How Sylvanas JOINED The Jailer And Why? - Shadowlands spoilers

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How was Sylvanas recruited and why did she even join the Jailer?
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At the end of Battle for Azeroth we've seen that Sylvanas was insanely overpowered. However, as Shadowlands was announced and we saw the Shadowlands cinematic we could see that Sylvanas also just as easily overpowered Bolvar and destroyed the Lich King.
Then it was confirmed that she was working for the Jailer from the Maw, but only recently we actually learned when that happened.
We knew about the events from the Edge of Night story but now some details have been expanded upon. We've learned more about the purpose of the val'kyr, the purpose of the Lich King and why she even fought Bolvar in the first place to break the sky for the Shadowlands.
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@mbashasyed
@mbashasyed 3 жыл бұрын
Sylvanas pulling off an Illidan at the end of Shadowlands would be hilarious
@badfoody
@badfoody 3 жыл бұрын
Meh. Michael Chu left Blizzard hahaha
@lachtancesky5864
@lachtancesky5864 3 жыл бұрын
Illidan isn't death and he's not in The Shadowland. He has taken place as Sargeras prison-keeper
@laurensprins8177
@laurensprins8177 3 жыл бұрын
@@lachtancesky5864 Thats not what he means
@mbashasyed
@mbashasyed 3 жыл бұрын
@@lachtancesky5864 I meant her turning out to be working on the side of good all along and only acting bad
@TheHeartlessFour
@TheHeartlessFour 3 жыл бұрын
And lame
@X3MCTZN
@X3MCTZN 3 жыл бұрын
I am really interested in who is still following the lore but doesn't play the game?!
@wjgranger5
@wjgranger5 3 жыл бұрын
Me, but I will admit that I care less since Legion ended.
@joaopedro-un6tb
@joaopedro-un6tb 3 жыл бұрын
I still come to see the lore, but they retconn it soo much that i really dont care,just watch it out of curiousity/liking some content creator
@X3MCTZN
@X3MCTZN 3 жыл бұрын
@@wjgranger5 Same here, since Cataclysm ^^
@brandoncastellano1858
@brandoncastellano1858 3 жыл бұрын
I just play classic. Still reading the books and keeping up though.
@rohanofelvenpower5566
@rohanofelvenpower5566 3 жыл бұрын
Never even played lol. Dont even play table games like chess.
@rocko0214
@rocko0214 3 жыл бұрын
Man... now Bolvar looks even more badass.
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog 3 жыл бұрын
Next thing you know, Sylvanas will pull a Deadpool and break the Fourth Wall
@rocko0214
@rocko0214 3 жыл бұрын
She'll be calling the lazy writing. I dig it.
@sokiyelu1285
@sokiyelu1285 3 жыл бұрын
that's like, 16 walls!!
@Doronsmovies
@Doronsmovies 3 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind this video includes spoilers as we've learned a bit more information on the background of the Lich King and the Jailer-Sylvanas pact. What do you guys think is her ultimate goal though?
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog 3 жыл бұрын
First
@obmuw_syrad
@obmuw_syrad 3 жыл бұрын
@CountJimbo We've known for months that Sylvanas and the Jailer had some sort of pact. If you didn't know that until now maybe you shouldn't be subscribed to a lore channel.
@SKCandygirl
@SKCandygirl 3 жыл бұрын
her lore doesn't make sense if she doesnt go againts the jailor. She was mad at the lich king for his doings, and prolly figured out that it was Jailers doing all this time, and now gathers power by the jailor til the day she can strike back.
@horusksa1983
@horusksa1983 3 жыл бұрын
Because she has a “get out of jail free” card
@simpleman3898
@simpleman3898 3 жыл бұрын
I have a really random thought. You know how the warcraft live action movie i believe wasn't loved. I wonder if making a world of Warcraft anime would work. Looking at all the action animes out there i don't see why not. It's just a really interesting idea. Who wants an anime sylvanias vs her sisters? Meee :D
@afkljhddd
@afkljhddd 3 жыл бұрын
my guess is Sylvanas with find out the jailer is responsible for her and her ppls fall not Arthas, and then she will sacrifice herself to help the heroes end the jailers plan
@marinhrabric6162
@marinhrabric6162 3 жыл бұрын
Now that I think about it, it's possible that they're gonna pull the classic cliché, which would be sylvanas doing all this for the jailer because he promised her that if she brings him back to power he's gonna bring her sister/family back to life.
