In before people get upset about the sponsorship. I was on the fence, but contractually didn't have a choice. Magic Spoon is awesome though - the topic of the video was my choice.

If someone is critical of you because of your size, that is their problem. Such ad hominins show that that person has no good nor reasonable argument to make. it means they cannot argue merits, only engage in strawmen and non-sequiturs. Stay strong, you are better than them. "I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." -Margaret Thatcher

@@LoreReloaded What is most important? Family, feed your kids and get paid like everyone else.👨‍👧‍👧

I love Magic Spoon!

I don't agree with your conclusions. I don't think the current situation mirrors at all the run-up to the Dominion War. If that were the case, than the "insidious" organization that Garak and Quark talk about is the United States, and whilst I'll agree that the US Government hasn't always done the right thing, the US isn't the organization that the Federation was/is throughout the various series. If the UK, France, and Germany have a problem with Putin invading Ukraine that sounds like a problem for the UK, France, and Germany, not the United States. The ultimate question would be that are you willing to risk nuclear war with Russia over Ukraine. Are you willing to trade Kiev, or Kyiv, for Washington, NYC, or fill-in-the-blank US city?...

Babylon 5 had the best monologues 🙂

@@mrlake8808 I thought the words fit on whats happening in the world right know.

Makes sense as long as the oppressor isn't able and willing to simply render you extinct. The Dominion has shown they are able and willing at least a few times during DS9.

G'Kar was great and shows the potential that Tomalak COULD have been had he been used more in TNG; a complex adversary with many different facets and motivations.

@@DocWolph The Centauri tried to do that in Babylon 5. Lucky for the Narn, Vir was helping to get a lot of them out of the concentration camps, his fiancé admitted to being part of Eugenics project to "cull" aggression out of the Narn gene pool by massacre whole settlements. Lots of parallels exist in real-world, like illegal use of Mass Drivers by Centauri = Modern tactical nukes, if that genie gets unleashed on the world in regular warfare, it will be ugly. People can resist guns, jets, and tanks, but nukes will make this a war to the death without any restriction. Babylon 5 is sort of scary when it comes to political ideas and concepts. I do wonder though, who would Mr. Morden/Shadows be in our real-world scenario.

Even after Star Trek VI, the Federation was pushed back into war with The Klingons by an outside party looking to weaken both sovereignties against each other. Hopefully China isn’t the “dominion” forcing its 2 most aggressive rivals in the UFP/USA & the Russian Federation/Klingon Empire into attacking each as it quietly amasses its own forces to bring its own vision of order to Alpha/Beta powers-that-be…😬😬😬

@@aztn19 Indeed. That would be terrifying.

Descnding into the Mirror Ubiverse because most folks like being ruled over and become tyrants themselves. Now triple mask and get your jab or lose your job.

@@mrichar9 I was referring to Russia.

Beltalowda!!!

@@Skull1Hunter Beltadowda!

Great reference, a man of culture

@@TheSquad4life Thank you Sir.

Well, and until those other single species galactic powers, the Dominion was something of an anti-Federation: a collection of different species whose individual strengths were harnessed for the will of the Founders. They could use the Federation's greatest assets against them. They were a much better mirror of the Federation than the Terran Empire of the Mirror Universe ever was.

I just find the argument shallow as there are always safer places to start a colony in. When data had to evacuate the colony before Sheliak got there, it was their leaders pride that almost got killed. You may be morally right, but that doesn’t mean the better choice is to eat a piece of humble pie and live another day.

The cardassian ships actually had an advantage is raw firepower. The federation had technological and therefor tactical advantages. That is true in Star Trek books and even in DS9 you see cardassian warships one shotting dominion fighters after they switched sides. Going head to head with cardassia was a BAD idea and the federation was correct not to do so. As far as the colonies, it would just be easier to get over their pride and start a new one. Heck, even cardassia would help them move if they asked for it. It reminds me of when data had problems evacuating the colony before the sheliak arrived. The leaders pride almost got them all killed. There’s ALWAYS a new place to start in outer space. What dukat did was out of desperation. The Klingons would be more to blame. But imho the Klingons were RIGHT to invade cardassia and the federation should have helped them. But hindsight is 20/20.

