Game Scoop! 628: God of War 2 Will Rage On Both PS5, PS4

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3 жыл бұрын

Welcome back to IGN Game Scoop!, the ONLY video game podcast! This week your Omega Cops -- Daemon Hatfield, Justin Davis, Sam Claiborn, and Mark Medina -- are discussing topics like God of War 2, the big games of 2022, the big games of 1998, and more. And, of course, they play Video Game 20 Questions. The music in this episode is from Blazing Lasers on TurboGrafx-16.
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@LawrenceKassab
@LawrenceKassab 3 жыл бұрын
First time I've seen Mark since before he lost the weight. Wow, looks so healthy and good. Congratulations, it's so hard to keep it up.
@WardenFG
@WardenFG 3 жыл бұрын
Wow how about you keep your thoughts to yourself next time you want to talk about someone else's body.
@SimonBoulter
@SimonBoulter 3 жыл бұрын
The Horizon devs admitted themselves, that riding flying robots was cut from the original, because the PS4 could not handle it. That will probably be cut again from the game, because it has to run on the base PS4. That is the generational difference, NOT just HD and 4k. Many people are concerned about features potentially being cut because it has to run on PS4. Features like the dimensional portals in Ratchet and Clank only being possible on PS5 due to the SSD and other features we probably can't even think of. Hell, remember when Shadow of Mordor had the nemesis system fully cut from the PS3 version? Complete features fully cut, because last gen versions can't handle them. That's why people are concerned last gen will hold the games back. I'm sure the games will still be great on PS4, but the generational differences are NOT just superficial features like 4k and faster loading times. That's a pretty dismissive stance to take in my opinion. Having to run on a machine from 2013 can definitely hold the games back in terms of gameplay. Not just FPS, loading times and resolution.
@PhinneusPrune
@PhinneusPrune 3 жыл бұрын
Ok. So what you are saying is Sony should cater to 5 million potential customers and screw the 110 million customers who have been with them for the past 8 years? Ok 👌 *I own a PS5 and have no issues with cross gen titles at the beginning of a platform generation. It has been happening every generation since generations were a thing
@codybishop7526
@codybishop7526 3 жыл бұрын
Precisely. So much hand waving from professional gamers just because this is Sony. But just a couple of months ago these same people were mocking MS for making Halo cross gen. It’s sooooo disingenuous.
@codybishop7526
@codybishop7526 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhinneusPrune I thought that Sony believed in “generations”. They said that when they mocked MS for coming forward and admitting Halo was cross gen. Well at least MS was upfront and honest about this instead of pretending that they had a bunch of PS5 launch exclusives in order to hype the PS5, and only waiting until 6 months after to admit it. Jim Ryan is a liar, and fanboys gladly defend them for doing the same thing they mocked MS for. It’s like a cult. The cult of Sony fanboyism.
@SimonBoulter
@SimonBoulter 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhinneusPrune I addressed the comment from the host, and I said that the generational difference is more than just 4k and fast loading. I never once said what you just suggested and I never said that the game shouldn't come to PS4.
@PhinneusPrune
@PhinneusPrune 3 жыл бұрын
@@SimonBoulter My point is be happy you are getting a God of War sooner. Because if you want a PS5 only version built utilizing a PS5. You will be waiting years before the next God of War game. And that doesn't benefit anybody. Besides. God of War Ragnarok is going to be like Miles Morales and Uncharted Lost Legacy. A smaller game that is designed to expand the story and the world but with a faster Dev cycle. They probably already began work on a PS5 only title but at the same time this. So just take the win that you are getting a game sooner and be happy. Because you will eventually get the PS5 masterpiece further down the line
@ometony
@ometony 3 жыл бұрын
Mark's reaction almost falling over to Sam's multi-genre question in 20Qs 🤣
@TheKindredblades
@TheKindredblades 3 жыл бұрын
God of War delay is the least surprising delay EVER. All they had shown was a LOGO.
@FlannelBat
@FlannelBat 3 жыл бұрын
I love starting the weekend with this show. Always such great content
@misterhoobomaster
@misterhoobomaster 3 жыл бұрын
4 examples of things we'll likely get in GodofWarRagnarok because it's a cross gen game. (all these below are hidden loading screens) - Slowly squeezing through things - Fast traveling requires to go between the realms. - Using the bifrost taking a long time. - Scripted runs (like during the 2nd Baldur fight)
@patrickdoherty4527
@patrickdoherty4527 3 жыл бұрын
I can live with that.
@ratulsadid
@ratulsadid 3 жыл бұрын
As long as the game is as good as the first one it doesn't matter.
@syedmahmoodmustafa4082
@syedmahmoodmustafa4082 3 жыл бұрын
@@ratulsadid nice the Gow1 dlc expansion for ps4 pro will be epic
@ratulsadid
@ratulsadid 3 жыл бұрын
@@syedmahmoodmustafa4082 Its going to be a good game no matter what the technical limitations are.People have gone as far to harass the Developers for releasing it on ps4.Some of the idiots are taking this too far
@talalahsan6824
@talalahsan6824 3 жыл бұрын
@@syedmahmoodmustafa4082 Is halo gonna be an Halo 5 expansion ?