@SKCandygirl
@SKCandygirl 3 жыл бұрын
she has 2 important sisters, one works in dalaran. she is fine, the other charged towards the horde in the war againts human vs orcs, where she went through the portal. and in WoD we kinda see her again, where sylvanas tries to kill her sister so she may turn her into forsaken, in other words, all her carings are currently well and alive.
@Fuartianer
@Fuartianer 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to know how the Arbiter and the Jailor are connected. Especially their models. One has only an empty space where the heart should be and the Arbiter has only a heart. I think the betrayal is that the two beeings were once one and split up.
@MrDoze14
@MrDoze14 3 жыл бұрын
I am curious this just came to mind but how do immortal demon hunters work in regards to dying in the shadowlands as they are bound to the twisting nether?
@Fluvanna
@Fluvanna 3 жыл бұрын
She's not out to join the jailer. She's out to rek the fool. 1.) Burn the world tree, set loose a bunch of souls. 2.) Shatter the helm, letting loose all of the souls absorbed by it over the years. 3.) The bridge between material realm and shadowlands can't handle all those souls at once and is shattered. 4.) All those able to cross the maw help to rek the jailer. GG, Sylvanis hard carry.
@randomwiseguyonyoutube7406
@randomwiseguyonyoutube7406 3 жыл бұрын
One problem arthas
@button777777
@button777777 3 жыл бұрын
@@randomwiseguyonyoutube7406 I'll bet Arthas KS's the jailer like thrall did to deathwing and takes his place.
@randomwiseguyonyoutube7406
@randomwiseguyonyoutube7406 3 жыл бұрын
@@button777777 yep I bet my left nut
@simpleman3898
@simpleman3898 3 жыл бұрын
I have a really random thought. You know how the warcraft live action movie i believe wasn't loved. I wonder if making a world of Warcraft anime would work. Looking at all the action animes out there i don't see why not. It's just a really interesting idea. Who wants an anime sylvanias vs her sisters? Meee :D
@randomwiseguyonyoutube7406
@randomwiseguyonyoutube7406 3 жыл бұрын
@@simpleman3898 pretty cool
@seikouchan
@seikouchan 3 жыл бұрын
For all we know, Sylvanas may put a Gin (Bleach) stunt on the jailor. She is after the ultimate mastermind behind her plight.
@darkseidofapokolips9796
@darkseidofapokolips9796 3 жыл бұрын
I only have one qualm with Blizzard's move towards exploring the other planes of existence... The titans are the top of the arcane plane so to speak. Their power is nearly absolute and as such, their involvement in the story is very much in the background as it should be. Sargeras is a good example of this as well. We've known that he was in control of the BL for decades but didn't see him directly until legion. So why is the death pantheon so up front and personal? NPCs you can speak to and get quests from? They should be in the sky somewhere, just observing and pulling the strings. The one's we should be able to interact with directly should be the equivalent of titan watchers at most, and that's a stretch. Hopefully the void lords aren't given such peasant treatment.
@Thean10
@Thean10 3 жыл бұрын
I tend to agree on that. ...Well okay some could say that the foreshadowing of The Jailer happend with WC3: The Frozen Throne and WOTLK ...but yes it's a bit strange that the expansion is not even out yet, but we already know so much about theese cosmic figures. ...To build on that, my personal complainment about the concept of the Shadowlands itself is that although the idea sounds really great, from what I saw in videos, it feels too much ...well ...living. ^^ ...I mean it doesn't look the "otherside" enough. It just looks like some other planet or planets. And there is the Revendreth video. ...That place is basically a normal state with a corrupt (and kinda fascist) ruler and an actual economy based on anima ...I mean WTF^^ Is that really the afterlife? For me it's too ...mundane. ...But we shall see.
