HP Omen 30L OEM RTX 3090 Thermal Pad Upgrade

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3 жыл бұрын

First, a shout out to Thoriated Flash whose video gave me a first look inside the card and advised using 1mm thermal pads instead of 1.5mm pads as recommended in videos for the 3090 FE and other cards. Please see his video for more disassembly details, he also has some great advice in his comments.
This video shows the process I used to upgrade my HP OEM 3090 card to eliminate the thermal throttling issue the card was having.
While a little scary, because it’s such an expensive card and they’re so damn hard to get, if you’re familiar with electronics and you take your time, the entire process is quite simple.
If you’re a complete newb, you can still do this... but be warned, you can also severely damage your card. Proceed at your own risk. Make sure you have an anti-static work surface, and anti-static grounding strap and touch the chips and card components as little as possible. Even the tiniest of electrostatic discharges can damage electronics and you may not even feel it (I know from experience).
To complete this project, I used;
Two (2) Thermalright 1mm thermal pads www.amazon.com/dp/B08CGL7MLN?...
One (1) tube of Thermalright TF8 Thermal Compound Paste www.amazon.com/dp/B07K442WXV?...
Tools - I ordered the kit below which was a bit overkill, all I really used out of it was the PH0 screw driver, the exacto knife, the anti-static grounding strap and the spatula like tools to gently remove the old thermal paste on the card. www.amazon.com/dp/B07FZW4K5D/...
Miscellaneous - Isopropyl alcohol, Q-tips and an anti static cloth to clean off the old thermal compound.
Proceed carefully, ask questions and watch as many videos as you can find for advice.
Good luck!

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@NikolaTheTraveller 2 жыл бұрын

I just did the thermal pads replacement + added some thermal paste, and got -10° on VRAM temperatures! I plan also to try adding the heat sink on the top of the backplate, and see if I can decrease temperature even more. Make sure you are using 1mm pads, I tried first with 1.5 and it was too thick Thanks for the video

@ilmariylitalo8427 3 жыл бұрын

The very key to this project is that extra paste you put in between the black metal shroud and the main heatsink. Skip that and you might get some minor improvement but the real issue is that the shroud over the rams is not making proper contact with the main heat sink. Pads are too thick to put there, so paste is needed. Be generous, and figure out where the shroud and heat sink actually meet for best contact and thermal transfer. You know you've done it right if you get massive decrease in memory temps and increased heat in your core. The mems heat up the main heat sink and increase core thermals a bit but it's just fine anyway.

@bobwire6440 3 жыл бұрын

Your exactly right that is what i was seeing and thought somethings wrong was going to tear it back apart and apply more thermal paste to gpu . Thank You for the heads up.. FYI I went from 52c Core 100c vram to 60c Core and 86c vram with a small fan blowing into case also added the heat sink with thermal pads going to try a blower style fan blowing across GPU to back case exhaust fan.

@ilmariylitalo8427 3 жыл бұрын

@@bobwire6440 I'm just running without side panel. The airflow of the case is so bad no matter what you do. It's a shame, with a little thought put into it it would be a very very pretty little case. As is, it's just impossible to make it have enough airflowe to high tier CPU and GPU

@caveyss 2 жыл бұрын

I have done as instructed on the video and still maxing out at 107 MHs. Afterburner set to -375 Core and +1200 Mem.

@mattman2216 2 жыл бұрын

What about .5mm copper shims?

@li1152 2 жыл бұрын

Just tried to reapply thermal paste and thermal pads for my HP omen 30L but got a huge decrease in hashrate and the temperature didn't decrease. What did I do wrong? I think I applied too much thermal paste

@samiam9059 3 жыл бұрын

Very glad I am so happy with my 3060..... would not be to happy to have to do that. Especially at the cost of the card. Glad it was an improvement.

@jimbob9086 3 жыл бұрын

Lay a 120mm fan on the backplate blowing down, it'll drop junction temp a few more degrees. Ideally a high static pressure fan but any fan will do

@coolsheet420 3 жыл бұрын

just got this computer too....runs super hot (102-106 with case open).... def will be replacing pads and see what happens, but so far I took it apart to confirm 1mm pad size, and decided to add a little Artic Silver I had laying around, to the GPU and to the radiator plate like you did. My temps have dropped 6-8c from this ALONE!!! wow. I've also seen some vids on adding heatsinks to the back plate. I'll be doing that too. I'll update the results.

