How Kings Landing FELL to Rhaenyra | House of the Dragon Lore

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The Second Son

The Second Son

Жыл бұрын

House of the Dragon Lore: On this video we discuss how the Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen took the capital of King's Landing from her half brother King Aegon the Second.
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@Tormund_Giantsbrain
@Tormund_Giantsbrain Жыл бұрын
Poor Tyland man 😭 Tortured, mutilated, blinded and still stayed loyal and did not give away where the treasury was. A true gigachad and played the biggest role in Queen Maegora's downfall. When Rhaenyra's inner circle starts getting corpulent from obscene dinners as the city starves, and as the folks start protesting her unfair tax policies and she responds by mounting the Red Keep wall with heads on pikes, it's going to be a fantastic contrast to show Alicent saying *reluctance to murder is not a weakness* and telling Aegon to not rule with cruelty. If they can pull it off right the casual audience is gonna be heartbroken by the sheer betrayal they'll feel by Rhaenyra's 6 months of tyranny.
@TheeSecondSon
@TheeSecondSon Жыл бұрын
Dude I hope you’re right! Hopefully we see more of the book canon Rhaenyra and her greyness George rr Martin invoked. Ps- Tyland was the 🐐 haha . Clever & loyal man
@kimberlyplatt2382
@kimberlyplatt2382 Жыл бұрын
People aren't ready for what's about to happen once Rhaenyra takes the throne. If people thought Daemon was going buck wild during his brothers rein, they ain't seen nothing yet.
@notyetawomen5257
@notyetawomen5257 Жыл бұрын
God, I cannot wait for team black to be crushed 🤞. Honestly team black has been really annoying with their belief that Rhaernya is the hero of the story.
@seda6968
@seda6968 Жыл бұрын
@@kimberlyplatt2382 You will probably be disappointed in the show then. "History is often written by men who write off women as crazy or hysterical or evil and conniving or gold-digging or sexpots. We were able to step back" - Sara Hess (writer season 1 and 2)
@kimberlyplatt2382
@kimberlyplatt2382 Жыл бұрын
@@seda6968 I don't think so. The show is allowing us to see both sides.
@jjs1300000
@jjs1300000 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, it was smart how Tyland took the gold and split it. Rhaenyra was an idiot.
@TheeSecondSon
@TheeSecondSon Жыл бұрын
Genius, right ?! 1/4 in Oldtown, 1/4 in Casterly Rock, 1/4 in Braavos at the Iron Bank, and 1/4 for bribes gifts & sellswords! 💚🐉 🔥
@debamlyabanerjee4067
@debamlyabanerjee4067 Жыл бұрын
@@TheeSecondSon and rhanyra and her master of coin are the biggest fools in westrose he charged tax on those who has bastards then he should charged tax on rhanyra as well beacause she has 3 bastards so she have to pay thrise tax 💰😁
@MissPagan
@MissPagan Жыл бұрын
Alicent was right Rhaenyra did not hold Kings Landing long 💚
@MagicHurdlez
@MagicHurdlez Жыл бұрын
Gotta hand it to the greens that set up was perfect taking the money was a perfect idea.
@collinsmith9032
@collinsmith9032 Жыл бұрын
QUEEN Rhaenyra sons and grandsons ruled after her And Alicent Hightower (THE BITCH FROM Old Town) kids and grandkids were all Ash and Bone
@MissPagan
@MissPagan Жыл бұрын
@@collinsmith9032 Sorry but Rhaenyra was never considered QUEEN. She was always considered a USURPER. It simply doesn't matter that her blood line sat that Throne after her dead. She lost the war when she got ate tf up by Sunfyre. She lost her war. Period.
@Jbird._
@Jbird._ 3 ай бұрын
@@MissPaganexcuse me what? Rhaenrya is not the usurper Ageon is. Rhaenrya was simply taking her rightful throne
@MissPagan
@MissPagan 3 ай бұрын
@@Jbird._ Okay... Just because vizzy said so doesn't make it true. That doesn't mean the people would respect it and let it be. Stay mad.
