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"Good lord man. Where have you put me?" "These are standard guest quarters sir. I can find you something bigger if you like." "Bigger? In my day, even an admiral would'nae had such quarters."

The ‘Golden age’ began when the Federations enemies collapsed. The Klingons at Praxis, the romulans into self isolation. For nearly a century the Federation was unrivalled. Simply turning up to a conflict was enough to make all sides sue for peace. The biggest problem they had was skirmishes along the Cardassians front. The Federation grew accustomed to being supreme, so much that future generations simply couldn’t conceive of not being on top. Wolf 359 did more than lose a fleet, it shattered the myth of Starfleet supremacy. It was the Federations battle of Jutland.

The whole Leah Brahms thing was, I thought, actually a very nice piece of writing. It demonstrates that when the holodeck reconstructs a person based on the information available, all it can do is make its "best guess". The reality can be different.

Considering that the Galaxy class might be tasked with escorting ambassador detachments, or literally settling or rescuing colonies, it makes sense that it IS a floating hotel in space. Space is big. A few weeks or months crammed in a small bunk might have worked when we were sailing the seas, but, well. Even a current trip to Mars would not be some exciting trip.

It’s basically the epitome of what Roddenberry wanted the trek universe to be at that point: luxurious vessel people explored the galaxy in which could defend itself if absolutely necessary.

The best modification for the Dominion war would be to replace the standard saucer for a less bulky, streamlined and modular "war saucer" with its own warp core.

Just give it a Sovereign warp core, remove the windows, strap on an ablative armor, and invent the phaser lance, and move the bridge to the center of the ship then it will be a proper canon

The Nebula class is a more sensible design. Everything is close to the main hull, and it has modular sections that serve specific roles.

counterpoint, its a goddamn battleship when you remove most of the crew, since its got so much empty space. you could easily convert it to an all-or-nothing armor scheme with the civilian crew removed, and its got enough space to retrofit any sort of weapon systems you want, plus its hanger decks make it capable of deploying massive swarms of fighters/interceptors to counter jem'hadar ships

The Galaxy Class is my favorite of the Starfleet ship classes, next to Intrepid & Dreadnought. When I started getting into Trek in my mid-twenties by watching TNG for the first time, I did notice it was more of a luxury cruise liner than an exploration or war ship. I always wondered what a more militaristic version of a Galaxy Class would have been like. Also, have said it hundreds of times, will say it, again. Having children on a Starship (specifically ones that deliberately & knowingly expose themselves to the unknown & dangers of space on a regular basis) is a HORRIBLE idea. I wonder how many kids grew up suffering PTSD after almost being killed or worse by the horrors of the universe like Nagilum, The Borg, the Klingon War Declaration of the Week, Lwuxana Troi, etc.

I do live on a military base. And we have plenty of Civilian housing for the families of the military people. We also have a theatre and a small Museum. We also have bars and gym a bowling alley. Hobby clubs like music and Automotive. There are a wide variety of accommodations depending on your rank and what you're doing here. A lot of which training. Other than the fact that they're really lacks in Starfleet when it comes to military discipline and their crew quarters are amazing although lower ranks do share rooms, this isn't completely out of the realm of possibility for a army base in space essentially. Although really it should be a actual base and not a ship.

Yes, they are pretty much glass canons. On the other hand, their size would allow a range of upgrades. I wouldn't mind seeing one modified like the Enterprise in "All good things ..."

Danube (Dan-ūbe) class runabout. Danube, as in the Danube river: not "Do-nob-bee." Swing and a miss.

I've imagined that as the Borg and dominion wars took place that each Galaxy had all family and useless areas removed. With all the space I imagine a Galaxy Dreadnought; pop up phaser arrays, phaser gatling guns stronger shields and torpedoes out the yin yang. No seperation, too stupid and time consuming. Just guns, lots of guns. Boi I'd like to see that.

Given the weapons of the age, it's pretty reasonable to call _every_ ship a glass cannon once the shields go down. Mere ordinary matter simply can't complete with the sort of witheringly destructive firepower enemy vessels can bring to bear. The Defiant, notable in-universe for having actual armor, still treated it as a backup defense system to the shields. Even the Borg, who can absorb damage and personnel losses better than anyone, still primarily rely on shielding for protection. Very analogous to naval ships since 1941, which can no longer rely on sheer thickness of armor plating to protect them from attacks, but instead were forced to rely on an 'immaterial' screen of friendly aircraft and rings of support vessels supplying anti-aircraft, anti-missile, and anti-submarine defenses.

Just think it through: a giant federation luxury ship can go one on one and survive with other dedicated warships.

The issue of the Galaxy is not so much of its design but of the era it was in. The Dominion War showed the true potential of the Galaxy as a premier front line Battleship and indeed had the Federation kept its military better prepared its likely the Galaxy would have likely given the Borg a harder time and indeed probably would have cowed the Romulans a little better, and lets not forget the Romulans warbirds are actual warships. Kinda makes me wonder but how is the Galaxy compared strength and power wise against the vessel that it replaced the Ambassador Class, and I'm assuming the Ambassador class was likely one of the last of the warship designs of the federation before it started strip that away.