@danbernardes1726
@danbernardes1726 3 жыл бұрын
Well, the thing is that it's not "everyone" that is going to the Shadowlands and will get in contact with these cosmic forces. It's just a select number of characters and the Players, a.k.a. "the adventurers", are some of them. Lorewise it's not an invasion of Alliance and Horde armies, it's just a small rescue mission to recover the faction leaders. Many other characters in the lore like Illidan, Gul'dan, Medivh or Velen as well as the "adventurers" already had direct contact with, or at least have aknoledgement of these forces like the Titans or Void Lords. The Naaru are literally everywhere these days. Wild Gods? There's not much we don't know about these other realms unless they create something we don't know that rules over the Burning Legion or the Naaru etc. About the Shadowlands, we know Sylvanas is there, and now Tyrande, Jaina, Baine, Anduin and Thrall as well. If you strech things a bit, you can see they each represent: Death, Shadow, Order, Life, Light and Chaos. I think Sylvanas' plan is to take over the shadowlands to free herself, and as a consequence, us all, not the Jailer. It wouldn't make sense for her to willingly become a puppet for the guy who was behind the Lich King all the way. For the story, I think Blizzard is working to set those characters into becoming the respective leaders of those planes of existence, or at least as their representatives on Azeroth. Maybe 6 factions for WC4?
@darkseidofapokolips9796
@darkseidofapokolips9796 3 жыл бұрын
@@danbernardes1726 Dude the pantheon of the mortal plane is above interaction with mortals lol. They only did when it came time to seal Sargeras.
@darkseidofapokolips9796
@darkseidofapokolips9796 3 жыл бұрын
@@danbernardes1726 even seeing Sargeras took years. He had only really spoken to Illidan and Queen Ashara
@danbernardes1726
@danbernardes1726 3 жыл бұрын
@@darkseidofapokolips9796 yet you didn't get the point. We already have this power level to deal with Sargeras, we saw him put a sword in the world and get jailed by Illidan. Not every force of the chart is governed the same way, Chaos seem to be like a horde, Order is a council of elite beings, Light is a hivemind of Naaru, Life's got an animist pantheon, etc. You didn't get to see the Titans for a long time, but you had seen Naaru, Wild Gods, Old Gods etc for ages now. If you want to reset to being a mere mortal you start over at lvl 1.
@JioVega
@JioVega 3 жыл бұрын
It's kind of simple actually. Frostmourne is a sword thats imbued with the Maw. It corrupts souls. Sylvannas, or whats leftover of sylvannas , has been marked by frostmourne. Uther was also marked by the Maw when Arthas split his soul, but his Faith in the light saved him. If marked by frostmourne, the sword of the jailer, you have a direct link to the maw and are at risk for being corrupted
@kingj1337
@kingj1337 3 жыл бұрын
Clean video. Short and good. Well played
@throwmeaname
@throwmeaname 3 жыл бұрын
Sylvannas wants to rest, but recognize that she can’t due to the corruption of the jailer. So she gonna go to the shadowlands, clap the jailer so she can die in peace ✌️
@jontaylor4540
@jontaylor4540 3 жыл бұрын
This would make me bust
@ramky_editz
@ramky_editz 3 жыл бұрын
So the voice that told voljin to make sylvanas the warchief was the jailer?
@shadowfury200
@shadowfury200 3 жыл бұрын
because she got tired of nathanos simping so she wanted the BJC
@ottomanempire3574
@ottomanempire3574 3 жыл бұрын
3:20 legend boss
@SKCandygirl
@SKCandygirl 3 жыл бұрын
My theory is that she wanted arthas down and realized he was not the source, and now butters up to jailer to take revenge. Afterall she knows that her time and forsakens time is up with how valkyers are getting used.
@ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman
@ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman 3 жыл бұрын
Now the more important question, why did anyone just let her do this? This is some appeasement level of incompetence only they had the excuse that their countries simply werent ready for war, while the alliance had already defeated Garrosh before, wth
@PuttyPuppy
@PuttyPuppy 3 жыл бұрын
Since its blizard, it's probably a cliche thing like... "The LK didn't actually enslave me, the jailer did. So I'm doing all this to backstab the jailer - so all that bad I did was for a good reason, so I'm actually a good guy :D"
@RoxyDarkness
@RoxyDarkness 3 жыл бұрын
I think the jailer showed sylvanas a vision that made her join him and his plans and in legion the jailer had enough strength to tell vol'jin when he was dying that sylvanas should take his place as warchief and now everything is hell Damn we never get a break from war
@vanglor1144
@vanglor1144 3 жыл бұрын
The jailer is just Kel Thuzard
@zintosion
@zintosion 3 жыл бұрын
We could say, SHE WAS PREPARED!, when she was facing Bolvar.
