was season 2 entertaining yes? but season 1 was written so well and every character’s story was so interesting in season 1. this season felt like a reality tv with everyone waiting for maddy to find out about cassie and nate

Sam literally sat down and was like "well the show is about teens and drugs so I guess I'll keep Rue, but I really wanna write about a middle aged gay man and his insane son. Also Cassie is hot."

Cassie’s “I’m a villain”speech is euphoria’s “I’m weird I’m a weirdo” moment

beyond the horribly inconsistent plot, character arcs, and pacing of this show, my actual biggest problem with it is how it focuses much more on abusers and their backstories and reasonings than on their victims and the trauma they inflict without a second thought. the abuse maddy (and jules honestly) has experienced at the hands of nate is so swept under the rug it's honestly disturbing.

more on maddy's trauma and humiliation: the only reason nate went to go get the tape back from maddy was because he felt that she was going to leak it, and the reputation of the family would be tarnished. the show literally told us he's planning on inheriting the family business, and that couldn't happen with the tape out there. so why, cut to two episodes later, he's willingly giving that tape to the cops? that russian roulette scene was just there for shock value and to further traumatize maddy.

Cassie's storyline is what men think Daddy issues look like and it is just embarrassing

i feel like the season finale was so .... anti climactic. There were so many plot lines they tried to wrap up in within such a short amount of time and it just felt.... off

elliot was so pointless. they literally could’ve broken Rue and Jules up the same way without him in the equation-have Rue still lie about doing drugs, Jules finds out on her own and tells Rue’s mom… same exact outcome

the amount of trauma maddy went through this season was so unnecessary. like why is maddy always assaulted and betrayed?? (ik it’s cuz she’s a woc but it’s still unnecessary)

I need HBO to force sam to have co-writers because he only knows how to write rue, and that's about it.

Sam Levinson threw away character development, forgot storylines completely and gave us an incomplete season. A season should be comprehensive with beginning, middle and end so people saying we will continue in s3 a lot of these plot points could’ve been resolved or at least set up for s3. Especially when they had Elliot singing for 20 mins in the finale, and the last 2 episodes were a play rehashing things we already saw in season 1. In conclusion Sam needs a writers room and therapy.

I think Sam found his muse in Sydney Sweeney and he just wanted to focus on her. Rue is him working through his former addiction, so she's safe. But besides those two and the Jacobs, for some reason, Sam couldn't care less about every other plotline.

Sam is king of doing something traumatic and then acting like it never happened

This season was definitely nothing but fillers and thats why it felt like we got nowhere. The loooong and uncomfortable love and driving scenes between Cassie and Nate, Cal driving drunk for an entire episode, constant replay of Rue at her dad’s funeral, and Elliott singing in the middle of chaos. The theme was aesthetics and no plot, just waiting for fillers to be over so we can get back to the important stuff. 🤦🏾‍♀️

This season was entertaining. But what was the purpose? What did we learn? So much was left unfinished, there not even plot holes just lose ends. Sam Levison is a menace and someone needs to take that pen out of his hand, except when he’s writing rue.

Sam Levinson had 2 years to write and still gave us nothing?? The only person who had an ok storyline was Rue? This is why you flesh out all your characters during the first season.

sam kind of destroyed cassie's character. i know its understandable that she craved validation from men in her life but he made her so unlikeable in her pursuit of "love" i genuinly hated her character. it makes me sad because she was quite complex in the first season. + cassie's nudity was so unnecessary

Amanda defends Jules is giving me LIFE. Sick of people that hate on and villainize her on the internet

Looking back this season was such a frickin mess. Rue hands down had the best storyline and I hope Zendaya wins another Emmy. I am actually predicting a big cast overhaul in season 3 especially considering how some of the women have called Sam out for his weirdness, and rumors of actors wanting to leave. I do hope that HBO and some of the production companies involved encourage Sam to get more writers in here cause he's showing himself to be a messy unprofessional prick.

I love that Amanda feel for Jules instead of villainizing and hating on her like a bunch of people in the internet. This girl is 17 and beside is a victim of bad writing. She does not deserve the treatment she got in the show and in the public reaction at all

They were saying that the Nate and Cassie plot line was originally supposed to be Nate and Jules, and I fear Nate and Jules would of made way more sense than what we got with Cassie and Nate . This also leads me to believe the script did get changed multiple times and was rushed .