@coolsheet420 3 жыл бұрын

Added two 100x40x20mm heatsinks to the backplate, no thermal tape or anything.... just layed on it. Got another 2c drop. Will add thermal pads when they come in, and thermal tape to the heatsinks. And probably a fan pulling air off the heatsinks. I will report back.

@coolsheet420 3 жыл бұрын

Update## I installed 1mm thermal pads..... temps went up!!! wtf. Redoing the 1mm pads has increased my temps back up to 106c. I took back apart to make sure I didn't miss anything, but I'm not seeing anything obviously wrong.

@tonysanchez3290 3 жыл бұрын

That seems crazy! I’ve been considering adding a heat sink to the back of my card as well. I took a processor heat sink w/fan from an old computer and I just need a cable splitter for the fan. It may be a week or two before I get around to playing with this... work, work, work and no time for fun projects.

@johnsabilla5897 2 жыл бұрын

wow, big improvement!

@D8361- 3 жыл бұрын

I put two fans on top of the back plate for pulling, one on side to pull, one below the card for inhaust, one on top of the case for exhaust with the card’s fan running at 85% and it reports 96-98c on room temperature of 52f. I guess you can try to put at least one fan on the back plate(close to the rear where it’s hot) for pulling and the temperature may drop by a significant level.

@tonydelaney9417 3 жыл бұрын

Glad I found this vid, I found the other vids for aftermarket cards, but this one is exactly what I need! So I made the changes and put everything back together (used 1.5mm pads) and now my GPU temps are too high, with OEM pads I was at 46.8/49.1/48.3 degrees (Min/Max/Avg), then after the mod I was at 71/71.8/71.5 degrees. I noticed the back plate is a little elevated and it doesnt sit all the way like it used to, anyone else run into this??

@steph66h 3 жыл бұрын

use 1mm like in the video then.

@theothercrazybrian 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude!

@yair556 3 жыл бұрын

The backplate seems to be metal but covered in plastic. Do you think swapping it out for another FE board metal backplate is possible? Then attaching additional heatsinks to the back of the card?

@hayderyas1835 3 жыл бұрын

good job , I will try to do the sam if you recommend

@omegaz101 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video but can you please show the full video taking apart the gpu Also links where you got the thermo pad and tools I will really appreciate since I am a little bit nervous Since I have never done something like that before and I have 2 3070s Hp 25L omens , 1 3080 hp 30L and one 3090 coming And tests will help me a lot

@tonysanchez3290 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kudos. For a more details on the disassembly, please take a look at ThoriatedFlash’s video. His video is what I used to fully understand what I was getting myself in to; kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n5qWqM9qyse6g4U.html For links to the pads, paste and tools please check the video description.

@nikitautkin1785 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video. After thermal pad upgrade my memory temp went from 110 to 95C, but my GPU went from 65 to 85-87. Could it be due to additional thermal paste that I applied on copper plate (as on your video at 3:48)? Is it possible that this extra heat is coming from memory to GPU?

@blakeracerr899 3 жыл бұрын

yes

@Steven-mg2vi 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think so

@dannyinformal 2 жыл бұрын

were 2 packges of gelid thermal pads enough? Did you test the settings after making adjustments?

@woodnotemusix 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the guide.. My gpu was 67c, 108-110c junction. Did a thermal pad upgrade, it definitely helped vram, 98c, but my gpu is 80c. I had to mess with my thermal paste a couple of times as it was throttling clock speeds. Is it possible the heat dissipated from vram to heatsink is causing gpu stay hot? Is mining at 80c fine? I only get 105mh too..

@sadistical5787 3 жыл бұрын

I read this from an amazon user - Scenario 2 : Same as first, except when you test your gpu you get good Memory Junction Temps, but your GPU and Hotspot Temps are elevated. This problem occurs when there is an even distribution of pressure on the thermal pads, as the Memory Junction Temps are low, but the Heat Sink is not making proper contact with the gpu, causing the GPU Temps to rise. The solution to this problem is almost the same as above, with a few exceptions. First, check the backplate screws. Again, this solution may be just this simple, and yes, this happened to me twice on the 3080's. The first time i tore the card down, and put it back together and it worked fine. During the tear down, i noticed that two of the spring screws(M2x7mm) were fairly loose. When I put it back together, I didn't make anymore thermal pad changes, just double checked that the backplate screws were tightened properly. On the first test, GPU Temps were at 46 C, and Mem Junc Temps at 76 C... Perfect. On the second 3080, I was getting the same problem, and before tearing it down i double checked the screws, and sure enough one was loose. Tightened the screw and temps dropped immediately. Now, if you check the backplate/heatsink screws, and they are all tight, then you may have a second problem. This problem will be that all of the pads on either the back side of the card, or the front side of the card, or both, are too thick. If the memory temps are all low, but the gpu temps are high, then the thickness of the new thermal pads may be too thick, and the heatsink is not making contact with the gpu. This scenario is different from the first one, because in this scenario the new thermal pads are making even contact with the memory. For that reason, you would need to change all the thermal pads so that you can continue to get that even distribution of pressure on the thermal pads. Just as a tip, if your gpu temps are extremely high, then take off a mm from the thermal pad thickness, if the temps or only slightly elevated, then replace the thermal pads with a thermal pad that's only 0.5mm less thick. For example, if you have 2mm pads, and the temps are extremely high, then replace the 2mm pads with 1mm pads. If its only moderate, then replace the 2mm pads with 1.5mm pads. This is also making the assumption that you applied the thermal paste on the gpu die properly. This, too, can be the problem.