@simonroswall3703
@simonroswall3703 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are some of the most entartaining, even for a casual WoW player. I haven't even watched it yet, I already know it gone be good tho.
@Doronsmovies
@Doronsmovies 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I really appreciate it. :)
@lachtancesky5864
@lachtancesky5864 3 жыл бұрын
She burned Teldrassil to stop N'zoth to get power. The world tree was source of regeneration for him. That's why the said, that sentence with wound and bleeding
@TheHeartlessFour
@TheHeartlessFour 3 жыл бұрын
No it wasn’t. It was cleansed of the Nightmare for years at that point. That assertion is nothing but speculation at this point.
@kongenerkasper
@kongenerkasper 3 жыл бұрын
She is clever, she has been death, a ghost, a banshee, to the maw, resurrected, gained immense power, killed Bolvar, Destroyed the lich king, opened the shadowlands, now she partnered with the jailer, because she knows, he his the mastermind behind her death and he is more powerful than her, so at the end of shadowlands, she might actually kill him and absorb his powers? So she becomes incredibly powerful and i think her grand plan is somehow to be able to ascend to be some of the most powerful in wow or possible even, to discover a way, she can return as a normal elf once again??!?!? who knows.
@YepMarko
@YepMarko 3 жыл бұрын
Sylvanas is good she found way to beat jailer but she needs to first do stuff for him, she will never be servant just because she want's after everthing. But she needs power to fight jailer and to dethrone him.
@terradraca
@terradraca 3 жыл бұрын
Are we now in full agreement that picking warchiefs cause "There's a prophecy man!" is a dumb idea and the horde should stop doing it?
@TheHeartlessFour
@TheHeartlessFour 3 жыл бұрын
They did. The Horde is now ruled by a council, with a representative of each race serving on it.
@Nitras7
@Nitras7 3 жыл бұрын
But it was a Primus who created Frostmourn and Helm of domination.
@williamcolon1891
@williamcolon1891 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly feel like she is pulling what Illidan had done except to a more personal level. If the Jailer is the one who created the Lich, then she owes the Jailer her vengeance truly rather than Arthas. This information makes Arthas a pawn in the game where her true punishment came from the Jailer. Her only hope is to not only gain power using the same tactic the Jailer is using, but also to have others fight him within the Shadowlands. Ultimately, the other realms would obviously band together against him and I think she knows that would be her best chance at finally getting her vengeance against the true orchestrator of her suffering.
@michaelwhatley
@michaelwhatley 3 жыл бұрын
Something doesn’t make sense... Jailer: Trapped in the Shadowlands by the Helm of Domination? If he was behind the making of the helm with the dread lords, why would he trap himself? Why would he need someone else to break it to rift between Azeroth? Did the dread lords trick him and imprison him and the Helm was the key? If he was tricked and imprisoned by the dread lords, how did he have so much influence over the Lich King? Why did they trick him / imprison him if so? If he wasn’t imprisoned at all, why did he need Sylvanas at all? Why did the Helm of Domination need to be broken at all? I feel the Helm was made to trap the Jailer. I feel the Lich Kings duty wasn’t only to control the scourge but to also keep Shadowlands at bay.
@brav0wing
@brav0wing 3 жыл бұрын
Convoluted retconing!
@shadyseeker9080
@shadyseeker9080 3 жыл бұрын
The Helm of Domination wasn't what Imprisoned the Jailor...the helm was key to weaken the veil between the realm of souls and the physical realm, neither of the "Lich Kings" did what the Jailor intended them to do because both Arthas and Bolvar held on, Bolvar a little more than Arthas but still Arthas denied the Jailor what he wanted, thus why he cut out his heart trying to remove that spark of Arthas that remained. The Pantheon of Death is who imprisoned the Jailor
@shadowgamer4306
@shadowgamer4306 3 жыл бұрын
How was the jailer contained when the helm was not present?