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*[warning … long essay]* While considered by many fans as not a formidable ship and outdated by the time the neighbourhood got rowdy, that was just the configuration of the Enterprise-D - it's chief *_Diplomatic_* ship, as well as a scientific explorer and University research department.. With a cruise ship package installed as well. It was specified for _peaceful first contact_ and maintaining diplomatic relations. And visiting less advanced (or otherwise) cultures in a heavily armed battleship may impede the "we come in peace" message. It was the ship you send to say that the Federation is benevolent and not your enemy. But a Galaxy class set up from the shipyard as a warship (not a hasty Dominion war refit that left 65% space empty and still had those roomy apartments) would be a terrifyingly powerful ship. A what if… What if with the design, being very customizable and modular, different captains could get different options fitted. … *New Galaxy Captain:* Ok, I'll get the full science pack as well, along with extra sensors, that'll stop them fighting over access, and detecting problems at long range is always preferable, a _tachyon detection grid_ as well, I want that running full time in addition to the regular sensors. Skip the civilian stuff beyond standard facilities for passenger transport and dual use assembly areas, just stick in a couple of extra Holodecks to take up the slack if necessary. Any crew reproducing can be handled on a case by case basis depending on their species maturation cycle. Ship brats grow up fast anyway and can be assigned monitoring AI software to keep them out of the way, and the Holodecks can take care of schooling ect. Actually double that to 32 Holodecks total, they can be used by the science teams for bespoke labs and simulations if necessary and I intend for the rest to be used for crew training to keep everyone in top form. They're great for boarding action and intruder alert rehearsals as well, I intend for everyone to have full combat training and basic medical and first aid. Oh, and the database, I want holo experts and advisors in every imaginable skill area, and I definitely want it to run on a separate isolated system to the main computer, with its own power supply that has a physical manual override - I've heard some horror stories. Replicators - as well as the standard personal ones I want a industrial replicator next to each shuttle bay, with cargo holds adjacent, a extra large one, colony rated, by the main bay, and cargo transporters next to each, can you combine them into one unit as they both use matter energy converters? No,… really should look into that, a combo replicator/transporter/holodeck for small science vessels would be useful. Anyway the walls should be pressure doors to allow movement of items, just copy the hanger door design for safety. And I want a independent back up power supply for the largest replicator. And one near main engineering, one near main medical, same back ups. Also stick a couple of holodecks and a cargo bay near main medical, just in case of mass casualties. As for the bridge, no it's going to be located in the centre of the saucer section on the vertical plane.…We don't use windows anymore, so why? And install viewers on all surfaces, just copy the astrometrics displays so we get full 720° coverage … if you suffer from vertigo you shouldn't be on a spaceship anyway. Stick astrometrics next to it anyway, we'll need access a lot of the time. And I want the _Away_ teams ready room next to the bridge with access on the other side and large holoviewers so they can be kept apprised of the situation…seriously? What sort of *idiot **_uses bridge crew on away missions?_* …yes, besides the First Officer…Who controls the ship? The second stringers? And swapping over in an emergency is just asking for trouble, with over a thousand crew I'm sure I'll have more than _ten competent crew members._ In fact, stick a couple of extra seats on the bridge for some away team members, they can act as bridge security in the meantime. And have a full security station nearby as well, the main bridge is often a target in boarding actions. Put in another main security station next to engineering, both should be set up for defensive actions for the same reason…you've never had Cardassian boarders try to disable your ship, have you? Set up the battle bridge with exactly the same physical layout as the main bridge, can't be told apart by viewers…could be useful for deception, and at least crew familiarity, another security station next to it, don't want to leave a vulnerability. Now as for the warp core, in addition to _2 spares in storage,_ and I want the full replicator pattern for the main replicator, just in case…well, install a holodeck next to the replicator, it can make bespoke factories to construct the non replicatorable components and we just assemble from the ground up. I also want one warp core and drive installed and running in the saucer section, so it can move at full warp if necessary…without the _dolphin tanks and the arboretum_ there'll be enough space, and besides the extra power could be useful. But don't skimp on the battery back ups, I want mini generators for life support in each section as well, and emergency suit lockers in every room, …fine a small arboretum, just a greenhouse next to life sciences, but purely for research and a emergency air processor, not recreation, it's weird how it becomes unbreathable as soon as _life support goes offline._ I want some give in the system. The old bridge location at the top of the saucer…no, not an observation lounge, I want the biggest phaser you can mount with full coverage…something meant for planetary defense, that's another reason I wanted the extra warp power nearby, besides the colony replicator and saucer escape. By the way, any chance you could stick a second deflector dish nearby, a bit in front, the saucer would need it for independent warp travel and having vital system backups is part of my design paradigm, oh, spare computer cores as well, kept offline. Yes, and stick extra phaser strips, here, here, here, here, here here, and here. Now as for photons, 8 extra launchers, how much extra space do we have with everything included so far? … Well 5000 torpedoes … yes, you heard me right, 5000…I know we can replicate torpedoes, but not in the middle of a battle. You're right, make that 8 extra launchers above the standard 2…no 7 in front, 3 behind, that'll allow a 35 torpedo volley in front as a opening shot. And before I forget, that second warp core, I want heavy power conduits leading to the secondary deflector array…so we can feed *warp power* to it without overloading the main drive of course. Speaking of the power conduits, ever heard of circuit breakers?…well, just don't run them behind control interfaces, keep them behind armoured shrouds and run the controls through isolinear or bio-neural cabling. *And stop using rocks as insulation!* I want seat belts at all vital bridge stations, no inertia dampers aren't perfect, they only compensate for the ship's drive, not pot shots taken at you.…and that's why I want security personnel permanently stationed on the bridge, if the weapons officer is in hand to hand combat they can't shoot the enemy ships. And stick a pattern disperser on the bridge with a _manual on/off_ switch, I lost my left arm and both eyes to a Cardassian phaser when our shields dropped once … damn right I want a second shield emitter grid, that was a great suggestion, and some ablative armour, especially on the nacelles and neck, any chance of thickening the neck… my previous command was an Excelsior and that's a pragmatic neck design. Y'know it was a mistake to sue for _peace with the Cardassians,_ we had the upper hand and could have steamrolled them in space, if we brought the Klingons into it with treaty obligations. They'd have loved a *good war by our side,* I know what they _thought._ Mark my words, someday we'll have to fight Cardassia again, and they may get allies, imagine if they teamed up with the Romulans. Now you know why I want a battle wagon - and we don't know who else is out there, but they're possibly not friendly. Yeh, _both artificial,_ got a exographic sensor installed in the left eye, the bulky fake one with the surrounding plating, and a tricorder and phaser installed in the left arm, linked to my optic nerves.…really? A Vulcan officer on the USS Strata suggested it? Micro transporter and projectile weapon? I'll look into it thanks…hang on, he's just been resigned to the Grissom according to Starfleet … I've also got a PADD linked into my cybernetics. The right eye is just a standard cybernetic, I'm actually _full Betazoid_ but you can't tell without natural eyes. Don't worry, I'm not reading your mind, learnt some Vulcan focusing techniques to keep me polite …that's only the _females,_ in our species the romantic roles are the reverse of humans.… yes, I've imagined what a human male would do with my abilities. I've met commander Riker as well…you pushed the image into my mind, Vulcan discipline notwithstanding… and you're right, that's why I got training in shutting out other minds, that man's thoughts are a sewer, only empaths can tolerate him for long. [Sigh]…okay, I'll check what your partners feelings are about his ex, but only as a favour for the shield grid suggestion, I don't make a habit of it and I don't want you distracted from your work… _humans!_ How long will the ship installation take with the customization?… Don't worry, I'll get clearance from the Admiral. [Smirks to himself, humans and their sexual insecurities, no wonder telepaths make them nervous].