@corvette72778 3 жыл бұрын

Before the pads you had the fan at 100, temp 106. After the pads you had the fan at 31, temp 100. But what's the temp after the pads when the fan is at 100?

@tonysanchez3290 3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm. I didn’t notice that error! I’m going to have to go look at my rig tomorrow...

@johnpreston230 2 жыл бұрын

@@tonysanchez3290 so??? what happened???

@blakeracerr899 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video man, I just put my 3090 omen card together this morning to test. I am using TRex miner & my Memory temperature is stable at 86C @ 119MH with your OC settings. My only concern with your process is the chips you added thermal pads to is not allowing for good contact from the copper plating to the black plate. The difference in our temperature may also be the mining software. Would love to hear your thoughts.

@tonysanchez3290 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That was my first ever video. I’m still wondering myself about those two chips I added pads to last minute. I’m thinking in a week or two, I may take it apart again and remove them and see what happens. I’m relatively new to mining and haven’t tried TRex miner yet, I want to get away from NiceHash but time is scarce and NH was quick and easy... any tips for TRex?

@blakeracerr899 3 жыл бұрын

@@tonysanchez3290 Trex is optimized for 30 series gpu's. You could download Trex and try it for free even without making a wallet, say with coinbase. It is simple to run. I didnt mean to word it as if your card could perform better for certain or there is a problem. Just wanted to share my temps, interestingly my hot spot temp is 5c hotter than yours.

@tonysanchez3290 3 жыл бұрын

@@blakeracerr899 Well, I couldn’t leave well enough alone... I took apart the card again to check coverage on those two chips I added pads to. The pads were making good contact with the frame, so no trouble there. I replaced the pads and thermal paste again (without covering those 2 chips) and now the damn card is running a couple degrees hotter. I also noticed that all the chips made a nice indent on the new pads, except for the long strip in the middle of the black frame, there was barely any impression on the pads. I’ll be taking it apart again to cover those two chips again and if there is little/no impression on that long strip again, I’m going to try a 1.5mm pad there. Stay tuned!

@lagrafx 3 жыл бұрын

What thickness pads did you use please?

@Mariffin Жыл бұрын

@@lagrafx 1mm

@Steven-mg2vi 3 жыл бұрын

Hey I have the same computer did you find out a way to have the system fans running 24/7 at 100%?

@tazztone Жыл бұрын

2:20 some on reddit commented to absolutely put a pad where the square indent is on the backplate to see temp reductions across the board (GPU and VRAM) by fixing pressure distribution? will try my luck as soon as i have my hp 3090

@deokyeoncho9668 3 жыл бұрын

hello. Thanks for your video. I have several questions. * I have 30L-0850 Series / 3080 Geforce Card. Is 3080 using the Thermal-Pad 1mm ??

@Steven-mg2vi 3 жыл бұрын

I believe so

@joseescobar-lq3vf 2 жыл бұрын

it decrease the memory junction temperature , but why do you think when doing this the GPU Temperature and the GPU Hot Spot temperature increases dramatically around 15 and 20 C each? are we just distributing the heat or should we worry about some device temperature control isolated?

@DomZhao 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Tony, for the back plate, how did you take out these 2 spring screws? They are different size compare to the 4 CPU rear spring screws, I tried to take them out and almost stripped them. what size screw driver should I use

@Dannyp010 6 ай бұрын

Bit late now but im having the exacft same issue... Like i tried to get them out the normal way with 'brute'force (without braking things i hope) but it didnt came out.... gonna but some very very small amount of WD40 inside the screw so it losens the thread (i hope). Not sure what else to do. Already tried to put something that has more grip between my screwdriver and the screw itself but again... no movement. May i ask if you ended up getting them out eventhough its over a year ago? lol. Thanks

@li1152 2 жыл бұрын

Can adding too much thermal paste to the heatsink cause an increase in temperature?

