Half-Life 2: Retro PC Time Capsule vs PlayStation 3 vs OG Xbox - Need We Say More?

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Жыл бұрын

A game for the ages, the DF team return to Half-Life 2 to appraise the original PC version running on classic PC hardware and the 'impossible port' that is the OG Xbox rendition of the game. Rounding off the line-up, we have the much-maligned PlayStation 3 'Orange Box' version... is it really as bad as legend says?
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@tobreakintopieces
@tobreakintopieces Жыл бұрын
The port team was part of EA Bright Light. That team also did Hasbro Family Game Night, among other things. At the time, they were on the third floor of Onslow House in Guildford, with the Harry Potter team. Criterion were (still are?) on the second floor. Three of my housemates worked in Bright Light, I was downstairs in Criterion.
@j_c_93
@j_c_93 Жыл бұрын
Cool, did you work on Burnout?
@spvrda
@spvrda Жыл бұрын
@@j_c_93 Sure did if he worked at Criterion while Orange Box was being ported(2007)
@AIIEYESONME
@AIIEYESONME Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you worked at Google actually.
@tobreakintopieces
@tobreakintopieces Жыл бұрын
@@j_c_93 I did, on Burnout Paradise, and then Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit.
@RoboZombie777
@RoboZombie777 Жыл бұрын
Bright Light also worked on Burnout Dominator, the spinoff Burnout that came out between Revenge and Paradise which often gets overlooked, which is a shame cuz I think it had some neat ideas in there
@Wogle
@Wogle Жыл бұрын
This comparison of 3 different versions is really fun to see. Can we expect a Doom 3 one in the near future?
@Wogle
@Wogle Жыл бұрын
@@i3l4ckskillzz79 There's a DF Retro vid I think, but not a simultaneous playthrough. Basically curious to see a "live" side by side of the cuts to the Xbox version, and additional changes made to the BFG edition
@SeiyaDLuffy
@SeiyaDLuffy Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and with Resident Evil 4 too
@Wogle
@Wogle Жыл бұрын
@@notnotrom1 3: Original PC Version, the Xbox version, and the BFG Edition
@mbsfaridi
@mbsfaridi Жыл бұрын
@@SeiyaDLuffy Yeah, would love to see GC and PS2 comparisons.
@HeyKyle
@HeyKyle Жыл бұрын
They literally mention making a future doom 3 video in this video lol
@Waffle4569
@Waffle4569 Жыл бұрын
Half Life 2 actually has a lot of LODs, especially for meshes that are reused a lot, they were just very hard to notice. For example, the trash can has around 6 on PC. They were much more incremental than anyone would bother to do today, and the way they were stored on disk was really chaotic, parts of lowres LODs would be used to reassemble the high LODs as a form of compression. You literally can't just directly load the highest LOD, you have to reassemble it by working your way up the LOD chain.
@NickBaysingar
@NickBaysingar Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Valve also made it so that the vast majority of the models would automatically fall back to using a simplified LoD mesh when running the game in DX7. That's probably what we're seeing with the Xbox port. Like you said, the game actually made extensive use of LoDs, and I'm sure the majority of them were produced using automated methods to save on time, which is why they often look super clumsy and weird like what DF were seeing in this video.
@robertdosen646
@robertdosen646 7 ай бұрын
Is that why you can see everything "load" into it's high res model/texture?
@RizzyWow
@RizzyWow Жыл бұрын
My first experience of Half-Life 2 was on Xbox, I remember buying the Official Xbox Magazine as a kid which had a special on Half-Life 2 with an awesome cover (I still have it). Then a few years later I saw the game at Comet for like £2 and I asked my dad to buy it for me and he did. What an amazing experience, it made me love games in a different way. Years later I built a PC and replayed it. This game has a special place in my heart for sure.
@thatdognotthepuppy5809
@thatdognotthepuppy5809 Жыл бұрын
Ah, Comet... Simpler times. Remember Gamestation?
@Osk42
@Osk42 Жыл бұрын
Dude I love these retro time capsule episodes you guys do! It's amazing to see how far we've come and looking back. Some games still hold up, Half-Life 2 is one of them! More please!
@cjaay4359
@cjaay4359 Жыл бұрын
Yes I really love Retro PC time capsule videos, we need more videos and I've watched all of the time capsule videos again and again
@ncorcoran29
@ncorcoran29 Жыл бұрын
Would hold up if they didn't abandon the story!!!
@telefonbarmann4514
@telefonbarmann4514 Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite DF format, with DF Direct in a close second. I think the free flow nature makes it so enjoyable.