When starship design was not just practical but looked good as a model on the shelf.

"because mining an area is definitely what the good guys do" Well, considering that in both WW the most naval mines was deployed by the the uk, yes, mining is by itself is a perfectly neutral act, that both good and bad guys do. It is little more than a fence with a bit more than a barb wire on it.

I've often thought they should have used separation technology to it's modular conclusion. Create 2 ship designs created to be able to swap saucers. A galaxy class type that has most of it's science, support and family quarters in the saucer and a high power warp core in the stardrive. Minimal weapons in the saucer. Most in stardrive. In peace time primarily for deep space exploration and scientific missions. Ship 2 - nebula like ship with most weapons in the saucer. Stardrive has standard size warp core with engineering and support functions.. Stardrive can power 50% of weapons etc. In peace time used for patrol of federation space and light science construction projects. Akin to California class During times of war essentially saucers swap out. The nebula type becomes a lightly armed support vessel designed for rescue ops, refueling, post battle support and operations and security away from the front lines. The galaxy like gets the heavily armed battle saucer with it's redundant shield emitters and additional weaponry now fully enabled when connected to that overpowered stardrive.

I like Honest Trailer’s description of the galaxy class ships as “floating Marriott convention centers.”

A Galaxy class fitted out internally like a Intrepid class would be a formidable vessel. I wonder how the layout of _Yesterdays Enterprise_ Enterprise-D was different?

The galaxy class is my favorite ship design visually. It's round and smooth but projects it's size with authority. Sure ships like the Sovereign and Prometheus would spank it's butt in a fight and the defiant would at least bloody it's nose pretty badly it's the ship I learned my love of trek with. And for that reason alone the galaxy class is my favorite ship of all time.

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I think the Galaxy's biggest saving grace is the fact that it was able to be upgraded to the different needs of Starfleet at the time. But, yes, it was really a sign of how out-of-touch Starfleet was.

If I was signing up to a deep space exploration for potentially years without seeing a starbase, civilisation or habitable planet, I'd want a pretty luxurious ship to live on too. (I'm thinking of Voyager's long trip through the place without stars now).

I remember reading somewhere (I can't remember where or if it's accurate mind) that up to a third of the space on a Galaxy was left empty/unutilized. So that's a lot of internal volume that wasn't used for anything that could be intended for future upgrades, modular systems, etc.

True the galaxy class was a ship of it's time but as a fan of next gen I recall that besides the Borg, the enterprise was able to hold it's own against anything it went up against including dedicated warships.

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i loved your ship breakdowns

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Supposedly the bar on 10-Forward is specific to the Enterprise-D, not the Galaxy class. Out of space dock, it's a bunch of empty space (like you say, a space-faring block of flats or office building) which are used as their captains see fit.

Replication center sounds like a large scale version, rather than personal scale like in the quarters.

From beta canon there is a USS Excalibur-A, Galaxy Class, which is the succesor of the Ambasador Class from the novel series.

Do not apologize for the works of JarJar Abrums. Building subassemblies on the surface is not the same thing as complete planet side dry docks. Same way a carrier is built. Multiple small ship yards build sub assemblies that are then assembled like giant lego blocks in dry dock.

The replication center probably has a small industrial replicator to make stuff that's too big for a normal replicator, stuff like replacement parts to repair ship damage. Seems like most ships in Trek are glass cannons, except Borg ships (who have better tech than other races anyway) and the Defiant class. Then again Trek has shields and literal matter-antimatter warheads which are just immensely powerful against any type of armor. A ship surviving for longer than 5 seconds after it loses its shields only happens with plot armor (or the Borg) anyway. The increased mass and cost may not have been worth it for most shiptypes, especially before new armor was developed in the 2370s.