@sadistical5787 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for uploading this video. I have an Omen 30l, with the 3080. Any idea what thickness of thermal pads I need?

@lagrafx 3 жыл бұрын

I tried 3mm and 2mm today. Both too thick. Will try 1mm on Monday.

@maalisl 3 жыл бұрын

@@lagrafx hey could you let me know what worked for you, please? I also have the same HP 3080 OEM

@sadistical5787 3 жыл бұрын

@@maalisl I believe they are mostly 1 inch pads

@maalisl 3 жыл бұрын

@@sadistical5787 yeah I got 1mm pads and Noctua NT-H1. Now my GPU does not go over ~70C anymore!

@adam2eden 2 жыл бұрын

Is the power connector standard ATX or smaller with an HP adapter?

@alecnguyen838 3 жыл бұрын

Put any pads between the copper plate and the frame? I've seen other people do it with other versions of the 3080. But why use the paste?

@lagrafx 3 жыл бұрын

I tried this and it created enough of a gap that the gpu no longer reached the copper. Paste is the best I think because the copper winds up so close when you put the screws back in.

@Gotingenli 2 жыл бұрын

Hi everyone, i did put only thermal paste between cooler and the black metal plate and had more then 30 kelvin difference. The OEM thermal pads seems to be good.

@ParlasWOW Жыл бұрын

What are your hotspot temps? I go to 105 rn don't know if i should repad or just do the thermal paste on the metal

@Gotingenli Жыл бұрын

@@ParlasWOW no, dont change the pads, do it like i did and you are fine. İ had 110 now it dropped to 80.

@Gotingenli Жыл бұрын

@@ParlasWOW between the cooler block and the metal black frame is a little gap, this one is causing a problem and your heattransfer is blocked. Fill it with thermalpaste and you are fine.

@ParlasWOW Жыл бұрын

@@Gotingenli ok cool, thanks bro

@cocoalove1071 Ай бұрын

Could you tell me the total length of this GPU?

@pfc4688 3 жыл бұрын

I changed pads on 2 of these 1 got down from 108 to 98-100 and the other one from 110 to 94 with 65 % fanspeed, im not sure why so big difference but on the one i got to 94c i put the pads on the wrong side, i actually put them ln the black row 3:04 and nothing ob the long memory next ro it, could have been a secret hack just saying lol

@tonysanchez3290 3 жыл бұрын

Whoops! That is interesting though! Makes you wonder...

@florinlobonea266 Жыл бұрын

Try using copper pads. I will get lower temps.

@phrzy 3 жыл бұрын

i have the 3070 model, is it the same process?

@jimbob9086 3 жыл бұрын

3070 uses gddr6, only cards with gddr6x have overheating issues. 3070 is an awesome card all around

@Leo-yn5fx 3 жыл бұрын

This is fucking ridiculous i have to go through so much for a pc. Its why i took all weekend an made a complete swap with the 3090 included. Temps are SOLID NOW!

@lagrafx 3 жыл бұрын

What thickness pads did you use?

@evanluu7545 3 жыл бұрын

how much was the prebuilt? what are the specs besides the 3090

@tonysanchez3290 3 жыл бұрын

Way too much! But I’m still glad I bought it and I thought it was a fair deal for a prebuilt. I will say that there was a decent promo code on the forums. Always search for promo codes!

@nikitautkin1785 3 жыл бұрын

I got mine (just to get video card) for $2500 before tax. That is for i5-10600, 16GB, 512SSD, 750W PSU. Microcenter recently had i9-10850K, 32GB, 1TB SSD, 750W PSU for $3000. These HP Omens are not really made for 3090. Very poor cooling system in the case, i9 and 3090 want 850W, not 750W. And HP motherboards are very basic. I couldn't play GTA V on ultra (3440x1440) without getting 110C on memory with my Omen. I wouldn't recommend high-end Omens.

@gerrylane3570 3 жыл бұрын

Question is that a reference 3090?

@lordofchaosiori 3 жыл бұрын

No it’s HP OEM.

@caveyss 2 жыл бұрын

I have done as instructed on the video and still maxing out at 107 MHs. Afterburner set to -375 Core and +1200 Mem. Got 61c on GPU temp and 90 on mem temp. Any help will be appreciated.

@amitoz5589 2 жыл бұрын

Try -250 with 1230 Mem And pl of 96-90