@shadyseeker9080
@shadyseeker9080 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowgamer4306 the helm has nothing to do with him being Imprisoned or contained, it was simply just a tool to weaken the veil, atleast as far as we know right now with the information given
@mr.authentic2505
@mr.authentic2505 3 жыл бұрын
I know for a fact Sylvanas is an Aquarius.
@aminbayat8742
@aminbayat8742 3 жыл бұрын
but sylva already said she wants to set alll free,coming of jailer was undeniable so she did it so that we can defeat him someway
@TheHeartlessFour
@TheHeartlessFour 3 жыл бұрын
N’Zoth said only he can save Azeroth, Sargeras said the only way to save the universe was to destroy it. What villains don’t try to lionize themselves? Just because she said she wants to “set us all free” doesn’t means she’s working for the greater good. You might want to start taking Pyromancer, and Accolonn with a grain of salt.
@user-pc7fn4qi9x
@user-pc7fn4qi9x 3 жыл бұрын
If the Jailer created The Lich King is that mean that Jailer kill Sylvannas? I got a feelings that Sylvannas is also plotting against the Jailer.
@PraiseJesus.
@PraiseJesus. 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Kil'Jaeden created the lich king? I don't remember any mention of the jailor before shadowlands either
@valentinrafael9201
@valentinrafael9201 3 жыл бұрын
Nerzhul was imprisoned by KJ. KJ “created” him more like “nominated “. It was never stated that KJ created frostmourne or the helm. As for Jailer being mentioned, the dark lord of the dead is being mentioned a couple of times since w3 ( hard to believe that demons like the dreadlords would call an imprisoned orc the dark lord of the dead )
@alkehol8
@alkehol8 3 жыл бұрын
Well if Sylva finds out Jailer was behind all of this, she could turn against him and rejoin us...
@Orrator900
@Orrator900 3 жыл бұрын
I’d rather want Sylvanas to die. She’s no longer a compelling character
@TheHeartlessFour
@TheHeartlessFour 3 жыл бұрын
No one would accept her help after what’s she’s done. The only way she would redeem herself in everyone’s eyes is to sacrifice herself to defeat the Jailer/Save Azeroth
@alkehol8
@alkehol8 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHeartlessFour it would be interesting, but I don't think they wouldn't accept her (not speakikng solely from the point of lore, but also blizzard)
@TheKobasen
@TheKobasen 3 жыл бұрын
After facing many discrimination from both faction she finally realized that in order for the world to accepted her, everyone should become the same race, and that is Undead.
@guido4999
@guido4999 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t makes sense that sylvanas works for the person who is responsible for her death, she should be hating him and fight him lol
@texanplayer7651
@texanplayer7651 3 жыл бұрын
Probably what she is planning to do
@jamesdominic9714
@jamesdominic9714 3 жыл бұрын
🤔🤔
@n0tfunnyHaHa
@n0tfunnyHaHa 3 жыл бұрын
Still love Sylvanas!
@ARoguesLife
@ARoguesLife 3 жыл бұрын
Even if this isn't where the story was going, I'll take this explanation until Blizzard contradicts it.
@jorgeherz3270
@jorgeherz3270 3 жыл бұрын
I guess azeroth souls has more anima, or he wouldn't be so focused on us. I mean there has to be other worlds with life, or maybe the burning legion succeded in annihilating the life in most of the universe...
@cristianoplay2023
@cristianoplay2023 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone is in the mall... Well, the jailor ll have some problems.
@Menhtrol
@Menhtrol 3 жыл бұрын
Arthas kills and enslaves Sylvanas in undead Sylvanas will stop at nothing to get vengeance on Arthas Arthas is killed and Sylvanas takes her own ''life'' Sylvanas is brought back in undead again Sylvanas leans that Arthas and the Scourge was being controlled by the Jailer Sylvanas joins the Jailer I'm i the only one thinking... THE FUCK?
@alexanderstormdahl2562
@alexanderstormdahl2562 3 жыл бұрын
So they retconned that Kil’Jaeden made the Lich King? Lame
@-_-Raziel
@-_-Raziel 3 жыл бұрын
WE ALL KNOW THE BALD ONE IS COMING
@-_-Raziel
@-_-Raziel 3 жыл бұрын
oh wait im bald too...
