Honest Trailers Commentary | Mulan (2020)
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Honest Trailers Commentary | Mulan (2020)
Hosted by Spencer Gilbert (@SpencerJGilbert)
Featuring: Joe Starr (@joestarr187) & Lon Harris (@lons)
Produced by Ryan O'Toole (@ryanohtrue)
Tech Director: Jonathan Moulton (@MoultonArts)
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Executive Producer: Roth Cornet
Writer/Producer: Joe Starr
Writer: Eric Goldman
Supervising Producer: Max Dionne
Senior Producer: Billy Patterson
Post-Production Supervisor: Emin Bassavand
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@Evelyn_Okay 3 жыл бұрын
Disney be like: women oppressing women empowers women.
@ieatgremlins 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds legit 🤷🏻♀️ lol
@Evelyn_Okay 3 жыл бұрын
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@rhealastname266 3 жыл бұрын
@@Evelyn_Okay LMFAO
@immanuelkason1905 2 жыл бұрын
you all probably dont care but does anyone know a trick to log back into an Instagram account..? I was dumb lost the account password. I love any assistance you can give me
@elizabethhurlbut1475 3 жыл бұрын
If they had a Chinese writer on board perhaps they could have spoken up during script production, "That's not how Chi works".
@UCanGetWitThisOrUCanGetWitThat 3 жыл бұрын
I felt they should had a Chinese and/Asian director. Cause the movie felt like it was made about the East from a Western perspective.
@LoganBluth 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, how DOES Chi work...? I mean, in real life supernatural powers don't actually exist, so is it just learning to concentrate really hard so you're extremely focused...?
@vikkiluo1419 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoganBluth I think Chi is much more about life energy, so its more like enhancing one's natural powers (at least in the irl sense) so like channeling chi is more connected with martial arts and being able to control stamina/energy (proper conservation of stamina and correct application of force) to maximalize your body's impact while minimizing energy used. Everyone is supposed to have chi, but like how untrained athletes waste a lot of energy and time with unprecise moves and bad form/posture, most people waste chi because they don't focus on where they use their energy. Obviously, once we get into legends and folklore and gods and stuff chi gets a lot more magical, as they enhance magical powers then instead of physical, but it is definitely a concept that exists irl for martial arts, and my teachers would reference it when I took martial arts classes a couple of years ago lol.
@the29thPanda 3 жыл бұрын
I mean in the original animated movie chi wasn’t even involved in it
@toddhollen 3 жыл бұрын
They could have even like watched a Chinese movie or something first.
@nadine9142 3 жыл бұрын
Spencer’s explanation that Mulan wants to be a warrior: “She chases chickens with a stick” 😂
@De-Nigma 3 жыл бұрын
Well it was funny when Link did it.
@toddhollen 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently that also counts as training to be a Kung Fu master that can fly around like Crouching Tiger and shit, too.
@rapchee 3 жыл бұрын
"crazy witch asians" made me lol
@pcbassoon3892 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see why she needed magic powers. Why could she just be a badass lady who trained a lot? And I like that she starts with no training because we get to see her struggle and grow.
@toddhollen 3 жыл бұрын
That could have been cool if they had made it a "wire-fu" movie like Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon or Hero or something, which I think they kinda tried to do, but then didn't. And I'm pretty sure the Kung Fu masters in those get their powers from years of training not just being born special.
@shiranuiaensland1442 3 жыл бұрын
The movie starts out with her already training.
@shiranuiaensland1442 3 жыл бұрын
@@toddhollen It was implied that she had been training throughout her childhood. The movie's fault is that they did not give her a master. If it was meant to be her dad, it was still not made clear.
@toddhollen 3 жыл бұрын
@@shiranuiaensland1442 No it didn't. She flew down from that roof like Michelle Yeoh after chasing that chicken when she was like 6. And then her dad told her that Chi is for boys shortly after that. When did she train to become a Kung Fu master?
@shiranuiaensland1442 3 жыл бұрын
@@toddhollen The very first scene shows her wielding a staff in a field, right before her village was even shown. Though the voiceover ruins it all by immediately talking about chi.
@AlbertoRangelD 3 жыл бұрын
They offered the movie to Ang Lee in 2016, but he turned down, and now I can't stop thinking what a good movie that could've been.