It’s kinda blowing my mind how many people missed the fact that RUE KNOWS THEY SLEPT TOGETHER!!! She realized during the intervention, that’s why her whole attitude shifted after looking at their guitly faces. “Oh I see what’s going on here”….she flat out said that. She knew.

He turned Cassie into a crazy men lover but she had her reasons in season 1. In season 2, she felt completely out of it in a way that wasn't realistic.... the rest was just bad

Everything Sam wrote this season just seemed lazy or lacking in creativity. Not giving Jules or Kat a proper storyline. The conventionally attractive blond, big boobed white girl soaking up all the screen time. Like all Kat's scenes were written out, yet Sam had the time to change Fez's death to Ash actually dying (confirmed in an interview). Next season 100% needs a writers team, because sam maybe a talented film director, but the reason his films/tv series are lacking is because of his horrible writing.

Sam Levinson can't be the only one writing the episodes if he wants S3 to be anywhere near decent. S2 was entertaining but lbr there were some episodes that felt so filler.

I’ll say it once and I’ll say it twice. Girlie Cassie need some character development real quick 🏃🏽‍♀️💨.She’s either crying or naked or both 🤷🏽‍♀️

How does Kate and McKay go from having full episodes in season 1 to being side characters in season 2?

*it honestly feels like Sam wasn't prepared to write a season 2. Like he didn't think this show would get as big as it did and just started to panic-write shit he thought would be shocking yk? He probably planned on euphoria being a limited series with one season only, but knew a season 2 would be an easy cash grab*

sam levinson set jules tf up this season. she had such an interesting and intriguing special episode and i thought we were really gonna see growth for jules and i was excited to see her on a new self-journey in season 2. but NO, instead he made her a side character and ruined her entire storyline (for WHAT???). he needs to give hunter that fucking pen back because this is ridiculous

TIME STAMPS: 1:21- Elliot 8:06- Gia 10:22- Kat 17:12- Maddy 23:36- Ashtray and Fezco 26:23- Cal 32:29- Nate 34:43- Cassie 43:12- Lexi 47:44- Jules 54:19- Rue 58:07- Finale

Sam Levinson simply can’t write any characters besides Rue. I definitely think they need a little writing team for continuity + plot lines that isn’t just Mr. Sam. He can write entertainment, though. I have to give him that.

ZENDAYA DESERVES THE EMMY FOR EPISODE 5.

not over the literal lesbian relationship being split up by a man sam ik who you are

Can we talk about how much Sam RUINED Cassie as a character? He made her such an unlikable bitch this season for the sake of pushing this Cassie x Nate x Maddy demonic love triangle. And I get that Cassie struggles with a lot as a result of her daddy issues which push her to pursuit any man in the hopes of finding love, but we literally watched her spiral and then shit on EVERYONE which was so unnecessary. And we hardly have any explanation for her suddenly new behavior. I liked Cassie is S1 because she was so complex. Also Kat and McKay. WHAT THE FUCK??? I feel like they erased whole scenes with Kat and McKay was completely written out of the show.

I am just very disappointed in the writing, Sam ruined a lot of characters this season that I really liked in the first. Kat had a very intriguing storyline last season and she was reduced to a side character this season ( plus one of the only significant scenes she has involves her gaslighting Ethan….), Mckay is just gone, where did he go? Sam didn’t give us any explanation, he just helped carry Nate and then left :/, and Cassie’s character was almost completely destroyed this season. Cassie seemed to be heading down a path of self love, since she mentioned that this was the first time she hadn’t been in love with someone at the end of last season (and seemed at peace with that). But then Cassie started hooking up with Nate, which not only came out of left field imo, but all of their scenes together were very uncomfortable and hard to watch....I really wish a lot of these characters had a different storyline tbh.

I don’t understand why they went from the layout of season 1 where each character had an episode to just literally throwing everything out there

I HATE that people dislike Jules for snitching on Rue. If Jules didn't do that Rue would have NEVER have gotten clean on her own. She did not know about Laurie thing and did what was ultimately the best thing for Rue's health.