Without enemies at the door, the Galaxy was a logical conclusion, because, if you have the superiority, why shouldn't you use it? The main problem is maybe, that Starfleet always want to be entirely not military. If would be better to have a battlefield and a science fleet and adjust the strength of both arms, depending on the needs. To be fair, as you said, the Galaxy was able to defend herself and most of TNG the Enterprise was able to beat any enemie. The refit during the Dominion War lead to many encounters with the Jem'Hadar and the Question is: would a refit Excelsior better as a standard Galaxy in a fight? ;)

I'd love to see you review the Macross 7 (or New-Macross class) which is literally a city in space, for comparison. It seems to me very inspired by Next Generation's take on space travel, but does it much more honestly.

I think the Galaxy class makes very logical sense in its era. There were very few external threats, especially ones that seemed to be expansive. The Cardassians were aggressive, but in early encounters the Nebula and Galaxy were competent to go up against anything the Cardassians had (they could have just used more ships in this case). So instead of building up a big military and possibly provoking neighbors, they would focus internally. Flying around in a civilian luxury cruiser is much better for recruiting new Federation members, but still capable of dealing with space anomalies and emergencies. Though it wasn't a great idea to have the civilian families in cases where it was dealing with frontier encounters. I imagine if they had more Nebula and Galaxy available, they would have more dedicated to frontier assignments and dangerous anomalies, and keep the civilian orientated ones in internal assignments like diplomacy and first contacts.

Oh baby! I was a teenager when my dad finally cracked me and I started watching TNG with him and that episode made me a fan for life. When they separated the saucer section and went to the battle bridge I think I got goose bumps. That was the day I became an uber nerd. And now I can do the live life and prosper hand thingy like a boss. I get negative all the women with that one

Glass cannon. Thats being generous. I'm pretty sure if given half a chance and the opportunity to kidnap Geordi, (lets be honest he's just a Stockholm queen like princess peach) That even an orberth class ship could take out a D era Galaxy class.

I think that you underrated them. You did note the space for cargo and personnel. I think, when launched, everyone would have been aware of the potential of that. The ships, even straight out of dock, could be used as assault ships, colony ships, or aircraft carriers (or, of course, luxury cruise liners). They were made to be upgraded as time went on. The hull was made of various materials in layers totaling over a meter thick, which isn't anything like a star destroyer, but put the protection of any real battleship ever built to shame. That's without shields. She could still glass a planet at short notice, just like they could, even at launch. A couple of hundred torpedoes was the standard complement but nowhere near what they could carry in total (cargo bays?) It's a lot of ship, and with a lot of it still empty at commission, a lot of ways it could go. I think that points toward Starfleet's wisdom in that the ships had room and capability to be changed, upgraded, even upgrade themselves to some extent, into whatever was needed in the future. Exploration cruiser? Science ship? Mining? Bring salt to a colony somewhere? Something to be moved? What you need this week? I got 5 million tons of kapow for you right over here. She'll do fine for 100 years, or until the writers need her to crash into a planet. Guaranteed. Putting civilians (even, especially, family members) on board was fracking dumb, though. NGL. Liked and subscribed.

As shown in the first few seasons, they really were going all in as an exploration ship for long duration missions. Having family close by would make it easier to keep officers onboard for years at at time without rotating out crews. You nailed it on the head though that Starfleet was basically full of themselves having been unrivaled so long. So the Galaxy design initially suffered. But by the Dominion War the Galaxy's shown in combat seem to be the powerhouses of the fleet, when they open fire enemy ships not only take damage but physically are pushed back from the force of the impact. I can see the Galaxy's mass and that continual stream of Phaser Energy being devastating once upgraded for war.

Punches like a battleship, holds diplomatic conferences like a Marriot Convention Center

I've said it before and I'll say it again - Galaxy-class Enterprise is Best Enterprise. You're welcome to disagree with me, even if you're wrong.

People say that the Galaxy class was only a glass canon without its shields, but the evidence from the episodes suggests it couldn't take much of a beating even with its shields. In Yesterday's Enterprise, in which the Galaxy class was built for war, the ship suffered damage to the warp core very early in the fight when the shields were still holding up, and the ship suffered very heavy damage, including anti-matter containment failure, before it lost shields. The ship was designed in such a way that it could have been destroyed even with its shields still up and working. The original Galaxy class could could have a warp core breach if someone sneezed. The Constitution Class held up much better even without shields and with the engineering section being targeted directly (Wrath of Khan) and even after its shield had been battered into nothing (Undiscovered Country). It seems that over time the Federation was able to correct this flaw in Galaxy class ships built later on, which is how the Odyssey lasted so long against the Jem Hadar and why the class was so effective during the Dominion War, but the original Galaxy class ships like the Enterprise D would not have lasted long in any battle with the Dominion. The one thing the Galaxy class has going for it is that it seems it can fight literally until the last second, continuing to fire phasers and torpedoes until the moment the warp core explodes. But this might be the actual problem. The Constitution class lost power and the use of phasers when its engines were damaged, but the ship held together and the engines could be repaired. The Galaxy class continued to draw power from the engines even as the engines were going nuclear, and there was nothing that could be done to save the ship.