@norbertdemeter6669
@norbertdemeter6669 3 жыл бұрын
What a great show, i laughed at a lot of moments, especially when Mark heard the new advanced-mode question :)))
@joshnevin6269
@joshnevin6269 3 жыл бұрын
Man had to till Friday for the scoooop!!! Have they been every Friday now even though ive watched an all 😆
@hanzo90
@hanzo90 3 жыл бұрын
People have more PS5's now after the time of release then people had PS4's after the time of it's release so to say that it's because hardly anyone has a PS5 is pretty ridiculous
@kevinmurphy3653
@kevinmurphy3653 3 жыл бұрын
"We belive in generations" Sony - 2020
@toaster4693
@toaster4693 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they reversed that dumb decision, at least until PS5 is actually released.
@mO-gy8ee
@mO-gy8ee 3 жыл бұрын
@@toaster4693 both xbox and PlayStation would have held out and come out in 2022
@buggy946
@buggy946 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the classic tunes, I love you guys! You rock and roll
@Jigalipuff
@Jigalipuff 3 жыл бұрын
42:49 for Justin's uncontrollable laughter
@Dontre
@Dontre 3 жыл бұрын
Whats the opening 8bit track? Its so catchy.
@robinstrikes
@robinstrikes 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, why isn’t the GameScoop video on @spotify as well? Love the podcast and listen & watch podcasts on Spotify, would be great if you can make this happen
@thefearmakerlive
@thefearmakerlive 3 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with Justin on them putting God of War Ragnarok on the PS4 because of the supply constraints of the PS5. This game has probably been in production for at least 2 years, they were not going to leave behind 115 million ps4 players on a 10+ million seller game, for the PS5, which without supply constraints, may have only 25 million units out in the public at the time of the game's release. Ratchet and Clank and Returnal are not huge 10+ million seller games. So they can be incentives for people to upgrade. But Games like Horizon and GOW Ragnarok are not only system sellers, but software unit sellers. And Sony wants that sales money. Hopefully there is a free PS4 to PS5 upgrade for both Horizon and Ragnarok.
@spazco8669
@spazco8669 3 жыл бұрын
yep, If this was made from scratch to take full advantage of the ps5 then like ratchet and clank it wouldn't run on ps4. Both GOW and HZD were always going to be crossgen.
@kevinmurphy3653
@kevinmurphy3653 3 жыл бұрын
Dev kits dont just appear when the consoles are released, devs have them a lot longer than you might think
@EternalRedGamer
@EternalRedGamer 3 жыл бұрын
What song is in the outro and what game is it from?
@ParadoxalDream
@ParadoxalDream 3 жыл бұрын
13:41 Casey had that debate on NVC lol Apparently, everyone thinks it's pronounced ARKEUS, but that makes no sense because a C before an E is pronounced like an S.
@Doug_Hannon
@Doug_Hannon 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard that Nintendo uses the hard C because Arse is not family-friendly language in parts of the English-speaking world. Not sure on the validity of that though.
@jannikrafaelandersen6960
@jannikrafaelandersen6960 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the intro/outtro Music from?
@theroyalattire
@theroyalattire 3 жыл бұрын
Blazing Lasers
@USMCbrantley
@USMCbrantley 3 жыл бұрын
The Tomb Raider movie was also mention in the tidbit section I thought that was a good movie back then.
@marioq8395
@marioq8395 3 жыл бұрын
As a PS5 owner i understand GOW2 being cross gen but am disappointed. Ratchet and Clank showing the seamless transition between full worlds wouldn't have been possible if they had to make it run on PS4. I would prefer the amazing team at Sony Santa Monica not have to hold back their vision for full hardware. I am sure the game will be amazing but it does lower may full expections.
@coltonpiper6156
@coltonpiper6156 3 жыл бұрын
In God of War, the fast travel thing door that Brock made for us to use would be instantaneous. Agreed. I’m sure it will be another awesome game, but expectations have lowered just a slight bit.
@otogigamer
@otogigamer 3 жыл бұрын
It's possible for rachet to be on ps4. As far as I can tell the portal jumps are planned so they can code it like as if it's an open door.
@joshrogers6669
@joshrogers6669 3 жыл бұрын
I totally forgot about San Francisco Rush!!! Man I played the hell out of the N64 version. That was a favorite in my circle of friends. San Fran Rush and Resident Evil 2 (not re2 on n64 though :-)
@Arikaiden
@Arikaiden 3 жыл бұрын
Killzone Shadow Fall and Infamous Second Son were not playable on PS3
@DarkFlame0wns
@DarkFlame0wns 3 жыл бұрын
That blazing lasers intro!
@IGNGames
@IGNGames 3 жыл бұрын
Good ear!
@Keivz
@Keivz 3 жыл бұрын
Blazing Lazers through the whole show. Makes my heart sing. One of the most amazing soundtracks of all time!
@irvyne6111
@irvyne6111 3 жыл бұрын
PS1 sells 10 million in 3 years. That’s WiiU numbers right there.
