnet Yeah, I know, wasn't really complaining, it's just the way things work. Especially on the older cars there just isn't always a big supply of parts. Used to be pretty good stock at Ferrari UK in the old days for 308 stuff but even they started running out of stuff. I would say I can only imagine what you go through on the even smaller production vintage cars you work on but this video explains it really well. And some people still wonder why it costs so much to properly restore a car. They need to watch your videos. :)
@tomyangnet7 ай бұрын
@@MrJdubbya36 hopefully with more 308s, there will be more financial motivation for manufacturers to make reproductions. There may still be a little "Ferrari Tax," but that's the unfortunate reality of owning a Ferrari! The immediacy of social media doesn't tell the glacial pace for restorations, and the factor of time vs. money vs. quality often gets overlooked.
@richardg86517 ай бұрын
Ferrari premium - I get it. My mom has a modest condo in Palm Beach . She swears there is a PB premium every time she needs to purchase/service something.
@tomyangnet7 ай бұрын
@richardg8651 I think that's called a bridge or causeway tax! Thanks for watching.
@beatglauser94447 ай бұрын
I rather have things like these stopper rubbers being a bit to fat. You can always make them a bit thinner but no way you can make them fatter. I had to cut rubber seals tons of times when they were a bit on the fat side. Some lousier ones look terrible after cutting them down when they are to foamy. Funny enough I once replaced a trunk seal for my Chevy that was a bit to small. Turned out that this seal fit perfectly into another car, The replacement I got for this one was a bit to big. Sometimes it is rewarding when you can reuse some parts that nearly everone else would have dumped.
@tomyangnet7 ай бұрын
I have boxes of extra seals and rejected parts that I keep just in case they will work in another application. I also keep the old extras to prove the new ones have changed dimensions. Molds grow in size as they are used hundred if not thousands of times, so the rubber positive parts they make often grow in size. It's up to the manufacturer to make a new mold when the old one wears out. Thanks for watching.
@tomgill82677 ай бұрын
It’s a fair point you make Tom about the very small volumes the parts manufacturers can amortise their tooling/set up costs against. I have a 365GT 2+2 and when I first bought it, before I’d got used to the width of the front end, I bust the side light cover parking it in my garage. £700! What choice did I have, cover it with tape? (To be fair there’s only around 50 RHD left and they probably sell 1 side light cover every 5 years, if that.)
@tomyangnet7 ай бұрын
@tomgill8267 if you're talking about the torpedo shaped orange parking light mounted in the front bumper, these lenses are available from my lens maker. She has molds for a lot of Ferrari lenses, charges reasonable prices, but doesn't always know what they go to, so you need to send pictures of the originals so they can match it to the mold! Those that know about this treasure, know...Thanks for watching!
@tomgill82677 ай бұрын
@@tomyangnetGood to know though I plan to never need one again!
@S2NAZ7 ай бұрын
How frustrating 😮 I’ve received reproduction parts for other makes and models of cars and motorcycles and I’ve found that most of them don’t match the OE. The majority of these came from China. I was going to suggest consulting with a Ferrari club or association that may know a source, but given your history you’ve likely already investigated that. What about Wayne Carrinni with F40 motors? I wonder too Tom if you could machine the parts and create a mold to reproduce them yourself? Good Luck! 👍🏻🙂
@tomyangnet7 ай бұрын
@S2NAZ Whoever makes the parts, whether Italy or China, there sometimes feels like there is a lack of attention to details. Profit if often put in front of quality, and the prices seem to only go higher! I try my best to keep in touch with a lot of the restoration shops in the US, and some in Europe. I've known Carini for many years. In fact, my mentor gave Wayne his first Ferrari to paint about 40 years ago! Thanks for watching.
@S2NAZ7 ай бұрын
@@tomyangnet I just realized, the Italians probably buy the copies from the Chinese 😂 It’ll be interesting to see what your solution is. Good luck 👍🏻
@tomyangnet7 ай бұрын
@@S2NAZ this particular rubber manufacturer is supposed to be an OEM supplier that made these parts back in the day, but like many vendors, are not in the business of actually using their parts, so they often miss the point. Thanks for watching.
@studiolezard7 ай бұрын
Couldn't you shrink those gray seals? Maybe in hot water? Although I realize that they're a bit expensive to start experimenting with.
@tomyangnet7 ай бұрын
I managed to get them to fit and trim some of the excess. Thanks for watching.
@pklimbic7 ай бұрын
Can you buy a small 3D printer and make molds yourself, especially for the smaller rubber pieces?
@tomyangnet7 ай бұрын
There are so many skills to restore a car, and I have had to pick up quite a few, 3D printing has not been one of them. I still try to find time to get better at my machining skills, my metal fabrication skills, and my gas welding skills,...not to mention my video editing skills! But seriously, I would be faced with the same cost/benefit issue if I had to learn this skill from scratch. Thanks for watching.
@maoxian7 ай бұрын
A different sort of unboxing video on KZfaq... can you return the poor quality reproductions or are you just stuck with them?
@Selmerpilot7 ай бұрын
You can return it but there is literally no one else making that part. You make it work or wait until the next production run is done and hope they get it more correct.
@tomyangnet7 ай бұрын
I can usually return it, but there may be no other choice but to make these parts work.