you know the hero difficulty is very high when grubby's demo is 30++ minutes

40 minute demo, exactly what I expected for the Invoker video 😂

"You're slowed by 160% why are you not moving backwards" has the same energy as "Healing the enemy when dealing negative damage"

Hey Grubby, I have literally played only Invoker throughout my Dota journey and I have to say - for a first timer you did super super well. There are just too many nuances with this hero, but once you get a hang of it, which will come probably after 100 of games, you will realize the potential of this hero is insane. You can play it anyway you like. You have all my praise for this game. 🎉🎉

This could seriously be the most impressive first game invoker of all time -- certainly the best first invoker game Ive ever seen -- particularly given Grubby has been playing DOTA for all of a couple weeks period. Honestly its a bit mind blowing considering. I mean, he was literally getting better by the minute as the game went on. Crazy stuff. If Grubby got serious about getting better and got someone to actually coach him full time, he legit could be a top tier player in just a couple months, I have no doubt. Edit: the funniest part is the skywrath flaming him doesnt even believe its his first ever game of invoker.

Invoker is definitely one of the hardest heroes in Dota 2. At least characters like Meepo you just need good micro with multiple units, something that a pro RTS player will find easy.

you know it's a good Grubby vid if the video last more than hour.

One of the coolest designed heroes in a MOBA. The only other that I can think of that compares is Cho'Gall from HOTS which require 2 players to pilot IIRC. But dear Lord you could not pay me to win with this hero

"Energy. Power. My people are addicted to it!"

Dota is the true moba of warcraft. I played Data as a WC3 mod map and it always felt like and still feels like I'm playing with the warcraft 3 feeling of the heroes. Also well done on first game of invoker he's very hard to use.

Lmao, just noticed that Invoker actually calls Chaos Meteor carnosphere (meatball)

It's been 35 mins, it's still demo, and I've loved every second of it. This is so fun to watch (and funny)

38 minutes of demo mode, nice!

Grubby is the best thing thhat happened to dota communitty in a long time. I always aprecciated the WC3 videos; and his content made me come back to dotta withh a fresh mind. Ty, friend.

I have a thousand games on Invoker (which isn't a lot), and I think its a highly impressive game for a first time. Its easy to get pressured using a hero that has so many buttons to push, and with teammates wanting you to use them like all at the same time, in an instant. There is no easy way to learn this hero. You just play, and play, and play it, till things just starts to feel natural.

Hello! Your occasional Chatter! Hope Grubby reads this if he ever plans to spend a day learning invoker. Invoker has 4 levels of learning. Basic Invoker involves memorizing spells (and their orbs) and the spell combos. Thats were Grubby at this game. Still havent memorized other combos like tornado>meteor>deafening>sunstrike/snap, etc. Intermediary Invoker involves mastering these combos and positioning well in teamfights. Alot of his skills are not spammable and requires abit of skillshot/positioning. Advanced Invoker involves cooldown awareness and item choices. Invoker is one of the most flexible heroes, especially in late game. His weakness ofc is getting to late game. He can go right click build with alacrity/snap/forged build. CC aoe monster w/ octarine refresher. Gank build. Split push. Etc. And then there is the ultimate invoker. I havent seen these types of invoker in a long time but some people attempt it. These players min max everything on its skills. Choosing the right order of orb (orb awareness) so that only one press of orb then invoke is the norm rotation. All of its items and on the backpack are items that have actives. Most of these players do the split push type build since doing these things in teamfights is incredibly taxing.

I stopped playing Dota around 3 years ago. Watching your videos made me want to play again. Love the videos. Hope you have a long and fun time with Dota!

Very disappointed in the chat but I assume a lot of them are new viewers. Fantastic job Grubby. Remembering every invoker spell in your first game is already a challenge, doing so in the middle of an A-Z challenge is even harder. People also forget the spell rotation/conveyor belt/cooldown juggling.

It's funny that they're mad because looking at how he plays it looks good. They didn't know it's his first time. I can see the panic he's in during the clash.

Midas actually is not about farming gold faster, but farming experience faster, for heroes like invoker level is the most important thing. Read descriptions of items to refresh your memories and getting new ideas. Good luck with your journey!

This is perhaps the best first-time beginner Invoker gameplay I've seen. Good job!