@xxxshinomorixxx
@xxxshinomorixxx 3 жыл бұрын
God of War, the flagship visual masterpiece of the company, over any other title should not be held back in any possible way, so they can showcase the pinnacle of art.
@thisscreensucks
@thisscreensucks 3 жыл бұрын
Pinnacle of art? I mean its pretty. Also. Are you really trying to rush art? Who tells a master artist. "HURRY IT UP ALREADY" gamer kids in gamer communities have warped expectations to say the least. Just go about your life and play games once their out. Instead of bitching about a delay. You'll enjoy the game more if you don't sit there anticipating it with every bone, crying about a delay. These are the same kids who act like a bad game release is a warcrime. Never delay a game ever, and if you rush it out snd it's bad they make death threats.
@gotz1516
@gotz1516 3 жыл бұрын
@@thisscreensucks at no point did he mention anything about rushing the game or wanting it out earlier. He simply said he doesn't want the game held back by last gen hardware which I agree with 100%. This game should not be cross gen. Learn to read, idiot.
@xxxshinomorixxx
@xxxshinomorixxx 3 жыл бұрын
@@thisscreensucks I'm for the delay. I'm talking about the forced cross gen.
@joshuagershinson9916
@joshuagershinson9916 3 жыл бұрын
Killzone Shadow Zone and Infamous Second Son weren't playable on the PS3.
@danieljames6503
@danieljames6503 3 жыл бұрын
I just can't agree that the only difference between ps4 and ps5 being resolution and frame rate for these cross gen games is a good thing
@CJeffHarrison
@CJeffHarrison 3 жыл бұрын
Yea it’s also level design, which could definitely hold back the ps5 version
@syedmahmoodmustafa4082
@syedmahmoodmustafa4082 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's why selling my ps5 and getting series x and a Ps4 pro
@ParadoxalDream
@ParadoxalDream 3 жыл бұрын
Mind you, Justin was only talking about racing games and God of War. It's an entirely different discussion for games like R&C Rift Apart or the future big open-world action RPG games that will leverage the speed of SSDs to allow gameplay mechanics we've never seen before.
@andrewanderson3415
@andrewanderson3415 3 жыл бұрын
Damn Sam still no suit coat? Please give us a throwback outfit
@johnnydi2203
@johnnydi2203 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t ask “Did anyone really believe this would release in 2021” Ask “Did Sony really think this would release in 2021?”
@iFish12
@iFish12 3 жыл бұрын
shout out mark medina!
@Gd2knw
@Gd2knw 3 жыл бұрын
Lets see how well ratchet sells
@ahhcmon9604
@ahhcmon9604 3 жыл бұрын
2022 is gonna be an all-time great year god of war, horizon 2, breath of the wild 2, starfield
@ahhcmon9604
@ahhcmon9604 3 жыл бұрын
@JMB I'm 43 lived through alot of gaming 2011 was a good year 2008 sucked at least during Christmas I didn't say it's the best year just one of the best in recent memory
@oliverdavis4642
@oliverdavis4642 3 жыл бұрын
@@ahhcmon9604 isn't horizon still 2021?
@ahhcmon9604
@ahhcmon9604 3 жыл бұрын
@@oliverdavis4642 yeah but I have a feeling it's gonna get delayed
@Garbodor__
@Garbodor__ 3 жыл бұрын
55:06 AGH = Arcade's Greatest Hits.
@Slangwell
@Slangwell 3 жыл бұрын
Double most of the scores on Legend of the River King for GameBoy Color in the EGM magazine and that would be more accurate...
@VernonParker
@VernonParker 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree with what they said at 12:58 about companies just walking away from older hardware. The hardware might have been obsolete after the newer version came out but they so conveniently forget that hardware manufacturers, until the last gen of hardware, worked very hard to make the new systems backward compatible with older hardware. The PS2 played PS1 software. The OG PS3 played PS1 & PS2 hardware. The 369 played more than half of Xbox OG software.
@trent82
@trent82 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the Goldeneye April Fools joke, I actually did it and when it didn't unlock anything, I assumed I had messed something up so I did it a second time. Only then did I eventually realize it was a joke. It involved needing to play on the hardest difficulty and beat the hardest level while bumping up some of the extra difficulty modifiers...something like that.
@mappybc6097
@mappybc6097 3 жыл бұрын
At 00 Agent diff, Really? No wonder people got pissed. Goldeneye, as great as it was, had some of the most bs levels of any fps I know. Finishing those at the highest diff must have been torture. Still have pstd flashbacks of screaming at Natalya for standing in the open eating bullets while desperately trying to keep her alive or having to hear Alec Trevelyan's cheesy one liners over an over as I chased after him during that final bs mission that to this day I swear is almost entirely luck based.
@trent82
@trent82 3 жыл бұрын
@@mappybc6097 No, it was at 007 difficulty. The game had three standard difficulties (agent, secret agent, and 00 agent) but then you could unlock something called 007 difficulty after beating the entire game on 00 agent. 007 was customizable and allowed you to make the game even harder. You had to beat the Aztec level with a bunch of these difficulty sliders turned up. The full details are probably online somewhere.