@kimberlyplatt2382
@kimberlyplatt2382 Жыл бұрын
Who in their right mind , thought leaving Kingslanding open like this and is actually shocked they lost it?
@TheeSecondSon
@TheeSecondSon Жыл бұрын
Aemond’s my boy but that was definitely a miss calculation on his end! And Daemon seized the opportunity. But Helaena having one of largest dragons alive and being to “depress” to use it gets under my skin the most of all haha. I know she just lost a son, but Sorry not sorry 😂
@kimberlyplatt2382
@kimberlyplatt2382 Жыл бұрын
@@TheeSecondSon Aemond would have been better off attacking and taking control of Dragon stone. It was close, enough to hold and defend. Plus Meleuys and her rider was already dead. Colys was sick and barely holding it together. Plus he could have used his dragon to cripple driftmark
@yardknight4953
@yardknight4953 Жыл бұрын
@@kimberlyplatt2382 Dragonstone isn't as susceptible to dragon attack. Plus as mighty as Vhagar is, it'd be him vs. multiple dragons.
@kimberlyplatt2382
@kimberlyplatt2382 Жыл бұрын
@@yardknight4953 That I agree with. But during that time Daemon and is wife were gone and it was only one dragon there. Aegon did this at the near end and caught his half sister by surprise when she came back. Btw you should take donations to do video suggestions. It will be great.
@greenberry6019
@greenberry6019 Жыл бұрын
Interesting topic, and interesting video. Rhaenyra was smart here to reject the call for a Great Council when she had Alicent cornered. The question is, why didn't the Greens offer to hold a Great Council sooner, before the war? Back on Dragonstone, if they made better offers than taking hostages and a page of a book, Rhaenyra probably would have accepted her situation and not declared war. They could have given her territory in the Crownlands or Stormlands, marriage proposals, a Great Council, anything better than just Dragonstone. It seems to me that someone on the Green Council didn't want Aegon to be King, but instead wanted war with Rhaenyra. Was it Otto, or Larys, Orwyle, Aemond, maybe Criston himself? I hope we find out in Season 2. Happy new year, QuickThot!
@TheeSecondSon
@TheeSecondSon Жыл бұрын
So many questions we need the answers to! Haha. Happy New Years to you and your family Greenberry! Thanks for tuning in as always !
@yusufraage8554
@yusufraage8554 Жыл бұрын
If you count all the houses that sided with Rheanyra she would win. Rheanyra: The whole of the North, entirety of the Vale, the Riverlands bar one house Bracken probably because house Blackwood supports Rheanyra, The crownlands except the capital, the Reach wich is the headquarters of the Hightowers is split and because of that the Lord of Highgarden and the head of House Tyrell who is an infant his regent stay out of the war. House Greyjoy and last but not least house Velaryon. Aegon the usuper: Stormlands, Casterly Rock, house bracken, half of the Reach and the capital. Thats why they usurpt the throne because they knew it was the only chance they had.
@greenberry6019
@greenberry6019 Жыл бұрын
@@yusufraage8554 actually, the Brackens weren't the only reticent house in the Riverlands. Even the Tullies themselves would have chosen Aegon if Grover got his way. The Reach is also much more split. Keep in mind, the Hightowers are effectively the number 1 House, not the Tyrells, and the have the support of major Houses like the Peakes and Redwynes. Though, it is surprising that some big Houses like the Tarlies decided to rebel against the Hightowers to support Rhaenyra. That makes the Riverlands, Reach and Crownlands split between the Blacks and Greens. The North and Vale are points towards Rhaenyra, the Stormlands and Westerlands for Aegon. That leaves the Red Kraken, who isn't really on anyone's side because he just cares about pillaging, but does help Rhaenyra, and Dorne who, while not part of the Seven Kingdoms, does help the Greens. In the end, it's exactly 2 kingdoms each, with 3 split and 1 each as support. So really, no one side has an obvious advantage during the war, which is proven by the fact they all died in the end except for the Velaryon kids.