I don't think the Klingons were right to invade Cardassia they weakened themselves and made the Cardassians feel bad enough about their situation that the idea of joining the Dominion was welcomed by nearly everyone. Gowron was somewhat tricked by the Martok changling but it was also based on the Klingon desire for conquest which they were beginning to get over after peace with their long time rivals the Federation had been cemented. It was bascially taking a big step back from all the progress the Klingon Empire had made in the last few centuries while a hungry predator the Dominion was waiting for its chance to strike the entire Alpha quadrant. I think war with the Dominion was pretty much inevitable but if all the major Alpha quadrant races had been united from the beginning they could have taken the fight to the Gamma quadrent instead of fighting such a costly war on their own side for so long. Part of this was due to interference from changling operatives but I think the fault lies with the Federation for not suggesting to every other power that they form a pact to defend each other if war with the Dominion breaks out. I would think the Romulans and Cardassians would welcome it after their intelligence agencies had antagonized the Dominion with the failed attack on their homeworld. They the Federation and its allies might have avoided the battles that weakened them before the Dominion war broke out. This was likely due to an overly optimistic pacifist approach where the Federation assumed they could avoid war if they weren't aggressive... Sadly they didn't understand the Dominion's conquerers mindset.

Did someone said Peace through Power

Yup

There must be something in that Heineken if you can stomach STO; the repetition of the same damn thing over and over and over. Urrrgh

@@miamijules2149 I still have noob enthusiasm

@@miamijules2149 I was disappointed with the removal of the Genesis exploration cluster missions. Despite being repetitive, there was a certain randomness to them. The storyline missions as you point out, are basically doing the same thing over and over again with no variability.

well I would just send Imperator class Titan... There is nothing like overkill...

STORMHAMMER! Hell, why stop there? SEND IN THE MACRAGGE'S HONOR!

Send the phalanx just to make sure.

@@davidhughes7547 If only Mechanicus could actually deploy the Speranza...

@@davidhughes7547 meh, nothing a CRAFTWORLD can't handle!

Indeed. Much like some real-world nations, the Cardies reneged on agreements because their long-term goal was conquest.

@@davidford3115 gotta keep up with the Cardassians!

No surprise. Rick Berman and company plagiarized from the Babylon 5 series bible that Mike Straczynski pitched to Paramount.

In ds9 and voyager, they are referred to as colonists who want to live their life as well as some whom are terrorist organizations

@@LoreReloaded it makes sense that the Maquis would start off as simple colonists, maybe had been in Star Fleet at one time, but I think what began as a defense force (as Star Fleet essentially abandoned them) turned into a quasi-military and even brought along some mercenaries later on.

it had impulse drive, shields generators and weapons in saucer section

Yeah, very odd post by OP. The saucer section has weapons. Weapons are kind of useful when entering hostile territory.

It’s cold but in reality They were warned not to settle so close to the border originally Then offered evacuation like you said You make a lot of good points I think it’s good to feel sympathy but at the same time apathy Apathy because being overly sensitive and concerned could have lead the federation into war it didn’t need Sympathy because those people were fighting for their homes However they should have realized you can replicate and replace things you can’t replace a life The federation was justified for acting as it did and preserving starfleet for conflicts in the future

@@derpenberg1946 I think data even told them that things can be replaced, lives can not.

@@Optimistprime. yeah ensign of command was a great example honestly

It took him time to realize that he was chasing a shadow. Weyoun was able to play on Dukat's ego. Seeing the man break helped to star that epiphany in Damar, but it still takes tome for a man to come to terms with such a shift in perspective..

Also worth noting, Damar was still deep in the sauce and hadn't kicked the liquor yet.

Lawfully, no. That was made clear in S4 of Discovery. Practically though, if a Federation member does declare independence, it's unlikely the Federation would invade to bring them back in. The Federation in fact lost most of its members after "the burn".

@@RK-252 In the example I gave a group of humans colonized a planet which then became a federation planet by virtue of federation citizens moving there. The federation never respected their clearly stated intent of being independent and in fact raised arms against the people in order to enforce a treaty with cardassia. In the end the federation agreed to allow them to become citizens of cardassia who agreed to leave them be because the planet itself wasn't strategically important, but who knows what became of them following the dominion war. So anyway, we have an example from TNG of the federation being willing to take up arms against planets who chose to leave the federation long before the marquis was a problem, but in this unique example they declared independence decades prior to the treaty. This means that the federation didn't even bother to fight them over it. They just ignored their wishes and traded their planet anyway. This at least supports your argument that they probably wouldn't go to war over it, but it's actually worse to act like they didn't declare independence to begin with. The core problem here is that, unlike in the real world where citizenship can be revoked, the federation does not allow revocation AND any federation citizen who colonizes any unclaimed planet automatically makes it a federation world which can be traded on a whim. That's definitely tyranny.