@mappybc6097
@mappybc6097 3 жыл бұрын
@@trent82 Damn, I barely made it through on agent and never could pass that stupid control mission on 00 agent, kudos to anyone who even unlocked 007, much less finished it.
@zengamer21
@zengamer21 3 жыл бұрын
Have to push back on what Justin said about PS5 games mostly just being higher res. The worlds can be designed differently on PS5 because of the SSD. They could have have larger more open worlds to explore on PS5.
@johnnydi2203
@johnnydi2203 3 жыл бұрын
Came here to say this. It’s an astonishingly popular take.
@PhinneusPrune
@PhinneusPrune 3 жыл бұрын
Shows how little you know. The only thing digital Foundry said was, "Yeah. We have no idea why anybody would think a faster SSD would give better resolution, better visuals or higher framrates. Hahaha ... it won't". And that is a direct quote. You are confusing loading assets faster with "Bigger worlds". No. The game isn't going to render with higher resolutions and faster framerates. That is what the GPU and CPU does. All it will do is allow you to move through an open world at superfast speeds with less asset pop in. Which is never an issue because in games. Your character in a car or on a horse is moving at a pace where world loading is never an issue anyway. You guys need to stop acting like the superfast SSD makes the PS5 the best console ever. It doesn't. And yes ... I get the theory behind virtual Ram. So sure ... less bottle necking. But the difference between the XBox Series and the PS5 is negligible in this untested instance.
@Christopher-md7tf
@Christopher-md7tf 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhinneusPrune wtf are you even on about mate. OP didn't even mention Xbox, their comment was about the SSD allowing for different game design, which yes, is true, just look at Ratchet & Clank. At no point did they say or even imply that an SSD gives you better resolution or framerates.
@PhinneusPrune
@PhinneusPrune 3 жыл бұрын
@@Christopher-md7tf the XBox is relevant because the OP spoke of PS5s SSD necessary to make huge open world games. Seriously? Its an SSD. There is some narrative amongst Sony fans that the SSD is the most important part of consoles and PS5 is somehow leading the way in tech innovation and has the ability to create open world games and no other system can. Not even the PS4. You guys watched the Spiderman PS5 reveal from a year and a half ago and somehow thought it means an SSD is the most important part of open world games when all they were saying is a faster SSD just allows for faster loading of environment assets allowing for a more detailed and faster loading world when zipping through it. It doesn't increase framerates. Doesn't affect resolution. It doesn't make resolution better. Just faster load times. Nothing more.
@Christopher-md7tf
@Christopher-md7tf 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhinneusPrune lol you're tilting at windmills dude. Literally nobody argued any of the stuff that you're ranting against. OP's comment was about PS5 vs. PS4 and the impact of SSDs on game design, not Xbox vs. PS5. Only a triggered console warrior would even think of the latter. Next time, try not to get overly emotional over stuff that you imagine other people said lmao.
@bonafide227
@bonafide227 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait yes I am getting my PS5 version day one
@SuperHario64
@SuperHario64 3 жыл бұрын
What's the deal with Justin Davis censoring himself from liking Virtua Cop at 31:58? Is this some kind of dumb political thing?
@gjones86
@gjones86 3 жыл бұрын
The other guys didn't do him any favors with the inexplicable moment of silence after Justin stated his fondness for Virtua Cop; maybe he thought that came across wrong. Virtua Cop is a classic and I'm glad someone at IGN remembers it fondly. Confidential Mission and Ghost Squad, are probably spiritual spin-offs that continued their legacy and hopefully it's a series that will return in VR one day.
@jackkoski9505
@jackkoski9505 3 жыл бұрын
You've got to be kidding me, if that is the case. Don't even began to start drawing a line in the sand as to what type of violence is okay to glorify games, good lord. If someone isn't comfortable shooting people as a "virtual cop" but is fine slaughtering people in Hitman 3, they've lost the plot completely.
@SirCrofty
@SirCrofty 3 жыл бұрын
I can only assume it's something to do with it being a light gun game, in that you're using a realistic (ish) gun to mow down human beings. I agree it's pretty dumb. You could certainly make a tasteless light gun game that's hyper realistic and super gory, but Virtua Cop is not that game.
@rickybobbyroode9814
@rickybobbyroode9814 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that you even ask that shows you’re literally just looking for a reason to be offended. Just enjoy the show and stop acting like a nut job. I swear IGN has the worst fans of any media.
@SuperHario64
@SuperHario64 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickybobbyroode9814 I'm not "offended" by anything. I just think it's a bit pathetic.
@mikeybeeee07
@mikeybeeee07 3 жыл бұрын
I don't want Mark to die :(
@SolarasNaracott
@SolarasNaracott 3 жыл бұрын
I thought everyone knew about the All Bonds thing. It was a big deal when I was a kid.
@thisscreensucks
@thisscreensucks 3 жыл бұрын
"I knew something so I assume everyone does" Thats the definition of ignorance. Hey buddy. People have difference experiences than you.
@stuartleckie
@stuartleckie 3 жыл бұрын
So, if I’m to believe Justin, as someone who is still quite happy with a 1080p TV, then I really don’t need to bother trying to find a PS5. If, as he says, the biggest difference is PS4 1080, PS5 4K, and as most of the games appear to be coming to the PS4 for at least another year, then I’m a pretty happy gamer.