@offspringfan89
@offspringfan89 Жыл бұрын
@@telefonbarmann4514 My top three Digital Foundry formats: 1. DF Retro 2. Time Capsule 3. DF Direct
@dudemanismadcool
@dudemanismadcool Жыл бұрын
@@telefonbarmann4514 The best content. These DF retro time capsules are like crack for the nostalgia receptors and the name is fitting. Its like a time capsule for the feels and excitement of the day when 3D gaming was still in its relative infancy.
@Silverturky
@Silverturky Жыл бұрын
honestly the water section of the game is one of my favorite parts it was so relaxing to be traversing over all that water collecting items etc. the sunset was so nice to look at even when you start going through the tunnels and have to solve that lil puzzle to get the items out of the basket. so good.. alright well... I guess I'm playing the game over tonight
@jqwright28
@jqwright28 Жыл бұрын
I know people love breakdowns and testing of new games' performances but this kind of thing is your all's best content. Great video!
@scoutbr00
@scoutbr00 Жыл бұрын
Its a shame you guys didn't touch upon the audio differences between game versions. The Xbox version ironically has the best audio despite lowest sampling due to its built in hardware audio processing. Dr. Breen's speeches in the trainstation and square sound absolutely amazing and really give you a felling of being in a huge room, with the audio echoing. The apartment sections also have phenomenal audio, as loud noises can be heard from flowing through the small hallways. I really wished someone would find a way to force or emulate these audio effects onto the PC version. The PS3 version also has some distorted voice lines (take a listen to Gman's initial speech lmao)
@itsd0nk
@itsd0nk Жыл бұрын
The OG Xbox had the fucking *best* discrete audio processor built into it. Halo games in glorious 5.1 all with real time audio plugin effects on every channel. Even having a super expensive sound card in your PC didn’t get you this in most PC games back then... and I had a crazy expensive sound card in my PC in those days for music editing and gaming.
@kennymccormick8295
@kennymccormick8295 11 ай бұрын
A felling? FELLING? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Lloyd_Meadhbh
@Lloyd_Meadhbh Жыл бұрын
My first sustained experience of HL2 was the XBox version, and, while I recognised it wasn't running as smoothly as it did on my friends' PCs, I was really stoked to be able to play it at all.
@susu5331
@susu5331 Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely my favorite Digital Foundry video thats > 30 min in length, the discussions and the game are both very enjoyable. You three should make more content like this!
@wallcat3199
@wallcat3199 Жыл бұрын
It looks like their process of lowering the polygon count is similar to the "decimate" tool in Blender. You essentially move a slider and it starts to combine vertices together.
@flioink
@flioink Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's probably a feature in the engine. Unreal Engine has the same thing where it auto-generates LODs for you and the results aren't always pretty.
@ilbroducciore
@ilbroducciore Жыл бұрын
I wonder if models for things like cylindrical objects are stored as they minimal mathematical representations (radius + height in the cylinder’s case), and then generating their actual polygonal models is a post-process out of that data? You can then choose polygonal density dynamically.
@TheScarletKing
@TheScarletKing Жыл бұрын
Decimate is better suited to high-poly meshes. Even Simplygon's system - which Unreal utilizes - is terrible at generating coherent super low-poly LODs, and has only been heavily leaned on in the last couple years. LODs were authored manually for the longest time.
@TheScarletKing
@TheScarletKing Жыл бұрын
@@ilbroducciore Not possible for the vast majority of games as the faces of the object still need to be "unwrapped" to map textures onto them, and they're a poor fit for real-time work, though in a sense this is done in CAD. Collision primitives however utilize spheres, capsules, and boxes which are incomparably more efficient to custom mesh colliders as it just involves a raycasting against a mathematical representation of the primitive collider instead of each triangle on the custom collider.
@ilbroducciore
@ilbroducciore Жыл бұрын
@@TheScarletKing sorry, to clarify, I wasn’t suggesting that this was done in-engine, rather by 3D modeling sw before model export. So no real-time requirement here. But I can see how texture mapping can be a complicating factor here. (FWIW: I’m a SWE with almost no graphics background)
@quagthias
@quagthias Жыл бұрын
I was a PS2 and GCN owner when I saw the 2003 E3 demo for Half-Life 2. It blew my mind so much that I bought an Xbox just to play it (my family did not have a PC other than an old iMac) Little did I know I'd be playing it at like 15 FPS but I still loved it.
@youtubeshadowbannedmylasta2629
@youtubeshadowbannedmylasta2629 Жыл бұрын
the fact they managed to put this on the og xbox is pretty crazy when you consider hl2 was pretty impressive when it came out.
@NR-iw4sp
@NR-iw4sp Жыл бұрын
And in the few following years, too (The Orange Box improved visuals and Episodes 1-2)!