I'm so shocked Lexie is everyone's hero. Just because Rue has extremely low self esteem and was flattered by her portrayal doesn't remotely make it okay to air out someone's VERY recent trauma for entertainment and ask them all to watch. My best friend lost her dad a couple years ago and the idea of mining that pain for content is absolutely insane to me. A literal scene doing his eulogy and everything, my god. How is there a lil white girl deciding she's holier than thou licherally getting onstage and saying "some people need their feelings hurt❤" not clearly a villain. I'm mad about the way her writing and producing was pulled from thin air when Kat's fanfic fame was already right there like I jus-

I knew you'd have taste and sense about Jules. I've been in her situation (not the cheating) but someone close to me told me my partner wasn't ever clean and they'd used together. It's so humiliating and heartbreaking! Rue betrayed her boundaries (which she set at the beginning of their friendship because of her addict mother! mind you!) Hurt people hurt people. She cheated with a guy who manipulated her with his little 'you're so quirky uwu manic pixie hottie' speech. Yet people treat her like a whole criminal.

Thank you for bringing up the whole traumatizing Maddy for... What exactly? Sam kept using her as some plot point for Nate and Cassie's story as it she's not a main character, a fan favorite and an interesting one to explore

Some people think that Rue already knows about the Jules situation because of the way she looked at both of them and THEN called Jules and attention whore. But Sam's writing is so messy that it almost feels far fetched to say. He leaves so many plot holes open.

Thank god someone called out the “jules manipulated cal” argument oh my god

I never really shipped Rue and Jules.. The message I got behind season 1 was Rue fell in love with Jules but Jules didn’t have those same feelings for her and she kind of trapped herself into an emotional draining relationship where she felt like she had to be with Rue so that she wouldn’t relapse and eventually convinced herself that Rue’s love was enough and likes that she feels needed. I think of their relationship as Stockholm syndrome 🤷🏽‍♂️

The people that defended Cal this season are wild to me

I love your commentary on Jules. Throughout the season, it became obvious that much of the fandom was just looking for a reason to hate her and cheating became the excuse for them to literally spew vitriol for the rest of the season. She's certainly not a perfect person and has made a shit ton of mistakes (as have all the characters), but how does cheating alone make her just as bad as LITERAL criminals (Nate and Cal). Twitter is full of people claiming their Cassie/Cal apologists, but their next tweet is them saying how much they despise Jules. How interesting. Literally in the back half of the season she literally did nothing and had like two lines in the finale, yet people still find something to complain about. At this point, people are just hating on her for existing in the show. I'm not going to say it, but it's giving that.

i feel like people aren't talking enough about how messy lexi was for doing the play in the first place. i know people love lexi and she's got this whole girl next door persona going. but putting on a play about real people's lives where you highlight some of their worst and lowest moments is messy. and doing it without telling all parties involved BEFOREHAND is also messy. cassie is foul but at the end of the day she's still her sister and for lexi to include some of cassie's most embarrassing moments (like the carnival ride scene) was rude AF. i also didn't like her trying to act innocent with fez on the phone about the play. she actually told him the play was for the good of everyone and no one should be offended by it. come on sis, stop lol. you knew you were going to humiliate cassie in the play.

you’re absolutely right that the same people who feel empathy for Cal cannot seem to extend that grace to Jules..

I’m glad you brought up Maddy’s trauma bc it bothered the hell out of me she was literally held at gunpoint (in her own home!!) and it was never talked about again. you would never be the same after that and Sam said oh well🙂

ATTENTION EUPHORIANS!!! we have until 2024 to get hunter schafer BACK in the writers room and sam levinson OUT of it Start your campaigns NOWWW

This is exactly why Sam needs a writers room, the reason Rue is so well written is because she is based on his past. He is screwing up the other characters by insisting only he be the one who writes the show, which is insane. He will be the downfall of this show.