@ParadoxalDream
@ParadoxalDream 3 жыл бұрын
That's only true for some genre of games. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart for example could never run on the PS4 no matter what resolution or framerate you target, because the SSD is what allows the game to let you switch levels on the fly instantinously. Add loading screens to that game and it completely ruins the gameplay mechanic. The farther we will get into the new consoles' lifespan, the more "exclusively next-gen" games will get released. Eventually, big open-world games will leverage the SSDs and allow for gameplay mechanics we've never seen before, and such games won't be able to run on last-gen systems without seriously crippling them of key gameplay features. (A bit like some games are simply not ported to the Switch because it would demand too many sacrifices and it would denaturalize said games.) Justin was specifically talking about racing games and God of War, not every PS5 games. And I'd go as far as saying it only applies to sim racing games, because you could absolutely do crazy racing games that would benefit from the fast loading times of SSDs.
@stuartleckie
@stuartleckie 3 жыл бұрын
@@ParadoxalDream that’s a great reply. Thank you for taking the time to do that. 👍🏻
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu 3 жыл бұрын
GOW is what action games are supposed to be like with cinematic finishing animations for pretty much every fight.
@Smoothalcoholic
@Smoothalcoholic 3 жыл бұрын
Dangerous and competent enemies, that’s what I loved about GOW on PS4
@muckymucks
@muckymucks 3 жыл бұрын
Cinematic finishing moves were done in the Batman Arkham games first.
@foxinaround1220
@foxinaround1220 3 жыл бұрын
@@muckymucks bruh first gow was in 2005 and it has finishing moves
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu 3 жыл бұрын
@@muckymucks With Batman the cinematic finish would usually always come only for the last man standing. Not for multiple. I think GOW does it usually for all opponents
@PhinneusPrune
@PhinneusPrune 3 жыл бұрын
Microsoft can walk away from the XBone at anytime yet still include the XBone owners in Series X exclusives by just allowing an XCloud app onto the console. XBox has an advantage with this
@ratpimples
@ratpimples 3 жыл бұрын
54:51 1080p snowboarding
@RichMcLaughlin
@RichMcLaughlin 3 жыл бұрын
Mark! Looking good buddy
@CameronMcKee
@CameronMcKee 3 жыл бұрын
Can we vote Mark to be on every IGN podcast every week for the remainder of his career?
@PhinneusPrune
@PhinneusPrune 3 жыл бұрын
Starfield will be featured heavily at Microsofts event. Only for the fact that it is featured in the E3 poster.
@kamalaharry9514
@kamalaharry9514 3 жыл бұрын
That UFO footage we've been seeing lately ? All Todd.
@choombroom8153
@choombroom8153 3 жыл бұрын
INTRO/OUTRO SONG??
@theroyalattire
@theroyalattire 3 жыл бұрын
Blazing Lasers
@choombroom8153
@choombroom8153 3 жыл бұрын
@@theroyalattire Thank you very much!
@PhinneusPrune
@PhinneusPrune 3 жыл бұрын
The leaked images they said were from 2016
@MR2Mk2
@MR2Mk2 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for twenty years time when the future Omega Cops are looking back on what they were saying twenty years prior. Hopefully Damon will still be running the show then as well.
@usedfuzzbox
@usedfuzzbox 3 жыл бұрын
God of War 2....take your time, we will wait :D
@bradcuster
@bradcuster 3 жыл бұрын
Patiently waiting for this video to process so I can start my weekend off watching the only gaming podcast out there. Thanks for all your hard work each week to give us an hour of pure fun and enjoyment! It means a lot to your viewers. 😀 So, with the restrictions lifting and the world slowly returning to normal will you all eventually be in s studio again?
@IGNGames
@IGNGames 3 жыл бұрын
Eventually, yes, but not sure when.
@bradcuster
@bradcuster 3 жыл бұрын
@@IGNGames I’m conflicted. I’ll be glad to see you all together because it means we made it through this, but I’ll miss the cat cameos.
@icymoe1024
@icymoe1024 3 жыл бұрын
Wow... Thrill Kill! That's a SUPER throwback! Shout out to the bootlegs!
@SirJabb0k
@SirJabb0k 3 жыл бұрын
In my mind, having these specific few games now come to PS4 in addition to PS5 could be a logical solution to a few different problems caused by the pandemic/limits. 1. Fewer PS5's than they would have otherwise liked and so lower revenue from exclusives as well as unhappy PS4 gamers 2. Some parts of development are probably delayed significantly longer than others. Perhaps they will/already have parts of dev teams complete what work they can. Sure you can have them help with other parts of development but that just creates a domino effect of more people reaching the limit of what they have and can do. If there's nothing else the company has for them to work on, are they just laid off? This could very well not be the case but maybe having a team of otherwise out of work devs make a PS4 version can satisfy Sony, the dev company, the individual devs, and last-gen gamers.