@yusufraage8554
@yusufraage8554 Жыл бұрын
@@greenberry6019 If you say so. I did the count and Reanyra has the support of more houses.
@debamlyabanerjee4067
@debamlyabanerjee4067 Жыл бұрын
@@yusufraage8554 all of North support starks in the war not election and vale houses also wanted a male and many of the houses didn't like jayne arryne
@debamlyabanerjee4067
@debamlyabanerjee4067 Жыл бұрын
if i was aegon ii the first thing i do that is send all of my children to oldtown for safety 2. Betrothed jaharyse and jahara to house martell so i can got dorne on my side because prince of dorne is a enemy to daemon and he has 30000 solders and a small fleet and he is a allie to tryarcy 3. i would tell tylant Lannister to bravose for having bravose fleet on my side 4. I well attak rhanyse with aemond and helena with 3 dragons i can kill her easily 5.beathrod daeron to Valantys citys rulers daughter 6. if tyrells has any daughter then I will bethordh her to maelor 7. i will offer hugh and ulf Lordship of eryie and gulltown they will not reble beacause i has aemond and vaghar
@TheeSecondSon
@TheeSecondSon Жыл бұрын
Aye! Love this ! Definitely see you’ve thought about this rather well my lord haha. I’m actually doing a video on ‘How I would have won the Dance’ as one of our Council members suggested. So look forward to that !
@debamlyabanerjee4067
@debamlyabanerjee4067 Жыл бұрын
@@TheeSecondSon i am a male my friend
@TheeSecondSon
@TheeSecondSon Жыл бұрын
@@debamlyabanerjee4067 ohh shitt dude! Forgive me 😅 anytime my brain sees “ya” on the ending of a name, it immediately thinks feminine for whatever reason haha .😆
@debamlyabanerjee4067
@debamlyabanerjee4067 Жыл бұрын
@@TheeSecondSon it's ok my friend 😊
@TheeSecondSon
@TheeSecondSon Жыл бұрын
@@debamlyabanerjee4067 like Arya, Tonya, Latoya, Maya etc. 🤣😆 so my bad truly haha
@30gargyraghunath14
@30gargyraghunath14 Жыл бұрын
And in GRRM's own words he had said that Jace is a worthy heir to the throne, he has proved his capability again and again (In fire and blood) .
@debamlyabanerjee4067
@debamlyabanerjee4067 Жыл бұрын
Jace is a bastard has no claim on the iron throne and why do you think he is worthy
@robertsmiley2207
@robertsmiley2207 Жыл бұрын
How many Targaryens gotta get cut up by this throne before replacing it with a less dangerous one started to make me think y'all slow the old king 👑 is the only one who was smart enough to bring in a different one
@yusufraage8554
@yusufraage8554 Жыл бұрын
Rheanyra was not cut by the throne its just the measters and they hate her.
@robertsmiley2207
@robertsmiley2207 Жыл бұрын
I never said she was cut by the throne pretty sure I was talking about her father if that was not clear 😎
@debamlyabanerjee4067
@debamlyabanerjee4067 Жыл бұрын
@@yusufraage8554 it was written by all 3 records
@foreverentertainment5356
@foreverentertainment5356 Жыл бұрын
I'm not team black or green but if i really have to choose. It's Black.They have done no harm to Alicent and the greens, As rhae said if war is to follow i will not strike first .So much honour and superior thinking right there 🥰
@UnbowedUnbentUnbroken93
@UnbowedUnbentUnbroken93 Жыл бұрын
Alicent and Helena are more valuable as hostages, similar to how Jaimie was to the North. Rhaenrya didn't let them live because she was honorable, rather because she wanted to quell the Green's forces from retaking KL.