@kamikazemelon787
@kamikazemelon787 Жыл бұрын
yeah i’ve seen the xbox port before but the direct comparison here is fun to see - not only was HL2 impressive when it came out, it was also a PC melter! That Xbox port really is incredible that it even works at all
@evil_chuck
@evil_chuck 5 ай бұрын
It wasn't "pretty" impressive... It was absolutely impressive, since until the release of Crysis (3 years later) no other game was released that broke graphical and technological limits like Half Life 2 did. Not on PC, much less on consoles.
@R3AL-AIM
@R3AL-AIM Жыл бұрын
My first time playing this was actually on the original Xbox. It was amazing to me back then. I later watched my friend's dad play it on PC and after Garry's Mod came out, I had to get one and join Steam myself! I'm excited to watch this.
@j_c_93
@j_c_93 Жыл бұрын
I came out of this seriously impressed with the Xbox version. I thought it looked damn good for what it is. If I played this back in the day, I would have thought it was great compared to other Xbox titles.
@AvithOrtega
@AvithOrtega Жыл бұрын
Yep, this is how I first met Half Life 2 and I remember playing it many many times, such a great game.
@XWXS2
@XWXS2 Жыл бұрын
Still have my original Xbox still have my copy of hl2 there was nothing like it at the time for consoles. Even played it again just for the nostalgia the feeling of that og Xbox man there was something special about that console.
@Palendrome
@Palendrome Жыл бұрын
I remember going into HL2 on xbox knowing nothing about Half-Life.... one of the top game experiences ever. It felt so immersive. I spent hours in the apartments stacking up all the props from the intro level to block civil protection from killing the civilians. Everything about it felt so immersive, it blew me away.
@R3AL-AIM
@R3AL-AIM Жыл бұрын
@@Palendrome pretty much the same :) I have this port to thank for introducing me to Valve and the Source engine. Now I've been on PC pretty much full time for the better part of 10 years or so lol I honestly don't remember it's been so long
@Treebsquire
@Treebsquire Жыл бұрын
Half Life 2 recently had a complete VR conversion mod and it's absolutely awesome! PLays like a native VR game and it even has full steam worskhop support for mods.
@CCaribou
@CCaribou Жыл бұрын
Yep it's absolutely fantastic. Probably one of the definitive VR experiences in my humble opinion.
@lucodeath
@lucodeath Жыл бұрын
HL 1 had a vr mod which is a bit of a mess so I was pleasantly surprised by HL2 vr.
@CricetoFunni
@CricetoFunni Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I don't have motion sickness for the airboat section
@mariokart8054
@mariokart8054 Жыл бұрын
@@lucodeath Really! I had trouble with climbing ladders and I didn't like the new gun models, but i thought half life VR was solid everywhere else, especially on my quest.
@steel5897
@steel5897 Жыл бұрын
It's great, but the long boat sections, which were mildly annoying in flatscreen, are potentially vomit inducing nonsense in VR.
@PikaStu666
@PikaStu666 Жыл бұрын
You've inspired me to fire up Orange Box on my Series X. Such a timeless, classic game. I love the introduction to the city, the bleak Eastern European design. I also love the two vehicle sections in the game, exploring off the beaten track, every nook and cranny of the map had a story to tell. It's funny that Valve disliked the PS3 so much around the time of Orange Box, yet were happy to release Portal 2 on Sony's console and give everyone a free Steam code. I wonder how much money Sony slipped Gabe for that change of heart ;)
@danielgomez7236
@danielgomez7236 Жыл бұрын
Well it was not about money of course, Sony provided full support for Valve games and Gabe finally changed his mind
@PikaStu666
@PikaStu666 Жыл бұрын
@@danielgomez7236 yeah of course it wasn’t about money 😉
@parazels83
@parazels83 Жыл бұрын
It's not funny. Funny is that Portal 2 was one of rare games which ran better on PS3, than Xbox360.
@alex.starostin
@alex.starostin Жыл бұрын
it's a shame that Half life 2 on Series didn't get fps boosted and still runs at 30fps..
@DP12321
@DP12321 Жыл бұрын
@@alex.starostin And now it's set to be delisted in a few days. 😔
@godonomas
@godonomas Жыл бұрын
In an alternate universe Gordon, Barney, and Kleiner are all playing Digital Foundry 2.
@Entropic_Alloy
@Entropic_Alloy Жыл бұрын
That quote from Gabe is hilarious considering how a few years later they were very buddy buddy with Sony for the release of Portal 2. I mean if you bought the PS3 version of the game, you got a free copy of the Steam version.
@cakeisamadeupdrug6134
@cakeisamadeupdrug6134 Жыл бұрын
Giving away a copy for a competing platform doesn't seem very "buddy buddy"
@MasterF18
@MasterF18 Жыл бұрын
@@cakeisamadeupdrug6134 The free copy was given away as an incentive for cross platform co-op between PS3 and Steam, which was novel at the time.