@tamhuy10 3 жыл бұрын
maybe he sawtheir script and ran away
@triggerfairy4070 3 жыл бұрын
He will replace the Phoenix with Flaming Doves
@yoss22h 3 жыл бұрын
The problems with this movie were baked in when they chose the script writers
@tygerlyn1123 3 жыл бұрын
Well, he might have been pushed into a corner by the studio. I think that's what happened with this director.
@HoraceInkling 3 жыл бұрын
@@triggerfairy4070 that’s John Woo, dummy.
@Burentsu 3 жыл бұрын
Chi lets you use the SKADOOSH, wait that's Kung Fu Panda.
@R2-DPOO 3 жыл бұрын
When Spencer said that the Disney live action remakes all feel like the characters have seen the original and are acting their way through it ive never agreed more 😂😂
@Ladykyra101 3 жыл бұрын
"Baby's first Braveheart." lol. Thanks Lon, now I'm picturing a baby with blue face paint, wearing a onesie sucking on a pacifier. 🤣
@Cuuniyevo 3 жыл бұрын
Except the pacifier is a thistle flower, because it's a tough baby.
@eatatjoes6751 3 жыл бұрын
Schaffrillas' angry short rant about how inorganic the music is (along with his entire review) is something I was reminded of when you brought up the musical winks and nods. "YOU EITHER COMMIT TO THE MUSIC OR NOT!" Also, the qi/chi thing aggravates me so much.
@Kelarys 3 жыл бұрын
watching this after seeing Schaffrillas video is frustrating because he brings up so many excellent points that aren't acknowledged at all. Particularly about losing the most intense dramatic scenes from the original
@eatatjoes6751 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kelarys I suggest everyone go watch it, it's hilarious how righteously pissed off he gets about this movie.
@TheMbangel 2 жыл бұрын
Xiran created their KZfaq channel just to roast this movie. That video was really interesting. She followed that video up with doing a cultural comparison to the Mulan Disney Animated Movie.
@nicward6418 3 жыл бұрын
LON NEEDS a new mic! Let’s start a go fund. My ears in my headphones can’t take it 👂 🩸
@Atom-E.B.E. 3 жыл бұрын
I'd rather have Spencer learn how to verbalize a thought without stuttering all over his mic first
@CM-pf1xc 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically, this was the ONLY Disney remake that they Should have just copied animated movie, I would have loved to see the regular animated story but live! It would have been so beautiful and fun. But oh well all the Disney life actions are officially dumb and pointless
@josephmoenrevolution 3 жыл бұрын
Here's hoping they do an Honest Trailer for Quibi. They're 30 minute seasons, you can probably do the whole service in one trailer.
@jp3813 3 жыл бұрын
25:37 I'm willing to bet that the animated Mulan killed way more enemies.
@jimmybonez8928 3 жыл бұрын
Still, the UYGURS!!!!!!!
@papamoosey1595 3 жыл бұрын
Dry Epic Voice Guy is the best EVG. "Wake me when they get to the fireworks finale. Oh they cut that too? That's a shame" 🤣🤣 Great deadpan from Jon
@sasamafrass 3 жыл бұрын
Missing Danielle!
@alexishorowitz6061 3 жыл бұрын
I would like a live action Black Cauldron. No songs to worry about, it’s dark and scary. And Disney doesn’t admit they made it. What could go wrong? 🤣
@lokithegodofmischief7289 3 жыл бұрын
Lon you're hiding your Taco. I really want to watch him. Joe your kitty 🐱is so cute. I'm already in love with it
@ChristopherYeeMon 3 жыл бұрын
To answer Lon's comment, Disney did try to get Ang Lee to do this live action Mulan, but he was too busy doing Gemini Man. Think of that. We coulda had an Ang Lee Mulan, instead we got a B- Mulan and B- Gemini Man.
@tamhuy10 3 жыл бұрын
theycould have postponed and wait for him
@hurricanejay1777 3 жыл бұрын
NGL my face lit up when Joe said "wushu". I did wushu for 9 years. My coach is actually the stunt double for Yao in this movie! It's a small community and no one really knows about it. It felt cool to be seen :)
@Evelyn_Okay 3 жыл бұрын
Why this move give me 2016 The Great Wall vibes?
@TakeshiYoung 3 жыл бұрын
Those deleted scenes were amazing!
@jasonflay8818 3 жыл бұрын
I got it, "The River Runs Through it". Yep that totally fits with their programming materials
@CoachCabrera 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great show
@sneggleblech 3 жыл бұрын
My answer for the animated remake of a live action movie that Disney owned at the time is The Sixth Sense.