Sam after absolutely destroying this show for the sake of drama and ratings: 😘 y'all stay safe now

Maddy and Cassie could've said more in that bathroom 🤷🏿‍♀️

The highlight of the season was Cassie crying to Suze while she just wants to watch her millionaire matchmaker 😭 ..also the audacity of Cassie comparing herself to Rue

They can never make me hate Jules I’m sorry. Cheating on rue was wrong but if you hate her and like NATE OR CAL???? You’re argument is immediately invalid to me

Kat's storyline this season was so horrible that I wouldn't even mind if they just pressed reset and acted like she was in another state for the semester. I've also had enough of the Jacobs family lore. It takes the show exactly nowhere and takes time away from other characters that could have used it like Maddy or Jules. I really have a problem with how Maddy's trauma is just not explored in the show because it wasn't last season either. With Gia I feel like they're setting up a confrontation similar to what happened this season between Lexi and Cassie, and it's kind of the only thing I'm looking forward to with the show at this point. I want her to have a chance to express herself in a similar way.

this season would’ve been bad if the actors weren’t talented.

also something that isn’t talked enough about: the only main bisexual man (cal) is given the sexual predator and deviant role, which is the most common homophobic stereotype and it’s icking me so much. like can we have a somewhat decent bisexual/gay man? 💀 idk, it feels kind of homophobic to me.

This show is just riddled with plot holes and continuity errors, what are they doing with this lingering Nate and Jules plot line? like they keep alluding to Nate wanting Jules for the past two seasons but it’s very sporadic to the point you forget thats a plot point, like his whole situation with Cassie was supposed to be him subconsciously substituting her for Jules, but it never goes anywhere, there were two instances this season where Nate was subconsciously thinking about Jules and it’s like ok we get it, we know Nate wants Jules but that it, plus Nate and Jules don’t even interact that much to keep you wondering where it’s gonna go, like he just randomly pulled up to her house and gave her the cd at the latter part of the season and that’s it

1) What was Elliot’s purpose outside of being a plot device? If you took him out, nothing would change. I’m convinced he’s a fever dream. 2) Faye’s purpose outside of being a plot device? (And low key having a crush on Fez.) 3) What was Samantha’s purpose? I assumed she was supposed to be a mentor and figure of hope and introspection for Maddy, but it got muddled with weak writing, lack of screen time, and a weird sexual energy between her and a literal minor. (I’m seeing a pattern, Sam…) 4) Is Lorie every coming to snatch Rue’s ass up? What drug dealer is this patient? “Im gonna sell you off to the highest bidder, but first character development.” Huh? 5) Not a question, but killing off Kat would’ve been nicer at this point. #justiceforkingethan 6) I’m so happy Nate got his ass beat, but why didn’t he retaliate against Fez? He literally gets everybody back in blood but with Fez it’s just “Fair enough🤷🏻‍♂️” #killnateseason3 7) Why introduce Fexi just to abandon it until the last 2 episodes and then send Fez to the slammer? 8) Why did Cassie go from a flawed but lovable character with real traumas to a shell of her former self with nothing left but…mental illness? It’s giving Jennifer’s Body: Male Identified Edition. 9) When did Ashtray become a mute? I’m assuming it was because Javon is going through puberty, but he went from being a fascinating character to Fez’s guard dog. #ripbenjaminbutton 10) I don’t have much to say about Gia, I just wanted to address her because the show doesn’t. 11) I understand everybody handles trauma differently, but why does Maddy seem so unfazed? What was the point of the gun scene? Trauma porn? I wish we got to see the toll Nate’s actions have taken on her, but instead we get Cassie crying naked…again. 12) Speaking of, I let out an audible sigh of relief every time we got through an episode without seeing Cassie naked. Sydney please get with Zendaya’s people and renegotiate your contract or something, we’re tired. 13) When will the parents, Lexi and Cassie’s mom especially take some accountability for how fucked up their kids are. Suze looked at her bad parenting and alcoholism in Lexi’s play and instead of getting embarrassed was living for it all. 14) I would’ve liked to see more of Jules issues with her mom or something other than an unnecessary cheating plot line. 15) WHO IS THE THIRD CHILD IN NATE’S FAMILY PHOTO. Sam, if you’re not gonna tell us, please stop giving us tight shots of it. At this point if it mattered, somebody in the family would have mentioned it, especially when talking about what turned Nate so cold as a kid (besides terrible parents and unchecked mental illness.) 16) Zendaya, Sydney, and Cal’s actor better do a clean sweep at the Emmy’s!

