Former ihopper here. Grateful for the deep dive you guys are doing on this mess.
@stengerp16 ай бұрын
So disturbing again RJ defending another sex predator. Then they get C R to jump on board with that after the Lord had showed him 3 women. They turned what he Chris was shown and he then got up on Oct 31 to rip up the whistleblowers and JD. My take on that is they used Chris R voice because they knew he had a following while making him a false prophet. At this point Chris needs to go sit down lick his wounds and read the chapter in his book on The Spirit of the Fear of the Lord. Big growing moment for Chris right now. Used as their circus act!
@myramoir40566 ай бұрын
I don't know if you missed it but Chris Reeed apologized for his message on Oct. 31 and apologized for hurting people and the Jane Does. He also canceled a speaking engagement with IHOPKC. You can find his apology posted on KZfaq. I respect him for doing that.
@stengerp16 ай бұрын
@@myramoir4056 I saw it and was not convinced by it. It was more like a kid getting caught with his hand in the cookie jar. There were no tears of remorse nor did I sense in him a Godly remorse.
@stengerp16 ай бұрын
@@myramoir4056 I saw it and was not convinced of his sincerity. No tears of remorse. More like all about him being duped. Time to learn a few things for him right now.
@iamkennymartin6 ай бұрын
Allen hood’s heart alone in that video vs. General Fuller’s demeanor in the video response this morning speak volumes
@johnbrossoit27046 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@JhutaNabi6 ай бұрын
A shepherd and a soldier. Soldiers are built for battle… and to defend. What does it say of an org, person or people who chose a soldier to do what one with a pastor’s heart needs to do? We don’t put chaplains on the front lines or devise battle strategy, do we? 🤦♂️
@TimelyTruth6 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@jackierutherford51796 ай бұрын
you know Allen Hood's heart? NO YOU DON'T! Do you know all the things Kurt has had to deal with? NO YOU DON'T! Have you heard Mike's side of the story?NO YOU HAVEN'T!
@reesecop5 ай бұрын
@@jackierutherford5179🤣🤣🤣
@user-ww5uv6uh7h6 ай бұрын
I read somewhere “It is easier to deceive a man than it is to convince him that he has been deceived.”
@RSofUCTn6 ай бұрын
Mark Twain
@user-ww5uv6uh7h6 ай бұрын
@@RSofUCTn thanks!
@user-ww5uv6uh7h6 ай бұрын
Actually, Allen said yes, he wants to be investigated and have the opportunity to repent if he did anything wrong or in anyway hurt anyone. Allen embraces the light.
@watchingpraying77636 ай бұрын
That's what I heard too. He's all in for walking in the light, for total integrity in the process.
@rachelkirtley36256 ай бұрын
Amen
@user-pc3xq9gi2k6 ай бұрын
I watched the AG 's 3 videos yesterday. They are so excellent, informative, clarifying, and helpful!!! I am so grateful to our Lord Jesus that He continues to bring the truth to us. The depth of sin and mis handling of MB and IHOPKC is grave. I'm praying for genuine repentance on MB's part and all those culpable.
@teresaturner56216 ай бұрын
Narcissists don't acknowledge any evil on their part so it's impossible for them to repent
@deborahvarneyduboise67766 ай бұрын
He’ll never do it. Someone said he was a great storyteller, 😂 but the wrong kind.. He’s a bone- no- fi-ed LIER AND TO GOOD AT IT.. he won’t & can’t tell her the truth! He lives in his own head and there it will stay because he has already been turned over to a reprobate.. sorry but go see what one is! BINGO HE FITS IT TOO THE T…. We have a modern day reprobate GOD DIDNT LEAVE US UNPREPARED.. END TIMES LIVING OUT BEFORE OUR 👀..🙏✝️🛐
@hopeb4sunrise3096 ай бұрын
@@teresaturner5621true! Repentance defies their whole existence of why they are a narcissist in the first place. But I truly do hope Mike Bickle comes to the end of himself and repents before he passes over into eternity.