@Houldey 3 жыл бұрын
The bird lady is the only reason i'm remotely curious about the movie. I'll maybe just check her scenes on youtube or something - I care so little about the rest of the film i wouldnt even pirate it to spite that idiotic additional charge.
@jingzhiwang121 3 жыл бұрын
the plot of the bird lady is a total mess, motivation unclear, illogical decision-making and sudden death
@SamuelHsieh 3 жыл бұрын
@@jingzhiwang121 I think the bird lady is suppose to represent interventionist America. Probably Disney thought incorporating China's critique on U.S. foreign policy would make the film sell better there.
@LuuCaicedo 3 жыл бұрын
"Maybe she's born with it, maybe is Mulan's Shi" 😂😂💀💀
@ajm-kohaku840 3 жыл бұрын
Now I want to see an Honest Trailer for Berry Gordy's The Last Dragon. Please make that happen!
@doumora 3 жыл бұрын
Bring back Roth and Danielle!
@Bad_Wolf_Media 3 жыл бұрын
On the question of how the Emperor got away to be captured, etc, they addressed that by having the witch possess(?) the advisor/general/whatever he was and led the guards away or whatever she did. I've only watched it once, but there is SOME story beat in there than the Emperor was tricked into going off on his own.
@jonathanortega753 3 жыл бұрын
Please do Umbrella Academy honest tv trailers please!
@trinity6302 3 жыл бұрын
Atlantis could make an amazing live action movie
@TheLowBrassDude 3 жыл бұрын
Jon nailed that scale there!
@alanambrister381 3 жыл бұрын
Another week til The Goonies Honest Trailer
@acwilsonuk 3 жыл бұрын
This and Lion King prove that not all animated classic's need a remake
@ieatgremlins 3 жыл бұрын
As a Spanish speaker, hearing Joe ask “did you have chi chis growing up?” killed me 😂
@reyneskipper 3 жыл бұрын
Mulan tried to please everyone.. it failed.
@asf8648 3 жыл бұрын
I think The Black Cauldron would benefit from a remake. Let Guillermo Del Toro or someone with horror skills at it to add a tinge of edge and polish up the story. It has potential and I think a remarke should try to improve on the source or add something new to the story.
@waywardmind 9 ай бұрын
The real problem is that it's book 2 of 5. It's a dumb place to start with the Prydain Chronicles.
@Cobralalalala 3 жыл бұрын
Oddly, I was just watching something the other day that tackled a similar subject (in this case Be Kind Rewind's video on Jodie Foster's Oscar win for Silence of the Lambs). While studios (and by extension, the academy) want want to reward movies that empower women, there's a backlash when they go so far as to challenge the system or status quo, the way Thelma and Louise did. I think that's what we saw with Mulan.
@originalindigodingo 3 жыл бұрын
WHEN ARE YOU GONNA DO ARTEMIS FOWL?!?
@Zutarababe09 3 жыл бұрын
Spencer giving off "Sokka with his hair down" vibes
@mariapdr3261 3 жыл бұрын
Damn Lon has the best answers, I would totally an animated Alien series
@stuffwithkim 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with Lon. At least this remake attempted to re-make the movie and not copy and paste the cartoon. I really enjoyed Mulan 2020.
@FlagCutie 3 жыл бұрын
"Did you guys have ChiChi's?" Cue the Spanish speakers highlighting that chichi is also slang for boobs! 😂
@joelhahn2501 3 жыл бұрын
A Disney cartoon that =needs= the live action treatment? The Black Cauldron. Do it *right*. (It also could be a multi-movie franchise or a multi-season TV show, as there are 5 main novels in the series.)
@sarahwalsman6944 2 жыл бұрын
We need a live action Brave!!!!!
@alrensha7479 2 жыл бұрын
When are you guys going to be in studio?
@churchhide 2 жыл бұрын
“Lot of white folks behind the camera” 🤣 that was a good one 27:27
@vybezD 3 жыл бұрын
Can we get one for Stargate SG1? I just started my rewatch of the series.
@ScarsUnseen 3 жыл бұрын
My pick for animated live action movie is Something Wicked This Way Comes.
@Znobishtucon 3 жыл бұрын
Lon brought up an amazing point: what IS Tsui Hark up to?
@galogiha 3 жыл бұрын
Bakshi NEEDS to do a "one flew over..." animated version.