@unknowing5818
@unknowing5818 3 жыл бұрын
as always I get hyped by your video then get disappointed by how blizzard just botch their story in the end
@kunkka5
@kunkka5 3 жыл бұрын
nor is there any saint who could possibly have been if she had chosen ????
@sauronmordor7494
@sauronmordor7494 3 жыл бұрын
Top!
@paulmc875
@paulmc875 3 жыл бұрын
Is the jailer kneeling to slyvanas ?
@Mystery_Box-
@Mystery_Box- 3 жыл бұрын
She was a premium member on Patreon. True Story
@lcksowns
@lcksowns 3 жыл бұрын
i just wanna see tyrande vs sylvanas :(
@Lexipumpkin783
@Lexipumpkin783 3 жыл бұрын
After cataclysm a lot of stuff for her has been completely out of character. I hope they do some kind of redemption because she has never been straight up evil until recently. She has never made hasty decisions until recently. So I'm hoping maybe they tie it in to her trying to eliminate the jailer but I don't see that is happening
@opianista81
@opianista81 3 жыл бұрын
She has been out of character since the Frozen Throne. The end is going to be really cliche, Sylvannas removing the Jailor from power so she can finally rest, blizzard activision has lost its touch with a good lore already
@NP3GA
@NP3GA 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I have another question how Azeroth managed to defeat the burning legion no one no two but three times even especially in the two last times the legion is was on the pick of his power
@cc1210
@cc1210 3 жыл бұрын
Is Sylvannas like Uther? Is her soul also fractured? Would explain the poor attitude
@ThomasM-ed8wu
@ThomasM-ed8wu 3 жыл бұрын
I thought sargaras was was responsible for the lich king?
@TheHeartlessFour
@TheHeartlessFour 3 жыл бұрын
The Legion created the Lich King, and the Scourge as a tool to weak Azeroth. But the Helm of Domination and its magic is from the Maw
@kaelbeuk1
@kaelbeuk1 3 жыл бұрын
She's so badly written. Empathy for her died with Arthas, and we never got her motivations after that.
@simpleman3898
@simpleman3898 3 жыл бұрын
I have a really random thought. You know how the warcraft live action movie i believe wasn't loved. I wonder if making a world of Warcraft anime would work. Looking at all the action animes out there i don't see why not. It's just a really interesting idea. Who wants an anime sylvanias vs her sisters? Meee :D
@kaelbeuk1
@kaelbeuk1 3 жыл бұрын
@@simpleman3898 You'll have to tune down the anime bullshit to make it feel like Warcraft, but it could work. Something akin to Netflix's Castlevania maybe. Make it feel like the in-game cutscenes and we're good. (Of course a full CG movie in the vein of their intro cinematics would be gold, but it's probably asking for too much.)
@simpleman3898
@simpleman3898 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaelbeuk1 ya there CGI is really good. I know what you mean, that anime fan service. Ya it can get annoying at times. But i do love the giant battles that destroy everything. If WOW did that they would need to not hold back. There are so many cool spells to use. :D
@simpleman3898
@simpleman3898 3 жыл бұрын
Animes really do have coolest fight scenes :D
@kaelbeuk1
@kaelbeuk1 3 жыл бұрын
@@simpleman3898 Yeah, I'll take good writing over cool fight scenes any day (both idealy)
@TyroneMQ
@TyroneMQ 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong! Isn't it obvious? Sylvanas is pretending to work for The Jailer so she can kill him herself. The Jailer is the main cause on why she became an Undead.
@jamesdominic9714
@jamesdominic9714 3 жыл бұрын
🤔🤔
@TexasWarbird
@TexasWarbird 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with you about the plot twist. If anything that plot twist would make more sense imo. Cause having Slyvanas turn into this big bad evil character that supports the jailor to me doesn't make sense unless the jailor has twisted her views into his ways. It doesn't fit her personality and having her stay evil just turns the story into a generic Disney 'good vs evil' story trope. Her story at the end of ice crown still makes the most sense to me although I don't think she deserved the maw in the afterlife.
@StarInbound
@StarInbound 3 жыл бұрын
Her ultimate goal is to be the most satisfying raid boss kill ever. I call dibs on her bow!