I don’t think “no grains” is a good thing though. Tell me how it is if I’m wrong. Just seems like empty calories even if it has a lot less of the garbage cereal has in it now a days.

Quite a bit was plagiarized from Babylon 5. Though I route taken with the Maquis was original to DS9.

Yea, shields can protect against projectiles or other vessels but it does damage just like phasers or a torpedo , a shop could also be destroyed by trying that to

There are a very few times shields have actually stopped suicide attacks; the one time I can think of outside of shuttles involves a Cardassian attack ship losing its engines and slamming into DS9's shields (not exactly a suicide attack per se, but same overall effect) during the Dominion's attack on the station. Given how shield harmonics work in the setting, it is possible that a ship deliberately ramming could adjust its shields to match its target's shields, in which case they can basically just slide in easy as you please. Given the afore-mentioned Cardi ship had lost its shields in the attack, that could be why it just impacted the shields and didn't hit the station itself.

the thing is the galaxy class had switch it shield power to weapon because the shield wore not working

This is all very interesting thank you guys for your comments

This is very accurate.

@@goransekulic3671 Lukashenko even has that Gul Ducat vibe without any makeup… 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@adarret Explain.

@@goransekulic3671Lukashenko has that Cardassian look and attitude without any of the makeup, could even be a Cardassian in white makeup and a suit… 🤷🏻‍♂️

Except Dukat and Putin are nothing alike as persons. Putin being an obvious Introvert don't really lend itself well to comparison with Dukat. Sure, their actions and outcomes are similar, but that's about it.

@@goransekulic3671 Having never met either of them I'll have to take your word for it. But yeah, they're pretty much the only things I could find....

cardassophobia 😭

It was something of an analogy to the Appeasement policy of the Western Allies towards Germany.

@@davidford3115 Except not. The Cardassians might have been bad but the actual treaty defined the DMZ.

@@OllamhDrab Uh, when Rick Berman and Irah Steven Behr themselves said as much, it is kind of hard to refute.

Ukraine and the US made a lot of choices that helped this happen. All Russia wants is a buffer zone protecting is border.

Let's be careful about this. Remember how the mujahideen were praised in their struggle against Soviets in 80s? While there is little risk of same happening with Ukraine, it pays off to be mindful both of the history and the future. To be mindful in general. Lest you end up looking foolish. Russia is an aggressor and thus automatically guilty(especially now that they started shelling everything indiscriminately - or at the very least it seems so), but Ukraine(kinda with all the corruption etc) and, especially, USA + Germany aren't exactly innocent either. Scholz really should've left Severny Tok 2 well alone. Especially because he campaigned for it for like 10 years. Won't even comment that senile fossil. They were CLEARLY PROVOKING shit(how else do you call shutting down SeTok 2?).

Bout the oddasey I doubt it

The thing about Borg being like the federation is correct and Eddition said as mich

That's my wife, sorry

It was an analogy for the Western Allies appeasement policy towards Germany.

The federation told them they wouldn't be able to come help them if things go bad. The maquis said they could handle it and would be fine. I don't think the federation is 100 percent innocent but the maquis are responsible for themselves.

The federation re maquis is Bidens America

I heard they fought well... for a non-spiritual people

Why is everyone just accepting at face value that ukrain is the good guy here?

@@promnightdumpsterbaby9553 A question that is pretty much valid?

the thing is the federation tried to get these colonies to leave before the cardis took over

So is this inferring that the events didn’t happen or just that it’s informational ?

As originally created, the Cardies were supposed to be Prussia Germany (think Kaiser-Reich). The Dominion were straight-up Nazis. While the Klingons were originally Soviets, they morphed into something blending Vikings and Samurai with the help of Michael Dorn and J. G. Hertzler. The Romulans were a cross of classic Roman Republic and Fascist Italy.

Wut

As early as Season One there was discussions of the Dominion, if you look. The Ennis and Nol-Ennis prison Moon? Who do you think created that?

It’s based on what they said, Las

Who's saying the Wormhole terminus in the Gamma Quadrant was within Dominion's borders? I've figured Starfleet went a-waltzing through the wormhole, stuck their nose into Dominion territory, got the Dominion pissed off and _then_ the Dominion "annexed" their way up to the wormhole terminus, which the Feddies thumbed their noses at until shit hit the fan.