[TLDR: a spare saucer just full of weapons, that can be hot swapped in case of trouble or war]. (TLDR Warning is not idle). Starfleet should take advantage of the modular nature of the detachable saucer section. Apparently it's a lot easier to build a saucer section than a drive section (makes sense, it's just a simple shape with components filled in to requirements) as shown by it being used in other designs, such as the Nebula, and even fitted together as space stations. Specialised saucer sections could be constructed, optimised for specific mission concepts. To very quickly develop a world, a saucer could be dropped off at a planet and either become a fully capable orbital facility (And that may be how the multihulled saucer stations were deployed), or deorbited (in a controlled non "Generations" manner) and become a ready built city on the ground, opening up and expanding to become the hub of a future metropolis. However, one shot hulls that just use the drive section as a tender are just the beginning. Another option is a Saucer that's just giant Replicators and transporters, that's used in construction, like a variation on the repair station the NX Enterprise encountered (with a different style of main computer). It could also develop a planet very quickly by just replicating facilities and beaming them down to the surface, or into orbit. It orbits for a fortnight and a new colony is suddenly a developed World. And then there's the military option… Instead of having to refit for 'possible' future conflicts, which takes time, have a saucer that was effectively a battlestation or weapons platform - nothing else, no crew except for maintenance access, minimal life support (or uses drive sections life support) ect. It's fitted to a Galaxy's secondary hull when needed, swapping out the 'nice' friendly peacetime hull, and relying on the battle bridge, warp core and shields (although it may have extra shielding and ablative armour) ect of the drive section. And while fitting it with an arsenal of phasers is tempting and useful, it's still just one ship with one set of shields and can be destroyed as such, if you can briefly withstand the fire. At close range it would be priority target number one of the enemy fleet, and it needs a lot of power for all the extra phasers (secondary reactors?). Still some more phasers would be handy for missile defense and eliminating attack ships and corvettes, lower power phaser strips wouldn't tax the systems too much as the primary damage dealer is just torpedo after torpedo continuously hitting. Using it as a missile truck/artillery barrage is a better use of it's abilities. The saucer could hold thousands of photon torpedoes (not quantum torpedoes, they are 'expensive' and in limited supply, and space is not an issue - quantum are more compact) and dozens of launchers for simultaneous launch of large salvos. Plus the massive computer systems of the Galaxy could handle the processing of all that targeting information. It could have similar firepower to DS9 (which had 5000 photon torpedoes), but in a mobile package. And then it just rains down massive long range barrages of photons at range, sort of like a souped up version of the homewold missile destroyer. Imagine a fleet manoeuvre where as an opening salvo, hundreds of photons rain down on the enemy fleet as they approach for engagement. It could also be disguised to look like a regular saucer section to sensors, with dampening fields hiding the arsenal if the extra expense was warranted in peacetime, before the Dominion war. If expecting trouble (say going to Romulan space on a piece of unconfirmed intelligence) it could be swapped into the drive section and potential adversaries would never know what they were facing. Or just keep them in reserve in Federation facilities without the extra build requirements of *Q-ship systems, in case of a hot war, which could break out at any moment with the Romulans, and without the structural compromises of windows and other ergonomic hull cut outs. Also since they are just a standard hull design without a warp core, navigation, sensors or other complicated components they are easy to build. Since, as mentioned above, the same saucer is used for the Nebula class saucer Starfleet obviously has mass production for it. Or once the Dominion war started they are built to reequip every Galaxy in the fleet. After the first is built and swaps out the standard saucer, the previous saucer section is retrofitted, and as each ship gets it's battle saucer fitted, the old saucer can be quickly stripped out and modified to replace the peace saucer on the next ship, leaving no down time for ships in the field. Considering that war time Galaxies had up to 65% free space, it's obvious that more systems could be fitted, if they had greater down time. And magazines for torpedoes are the simplest (and most effective use) of all that real estate, even without turning it into a unmanned remote weapons station. Or different concepts could be utilised, with a more tanky direct damage phaser version with a lot of extra reactors, a fighter carrier and general field support ship (a bit of a waste, just reequip a older ship) and so on. Note this concept could also be used for Excelsior class ships, as they have detachable saucer sections. Although the ability to reattach is an upgrade, a quick swap could be done at a shipyard. To standardise, Galaxies could be the longer range missile boats and the Excelsiors could be the closer range direct energy shooters with extra phasers and even disruptors - as many guns as it could carry. *Q-ships were used in WW2, it was a freighter turned into a gunboat with hidden rapid fire cannons behind panels ect. It was designed to sucker submarines into surfacing to use their deck guns to destroy lone unarmed ships instead of wasting expensive, limited torpedoes. As soon as the sub surfaced and before the deck gun could be manned the panels fell away and the sub was sunk before they could react. In Star Trek they could be used if you didn't happen to have three cloaked warbirds to back you up.

The Galaxy class took a lot of time and resources to develop but based on what we see on screen they don't take long to actually build after the first few worked the kinks out. It wouldn't be a surprise for them to replace the Miranda and Excelsior as a workhorse of Starfleet as time goes on, especially with how few people are needed to actually run them with time making that number go down, leaving more room for science staff.

I would have called the Galaxy Class a bit of a Tank... except it's shields lost power at the drop of a hat and sucked SO much power in the process that it could disable the ship. The drive, though huge and powerful, was almost always inadequate to the consumption level of the ship when under stress (when you'd want to be able to access 100% power), and it's protective plating was.... not so protective. When the shields popped, it didn't take much to break it. And most times, when the shields popped, it also would wipe out major power systems with the backlash, like engines and weapons, and sometimes lifesupport. In addition it's weapons, though powerful, were VERY slow firing and basically used as deterrents. That ultra long weapon strip on the saucer, though convenient for all-directional attacks, fired far too slowly. They did 'fix' most of this for the Dominion war, turning it into an actual tanky command ship, with better weapons and ones that fired far faster, as well as multi-target fire, instead of one at a time. They finally found a balance between shield strength, shield power consumption, and engine energy output to NOT have those heavy shields buckle immediately under a few shots.