Cassie took up the majority of the screen time but had no character development

i wasn’t surprised to hear that some of the actors were having problems with the show (especially this season) too. Sydney (cassie) wasn’t too happy bout being naked for most of her scenes & Barbie (kat) wasn’t too fond bout how her character was being portrayed this season compared to last season.

the way the boy whos maddie babysat got more screentime than kat and jules💀

Here’s why cal stans piss me off, should Jules had lied about her age? No she shouldn’t be doing things with adults BUT she’s a teen the blame is entirely on Cal. And even if she lied, she said what 18, 19? That’s barely legal. What is a grown man doing with a barely legal adult. Where you can easily lie bc physically the difference between a 17 year old and a 19 year old are very small. He shouldn’t even be messing let alone recording barely legal adults either. That’s just gross. They did not need Jules to cheat to tear the relationship apart. What they should’ve done is have an ep for Elliot so he is developed and is more interesting and well rounded character. And have Elliot be a negative influence to Rue’s drug addiction, they do drugs together and rue spirals and jules finds out and so she tells Rue’s mom and the relationship ends. Boom

I am CONVINCED that season 1 was written by someone else. There's no way the same person(s*m l*vinson) wrote season 1 and 2....

also kinda wild how we didn't get a deeper dive into rue's home life (despite her character being the core of the show) but we did with nate's family... step to the mic sam

maddy is the moment

I think it was very weird of them to show so many scenes with drunk driving but no repercussions for said drunk driving.

i appreciate your take on the play because with the exception of the carousel bit, it was not that bad? everyone else was cool with it and also, the conversation with the audience made it, as you said, incredibly clear that not everyone at school knew it was based on their friend group. she didn’t even touch on the cassie/nate drama at all. the most that i got from cassie’s portrayal was some ditziness and then lexi trying to process how cassie has impacted her own trauma and coping.

Elliot was boring, just a plot device to mess with rue and jules, they could have made him interesting like the theories of him working with Laurie, selling those pills cause we didn't even see what they did with them? Who flushes all that? It's a freaking suitcase! Cassie and maddy had all this build up for nothing the fight was disappointing 😞 it was a filler season, all we saw could have been 3-4 episodes then get to the answers and more character development tho I liked the cal episode and seeing ethan shine

Something I don't see being talked about is how Cal specifically fits the stereotype of the sexual deviant bi man. Almost entirely of bi men in media are portrayed as players who treat people who have sex with them as objects. I wouldn't care if it didn't reinforce what we are stereotyped as. (Well, bi men and non binary masc individuals.)

Miss Sydney Sweeney came in to ACT this season okayyyy!🗣 As for Elliot...I wish they made him have some sort of a connection to Mouse or Laurie. When they didn't make that a storyline I was like, then why tf is he there lol wasted opportunity in my opinion.

Jules and Elliott did the right thing. Rue was on the edge of death and that was the most direct thing Jules could do for her

"where do i start" EXACTLY.

Regarding Lexi's play, Fez did say that sometimes people need to get their feelings hurt and he was right lmao

Some of the characters felt so hollow like they were just a bunch of NPCs

No how they skipped over McKays Sa storyline…. Tyler storyline…

i think Cassie and the issue with Rue and drugs comes from the fact that her own father became a heroin user and left. She will always see drug users like Rue as bad people because she’s projecting the hatred of her own father onto Rue.

I can’t believe Sam made us wait 3 years for sloppy writing and for most of the scenes to be Cassie screaming crying and throwing up. The actors did an amazing job ngl, I just wish the script was better.

The hatred for Jules makes me sick. People will constantly bring up how she has hurt Rue but literally never how Rue has hurt her. People just forget the lying about doing hardcore drugs (when Jules had said that was a hard boundary for her), and insulting her ever happened. Cassie's storyline was just to humiliate her for no reason. Rue's arc was good but the ending is not earned, we don't see her struggle with her mental health or staying clean at all, she also didn't do much to apologize for the hurt she caused besides to Ali. Her last conversation with Jules was ridiculous, she really didn't have one thing to say to her? She could thank Elliot for saving her life but not Jules? Part of her growth should have been realizing she contributed to the end of their relationship. Where the hell is Laurie?? Jules and Kat get absolutely nothing. Maddy got a decent arc but still not enough. Lexi got too much screentime, and should have faced more backlash from some of the things in her play, but that was just Sam's way to justify his own writing tbh. Nate's actions never make any sense. Who wants to see Cal? Not me. I'm so mad.

this season really felt like...it felt like a Season 2A or a filler season. It had its good moments, but it didn't feel like the Euphoria i fell inlove with at first

I’m bracing myself because I KNOW Amanda isn’t with the shits… including the questionable writing😂💀

we love people that understand jules as a character!!!