@flynnnolen1067 3 жыл бұрын
Imma make a wild prediction and say Hamilton for next week honest trailer. “Streamy” (I think that’s what he said lol) and “we’ve never done something like this before”
@angusng7792 3 жыл бұрын
If this was supposed to be a Star Wars movie written by Benioff and Weiss, this is what Rogue Squadron was suppose to be.
@Ladykyra101 3 жыл бұрын
Aw...the kitty whitty baby. 🤗
@talahar123 3 жыл бұрын
Frost/Nixon as next animated Disney+ movie. :p
@haggus71 3 жыл бұрын
The best Sword in the Stone has been done. It was called Excalibur.
@Queen3210 3 жыл бұрын
Just watching this now; I feel like Mulan becoming a great fighter/warrior through the army sounds a lot better than her starting out as one, because by becoming one, she 'Gets Gud' and we get to experience that with her.
@artistwithouttalent 3 жыл бұрын
21:26 With that specifically they were in a tough spot. They did that in the original movie and received backlash for their empowered female protagonist returning to her family and putting herself back in "her place," as the society would've deemed it, so they changed it for this movie and now people are like, "Oh, that's weird."
@stealintomorrow 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't chi wrapped up in Cultivation? and great cultivators have more powerful chi? I mean, having varying power levels of chi isn't totally wrong
@benabramowitz18 3 жыл бұрын
26:11 Alan!
@rachelranderson 3 жыл бұрын
The Black Cauldron should get a live action remake. Or just a remake in general-- it's super awesome and didn't get it's due.
@etc2913 3 жыл бұрын
I actually really the position Mulan was in at the end #MoreFemaleDronePilots
@fournierman 2 жыл бұрын
The Black Cauldron should get a live action remake.
@zobaerrahman4791 3 жыл бұрын
Honest trailer for Austin Powers trilogy
@Randomluck 3 жыл бұрын
YEAH BABY, YEAH!
@TheChefComic 3 жыл бұрын
American Dragon Jake Long should be a live-action movie. I would also love to see Kim Possible live action movie but actually done right this time.
@MannyD90 3 жыл бұрын
Please put the link for the honest trailer in the descriptions please!
@kypzethdurron 3 жыл бұрын
Streamy prediction - honest trailer for quibi or something equally insane? Surely it can't just be for hamilton or tiger king etc. Anything like Avatar TLA animated would be like the Doctor Who one they did or similar so it can't be any TV or film or musical you'd think? I get that Hamilton is live but it's basically just a film otherwise, so it must be for a streaming service?
@perrilewis180 3 жыл бұрын
The original Mulan character is very complex. From the opening we know that she's a square peg trying to fit in a round hole. She actually was okay with the arranged marriage. It was the way she could bring honor to her family and herself. That's why the ending is so great. She went from being a failure of a bride to the honorable warrior and savior of all. And it didn't matter because her father who she risked her life in saving was happy she came back This Mulan is just naturally gifted. There's nothing that a human woman in real world could achieve. This doesn't dig into me as much beauty and the beast did (it is one of my favorite disney movies and I love Belle.)
@talhabarlas985 3 жыл бұрын
Respect to honest trailers to mention the genocide against Muslims in China. Many are ignoring. They did not. Thank You!
@davidnavarro5398 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the Cronenberg/Crash version of Cars, but as long as Owen Wilson continues playing Lightning Mcqueen
@benabramowitz18 3 жыл бұрын
Something streamy? Is it going to be Hamilton? Or Black is King? They're both on streaming services, and they're unique!
@johnedwinfrigillana3131 3 жыл бұрын
here is an Idea Sword in the stone remake directed by kinoku Nasu
@BeNice108 3 жыл бұрын
"The girl that used her wits and determination to grow strong and save an empire" The fact they didn't stick with that sums up why this movie is so bad. They recast Mulan for somebody else but decided to use name recognition to sell it.
@thomasakers6728 3 жыл бұрын
Do Titan AE
@Sgtspork 3 жыл бұрын
David Cronenberg doing a live action 'Cars' would also recontextualize his earlier movie 'Crash' in some seriously screwed up ways.. 😆😆😆😆
@Sgtspork 3 жыл бұрын
Even more twisted than that movie already is..
@Nothing_Israel 3 жыл бұрын
So does Fandom still pay rent for your studio?