One of the standard ways to set up deafening blast is to have meteor on d and tornado on f, cast tornado, invoke deafening blast, cast meteor when the enemy is coming down from tornado, then cast deafening blast to push the enemies along the meteor's path as it comes down.

"Enemies cant predict my next move if i cant either" I died here xDDDDDDDDDDDD

It's so good to see how fast you progress ! Keep the good work !

Yo I hope you didn't take all of Skywrath's flaming in this game to heart; sure early on you missed a couple of spots for good spell use as you were getting used to the hero, but for the majority of the fights (and especially later on) you were really pumping out spells and using them pretty dang well. Skywrath was tilted as hell and was just vomitting words in to the chat which were totally wrong, and then straight up said you were lying when you told him it was your first game because his ego couldn't take the idea that you might actually be doing pretty fucking well given your experience. Either way, good job Grubby, a brilliant first showing for one of the most mechanically and mentally taxing heroes in DotA! Loving watching you learn everything in your intelligent and methodical manner :)

Honestly I think anyone who isn't confident on invo is better off going to offlane as pos 4 and going for a quas wex build as a situational pick against mana reliant heroes like bristle or dusa. It's a great way to learn without the high pressure of being in middle.

Watching Grubby playing invoker in the tutorial was an absolute delight! ❤ It took me back to 2014 when i first started trying invoker, (in which there was no training demo screen) and we had to figure out everything manually. 😂 Excellent reply man, its such a treat to watch you play this game. PS cold snap should be your go-to spell in the beginning, its a constant damage/stun. Hard to top that. Also tornado is a great initiator, must use more often. 👍

I hope for more Invoker streams Grubby. This hero seems nice. ^^

I am very satisfied with the thumbnail. Thank you! xD

Looking forward to you playing your favorites after your A-Z route. I hope Invoker makes the list of favorites though! Somehow you shine when you have more to do as evidenced by the minion, illusion based heroes so far.

ive been waiting for these invo gameplay

You got so good already its insane. Keep it up ^^

Old salt here, for your first game of Invoker this was great. You're still working on figuring out how/when to start a fight and when to stay with your team vs farming.

Hi Grubby, Almost-exclusive-Invoker-player here, you played astonishingly well for 1st time! Don't listen to griefers like that Skywrath, u did very good this game! A couple of tips: 1) If you anticipate a fight coming, pre-invoke the spells you want to use (so that you need no memorizing during fight). Also, you can additionally prepare the orbs for your third spell in advance - e.g. you pre-invoke Tornado and Meteor, and then press Q-W-E , which are needed for the following Deafening Blast ->> now all you need to do is press D and F for Tornado and Meteor, then press R to invoke the Deaf. Blast, then one more D for the blast - voila, you just fired one of the best combo spells in the game easily :-) 2) Don't throw sunstrike on creeps, its rarely worth the mana and you need to hit exactly ONE (otherwise the damage is distributed and kills nothing). Better keep an eye out on other lanes, and if you see a low HP hero or one of your teammates stuns - then throw in the sunstrike :) 3) To maximize the XP you get from Midas - whenever the cooldown is ready summon forge spirits and leave them in the lane to make last hits. You yourself go quickly to one of the large creep camps and use the Midas on the BIGGEST creep, then kill the rest and go back to laning. This requires some multitasking but I am 100% sure with your WC3 skills it will be easy for you to pull off. GL and HF! I really hope you will become a fellow Invoker fan soon!! :)

Grubby, you are truly an amazing player and preparer and e-sportsman. First Invoker game looking like this? Madness!

I think the best way to learn this hero is select 3 spells and learn to rotate them. Once perfected select another 3 or maybe add 1 additional spell in the rotation.

You can see Grubby repeating and laughing at invokers quotes, and I got so many flashbacks from playing WC3 and it had such a good hero quotes so u just had to repeat them. Anyway seeing Grubby play dota is just so cool, I used to play WC3 as well and seeing some else do the WC3 -> Dota 2 transfer brings me memories

Amazing performance for a first timer Invoker. Keep doing well buddy!

Skywrath players malding is ALWAYS a pleasure to watch. Imo you played decent for first invo game. I went 2 8 3 my first invo

"Get ready your toothbrush"😂

10:58 i spit out my drink lol thanks for the giggle

Finally! this big moment arrives!