@BakedBenis
@BakedBenis 3 жыл бұрын
nah we won't kill her and you can't have her bow
@archmagosdeciuskronen1501
@archmagosdeciuskronen1501 3 жыл бұрын
Blasphemy, the Dark Lady will purge thee!
@StarInbound
@StarInbound 3 жыл бұрын
@@archmagosdeciuskronen1501 Death to the Dark Lady. Glory to Hellscream!! Last true Warchief of the Horde!
@archmagosdeciuskronen1501
@archmagosdeciuskronen1501 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarInbound Hellscream is a man child with too much power for his britches!
@StarInbound
@StarInbound 3 жыл бұрын
@@archmagosdeciuskronen1501 Hellscream was a war general who tried to return the Horde back to its root, the orcish Horde.
@ayethe4603
@ayethe4603 3 жыл бұрын
No No garrosh would have burned it first
@ScarlettSpitfyre
@ScarlettSpitfyre 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that there are so many people that don't see what BlizzActivision are doing it. Sylvanas will have the same arc as Kerrigan in Starcraft. It's obvious! Real Blizzard is gone and they were not that George RR Martin level of foreshadowing in the first place to plan this. There was no master plan, only make up as they go. I really can't believe there are still fans that don't see this and that they feel amazed at what Blizzard/Activision story is doing...
@darksamurai6
@darksamurai6 3 жыл бұрын
What about when lord godfrey killed sylvanas, I remember someone saying that she became more brutal after, almost like she had become a different person.
@masteroftheassassins
@masteroftheassassins 3 жыл бұрын
Sylvannus needs to be put down permanently.
@Hunter-rr5ue
@Hunter-rr5ue 3 жыл бұрын
Would really like to see Arthas kill her again just to piss her off xD
@pixelgun4789
@pixelgun4789 3 жыл бұрын
Does not matter why... I WILL STILL HATE HER FOR WHAT SHE HAVE DONE! I DO NOT CARE IF SHE HAS A PLAN!
@brav0wing
@brav0wing 3 жыл бұрын
Horrible, horrible storyline for Sylvanas and the Lich King. I mean, the tons of retcons done to fit this Jailor into the whole Lich king lore is just pathetic. And what Blizz did to Sylvanas is just unforgivable.
@shadyseeker9080
@shadyseeker9080 3 жыл бұрын
They aren't retcons, its new information and more details on events that were poorly described and poorly executed. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean its bad or a retcon. YOU just don't like it because of personal feelings and that's perfectly fine
@williampaulsinghharika2627
@williampaulsinghharika2627 3 жыл бұрын
What they did to Sylvanas? Sylvanas has ever been evil since Arthas turned her. Just she was useful evil as she was able to do what no other horde leader dared due to their living moral and ethics.
@IxROBSTERIx360
@IxROBSTERIx360 3 жыл бұрын
She will betray the Jailer, mark me words
@shinigami1190
@shinigami1190 3 жыл бұрын
In fact rewatching shadowlands cinematic we can see that when sylvanas is talking about the crown is watching the gem on it and not Bolvar, as she was speaking with another entity. The fact that the helm seems of the jailer in first place (checking the shadows behind sylvanas in shadowlands trailer) make me think that what helm sees is seen by jailer too. The last words of sylvanas are: this world is a prison. And how is called the main villan of shadowlands? Jailer. Another point is that from collector edition we know that he want the crown intact meanwhile she brake it. Other than this wich reason could be in jailer favor to open a portar where the greatest heros of azeroth can go through to kick his ass? I think that sylvanas is playing as double agent from the end pf wotlk
@IxROBSTERIx360
@IxROBSTERIx360 3 жыл бұрын
@@shinigami1190 Very True
@robinpowa1
@robinpowa1 3 жыл бұрын
lets kill sylvanas and make arthus new leader of undead
@kajtas4790
@kajtas4790 3 жыл бұрын
Can i get a liek for being so early brother
@deviouscarma
@deviouscarma 3 жыл бұрын
Wow is going down the drain so fucking fast lmao, even the lore is turning ridiculous.
@user-ww3ys4ix2z
@user-ww3ys4ix2z 3 жыл бұрын
Those stories that Blizzard keeps coming up with are total trash. Stretched too thin, lack of depth and gravity to them. They've butchered many of the warcraft characters this way. It was such an enjoyment to play this game years back.