@@davidford3115 True, though the Dominion were just whispers and rumours to the Alpha Quadrant powers in DS9 season 1, with the Ferengi trying to find them to do business with them, which they only got close to doing (through the Karemma) in season 2

@@LoreReloaded And yet the DS9 crew mention multiple times after "The Jem'Hadar" and before the war, while in the Gamma Quadrant, that they're a long way away from the Dominion.

TBH that's when they should have mined the wormhole...

History repeats itself. The parallels with the 1930 are staggering. The Maquis was an analogy to that period.

They got bombed and captured… but thankfully yea..

​@@LoreReloaded yep , thankfully , wasting their lives like that would be pointless. Still, it was a shameful lie, as we can see often on Western side. Short list of some anti-russian propaganda we have seen thus far: - Russian tank that ran oven civilian car in Kiev was a Strela-10 Ukrainian air defense system. - Video of Ukrainian MiG-29 shooting down a Russian Su-27 was a Digital Combat Simulator animation. - Video of Ukrainian pilot shooting down Russian jet was a screen recording from Arma 3 video game. - Russian cruise missile that blew up the side of a residential building in Kiev was actually a Ukrainian air defense missile fired by the Ukrainian military. Etc. etc. etc. Im curious if Russians manages to prosecute the recent Zaporozye nuclear plant incident. I love your videos

The Jem'Hadar know that their "gods" exist. Yes, they are fanatic, but they see the work of their masters every day. Same cannot be said about the wormhole prophets. Keep in mind that the Dominion on the whole is very nihilistic.

@@davidford3115 But they are still religeous Zealots, the Fact that they can interact with their Gods would strenghten their Faith if anything. I wouldnt say nihilistic, Id say pragmatic

@@ottersirotten4290 Cult of Personality. I don't disagree that they are fanatical zealots. But their actions follow what has been seen with previous national leaders who cultivated personality cults such as Joe Stalin, Chairman Mao, Pol Pot, or the Kims of North Korea.

The "religion" the Founders imprint onto their thrall would supersede any other, and lead its adherents to believe that theirs is also superior to any other, along with allowing them to do nearly anything in the name of their "gods". Ring a bell with any of the followers of the various religions of Earth?

Yes and no. Remember how the Maquis started: native American colonies in the DMZ that refused to evacuate. The VALID argument of the Maquis was that a government several hundred light-years away were dictating terms that didn't affect those negotiating the terms (think American colonies and the British Parliament). Now, where the Maquis went wrong was that they engaged in acts of violence and terrorism.

@@davidford3115 Oh, never claimed the Maquis didn't have a good and valid argument in support of their choices. (Incidentally, it was only Chakotay's colony that was Native American. From what little we've been told, there were a number of different ethnicities amongst them.) And I'm not even saying their choice of war was necessarily something wrong. But from that point, they'd chosen to take their fates in their own hands. The Federation was no longer in the picture, and the ultimate result fell on them.

@@sundoga4961 I will agree with that particular nuanced view of the situation.

I think most of us can differentiate between Vlad Putin along with his cronies and the Russian people. Hell, I suspect that many of the peoples of Siberia and Kamchatka are not big fans of the government in Moscow.

While I can appreciate your background and heritage, I can’t respect the Russian government nor the military at the moment

@@davidford3115 Na we arnt lol

@@LoreReloaded oh of coarse same lol Putin and the government overall rn arnt being the best they could be to put it simply xD like not my Russia Lol I’m of Russian manchurian birth so I’m from the part of Russia people tend to forget exist lololol not mainland Russia

Also you know I love Star Trek when I use the word shunt in a sentence xD

They actually did try. The Dominion stonewalled them until the destruction of New Bajor Colony. And even then, the Dominion still refused to open diplomatic channels.

I fundamentally disagree. Art is meant to highlight the atrocities and shows us ourselves. It’s not disrespectful.. it’s a way to highlight and empathize… Atleast in my opinion. I’m ok with people disagreeing.. and I could care less what someone’s thoughts are on how I pay tribute to 9/11

That said, I hope his in laws are ok :( my thoughts are with him

@@LoreReloaded let's agree to disagree. I think the wound of Ukraine is still to fresh for us in the eu

The Maquis were an analogy to the 1930s. The parallels with today exist. Tell me how Russia taking Donbas or the Crimea is any different than the Sudeten Land?