My favorite description of the Galaxy class ships is "spacefaring Marriott Convention Center."

I like the Galaxy class, but I ADORE AND LOVE the Nebula.

I believe the Replication center was for bigger objects. Although for some reason they also did smaller objects. But from the one we see, it could handle bigger objects.

I’m not a close follower of Star Trek, but after finding your channels, my interest has grown. If someone has already answered this or you have done a video on it, please direct me to it. The Dominion war lasted a couple of years. Near the end of the conflict, what were the primary ship types included in the assault on Dominion held territory? When I watch an old episode of DS9, I see a lot of ships, most of which seem to have saucer sections. This video has me wondering why? I would think after several years of war, the bulk of ships being constructed would be more like the Defiant class than the Galaxy or older Constitution class, Why not build a bunch of streamlined “battle-bridge” ships-I’m referring to the Enterprise part below the saucer section. No need for the decadence and comfort you mention in this video. Also, one reason the USA and Russia won WW2 was their ability to outproduce the Axis powers. The Sherman and T34, for example, were much simpler than Panzers to manufacture; had standardized parts; were easier to maintain, repair, and even upgrade. Starfleet didn’t seem to do any recognize any of those lessons from history.

I watched twice. The begging worked!

Was the bar on every Galaxy called Ten Forward? I’ve only ever seen blueprints of the _Enterprise,_ not the generic Galaxy class layout, but I guess I assumed that the section was referred to as a rec area or lounge or something, and then each ship got to name it something unique.

Hearing the Galaxy described as a glass cannon is interesting. I always thought one of the things about the Galaxy-class was how over-engineered, and full of redundancies and backups, it was.

2:06 a TOS novel set during the refit of the Enterprise its specifically pointed out that the engineering hull is in drydock in orbit while the saucer has been taken to the surface of earth for its refit.

I look at it this way. Considering the pace of technological change through tng, d39 and voyager and the pace of change in the galaxy class through that time frame, i put the galaxy in to blocks. These are galaxy class fleet wide changes. With each block change the galaxy class becomes more durable and powerful. Galaxy Block 1.....original season 1 tng galaxy. Galaxy Block 2.....tng mid season 2 (by this point it has clearly had refits and upgrades) Galaxy block 3.....tng after wolf 359. (Enterprise is in dock for serious repairs and upgrades, that would be implemented galaxy class wide) Galaxy block 4..........ds9 season 1 (the enterprise will be the same as the USS Odyssey) Galaxy block 5.........ds9 and after (the galaxy god mode dominion war refit. The refit that made them a battleship!). In my head cannon for the dominion war refit, is that it was such a huge job they just built "war saucers". These are saucer sections dedicated to auxiliary power generation, massively expanded energy storage to stay in a fight WAY longer and still be effective and carrying fighters. Hence the only 60% full or something like that lol. Plus they would get an enhanced warp core so they can keep those reserves nice and topped up 😁. I think war saucers would work in a society like the federation. Yes we have just turned a hippy truck in to a battleship, but look, it still looks the same so its ok.

I use to love the Galaxy-class but the more I look at it in my old age the more I think it was "sheer f**king, hubris." In the episode where the whole crew is mind wiped to fight someone else's war, Worf takes one look at the tactical system and calls the Enterprise a battleship....loaded with children. Starfleet was so far removed from any real wars that they didn't think they would ever face one again. They knew they needed big tough ships to keep up appearances but never thought they would have to use them to they allowed the crews to bring their families. The Odyssey disaster was the equivalent of HMS Hood in WWII and the crew having their families on board when Bismarck blew them out of the water. When the Enterprise took on the passengers of the sleeper ship from the past, one of them compared it to a luxury cruise ship. This ship is just a confused mess built on folly.

Just gonna throw this out there incase no one geeked about it yet, the standard reicators were for small items and food/beverages. The replicator bays were meant for larger items like beds, furniture, equipment or instruments and for mass materials for example the tons of metals needed for rebuilding shuttles or other large components that may be needed for repairing the ships. Voyager under the table clearly used these bays to replenish their torpedo supplies and built how many delta fliers?

Dan-U-Buh class runabout. named for the river.

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10:44 Dan Yoob, named after the river in Europe

Instead of using as a Frontline combat vessel, why not use them as troop transport for Marines and ground combat vehicles and dropships?Since the ship could carry 6000 easy. And that's a use that was discussed in Yesterday's Enterprise

Replicators in their room was for food, an may be some small items. The replication centre was probably for bulkier items, bat'leth or components for a new shuttle.

When I first saw the Enterprise D in 1987 I did not like it. In fact, I thought it was ugly. But as time went on it's design grew on me. Indeed the Galaxy Class is one of the best looking federation starship models to be given the name Enterprise second only to the TOS Constitution Class refit.

"A City with a local garison that doesn't would take war seriously" 100% agree. And Worf is the watch comander always worried about the bandits before the City gates who get laught at by the mayor aka Picard

Best ship design ever! Their dmca has disappeared the last vid and thus my comment.