There needs to be a writing team for each character because outside of rue same doesn't know what he's doing.

I CANT WAIT to see what Amanda has to say 👏🏻

honestly with Jules and Rue i think they are better off as friends they’re just too toxic for eachother which is really sad

I like how we all don’t straight up hate Cassie we’re just embarrassed, disappointed, confused, and sad about how her story turned out this season. Euphoria should’ve been 1 single season tbh cause Sam levinson just doesn’t know what to do with his characters.

I feel like something happened that stunted the growth of the show, because how could a show so popular, so beloved, just fall from grace so fast. It should of had all the resources and support from the studios and shit to be the best it could of been yet we got this hot garbage pile of shit. Either Sam levinson really doesn’t know how to write ( because the first season was based off the Palestinian show that only had one season so he already had an established story to base his off of) or he regretted writing a show based on a lot of poc? Because this new season only gave a fuck about Cassie and her whole mess that she started and also the Cal shit and the Nate shit. Idgaf, I fell for this show for Rue and Jules and Maddy and Kat and Gia and even McKay (his story had so much potential too). The rumored fight between Barbie and Levinson is very telling to me even if it’s not confirmed. I feel disrespected as a viewer Lmaoo like we deserved a REAL story not just whatever this season was.

I thought the whole point of Cassie was to parallel Rue. They have similar backstory- being the older sister overshadowing the younger and dealing with the deaths of their fathers. She is spiraling at the same time as Rue with her low point coming at the same time as Rue. She’s just addicted to “love” to cope (or avoid coping) with her loss instead of drugs (maybe a little drugs too)

season 1 was pretty much perfect to me and i can’t find anything to complain about it, season 2 on the other hand there’s too much to complain about..

It was rumored that Kat’s character was supposed to develop an eating disorder but the actress was against it, so her role got chopped. Not sure how true or accurate that is though. I wished they gave her more in the second season too.

KAT WAS REALLY RUINED THIS SEASON OH IT WAS SO BAD FOR HER

not to mention kat deserved to have more of a nuanced reaction to cassie and maddy’s break up. she vacillated between gassing maddy up on the phone and then trying to stop maddy smacking cassie. the kat from season 1 would’ve had a more nuanced or unique reaction than just maddy’s backup

My thing with Cassie is that I legit thought they were going somewhere with this and felt sympathy for her. Not because I agree with any of her actions. but because I thought she was legitimately going through a psychotic break. Where the reality in her head is not meshing with actual reality, where she legitimately could not differentiate right from wrong because her brain is firing off all cylinders. My dad went through one a couple years ago and he was like a comepletly unrecognizable person, running around calling my stepmother Judas and just acting completly out of character, and Cassies behaviour seemed very reminiscent of this. But unless they are spreading it into season 3 than I don't get it.

And they did Kat so wrong but maddy & cassie gave me life… when maddy pushed cassie into that wall I was like yay

I definitely feel like the brain tumor thing was such a shitty plot for Kat. There were so many other plots Sam could’ve taken her character through …. No wonder she walked off set. Ashtrays death had me crying ugly tears for at least 2 days. It broke me down. I needed Maddy to curb stomp tf outta Cassie. That fight was anticlimactic asf.

missing when jules was a main character honestly i loved her

Ehh. The only mean thing I saw was the carousel scene. She ain't need to do that, but hey we didn't see why she put it in there. Maybe the sisters had a moment after that scene. I mean the fact that Cassie went up on stage crying about being the villain was so pathetic. Literally everyone was confused. Folks were shocked when she put her business out there. Cassie was upset because she had to see for herself the depth of her betrayal, by showing her how deep her relationship with Maddy was and had to remember that's what she tossed in the garbage for male validation. That's why she is throwing a tantrum on stage since she thought it was gonna lead up to the betrayal.

I think Storm portrays Gia’s feelings with her face pretty well.

The people saying Jules and Elliot are hypocrites for sleeping together and then telling Rue's mom about her addiction confuse me. The scene where Rue said "I forgive you." I was like FOR WHAT?! SAVING YOUR LIFE!!!

Ready to ban Sam levinson from ever writing again