Yes yes yes, was waiting for this 🎉🎉🎉

i love the really long demo gamee its so interesting to watch

Man this game was insane, very well played congrats

Thats really good, was screaming at him to deny his forge spirits though

just imagine the first invoker game of the guy who called grubby autistic 🤣 Grubby I can't wait to see your invoker a few months in. You are a fucking beast dude.

Invoker is fun concept and could be game in itself. Reminds me of this one old RPG where you had to actually draw a sign using mouse to cast a spell. It was cringe at start, but once you get to really high speeds it's both very satisfying and fun to watch.

man those sunstrike reactions ahahahaa im dead

Grubby. You are amazing man. My first invo match was ridiculous. You did a good job

I wished at the start of the game that I could tell him to meteor waves off cooldown. And then he actually figured that out by himself later in the same game. Impressed as hell, he played as well as I probably did on my 40th game on invoker.

Bro, first time invoker. This was insane gameplay. I dont pick the hero after so many years, because i never can remember or even do it in high stress situations.

I'm only 12 minutes into the game, but man, this guy is good. Great instincts about the hero in your literary 1st game, Grubster. Mb you could main this hero after AtoZ

Big fan from WCIII days! I know it was the first game and all, so props for trying out such a hard hero. Just a reminder though, invoker has a lot of CC so its really helpful in team fights to use cold snap, tornado and deafening strike. Which can also lead into a nice meatball finisher.

For the first game, you were phenomenal! I common theme in your fights here: you have so many options of what to cast, that's just overwhelming. So you stand next to the fight and do nothing. Focus on on some key teamfight spells (tornado, meatball, deafening blast) and just spam those 3 into the fight. At least you deal damage and practice those 3 at the same time. Your remaining stuff is awesome, you use coldsnap very well. Avoid using the meatball for farming since the CD is so long and a fight might be just around the corner. Keep it up, you rock, awesome content!

40min demo mode, this is the content I came in here for!

The fact that you read the spells and understand what they do makes you better than 50% of the dota players already.

Having the presence of mind to remember ghostwalk while ganked is very impressive this early. Very good job so far, this is certainly going the correct way

im KEKL whenever the sky types something

Invoker is my fav hero. When I have had started playing as Invoker I had the spellbook open all the time and using only few spells but as time went on I expanded my combo arsenal and even got used to refresher

Grubby the invoker build is usually a combination of two elements whether its QW (cold snap + emp), WE (tornado + meteor), or QE (ice wall + spirit) in the early game before picking the last element and combine every spells in midgame. Pick your talent according to your early combination. Item wise, the must have imo is midas to blink dagger (for positioning ur spell), aghs, and whatever follows depending on the game (aether lens to octarine, refresher, aeon disk, linken, bkb, hex schyte are common late game item for invoker). This hero is very versatile in mid while also useful as pos 4 roaming despite the lack of aoe stun. Cheers for the content xD

One fun thing about invoker in warcraft3 was that whenever someone picked him, the game would go "loading invoker resources. This may take a while..." and freeze for a brief moment.

Your tempo + lvl of improvement at doto is really impressing sir! wp

You sir, earned my sub. I wanted to show a friend of mine a very difficult part of Dota, so i threw him your video. I have 2k+ games with Carl and i watched part of this myself and you are absolutely doing great. Remember this is only day 1 of piano lessons, you have just learned what pentagram is, haha. Cheers.

the amount of backseat from chat in this game lol

KEEP GOING GRUBBY, UR DOING WELL!!!

I never thought I could be only left saying "Just save your sunstrike for teamfights or escaping heroes" to a person who has just played Invoker for the first time. Also I enjoyed how Invoker challenged you as seeing you highly concentrated like some tough w3 games did was delightful. If you wish to study Invoker more I recommend watching Grimorum he is a dedicated Invoker player and a good watch if you wish to see full capacity of Invoker.

since invoker is my main hero i enjoyed this video more than i had to and dude your first game on invoker was too good i remember myself starting and even my 10th game wasnt good as this one

i remember when he came out in DotA Frozen Throne i had a paper near keyboard with spell combos written

Tornado ( or euls) + sun strike + Meteor + D. Blast. When you get the timing down this is a great combo, you can follow it up with Ice Wall or Cold Snap + Forge Spirit ( or open with these and then combo the slow guy)

I'm a simple man I see invoker I auto click .

man your last hitting is so freaking good haha

Wow, that was amazing!

another of my favorite heroes love it

Damn Grubby! Im extremely impressed! I have a feeling that you hire someone to make these videos and like our comments but I hope it reaches you how impressive that first game of invoker was. I know you dont get discouraged easily and I hope you keep that same mentality. Nice one!