One Thought: IN "All Good Things", Riker's uprated Enterprise D had a third warp nacelle. I never got a close look at it but does it connect to the saucer section and not the engineering section? That would have allowed the saucer section to have warp ability. With its own separate warp core, it would double the available power to the ship as well. When fighting as one ship, that extra power could be what powered that 'super phaser' mounted on the bottom of the saucer section. With that much power available to ONE weapon, no wonder if fried the advanced Klingon ship in one shot. The extra power would also make the ship faster, have stronger shields, as well as power the cloaking device it was shown to have. We know that Voyager was supposed to have two warp cores. And that warp nacelles come in single, duel or quad units. Could that have been part of the prototype tech for that ship that split into three different warp capable attack craft in that one Voyager episode? ( I forget it's name of course). Just an idea - if I had a model of the ship instead of just working from my memory of the Tv show, I'd know if what I thought of was possible.

I've always thought it stupid that they didn't at least have blast doors for all the windows, part of going to Red or Yellow alert would be those doors coming down.

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The galaxy did have a major refit, but whatever is said about the galaxy, she did great work as flagships, in real world capital warships built solely for war have been sunk on there first assignment. ( several examples)

I think it would be pretty fair to describe the Galaxies as a sort of "accidental" battlecruiser. With battlecruisers typically you have a cruiser concept stretched to field larger weaponry whilst retaining high speeds - historically the only exception to this was HMS Hood, which had battleship protection and achieved all three by being huge (the Iowas are very similar in this sense), but where the Galaxies *could* have had superior protection they instead devoted a great deal of mass to things that were politically necessary for Starfleet, but overall made it a considerably worse warship. Personally, I'm rather of the opinion that building a ship to try and fit such wildly different mission requirements does nothing but guarantee the ships failure, regardless of the virtues of its crew.

This breakdown sounds like it was given by Admiral Markus from StarTrek Into Darkness ...

I always kinda figured the replicator area was for big stuff, like for feeding the dolphins, the hole in the wall jobs are gonna take a while to make enough kippers to fill a barrel 🤣🤷🏻👍

10:45 - I have never heard "Danube" pronounced like that before.

I kinda wonder if the warp core and other systems on the Galaxy class had a mild waste heat problem so the ship had to be so cavernous for the extra surface area to dissipate the heat. Once you've done that you might as well make the crew quarters large and start allocating areas for labs that are rarely used. The remaining space probably just gets built around with hallways creatively arranged so nobody quite realizes the ship has so much unused space behind the bulkheads.

My first thought for a replication center is for replicating things larger than a suitcase and for things you couldn't compile together after replicating smaller pieces

The Dominion made short work of the Odyssey. The dominion and the Cardassians were more concerned about facing the Defiant than facing a Galaxy class ship.

Agree that the Galaxy class was really symptomatic of the strengths, and complacency, of that era of the federation. Even including the federations refusal to deal with the need for heavy combat abilities .. even after the problems in the Cardasian war, and Borg threat. Roddenberry said he wanted the ship to feel like a liner in space. Odd request for a front line naval craft.

It would be interesting to see a comparison of this ship to the version in Yesterday's Enterprise.

It's a ship of it's time, just like the Sovereign and Akira are ships their time. When the threat level drops Star Fleet will return to this ideal, because, it's not strictly a Military. As much as some people hate hearing that, it's true. Would have been fun to see how far they could upgrade the Galaxy Class, the amount of internal space was massive, even more so than the Sovereign. An armored Galaxy Class with enhanced shields, Quantum's and and type XII phasers would have been interesting, but also a little sad, because that's not what it was designed to be.

I liked the galaxy class. Yeah it was a peacetime exploration vessel, not a warship, but I think it shows the Federation’s technological superiority that a glorified luxury liner outgunned 80% of its peers in its initial outing. And I think it shows starfleet’s adaptability and foresight that when the Galaxy class was proven to be outgunned by the dominion and the Borg, the Federation was able to not only upgrade the ship to go toe to toe with overwhelming enemies, but then take what was ostensibly the flagship of their fleet, and start churning out those suckers like sausages. From 23 ships that got their teeth kicked in by the borg and the dominion, to enough ships in the class to regular lose a half dozen in every engagement, while beating every enemy they came across. That’s starfleet in a nutshell.

I think the Replicator Center is probably for creating larger things. Short of like having a standard size home printer in your apartment but having a huge industrial plotter that print out giant 10 feet x 40 feet posters and such.

I'm going to play devil's advocate on you a little bit. Supposedly, the Galaxy class was supposed to be mostly empty space to be filled up as their captains or individual missions saw fit. Enterprise-D had bars and barbers and cetacean labs because it was intended for deep space exploration, it has all of these amenities because it's supposed to be keeping the crew in positive spirits while they travel for years at a time outside of or on the fringes of Federation territory. It would make very little sense to fill the Enterprise up with war fighting equipment when it is not expected to ever go to war. It would be like Ford building every car with bullet-proof armor, it's expensive and diminishes performance and you don't need it 99% of the time, and you can observe that Enterprise D does just fine with its airbags and safety belts until the movie. Odyssey probably was equipped for war, or at least was stripped down to the essentials, and Dominion War era Galaxies probably didn't need to be refit exactly, just repurpose their empty space for munitions or troops or ECM or whatever. I don't get the impression that any of the civilians onboard Enterprise were unnecessary, they were all families of the crew, or people with jobs to service the crew, like the bartender and barber. (Note that real life navy ships do have barbers and shops on board, HMS Elizabeth even has pub) There's obviously an inherent danger to being out in space, but based on a lot of episodes, you could argue that there's plenty of danger out in the frontier colonies or in civilian convoys, or god forbid an Oberth, which is where a lot of these scientists would probably be working if not on the Enterprise. Recall Jake Sisko describing how much more vulnerable he feels on a planet than on a ship or space station. A Galaxy class ship is probably still one of the safest places to be keeping your family, if you're a scientist who needs to be bolding going where no one has gone before.