@redrider58326 ай бұрын
Character trumps gifting all day long! Excellent discernment
@tlsings556 ай бұрын
The three AG videos brought such clarity. Between Dean Briggs as the brave, bold warrior, Allen Hood’s relational shepherding, Elizabeth Herder’s Mark 12:31 faithfulness and devotion, and all the rest of these courageous stewards, I felt myself actually exhale. “The only recourse for sin of powerful leaders and charismatic, independent churches is the public press. We ought to be grieved over this. The fear of the Lord should take hold of us for this. That we cannot…we don’t have enough integrity to do the right thing and overcome basic self-preservation. The prayer folk didn’t overcome it, which means prayer does not just correct organizational dysfunction and corruption. We need a look in the mirror and come to terms as the body of Christ-we’re not doing church right. We need help.” ~Allen Hood
@dianewhitlock19176 ай бұрын
Admittance of wrong, true contrition and godly sorrow must precede restoration. This is a personal work of the person and others can pray for his true repentance, however this has been hidden so others didn’t know to pray.
@dianewhitlock19176 ай бұрын
And I agree with Allen.❤
@catherinegrace23666 ай бұрын
Your channel is the only one I listen to about the IHOPKC business. Thank you, you and your wife do a responsible job of explaining this.
@user-pc3xq9gi2k6 ай бұрын
I thought Allen's point about this being a Ps. 51 moment for Mike. It's Nathan showing up at your door was so powerful.
@lindag99756 ай бұрын
Thanks. The AG's made those videos in December but didn't release them because shortly afterward, the organization seemed to want to work with them. The videos were only released after the organization doubled down and appeared to blame the AG and victims for everything. Say hello to your beautiful wife for all of us.
@Mint-kj9kw6 ай бұрын
"Character trumps gifting". Sadly enough, the church struggles with this....especially with worship leaders.
@thestraightroad3054 ай бұрын
I know firsthand this is true, to my great remorse and repentance. It’s all to easy to idolize the music and one’s own gift. But “what do you have that you did not receive?” Let pride give way to humility. Step away if you must, to return to the Lord.
@MissHussey846 ай бұрын
It's so crazy to me that people actually saw Mike playing footsie with other women and no one batted an eye. This is the shadow side to Honor culture and celebrity pastors. Hero-worship is alive and well in church. And it HAS to end. We have to see even our best as human.
@mimicaban95516 ай бұрын
community grooming is a real thing and the point of it is that people don't know that it's happening. you begin to second guess your "gut feelings" and knowings gradually over time. because the person is SUCH a good great honest pious kind generous honorable etc etc etc person. In a training on recognizing predators that I watched last summer, one of the common traits the presenter said that predators can possess is being a man teacher coach clergy of the year type of person. as you study these things you will see how even the most intelligent aware discerning people can be groomed to not listen to their own sense of knowing something is wrong or off.
@kathiewalters6 ай бұрын
At the restaurant they saw him put his hand up someone’s dress
@MissHussey846 ай бұрын
@@mimicaban9551 I hear you. I wasn't meaning to criticize anyone directly. I was more or less making a statement about how a culture is influenced, manipulated by its leader. It's just wild that any of us could be susceptible to that kind of grooming against what we know to be true. It's sad and devastating.
@MissHussey846 ай бұрын
@@kathiewalters so sad.
@dianewhitlock19176 ай бұрын
I agree, it’s not real. We are to be doers of the word.
@trumpeterswan41776 ай бұрын
Character trumps gifting every single time. Yes
@sonnayhwh6 ай бұрын
Well done, Blaise. If the scope ever went beyond the “sexual” aspect of abuse to the ethical and moral aspects of malfeasance committed by Bickle and those who ran guard for him, the “group” would swell to a mob. (I refer to things I know of first hand, but are only a shadow of things already revealed). This exposure is well deserved and will not be deterred. Thank you for the voice you’ve given to those yet unheard.