@30gargyraghunath14
@30gargyraghunath14 Жыл бұрын
@@UnbowedUnbentUnbroken93 that might be true. If this was some situation like holding Sansa in KL and forcing Rob stark to bend the knee. I get that. But that's not the case. In the book Rhaenyra and her counsil knows that Aegon and Aemond will not bend the knee and sending them to the wall is not optional. So she has to kill them to keep her claim.But Helena and Allicent's lives were spared , and she did not use them as a leverage. She could have send word to Aegon or Aemond to do the same as Rob stark. But there is no point, and they won't surrender ,even if they could save them. Still Rhaenyra could have been cruel or tortured Helena ,nothing of this sorts was mentioned in the book. As it is in the book, She spared their life for the sake of her father who once loved them.
@abccompany9051
@abccompany9051 Жыл бұрын
@@UnbowedUnbentUnbroken93 Rhaenyra has no use for Helena and Allicent. And Aegon and Aemond could give a rats ass about her. Rhaenyra could have been like joffery and take her rage on her and allicent. She didnt. They were confined to their chambers, thats all. Its the greens own stupidity that caused all this pain and suffering to Helena and her kids.
@UnbowedUnbentUnbroken93
@UnbowedUnbentUnbroken93 Жыл бұрын
@@abccompany9051 depends on whose story you're going to believe, since even a super pro Black supporter like Mushroom states that Alicent and Helena were sent to a brothel as whores
@darkneko7514
@darkneko7514 Жыл бұрын
@@30gargyraghunath14 what about the burden queens
@christinasuozzo
@christinasuozzo 8 күн бұрын
Is this straight from the book ? Or is it predicted to be shown in the show ?
@DarkKing009
@DarkKing009 Ай бұрын
The Targaryen were leech Lords, landlords of a foreign people. Refusing to interact or breed with them to keep their blood pure from the commons. Jaehaerys the conciliator was the first true ruler of a people and not some landlord with a dragon
@abccompany9051
@abccompany9051 Жыл бұрын
All hail queen Rhaenyra.... The Rightful queen. Revenge you want will be yours in time. Lucerys shall be avenged!!
@chrisanderson7258
@chrisanderson7258 4 ай бұрын
To be fair, lawfully, and by precedent, Aegon is the rightful king of Westeros
@ty814
@ty814 2 ай бұрын
​@@chrisanderson7258To be fair kings word is law and lords submitted to Rhaenyra and bitch greens usurped the throne.😊
@fourth-dimensionalbeing9737
@fourth-dimensionalbeing9737 Ай бұрын
If that soft boy had lost an eye at Driftmark he wouldn't have become Vhagar's snack
@30gargyraghunath14
@30gargyraghunath14 Жыл бұрын
You cannot Tarnish her victory here. It doesn't matter how long she holds it . Rhaenyra Targaryen the first queen of Westeros will take her father's throne and be the first female ruler. She has achieved a huge win here.A win even Dany could not fullfill. And Alicent in the end will dispise her own decisions and the calamity she brought on her house and Above all will HATE the colour GREEN and die for nothing. Absolutely nothing. It's sad.
@abccompany9051
@abccompany9051 Жыл бұрын
So true your words here. Rhaenyra has every right to that throne and she is a better suited ruler than that rapist usurper Aegon.
@debamlyabanerjee4067
@debamlyabanerjee4067 Жыл бұрын
Rhanyra didn't become queen beacause she didn't had a legetemte coronation even rhanyra said that her self aegon has every bit of Legetemasy he was crwoned by highsepton in front of 1000 of people he wilds conquers crown and sword he enjoy the wealth of kingslanding, oldtown and Lannisport she was not crowned by highsepton not wild the stolen crown of old king according to both westros and valerian culture firstborn son will inherent everything like aegon the conquer also had a elder sister but aegon become king first Lord of dragonstone aenar targaryen also named his son as heir . According to your logic tristain truefire should be 7 th king of westros beacause he holds kingslanding for sometimes as well there is maintion about 17 targaryen kings not any queen
@30gargyraghunath14
@30gargyraghunath14 Жыл бұрын
@@debamlyabanerjee4067 I'm sorry your reply is full of spelling mistakes and errors , so I couldn't follow anything clearly. Can you correct it and try again so I may able to properly reply to this.