@hypejuice1321
@hypejuice1321 3 жыл бұрын
the PS5 SSD allows for much faster data streaming in regards to the IO output, which can lead to more innovative game design and mechanics (when in the hands of talented teams)
@ironopinion101
@ironopinion101 3 жыл бұрын
Guys…. Graphics and Resolution are two separate things.
@ROYYYBERT
@ROYYYBERT 3 жыл бұрын
Sam got his rbf on this ep.
@Christopher-md7tf
@Christopher-md7tf 3 жыл бұрын
Nintendo has only ever released two cross-generational Zelda titles (Twilight Princess and BotW), wtf is this guy talking about
@mO-gy8ee
@mO-gy8ee 3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone even buy it on last gen 😆 WOW 11% of botw sales where on the Wii u ? 😵
@zengamer21
@zengamer21 3 жыл бұрын
I'm of two minds on these games being cross platform with PS4. For people who can't get a PS5, it's great. But now we're not going to get a true PS5 God of War game until whatever game comes out after Ragnarok. So, we'll finally get a real next-gen God of War in like 6 years and probably play it on PS5 Pro. So, I understand but I'm disappointed.
@Smoothalcoholic
@Smoothalcoholic 3 жыл бұрын
They need profit so they can keep making GOW, games are getting bigger
@buggy946
@buggy946 3 жыл бұрын
Nintendo is working hard on Metroid for the Platform, its the game I’m most excited to see and play.
@jermelpurse3018
@jermelpurse3018 3 жыл бұрын
Yes let’s be clear these games most of which being design now I’ll be up for last generation hardware. They are being upgraded to function better on next generation hardware that’s just a fact. Now does that mean those games are held back to some degree yes it does. However we already knows that with new technology comes to learning curve it usually takes 2 to 3 years before developers get their heads wrapped around the new technology and can work with it reasonably well guess what it takes 2 to 3 years before a developer stops going cross generational as well. Ratchet and clank it’s self doesn’t push far into the realm of possibilities with the new system. They take advantage of fast loading with the hard drive but to be honest that’s simple to do that’s not a complicated measure every game should do that on the new system even if you don’t force it to do so it still happens. Now the advanced lighting and re-tracing those are nice new things but again they are just scratching the surface with that barely pushing beyond what last generation technology could do. There are things that are possible with this generation technology that we haven’t even thought about yet and I don’t say that to be reaching for the stars I mean we literally know of potential possibilities that no one‘s ever attempted on a video game system before a PC yes but we’ve never seen them on a video game system. We can do those things now they will do those things now but it will take time.
@Doc141
@Doc141 3 жыл бұрын
Part of why the Super Switch is trending is people making fun of the rumor and lampooning it.
@syedmahmoodmustafa4082
@syedmahmoodmustafa4082 3 жыл бұрын
Sony lied! 3 guys except the host are capping hard for Sony. Stop defending! U don't just make a Ps5 game into ps4. You decide from production. Game devs said ps5 ssd gonna change the way games are made. Its not just load screens and pixel counting u fools!
@PhinneusPrune
@PhinneusPrune 3 жыл бұрын
The shadiest thing about GOW Ragnarok being delayed is not that there was no chance it was being released in 2021 when they said it would. It is the fact announced it saying, "Coming 2021" knowing damn well it wouldn't just so they can sell the PS5. They used lies to move consoles and that is wrong.
@guip1408
@guip1408 3 жыл бұрын
If you compare the same window of time, the PS4 had even fewer units in the wild compared to the PS5 now, the difference is how successful the PS4 is compared to what the PS3 was then. Plus, the difference between generations is getting smaller.
@mO-gy8ee
@mO-gy8ee 3 жыл бұрын
Between generation is getting smaller ? PS1 Sept 9 , 1995 , PS2 Oct 26 , 2000 , PS3 Nov 17 2006 , PS4 Nov 15 , 2013 , PS5 Nov 12 , 2020
@guip1408
@guip1408 3 жыл бұрын
@@mO-gy8ee the technical differences, or graphic upgrades
@AVERAGECONSOLEGAMER
@AVERAGECONSOLEGAMER 3 жыл бұрын
i miss tina :(
@holyone2668
@holyone2668 3 жыл бұрын
You look like multiverse versions of each other
@siege86
@siege86 3 жыл бұрын
Yo, Need For Speed 3: Hot Pursuit is one of the greatest racing games ever. So underrated. High stakes is right behind it. Gran Turismo 2 is the greatest, however.
@PhinneusPrune
@PhinneusPrune 3 жыл бұрын
But Forza Horizon 4 is something more and gets a category in of itself that sets it apart from those generic racers Am I right?
@siege86
@siege86 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhinneusPrune what makes you say that??
@PhinneusPrune
@PhinneusPrune 3 жыл бұрын
@@siege86 Because Forza Horizon 4 is the greatest racing game ever. And you didn't even mention it
@timsmyth7942
@timsmyth7942 3 жыл бұрын
justin finally finished yakuza on his xbox!
@wabduhflypsprod4785
@wabduhflypsprod4785 3 жыл бұрын
How could he when it is proven he rarely ever logs in to his Xbox..