@toddhollen 3 жыл бұрын
They should make a live action remake of Rescuers Down Under, but only if they do it with humans playing the animals in nightmarish Cats-type digital costumes. And they should get Bob Newhart in to do it and then make digital versions on Eva Gabor and John Candy to play their characters in digital costumes to look like a mouse and albatross. Boom. $1 billion.
@MorsecodeZ 3 жыл бұрын
Glad they're able to monetize these ...
@georgiusmagnus 3 жыл бұрын
So chi is basically the Force and Mulan is Rey?
@michaelleahy9265 3 жыл бұрын
31:45 Here's how to crack King Arthur: You watch the Orion Pictures film Excalibur!
@pedrofigueiredo5460 3 жыл бұрын
15 adds to finish the video. my god
@fandomentertainment 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Apologies for that, KZfaq's auto ad placement went wild. Thanks for commenting we took those extra ones out.
@pedrofigueiredo5460 3 жыл бұрын
Fandom Entertainment all good! Always glad to help!
@Ladykyra101 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, a commercial each time they stop the honest trailer to discuss? 😵
@danielhall5364 3 жыл бұрын
I'ts been awhile since I've watched SJ. How long has it been a sausage fest? Guessing after Dan left?
@oldcowbb 3 жыл бұрын
the fact that they put a witch in there shows that no onein the crew knows chinese culture
@pcbassoon3892 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know chinese culture, but I am assuming witch-bird ladies aren't a common part of folklore?
@oldcowbb 3 жыл бұрын
@@pcbassoon3892 i'm just thinking witch is such a western trope, i don't recall any witch-like figure in any traditional chinese fiction
@andrewtormanen 2 жыл бұрын
This movie is why you shouldn't remake another adaptation.
@ghostboy9133 3 жыл бұрын
Do rocketeer man
@Fledermausmann 3 жыл бұрын
Was watching bits of this with my sister yesterday and my bro in law and I were laughing and just pointing out how stupid the bad guy is, or parts that were wrong with my story.. My sister just had one reply to all that... "Guys, it's a Disney movie." And she's right, we were expecting actual narrative logic to the movie or a decent bad guy or you know, the protagonist not to be a complete Mary Sue. But my sister is right. It's just a Disney money grab movie that goes through the motions of justifying it's existence. Our expectations should have been rock bottom... All these stupid remakes do is make me really really miss the old classic animated movies. Oh well, I guess I'm just going to have to wait for the live action remake of Toy Stories 1 through 4 now.
@Craniometry 3 жыл бұрын
Mulan is Rey in this remake.
@remixchild 3 жыл бұрын
At least Rey has the force excuse, wth is mulans excuse?
@Craniometry 3 жыл бұрын
@@remixchild haven't you heard? Disney characters doesn't need one.
@remixchild 3 жыл бұрын
@@Craniometry 😒
@TheMbangel 2 жыл бұрын
I think Mulan (2020) would've been better if it left out the chi and did what it promised... Not making this a re-telling of the Animated movie but about the song of Mulan. And I don't think in that fable/song did Mulan have supernatural power from chi.
@pokefairy8183 3 жыл бұрын
How do you talk about a movie like this and not mention "wuxia" or "cultivation"
@makdm2405 3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense since the people who made the movie don't seem to know much about it either...
@pokefairy8183 3 жыл бұрын
@@makdm2405 you right
@jimloesel2849 3 жыл бұрын
Someone should tell Joe his mike would sound better it it wasn’t up by his eyeball.
@imaanisaacs6183 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@bg6b7bft 3 жыл бұрын
Does it pass the Bechdel test?
@groc88 3 жыл бұрын
Have they done the animated Mulan honest trailer?
@deborahclayton7105 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing that in March. I thought the HT for this live version was made already
@theschmoeway9319 3 жыл бұрын
Next week will be Hamilton
@drakhoon 3 жыл бұрын
anyone else getting a ton of commercials? i dont mind some at the beginning and some at the end, but when its every 3-4 minutes i get a pair of commercials thats a bit much and makes me want to end the video early. And yes i know SJU has no control over it but that is why i am asking to see if its just me or is youtube finally gone to far?
@mwplaylist2890 3 жыл бұрын
I use an adblock for that very reason.
@matheuslascasas134 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to thiamine you guys for being honest and brave lol.
@bryzantine1571 3 жыл бұрын
Huh, when were cranes invented?
@steavemckansey6600 3 жыл бұрын
i feel like the animated movie that need an complete overhaul the most would be hercules ..so much good stuff in there but man that story is is not working and the motivation for the characters is just not there at all
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