@LynnsYouTube6 ай бұрын
It's interesting that they confronted you on "hyper grace" theology, but now they don't want to hold Mike Bickle accountable saying they want to show mercy and restore him. I'd say the "hyper mercy" theology is a lot more harmful than the "hyper grace," and I am not a fan of "hyper grace" either.
@debboutin79466 ай бұрын
My husband and I met the Lord in the midst of the Jesus Movement. We've seen a lot through the years, but nothing has shaken us as much as this...not with our walk with the Lord, but with our trust in ministries and the prophetic movement. Thankfully, we don't put men on a pedestal, so when they fall, we remain strong. Finding out what Mike Bickle has been doing all along has gutted us to the core. We would have defended him forever, never dreaming he would do such a thing. We are now looking at everyone we listen to with different eyes. So very sad. 😭
@meganreger69426 ай бұрын
Me too!!!! I am Rocked to my core!!!!😔😢 I was Ordained online based off of many of MB’s teachings and books!!!!
@sallymatthews7296 ай бұрын
Be a Berean. Double check everything you hear against God’s word. Sickening how this turned out.
@tracydyar75266 ай бұрын
As the head goes, so goes the body. Bickle’s character created a culture at iHopKC. Using “prophecies” to protect and cover yourself is DISGUSTING! Since the 80’s.
@BrotherJohnElving6 ай бұрын
Blessings from Canada. 🇨🇦
@malissiajones77616 ай бұрын
I never realized how sheltered I have been (by the Lord) over the past 30 years or so until I stumbled on this subject. I think the biggest lesson the church, as in the people, should take away is to learn to recognize such deceit while it's small. Thereby preventing its growth and saving a lot of heartache. As important as spiritual discernment is, a few simple rules and a touch of logic could protect us at our foundations. The first and foremost rule should be: GOD will NEVER contradict HIMSELF. By the way, I despise acronyms. It took me ever so long to figure out why a scandal in restaurants was important to the body of Christ.
@Kinugo16 ай бұрын
Today was the pressrelease of an indepentant report about sexual abuse in the Protestant church in Germany. Sorry my English is not good. Devastating. The are not better than the Catholic Church. Now I read the summary of the report and it is always the same. The abused people and there families are treated often not good. Forgive, give grace was often told. But they want to stop it, and that the abusive person take responsibility for their abuse. Criminal investigation. 100 abused person were part of the team writing the report.They said we were treated so badly from the church but we stood up together over years demanding investigation. They said we have our voice back. We speak… The report was only the beginning.
@mfinn78806 ай бұрын
I think that you & your wife Christina are honest, wise, perceptive & trustworthy. What a great family. It's stressful moving, so I hope & pray that it all goes well, which it will. Thanks for your updates & insights. Mind yourselves! ☘️
@debbyhathcock45566 ай бұрын
By the way, Bickle used to preach sermons on these exact things! Character and integrity trumping gifting! He taught on the men of the 1950's healing annointing when they fell after becoming caught up in sin and how important character is above annointing. Its so crazy!!!
@RebeccaBirk6 ай бұрын
My heart breaks for a dear friend of mine and her 3 sons who believed so much in IHOPKC. TRUTH &HEALING needs to happen!
@victorclay12076 ай бұрын
This kind of stuff always follows heresy...and he is a heretick. God does not speak to him. He should never and I mean never be in ministry.
@servantofmessiah10716 ай бұрын
Yes, certainly cannot be a Christian. Criminal, maybe. But certainly not a Christian. “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)
@user-ww5uv6uh7h6 ай бұрын
The issue of “choking” women really demonstrates the possibility of a misogynistic spirit.
@rihraw6 ай бұрын
Maybe we should stop repeating “MB is accused of ….” But rather “there is verified evidence of SA”
@kristinebeno43366 ай бұрын
Allen never said he didn’t want to be investigated he said absolutely!