@higharchbishopofteatasting6217
@higharchbishopofteatasting6217 7 ай бұрын
​@@30gargyraghunath14Ohh the old blame the spelling when you get absolutely slaughtered in a debate, pitiful
@ty814
@ty814 2 ай бұрын
​@@higharchbishopofteatasting6217Slaughtered when? By that way Rhaenyras boys beat the shit out of Green in reality they were just kids didn't do anything cause they were also Kings.
@30gargyraghunath14
@30gargyraghunath14 Жыл бұрын
I'm not saying blacks are better than the greens. Especially when I know blood and cheese is comming next season and they would make brutal moves. But instead of justifying one party as right and superior,I try to see them in a grey territory. Which is how GRRM has intented. That said I align more with the blacks beacuse , Rhaenyra has never done any harm to ALICENT or her children. If she really wanted to she could have done some thing like a purple wedding in that 10 year gap,and try to kill Aegon or something. But she didn't. It was ALICENT who was going on like Oh God Rhaenyra is gonna kill my kids,blah,blah. When she had literally tried to marry her own kid to Helena to end this childish quarrels. But now because of Alicents and Aemonds stupidity that poor girl is gonna suffer. And my heart breaks for her.
@abccompany9051
@abccompany9051 Жыл бұрын
I agree with your point of view 👍
@30gargyraghunath14
@30gargyraghunath14 Жыл бұрын
@@abccompany9051 ❤️
@MagicHurdlez
@MagicHurdlez Жыл бұрын
Some of these comments sheesh being excited for Rhaenryras death is next level.
@TheeSecondSon
@TheeSecondSon Жыл бұрын
Lol. Im sure you’re not surprised that way more people are excited for Aegon’s death as the fandom is way more Blacks than Greens.
@MagicHurdlez
@MagicHurdlez Жыл бұрын
@@TheeSecondSon I'm not surprised really it was that comment that was basically a quote. Took me out lol great content as always
@TheeSecondSon
@TheeSecondSon Жыл бұрын
@@MagicHurdlez LOL! 😆appreciate you Naya! Thanks for tuning in as always !
@abccompany9051
@abccompany9051 Жыл бұрын
The greens started a war which they couldn't win. I only mourn for Helena and her kids. All the casualties. Rhaenyra in the book loved Helena and called her my sweet sister. They have been led astray by these evil men. Aemond chased Luke and killed him, now they must suffer the consequences.
@debamlyabanerjee4067
@debamlyabanerjee4067 Жыл бұрын
The whore of dragonstone started this by haveing bastards those bastards has claim she was going to kill all of them anyway. Aemond lost his eye that's why he killed that bastard luke rivers and greens won beacause aegon is known as king 👑 and rhanyra is known as traitor. Rhanyras calling helena sweet sister doesn't stopped her to kill helenas children that whore is a child killer. King aegon overed her terams her elder bastard can have dragonstone and 2nd bastard can have driftmark
@johnpotts8308
@johnpotts8308 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's the lesson we should take that one privileged Lady couldn't become more privileged. Nobody should weep for the thousands that died for a cause they had little choice in.
@marshalsunrise6582
@marshalsunrise6582 9 күн бұрын
Luke took aemonds eye and wasn't punished for it , his death was inevitable The throne belonged to aegon by birth and given the fact that rhaenyra was going to put her strong bastards on both the throne of driftmark and kings landing War was he only option
@holly-hobbiest3141
@holly-hobbiest3141 Жыл бұрын
@quickthot I have to day that the greens won by intolerance even though aegon iii is the last to sit on the throne
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