@Clay3613
@Clay3613 Жыл бұрын
Never doubt Mark Cerny's dark powers.
@kyle52905
@kyle52905 Жыл бұрын
To be fair to Gabe the PS3 must have been a nightmare to develop on I'm the early days. I kinda respect him having the balls to point out how ridiculous cell was. By the time portal 2 came out libraries were more usable on PS3 so Gabe probably was more okay with working on it by then and multi plat was basically the standard.
@alan_7390
@alan_7390 7 күн бұрын
Gabe always showing why he deserved to be the CEO spreading his knowledge on us.
@RyanCoomer
@RyanCoomer Жыл бұрын
I'm a janitor at a school and after hours I'll place lettuce heads in random lockers so the next day there is lettuce in a locker
@theengineer-dellconagher
@theengineer-dellconagher Жыл бұрын
keep it up, doc! good stuff
@TheWh1teL1ght
@TheWh1teL1ght Жыл бұрын
Wow that's cool
@-redacted_by_youtube
@-redacted_by_youtube Жыл бұрын
Dad? Is that you?
@WigneyR
@WigneyR Жыл бұрын
Locker lettuce you could call it
@KrissFliss
@KrissFliss Жыл бұрын
Do you by any chance know a James Lancaster?
@cjaay4359
@cjaay4359 Жыл бұрын
man i really love Retro time capsule videos we need more time capsule videos I've watched all of the time capsule videos again and again and i know its really hard and time consuming to make these type of videos so thank you Alex and DF team really appreciate this :)
@DonkeyRhubarb21
@DonkeyRhubarb21 Жыл бұрын
I had this on a 7800GT. Some of the best game experiences of my life. Half Life 2 and its associated online games gave so much.
@mandrews6282
@mandrews6282 Жыл бұрын
Hearing the joy of you guys exploring this one is making me want to play it all over again.
@MKR3238
@MKR3238 Жыл бұрын
if you want to experience it again, but slightly better check out hl2 update + mmod (for improved gunplay)
@Edwins1984
@Edwins1984 Жыл бұрын
Never stop doing these kind of video's guys! Amazing stuff.
@slippynipz
@slippynipz Жыл бұрын
What a damn bone-chilling intro. Fantastic game, cant believe it's been almost 20 years...
@WAstEDxLaMA
@WAstEDxLaMA Жыл бұрын
I love these videos and I love these three guys! It’s like meeting up with old friends :) Thanks guys
@moncho_mx
@moncho_mx Жыл бұрын
This video fills me with joy because the OG Xbox "slideshow" version was the first time I played HL2, it blew my mind even in its choppy state, and by the end of 2005 you could play Doom 3, HL2 and Halo 2 all on the same system! the OG Xbox was a great console for sure :D
@davidrenton
@davidrenton Жыл бұрын
originally got it for my dad , because it had a DVD player in it, my Dad (he would have been 60 ish) at the time ended up getting around a 1000 + games for OG Xbox and 360.
@DNFHistory
@DNFHistory Жыл бұрын
A Xbox 360 version running on Series X at 2160p comparison would have been fun too!
@TSL73
@TSL73 Жыл бұрын
Recently beat it that way! Was very cool to play it on a current gen console.
@mikem2253
@mikem2253 Жыл бұрын
@@TSL73 How did you get it? I do not see it on the Xbox store no more.
@Minnevan
@Minnevan Жыл бұрын
@@mikem2253the orange box is the only way I think, if it’s not available digitally then you’ll have to hunt down a physical copy
@mrbrookeyoung
@mrbrookeyoung Жыл бұрын
@@Minnevan Isn't it locked at 30 though?
@RalfKraus
@RalfKraus Жыл бұрын
Yes the Orange Box Version on SERIES X is awesome!
@wile123456
@wile123456 Жыл бұрын
Portal 2 source engine on PS3 and orange box PS3 is such a big jump in performance its insane. It's clear the PS3 version only uses the single cpu core and the RSX for all its rendering. No SPU's even touched
@SapoArdente
@SapoArdente Жыл бұрын
You should do a comparison between the different versions of Resident Evil 4, there are significant diferences between GC and PS2.
@EndlessFunctionality
@EndlessFunctionality Жыл бұрын
Oh man that PS2. The audio was so degraded it sounded like having wax paper over my speakers.
@-TriP-
@-TriP- Жыл бұрын
Back then I had a P4 2.8GHz/HT with 512MB of RDRAM and a Radeon 9800pro ... ran great!