Ah, the Galaxy Class starship, the federations answer to a 4:3 tv screen format.

This iteration of the Enterprise always struck me more as an AIDA-Cruise ship in space than a mobile research and exploration vessel. The luxoriousess you are mentioning may be a big part of that. All in all it is a fitting vessel for an interstellar society drink with its own pacifist hybris.

The Galaxy-class has consistently been my favorite class of ship, despite the fact that it's not the most powerful. This is likely due to the fact that I was introduced to Star Trek with The Next Generation. I like its appearance, and I like its broad array of capabilities. Any time it was in a battle, my interest was piqued. However, I will admit that I was disappointed that, at least on some occasions, the Galaxy-class was made to appear weaker than I thought it should have been. Some of this, I blame on ineffective writing. (Star Trek: Generations, the TNG episode Rascals, even the alternate timeline war in Yesterday's Enterprise). Something else that caught my attention is that, when the Romulan D'Deridex is introduced in TNG, and with several standoffs between the Galaxy-class Enterprise-D and a Romulan warbird, the general consenses is that the D'Deridex was a formidable match for the Galaxy-class. Yet, Starfleet didn't seem to field a high number of Galaxy-classes, despite the fact that almost every time they encountered a Romulan ship, it was a D'Deridex. True enough, they still had Nebula-classes which were quite highly capable, and later would introduce the Defiant and Akira-classes. But seeing as the Romulans obviously had a number of warbirds, and in sufficient numbers that whenever the Federation encountered Romulans, they would be encountering warbirds, I would have guessed more Galaxy-classes would have been constructed to even the odds a bit.

I think in some ways, while Starfleet was pushing away from a military mindset, they never truly forgot. It has non of weakness, or at least as pronounced, as the Constitution with a thick neck, phasers located across the hull, built-in deflector dish, and a highly modular hull able to not only put additional torpedo launchers on the ship but make it easy to upgrade. It may try to pretend it is not military, but it still serves the fleet as a military asset. Though I use the ship as a long-range command and supply ship for deep space explorer ships, not as thee Explore Ship. Also, I assumed the other replicators are industrial replicators for making larger furniture their small replicators can't make, and parts to repair the ship when far away from a repair dock.

Alright, on watching this video and reading some comments. I'm going to pitch something i have no idea how stupid it is: What if the galaxy class had mission specific saucerers that could swap out at star base layovers? Expand that concept: THe docking/unmooring is shown to be doable at speed and even in warp. It's an expensive gimmick, but it gives the chance for so much INTERESTING ship design that would justify kitbashing to maximize molds and sculpts that toy and model makers would have. Think of it. Enterprise is warping into a crisis situation. Federation KNOWS they're heading into a shitty situation. So send in a more battle appropriate saucer with a wrp sled (basically an engine core and nacels) that would then undock the battle saucer, pick up the moresicency oriented saucer that had the families and civillian crew, and either wait til the fighting dies down, or make a full retreat. Could have everything from a miranda-esque star drive that cradles around a saucer to something like the nx refit type of profile, and so on. The idea being the brasswants to justify the expense and time researching this complicated docking system and it actually turns out ot give the federation a swiss army fleet.

The replicating centers makes perfect sense if you think about it. Your average food replicator is roughly the size of a microwave and can only make items that size(Captains and vip quarters seem to have longer ones). If you want let's say a turkey breast, you're all set. But If you're having people over to your quarters for space thanksgiving or for whatever reason you need a whole cooked 40 lb. bird, go to the replicating center. A small throw pillow, your replicator. A body pillow with your favorite anime character printed on it? Replicating center. Love your videos bro, keep trekkin

And also, the saucer separates from the engineering hull so the families can escape and the Star drive section fights the aliens. Okay, if the Star drive is destroyed the aliens can go after the saucer easily b/c it has no warp drive. So the families get blown away. Or if the aliens don’t destroy the saucer it takes years for the saucer to get back to Federation space (if they’re on a deep space mission).

If we're being fair as to why the Enterprise was so overbuilt for aesthetics, its because it was the flagship of the Federation and as such they'd be doing things like hosting peace conferences and first contact missions, and so it needs to not feel like a massive military ship. I mean, it is, but they hide it really, really well.

Links to videos you referenced would be sweet

My understanding is that starfleet isn't a military organization. It's akin to our NASA plus FEMA. It's a scientific and civil organization. It's primary focus is exploration and humanitarian aid. Besides, the ship with its civilian use can stand toe to toe against a dedicated warship so maybe the Federation can probably field more of these big beefy tanks than anyone else.

“It was type of ship that was part of its Era, good and bad”. Yeah, I have problems accepting the Galaxy-class as a viable warship during the Dominion War. The Akira, Steamrunner, Defiant and Sovereigns made sense as they were designed right after Wolf 359 as part of Starfleet's anti-Borg initiatives. And they've never gotten into, in detail, about what new changes they had made to bring the Galaxy-class to that level. Upgraded shields, a couple of phasers and new torpedoes, yeah, but I can never see this thing being as fast, hard-hitting, or nimble compared to the newer ships in combat.