That Sun strike on all other heroes is just like in the game Smite with Nu Wa she has an ult that does a meteor on all heroes and is always abused as a way to kill off all heroes that are on low hp.

This video was very entertaining!! :D I personally find Arc Warden to be the most difficult hero to play and it's because you end up building all active items, the abilities are all low cooldown and clicking all the buttons on the right targets with 2 diffirent units is too much for me. I find meepo to be more difficult than invoker but less than arc warden, casting spells with meepo is easier and the meepo clones don't have items like scythe of vyse and bloodthorn, you only need to worry about casting that stuff with the main hero. Coming from an RTS background and being used to control groups, I think it will be even easier for you to play than it was for me. I find storm spirit to be one of the ones which is easy to get into but it is hard to master. The crux being that he can abuse that units have a turn rate and the fact that he cannot be hit during ball lightning to outplay opponents after level 6. So you react to an attack animation by ball lightning to the side, that resets the attack animation of the opponent, the ball lightning activates your overload, you hit and when they try to hit back you lightning again. I find that hard to do even though the concept is not complicated. Dodge hit, dodge hit, every roguelite ever...

Advice for a beginner Invoker player, you can just memorize a few spells to do a combo in fights (example: tornaldo + EMP / meteor + deafening blast) and use cold snap + forge spirit in laning phase. Then when you are comfortable enough with these, only you start to add other skills into the gameplay

Actually a good "demo" for invoker, there is also a custom game you can find in dota 2 arcade tab called "Invokation" which teaches you different spell combos and the levels they can be used etc. Really good for practice there are basic 2 spell combos all the way up to all 10 spells + refresher orb so the combos can get really crazy😄

The moment we all have been waiting for.

Idk if a new meta on invoker has come but. Quas invoker is the most practical, put all points in quas first while keeping exort and wex lvl1. When you can’t put points on quas anymore then dump it on wex and last priority is exort. Disable>Map Roam>Damage(item and mana timing perfect to end game). Your role here is to help your team and enable them to kill enemy team, next is establish fear on the map with speed from wex, last is with sufficient mana and points for cast speed you can now unleash your full damage and power with exort to close the game. Also maxing quas early on will give you lane sustain stuns and slows to defend yourself for survivability.

Incredible game play for first try. Couldnt ask for a better warm up game ;)

This hero is like studying for school

Glad to see Grubby is fast to realise his team's faceless voids will always trap him in a chrono instead of a combo wombo.

Sanest and happiest Invoker player right here

The clip where Miracle beats that invi jugger at TI7 is simply a must watch. Chat is right about that

Very good plays bro ! I would love to see you doing a stream with Miracle teaching you how to play as an Like him 😅😊 good luck further ❤

For first invoker game, amazing stuff. Hes my favorite hero, eventually it all comes naturally.

INSANE!! BLOODY INSANE!!! Good game

The combo I normally go is for EMP tornado having it ready and have meatball ready with the orbs but don't press invoke until you found you target. So it goes likes this EMP>TORNADO>MEATBALL>DEF BLAST>SUNSTRIKE>COLDSNAP>ALACRITY. But the first 4 are the important ones. Since 1 your remove the enemies mana which mean they can't really fight you if they have a low mana pull. Tornadon to make them stay in the EMP area before it detornates, meatball directly after with DEF blast. making them hit the meatball and stay longer in it thanks to DEF BLAST. Otherwise you can go with tornado, sunstrike. icewall, coldsnap, alacratiy and meatball.

The E. M. P skill is a wc3 montage for the unit wisp detonate reduces mana.

Best Invoker in the world here. You rocked! I hope this hero becomes your favourite.

nice. would be great to see you playing invo again. If you'll practice him sometimes)

this was the best first invoker play dude, my first invoker was terrible

I love that his viewers trick Grubby into thinking Bristleback is the third hardest hero

What an unlucky game to have these as team mates on ur first INVOKER GAME You did well Keep on fighting bro'

7:31 "Who's scar" lol

I think there used to be a Dota2 Custom game for Invoker Practice minigame. it was pretty fun

I haven't played invoker since 2008, this is giving me PTSD but in a fun way XD

is it just me or Grubby does fit into invoker drip ?