@samdenler7982
@samdenler7982 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these videos guys, keep em coming!
@Stinger2578
@Stinger2578 Жыл бұрын
One strong memory of playing this in November of 2004 was having my first experience with motion sickness from an FPS game. Water Hazard with what would have been high settings on my PC back then couldn't maintain the smooth framerate when it went from the tunnel to the first open area. Ended up with some nausea and slight headache until I figured out to lower details.
@QuantumAssassin
@QuantumAssassin Жыл бұрын
These comparisons are very interesting to see how far tech has come. Thanks for putting this together guys.
@silveriosierra6405
@silveriosierra6405 Жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome! I was grinning when Rich needed explanation about the blue ball reference :) I am jealous of how you guys make a living but also happy to see you guys doing what you love. Keep in coming Digital Foundry.
@bellotriggerfish
@bellotriggerfish Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this bit of retro video. You guys make these clips very much fun to watch. Sorry Rich had a hard time with the PS3 version. One point to consider is that any OG Xbox was probably hooked up to a standard tube TV of the day. And this might have looked really good on a tube TV with its 480i NTSC output. One other thing to note regarding the PS3 version vs the Xbox 360 version: the PS3 did not have DD5.1 Live which the 360 version did have. The only way to get surround from the PS3 version was to set it to 5.1 PCM or 7.1 PCM which was only possible through HDMI and not every receiver had that. Many surround receivers still had only an optical input or a coax input for digital surround, and so not having that DD5.1 was kinda sucky. Whoever ported the game either completely missed this important audio feature, or didn't know how to make it work. Anyway, more vids like this please 🙂
@Beastw1ck
@Beastw1ck Жыл бұрын
As someone who was there when HL2 released, I’m amazed and delighted that it remains relevant this far into the future.
@JANER64
@JANER64 Жыл бұрын
Same here....I started off with HL1 ofc , 1999, one year after it's release.
@flush_entity
@flush_entity Жыл бұрын
same! i even tried the leak version. But didnt play the game (couldnt really lol) just messed with the physics, which at the time, blew my friggin mind. Still does! Not many games has physics you can play with
@MrStrangermoon
@MrStrangermoon Жыл бұрын
the drone idea definlty mostly happen on real world but they should do the robot dogs in game back then.
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 Жыл бұрын
@@flush_entity Crysis is a good sucessor to Half Life 2 (besides Alyx obviously). I had a lot of fun.
@QuestionBlockGaming
@QuestionBlockGaming Жыл бұрын
Early on in this video you quoted the system requirements for HL2; but you took the ones from the steam page, not from the back of the box! The steam page is for when the games got updated with the Orange Box engine and brought up to spec for that; but the original system requirements were a 1.2ghz Pentium 3 and 256MB of RAM! The original Xbox being able to squeeze the entire game onto 64MB of ram is really impressive but the performance gap between 1.0 HL2 and the orange box HL2 is pretty immense and is worth stating.
@chrisrichfield8906
@chrisrichfield8906 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the game would perform better with the 128mb ram mod. Probably not without some hacking of the game but I'm still curious.
@CrispyChicken44
@CrispyChicken44 Жыл бұрын
This video is so trippy to me, I'm so happy and thankful you guys made this. I first played Half-Life 2 on PC when it first came out and played the hell out of it. Years later I only had an Xbox and wanted to replay HL2 so I played that version of the game and boy the differences were wild. It never occurred to me *why* the changes needed to be made because I didn't know what I do now. Thank you.
@Rhahdhdn
@Rhahdhdn Жыл бұрын
I’m loving these videos!! More of this type of content.
@sumitupadhayay2270
@sumitupadhayay2270 Жыл бұрын
Just installed it after ages and playing it on my 4k set with dldsr and it still holds up considering it's suchhhh an old game. An absolute classic
@Rhysdoesletsplays
@Rhysdoesletsplays Жыл бұрын
I really want to see Half Life 2 on Nintendo Switch now. I think it could probably run close to a locked 60 at 720p at least.
@lethal_guitar
@lethal_guitar Жыл бұрын
"If people are still watching" - I watched it all the way to the end! These laid-back "just hanging out and playing" type videos are some of my favorite DF content!
@AnnDVine
@AnnDVine Жыл бұрын
I love this! Good banter, fascinating comparisons, comfortable vibes, it's just nice!
@Batistadx4
@Batistadx4 Жыл бұрын
These are awesome!! Honestly, I'm a huge nerd for these kind of time capsules of redesigning games to run better on weaker hardware that was prevalent at the time, I feel like you could make an entire channel dedicated to looking at ports like this, the PS2/Dreamcast Half-life 1 ports, the Xbox Counter-Strike ports, etc... PSP ports of PS2/PS3 games would also be amazing for that purpose, like the PSP port of Star Wars Battlefront 2!