@caffemocca8855
@caffemocca8855 3 жыл бұрын
Was Vanilla and BC better? No. The newer stories are actually better, but lore had been trash since the start of WoW.
@caydenhoward273
@caydenhoward273 3 жыл бұрын
boohoo. youtube loves the complaining
@simpleman3898
@simpleman3898 3 жыл бұрын
I have a really random thought. You know how the warcraft live action movie i believe wasn't loved. I wonder if making a world of Warcraft anime would work. Looking at all the action animes out there i don't see why not. It's just a really interesting idea. Who wants an anime sylvanias vs her sisters? Meee :D
@rippspeck
@rippspeck 3 жыл бұрын
All those people screaming retcon must be new to WoW. It has happened before and it will happen again. It's actually called worldbuilding.
@Troller235
@Troller235 3 жыл бұрын
They're literally retconning old lore to squeeze the jailor into the Lich King story wdym
@Q8Bart
@Q8Bart 3 жыл бұрын
Sylvanas: I wanna be your senpai, Jailer ;)
@lostcrusader8053
@lostcrusader8053 3 жыл бұрын
I’m very cautious where this is going. While I’m looking forward to see Shadowlands and the natives living there. However, I’m concerned with the story especially Sylvanas. I find her irredeemable especially what’s been happening with the innocent souls going straight to the Maw. I hope we get to kill her or receive any kind of punishment. But knowing Blizzard, I’m afraid that won’t be the case.
@simpleman3898
@simpleman3898 3 жыл бұрын
I have a really random thought. You know how the warcraft live action movie i believe wasn't loved. I wonder if making a world of Warcraft anime would work. Looking at all the action animes out there i don't see why not. It's just a really interesting idea. Who wants an anime sylvanias vs her sisters? Meee :D
@jesserothhammer7378
@jesserothhammer7378 3 жыл бұрын
She doesn't need to be redeemed because she did nothing wrong
@raizarslaxterhaha
@raizarslaxterhaha 3 жыл бұрын
Dude. Garrosh did nothing wrong
@TheHeartlessFour
@TheHeartlessFour 3 жыл бұрын
Always funny how the rallying cry for Garrosh fanboys is derived from a 4chan troll campaign about Hitler
@kiiima94
@kiiima94 3 жыл бұрын
First
@Gergentine
@Gergentine 3 жыл бұрын
This games lore needs a HARD reset... like fuck, just skip 50 years ahead and make in game characters forget what happened idc... sooooooooooo many plot holes.....
@ricardobrands9736
@ricardobrands9736 3 жыл бұрын
Clickbait title. Both questions arent answerd
@Mrdevilquesvoce
@Mrdevilquesvoce 3 жыл бұрын
IIts good game but my machine is outdated.... #stopmakinwowsocostly
@Neonic246
@Neonic246 3 жыл бұрын
Just buy a non potato and u are fine
@1chelseafanatic1
@1chelseafanatic1 3 жыл бұрын
I know you have to make money my dude but I’ve noticed a fair few of your videos are sponsored by Gamivo.com which are notoriously dodgy and are known to take money away from legitimate game developers. Just as a warning to people thinking about using the service make sure you do your research first. Hopefully as you grow you’ll get access to less morally questionable advertisements.
@Lukehk6775
@Lukehk6775 3 жыл бұрын
Because bad writing
@LeeRenthlei
@LeeRenthlei 3 жыл бұрын
Getting really annoyed with this Mary Sue
@Bearzerk330
@Bearzerk330 3 жыл бұрын
Creation of a feminist Blizzard Developer.
@user-ww3ys4ix2z
@user-ww3ys4ix2z 3 жыл бұрын
You called it.
@rippspeck
@rippspeck 3 жыл бұрын
stwong woman bad :(
@MrMaxenen11
@MrMaxenen11 3 жыл бұрын
Sylvanas is such a boring character.
@MrMaxenen11
@MrMaxenen11 3 жыл бұрын
@SSJ3MJ Illidan.
@myronshields8642
@myronshields8642 3 жыл бұрын
So this is just 6 mins or saying nothing?
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