@timsmyth7942
@timsmyth7942 3 жыл бұрын
@@wabduhflypsprod4785 bro he plays it daily, he barely was able to put the controller down to record this! why would ign employees lie?
@wabduhflypsprod4785
@wabduhflypsprod4785 3 жыл бұрын
@@timsmyth7942 Why would IGN-employees lie, hahaha gtfo here with that nonsense 🤣 As I said it has been proven last time he made a Twatter-hot take about Xbox contra PS5. You can do your research if you like, frankly I dont care.
@timsmyth7942
@timsmyth7942 3 жыл бұрын
@@wabduhflypsprod4785 bro if you cant detect the joke idk what to tell you 💀
@wabduhflypsprod4785
@wabduhflypsprod4785 3 жыл бұрын
@@timsmyth7942 Dude my bad, didnt recognize the joke/sarcasm at all 🤣😉 But I have to give you your well deserved probs now! 👍 Guess I'm just getting used to everybody here being butthurt all the time..
@mO-gy8ee
@mO-gy8ee 3 жыл бұрын
I would totally be fine if the Ps5 just held out and come out in 2022 instead of 2020
@PhinneusPrune
@PhinneusPrune 3 жыл бұрын
My problem with the game Gollum is ... he is just not a likable character. If you don't like or can't relate with the character you are playing. Then it will be tough to get into the game.
@JamalDolleyGames
@JamalDolleyGames 3 жыл бұрын
Look at the huge difference between GTA San Andreas (PS2/XB) and GTA 4(PS3/360). The overall game design and world simulations will suffer without a doubt in cross gen games!
@spillrune
@spillrune 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with the GOW:R date is that is was probably never targeted for 2021. You say «take your time», I say «be transparent».
@dageekynerd2898
@dageekynerd2898 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't PS5 outselling PS4?
@pixelbitg9386
@pixelbitg9386 3 жыл бұрын
Yes by a wide margin. So the excuse they are trying to make makes no sense.
@WEK-kh8gd
@WEK-kh8gd 3 жыл бұрын
WHERE THE F**K IS TINA! Mark is awesome but I miss Tina.
@chrispap1103
@chrispap1103 3 жыл бұрын
Where is Tina? Is she OK?
@Facerip
@Facerip 3 жыл бұрын
Why would they sell a console-selling game on a fucking 8 year old console lol
@savvgorr3578
@savvgorr3578 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if guys noticed the horizon zero dawn has a big inventory problem. So, I hope Devs Guerilla is aware about it.
@nvc.
@nvc. 3 жыл бұрын
Sony cant produce playstation5 consoles.. what do you think Sony should do?? Its sucks.. but what can we do?
@user-zh9um7ch1n
@user-zh9um7ch1n 3 жыл бұрын
Scoop!
@beadle111gaming
@beadle111gaming 3 жыл бұрын
Why did Justin seem so reluctant to talk about Virtua cop? Is he blatantly showing his political biase in regards to current events? of course he is, but its just a game, not real life. Normal people dont play games then believe that is how we should be in the real world. They are more than happy to laugh in regards to gaming controversies of the past, mortal kombat, GTA etc
@wabduhflypsprod4785
@wabduhflypsprod4785 3 жыл бұрын
All cops are bastards to these buffoons, right up until they are caught up in a bad/dangerous situation. Then they will call the police in an instant, but they will probably be to late to do anything because of them being defunded. Wonder if he will still shriek "Defund the police" when he is being held at gunpoint by a home intruder...
@jackkoski9505
@jackkoski9505 3 жыл бұрын
I have many issues with cops, but this take is really scary. It just shows they can't think for themselves. Drawing a line in the sand, when it comes to the murder you commit in virtual cop, or Last of Us, or Hitman, doesn't make any sense. I hate to use this term....but it's what they call "virtue signaling." It's "I know the consensus on my chosen side is that cops are bad right now, so I'm going to play it safe and disavow them at every opportunity." Dude, I've had more negative than positive run ins with police, but get a damn grip. It's a videogame.
@wabduhflypsprod4785
@wabduhflypsprod4785 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackkoski9505 Cant spell virtue signalling without ign..
@beadle111gaming
@beadle111gaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael_Ian_Blackface fair comment
@justindavis9903
@justindavis9903 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael_Ian_Blackface pretty much!
@nvc.
@nvc. 3 жыл бұрын
I Iove Blazing Lazers so much!
@gjabo178
@gjabo178 3 жыл бұрын
Where is Tina? Miss her
@kamalaharry9514
@kamalaharry9514 3 жыл бұрын
Xbox it is then !
@Brunosmith85
@Brunosmith85 3 жыл бұрын
If Sony keeps releasing games cross gen on ps4 there will be no incentive to buy a ps5 other than the visuals.
@mappybc6097
@mappybc6097 3 жыл бұрын
Once you say goodbye to minute long load screens and say hello to 60fps and the Dualsense it's hard to go back to playing on PS4 again. So don't worry, there are advantages besides visuals to current gen consoles.
@thunderwood
@thunderwood 3 жыл бұрын
It's disappointing to think that it'll be several years into the PS5's life cycle before we get games built natively for the console from Sony.