@glox023
@glox023 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Please have more Rich in future episodes, he's hilarious to me.
@HiCZoK
@HiCZoK Жыл бұрын
I love these vids with all you commenting and exploring at the same time.
@Hugh_Jainus
@Hugh_Jainus Жыл бұрын
Keep doing the time capsule videos, they're great! Binging all the retro pc vids.
@robsondaniel5537
@robsondaniel5537 Жыл бұрын
"Look: There's a representation of the frame time graph of the PS3 here" really got me
@cellspeed8682
@cellspeed8682 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and it was ported from the OG Xbox version. 😂
@simonuk1213
@simonuk1213 Жыл бұрын
Was playing The Orange Box on Series X a couple months ago and was really impressed with how good it looked.
@mrbrookeyoung
@mrbrookeyoung Жыл бұрын
Wish it wasn't locked to 30fps
@Clutch4IceCream
@Clutch4IceCream Жыл бұрын
@@mrbrookeyoung it’s not, Xbox’s high frame rate mode pushes it to 60fps
@EndlessFunctionality
@EndlessFunctionality Жыл бұрын
@@Clutch4IceCream That's good to hear it got and FPS. I'll have to pull my copy out.
@TechnicolorTube
@TechnicolorTube Жыл бұрын
@@Clutch4IceCream Its not 60fps. There is no FPS Boost for Orange Box on Series X/S. I am playing it right now and its 30 fps.
@TechnicolorTube
@TechnicolorTube Жыл бұрын
@@EndlessFunctionality I'm playing Half Life 2 (Orange Box) on my Series X right now and its 30 fps. No FPS Boost for Orange Box. That person must be mistaken.
@cansahin7278
@cansahin7278 Жыл бұрын
Love you guys, keep making contents like this!
@Livo33
@Livo33 Жыл бұрын
1:03:20 You can actually attach to ladders in HL2 by simply facing them and then pressing E: when you do this, you can climb them but cannot fall off or leave them until you press E again. You can also use the ladders the old fashioned "run up or down and try not to fall off" way as well.
@forresthunter1483
@forresthunter1483 Жыл бұрын
I first played this game on the Xbox, and was amazed at how it just seemed like the system was hanging on for dear life while running it. I loved it for what it was and knew that, one day, I'd be playing a much better version on the next gen consoles. Of course, I got a PS3, so...
@Clay3613
@Clay3613 Жыл бұрын
The PS3 version was fine though, look at all the added effects and not looking like ragged torn paper!
@cellspeed8682
@cellspeed8682 Жыл бұрын
@@Clay3613 Exactly. Also loading times are not much of an issue if you play at least halfway decent. Rich on the other side... oh boy...
@RichieMyers12
@RichieMyers12 Жыл бұрын
My first experience with HL2 was on the OG XBox. I loved every second of it.
@Al-dv1zj
@Al-dv1zj Жыл бұрын
Great vid!! So much work has been put into making this xbox conversion, really awesome stuff. 1 thing I always wondered about hl2: if memory serves, in the early trailers it haD dynamic lightmaps for effects like gunshot flashes illuminating the environmental textures. In the final game only some objects like boxes would get lit, but not the walls or ground textures for example. I wonder why those were cut
@gamerxt333
@gamerxt333 Жыл бұрын
Probably performance requirements would be too high, although they could of kept this as an option I guess, especially now. MMod can also do that though I think...
@Tyranniod
@Tyranniod Жыл бұрын
These videos are amazing. I'd definitely like more of these.
@TheLucasbuck
@TheLucasbuck Жыл бұрын
These are my favourite DF videos. Great work as always.
@dakotadeepdisaster106
@dakotadeepdisaster106 Жыл бұрын
This is a delightful episode! A load of insightful information, a bit of nostalgia and a bit of laughs. It was a pleasant, even calming, experience for me
@formulajuan5762
@formulajuan5762 Жыл бұрын
More videos of the three of you playing games together please, these videos rock :)
@brettlivingston595
@brettlivingston595 Жыл бұрын
"Leon doesn't know how to enter or exit houses properly." - digital foundry
@GodsSoldier2
@GodsSoldier2 Жыл бұрын
This game is the reason why I explore every corner of every game I play. The game that started it all
@lordcustard-smythe-smith9153
@lordcustard-smythe-smith9153 Жыл бұрын
Still playing HL2 in 3d nvidia vision with 3 screens, and still looks fantastic. There is an upgraded graphics version on Steam available from a 3rd party developer.
@henriqueaugustus1761
@henriqueaugustus1761 Жыл бұрын
I remember those days. 3d gaming was sick. I loved Burnout Paradise on 3d. It was so intense.
@VideoGameProfessor
@VideoGameProfessor Жыл бұрын
This video is comedy gold! Please do more of these in the future.
@Hvojnyj
@Hvojnyj 10 ай бұрын
guys I so love your videos like these one because every time it feels like I'm hanging with my friends in early 00's with a new game
@CodyHimselfXI
@CodyHimselfXI Жыл бұрын
The Xbox demo disc for Half-Life2 was my first experience with this game. I played through the entire thing in one weekend when my Dad rented the game for me from Blockbuster, lol! 3 years later my grandpa bought me a gaming Acer laptop and I was finally able to run the game at max settings, 60 fps. Regardless, I must say, the Xbox version was a phenomenal port.
@5punkybob
@5punkybob 10 ай бұрын
Just think… the OG Xbox ran doom 3 also.. Such a good machine.
@aurabless7552
@aurabless7552 Жыл бұрын
so interesting that yall post this just when I downloaded them all yesterday to play the Cinematic mod in 4k hahaha
@destructyo
@destructyo Жыл бұрын
These are my favorite videos you do!
@Breyzipp
@Breyzipp Жыл бұрын
Loved that “Gabe was right” at the very end. 😂 Awesome playthrough guys, I thoroughly enjoyed watching this as HL2 is one of my favourite games of all times
@razvanendl9900
@razvanendl9900 Жыл бұрын
Ok but why not xbox 360 on the orange box?
@Yodagamer1
@Yodagamer1 Жыл бұрын
ps3 is more fun to watch.
@HazyJ28
@HazyJ28 Жыл бұрын
You guys ever notice how the PS3 version of Orange Box HL2 had weird audio pitching errors?
@bugganutz3370
@bugganutz3370 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! One of my all time favourite games,and one of the quirkiest ports I ever owned! Just fascinating how this was able to run on OG Xbox.
@edulinares7152
@edulinares7152 Жыл бұрын
I've played the whole Orange Box collection on ps3 and had a great time. It was considered a terrible port, and it had obvious issues like audio glitches throughout. Still, it was perfectly playable and the games are excellent. It's maybe not ideal, but it wasn't nearly as bad as people who never played it made it seem.
@sebastianaliandkulche
@sebastianaliandkulche Жыл бұрын
I rather play HL2 on PS3 than the OG Xbox, thats for sure.
@lukeo5908
@lukeo5908 Жыл бұрын
I died at John’s mention of ‘Xbox exclusive loading screens’ 🤣 Love this content, keep up the great work team!
@adamdygnarowicz5127
@adamdygnarowicz5127 Жыл бұрын
Love your passion guys. 1 hour of content on almost 20 years old game.
@Fahrenheit38
@Fahrenheit38 Жыл бұрын
Love these videos! I'd really like to see older PC games that have different APIs compared. See if the glide version looks different then the metal version and what have you
@ice2163
@ice2163 Жыл бұрын
Another great video to watch for today!
@ravajbains8672
@ravajbains8672 Жыл бұрын
OG Xbox Port is nothing less than phenomenal considering the hardware...
@JamesSturges
@JamesSturges Жыл бұрын
11:22: I’d have to imagine the missing door on Xbox is to prevent a scenario where the player is looking through both that door and the door to outside, potentially rendering more geometry than the poor old Box could render.
@johnnypopstar
@johnnypopstar Жыл бұрын
Loved this! Don't remember whether I had this at launch, on my old Athlon XP 1800+, or only got it after upgrading to the E6600 as featured here, but damn, that really was an exciting time to be into this shit. The physics alone was a revelation.
@Slowbuilderchallenge
@Slowbuilderchallenge Жыл бұрын
Awesome seeing you guys cover the og xbox version finally. Do you think you'll cover Riddick Escape from Butcher Bay on og xbox? I remember one of you offhand mentioning the dynamic res system in that game a while ago...
@AutomotiveCNC
@AutomotiveCNC Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: One of main game designers who worked on "Half-life 2" is of Bulgarian origin, this is why there are so many references to typical Bulgarian stuff in the game, such like the tall concrete buildings in the first stage taking inspiration from those found in Sofia, the capital city of Bulgaria; the hills populated with plenty of steep old houses next to the river (a reference to Veliko Tarnovo, the old capital city of Bulgaria, and the Yantra river), the red "Petrol" logo seen at the 19:00 minute (an actual Bulgarian oil company whose old logo was exactly the same at the time), etc.
@marleystar3
@marleystar3 Жыл бұрын
Lol, Soviet style buildings aint off Zigeuners
@AutomotiveCNC
@AutomotiveCNC Жыл бұрын
@@marleystar3 , that's right, those are Bulgarian buildings, nothing to do with Soviet ones.