@jamesmiley6146
@jamesmiley6146 3 жыл бұрын
We literally have one coming this month
@thewirv
@thewirv 3 жыл бұрын
is Daemon standing under the shower? lol, his sound
@rbyerly
@rbyerly 3 жыл бұрын
I miss Tina
@someguywithaps5
@someguywithaps5 3 жыл бұрын
I have a PS4, but I would buy a Ps5 when this drops.
@joshnevin6269
@joshnevin6269 3 жыл бұрын
I have a ps5 and would.not buy a ps4 😆
@someguywithaps5
@someguywithaps5 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshnevin6269 why would you downgrade? Doesn't make any sense 🤔
@joshnevin6269
@joshnevin6269 3 жыл бұрын
@@someguywithaps5 u clearly didnt get the joke.lol
@baundiesel
@baundiesel 3 жыл бұрын
Sony couldn't have known the PS5 would be so hard to get, especially with COVID, when they decided to make GoW cross-gen. Thinking the current shortage changed cross-gen decisions is silly.
@JS121
@JS121 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think its a 100% the reason why God of War or Horizon are going to hit the PS4 but I don't doubt that when they realized that they were not going to have this mass supply of PS5s for the public also coincided with Sony backtracking from their "We believe in generations" comments
@baundiesel
@baundiesel 3 жыл бұрын
@@JS121 the answer is simple. It's money. You don't leave 100+ million potential customers who will pay $70 to play your new game. Sony has no reason to go all in on next-gen yet no matter how much players want them to. It's all about that 💰.
@Christopher-md7tf
@Christopher-md7tf 3 жыл бұрын
For real. Decisions like this have to be made very early in development and there was never any chance in hell that the PS5's install base would be even comparable to the PS4's at this point in time, semiconductor shortage or not. Also, Cory Barlog tweeted that it was *his* call to make the game cross-generational.
@baundiesel
@baundiesel 3 жыл бұрын
@JMB it's delayed because the bulk of development has been done during COVID. The plan was absolutely to be cross-gen from the start... for financial reasons I don't blame them.
@sugarj3sus
@sugarj3sus 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't even show a CG trailer when it was announced. Literally all we got was a title. Even without covid, God of War Ragnarok was never coming out this year. Did anyone believe it was coming in 2021?
@johnnydi2203
@johnnydi2203 3 жыл бұрын
The question is: Did Sony really believe it would release in 2021?
@sugarj3sus
@sugarj3sus 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnydi2203 Definitely not. They just wanted us to believe that the PS5's first year was stacked with games. Horizon 2 might not make it this year either considering that awesome trailer we just got didn't have a date.
@johnnydi2203
@johnnydi2203 3 жыл бұрын
@@sugarj3sus Agreed.
@scottkoppinger2595
@scottkoppinger2595 3 жыл бұрын
Really JUSTIN? The only difference between PS4 and PS5 visual is the resolution? Will PS4 games be running Unreal Engine 5 games or other games with that fidelity anytime soon? ...No...They can push more poly's into characters and backgrounds, with more detail now...Justin, SMH
@kamalaharry9514
@kamalaharry9514 3 жыл бұрын
1:40 OOOOPS KILLED THE SONY NARRATIVE. EVERYONE GOT QUIET.
@megarobd9761
@megarobd9761 3 жыл бұрын
God of war will still push ps5 sales cause all of us want to play this game with the best hardware possible.
@Trakker1985
@Trakker1985 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be more excited about God of War 2 if I liked GOW1 in any way at all. I got about 6 hours in and was having no fun whatsoever. When I'm Kratos I wanna feel like a badass all the time, not get schooled by scrub enemies because my equipment level is too low =T
@judah_macabe
@judah_macabe 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously need to work on not breathing so loudly into the mic's...its less the exhales and more the inhaling, hearing the shwooop of air is pretty jarring as its louder than somes voices.
@andrewschempf
@andrewschempf 3 жыл бұрын
First
@chriscoleman7260
@chriscoleman7260 3 жыл бұрын
Sony and Jim ryan are just being shortsighted and greedy thinking of upfront money instead of long term profits. Ps5 only games will be better in the long run by delivering a better experience than ps4 can provide and keep customers hype with good reason to upgrade. Its sucks now that people cant get a hold of ps5 but time moves forward and eventually they will. Ps5 games will be available for people no matter when they are able to buy ps5 whether its today or 3 years from now. Instead now we get a marginal upgrade in frame rates and resolution instead of next gen game design and innovation in physics, a.i, destruction, etc. Lying Jim Ryan cares more about increasing his executive bonus than than delivering superior games and products to the people that support PlayStation with there hard earned money.
@thisscreensucks
@thisscreensucks 3 жыл бұрын
People who got it on ps4 will probably still buy a ps5 later. There's no reason not to do thus.
@thisscreensucks
@thisscreensucks 3 жыл бұрын
You seem to assume this is them choosing to make it less good? It's an assumption that isn't true. Fuxk gamer kids are weird. "I bought a ps5, so I want to make sure people who didn't, csnt play this game" This won't change your experience. Stop being selfish.
@boardvision11
@boardvision11 3 жыл бұрын
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