@carlharrison3637
@carlharrison3637 Жыл бұрын
I loved my ps3, its what got me buying the ps4 - originally I was an xbox user, OG and then 360 but that died on me.... red ring , microsoft pissed me about so I ended up getting the ps3 - had some great, great games and was blown away compared to how things looked on the 360. Might have been a nightmare for the developers, but from what I remember, the games were fab.
@Loundsify
@Loundsify Жыл бұрын
Infamous, Killzone, resistance, uncharted all good series on the triple
@femto8402
@femto8402 Жыл бұрын
Most games looked way worse on ps3 compared to 360 tho
@terrortone44
@terrortone44 Жыл бұрын
this is such a great idea for a video, you guys are G's
@dsidebotham
@dsidebotham Жыл бұрын
Mkre of these videos , I think this could be a new series for the channel. Really enjoy them.
@azazelleblack
@azazelleblack Жыл бұрын
This has been the most interesting retro time capsule video to date because of the platforms you picked. It's absolutely amazing what they achieved on the Xbox given its meager specifications, and the PS3 version is fascinatingly bad, but the Orange Box engine upgrades are fascinating to see in comparison to the original PC version. Kudos!
@ashleythomas4112
@ashleythomas4112 Жыл бұрын
Not all of the PS3 version is fascinatingly bad, mostly performance in certain areas.
@JulianCallan
@JulianCallan Жыл бұрын
The original Xbox version is a masterpiece of porting.
@orijimi
@orijimi Жыл бұрын
Partly because it still has the pistol charge exploit.
@Parker--
@Parker-- Жыл бұрын
Agreed. It was excellent and I would bet played as well as it did on PC for those without a proper gaming PC (ie. without a video card).
@sebastianaliandkulche
@sebastianaliandkulche 5 ай бұрын
I have to disagree. The game is pretty much unenjoyable in that state.
@borisdg
@borisdg Жыл бұрын
Great content guys!
@kupokinzyt
@kupokinzyt Жыл бұрын
I have been asking for this for years, thank you.
@plkrtn
@plkrtn Жыл бұрын
Not really a fair comparison to put the OG Xbox against the PS3 when generationally it's rival was the PS2. Just shows what a masterpiece the OG Xbox port was
@sebastianaliandkulche
@sebastianaliandkulche 5 ай бұрын
I cant say is a masterpiece since it runs pretty bad. Perfect ports imo should not only do the job of translating the original without compromises but also if its possible improve on it. The PS2 port of the first game was, as a port, miles better.
@xBINARYGODx
@xBINARYGODx Жыл бұрын
Fences blocking you from going over a few steps is because they likely removed something you would only see removed if you walked a few steps over - to save on memory.
@dan_loeb
@dan_loeb Жыл бұрын
wikipedia says EA Bright Light (formerly EA UK) ported it. the source is an old news article with Doug Lombardi explaining the delay of the ps3 version. he directly says EA UK was handling the port.
@WilfredBrimleyGaming
@WilfredBrimleyGaming Жыл бұрын
Original xbox version was played on a CRT by most people like myself. I played it on a 32 inch 4:3 with component cables. It made games like that look so much better than modern flat panels
@BerryBurgerMeister
@BerryBurgerMeister Жыл бұрын
These are my favorite DF videos for sure.
@tylerbrown8357
@tylerbrown8357 Жыл бұрын
I love this. My first play through of hl2 was on the og Xbox. It’s really neat to see it compared to other versions, I remember being really impressed with it back in the day 😂
@MiniBeas
@MiniBeas Жыл бұрын
I love these Time Capsule episodes. Chronicles of Riddick or Starcraft 64 vs the PC port.
@enriquepinero707
@enriquepinero707 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video! Now I will wait for the rumored Switch port of this game and see how that hold (or doesn't hold) up! Given how good the portal port was; you would think it would be a good one.
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody Жыл бұрын
It's actually pretty odd that they didn't just port the whole Orange Box over. Switch may not be that strong but most things from the 00s should run 1080/720 60fps on pretty much max settings. Talking about stuff from the 00s, considering that we have touch/pointer controls, Microsoft could as well port Age of Empires 2/3 cause why not, those are PC games, not essential Xbox stuff.
@aaz1992
@aaz1992 Жыл бұрын
This was a treat. Thanks, guys!
@nickhernandez2899
@nickhernandez2899 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting so long for that doom 3 video
@djbrokoly3909
@djbrokoly3909 Жыл бұрын
One of my fav FPS games of all time!!!!! great DF!
@xTaimaX
@xTaimaX Жыл бұрын
Man I’m really enjoying these time capsule vs console videos
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