@pattyjones99616 ай бұрын
Number one RULE in Ministry…. Never be alone with the opposite sex… period I don’t care who you are. Bickle should have known better, this whole thing is sickening and does nothing but make The Lord look bad to the world. My heart hurts for The Lord as well as the victims 😢
@catherinegrace23666 ай бұрын
Yes, amen
@mimicaban95516 ай бұрын
i'm guessing he did know this. but predatory people do not care and they use these situations to get what they want
@pattyjones99616 ай бұрын
@@mimicaban9551 Yeah that’s pretty obvious.. 😑
@Elizabethvaughan16 ай бұрын
@@mimicaban9551 and they create the situations so they can continue in their abuses . This has been happening since before the beginning of IHOP . What better way to maintain a fresh new supply of vulnerable young women . Keep digging there will be more .😢
@Whatever453026 ай бұрын
There’s a whole channel about his office layout and padded locks in doors weird stuff
@michellecampos74556 ай бұрын
Grieves my heart that some peoples first question is “ why did it take these women so long to speak up”? Hello! THIS IS WHAT ABUSE OF POWER does to people. 😩
@stengerp16 ай бұрын
Integrity and character go hand in hand!!!
@amk57386 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for what you and your wife do. It is HUGE-you have to know how important the work you’re doing is! Your voices have been key to this process for us as we navigate it being here. Thank you.
@flowers1-2-16 ай бұрын
Character trumps gifting all d-a-y long! Preach❤🔥 The thing is, after following Mike Bickle’s teaching, for some many years, I’ve come to the conclusion that what he was telling us was prophecy/ prophetic teaching, was just him making things up intertwined with Scripture.🇬🇧
@sallymatthews7296 ай бұрын
Back in the 80’s Mike Bickle was doing this at the same time Jimmy Swaggart was exposed as well as Jim Bakker. So, so glad this is now also exposed.
@kathleenking476 ай бұрын
What? He was?
@phils2ys4u6 ай бұрын
This is why I won’t let anyone be my “spiritual father or mother”. Plus I just dont need one. No one does.
@adebrown33575 ай бұрын
Blessings from Jamaica🇯🇲 Thank you thank you thank you. Keep up the good work! We must persist until there is justice, and healing for ALL victims
@teresaturner56216 ай бұрын
In all our prayers let us pray for discernment
@groundedapproach6 ай бұрын
During my short time at IHOP we had so many restrictions. It was like being in rehab. And it was ALWAYS said “no dates mates or babies” meaning we couldn’t prophesy these things (which I agree is a good rule by the way). But it’s bizarre that while I couldn’t ride in cars with members of the opposite sex or go anywhere on my day off and my group leader was constantly checking on us in the prayer room, the LEADERSHIP is prophesying all these things, playing footsies with girls and actually sexually assaulting them. I can’t wrap my head around how they were so legalistic in our internship but somehow it’s okay for leadership to behave this way
@lorrainemingrino99286 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your video especially in light of your family moving! I know what that’s like I had 5 children and moved what fun!😁 thank you again for your candid talk and laying out the pieces of this tragedy! The Godly wisdom from you and your wife is much needed! Praying for your beautiful family!
@mfinn78806 ай бұрын
You're a wise, good leader, an honest broker. It's refreshing to hear about other good Leaders like Alan Hood. We pray for all the lady's who are victims, we ask for kind & caring Leader's who will listen care properly for them, Amen 🙏 🙏 🙏
@mark-dv9gb6 ай бұрын
Somebody call the cops !!!
@AlizaDasha6 ай бұрын
I think they're very likely masonry.
@Hip_hop_ataymus6 ай бұрын
Close, it’s all about Zionism with this lot, the whole movement seams to subvert real Christianity with this strange fascination with Israel
@cristilynexposito6 ай бұрын
I can’t believe all this is happening.. I just keep saying this over and over 💔
@revivalmelbourne5136 ай бұрын
Thank you Blaise! and the advocate group! for all the hard work to bring the truth!
@Kingdomkid8296 ай бұрын
YESSSSS. This whole video. You guys are saying what I’ve been saying and I’m SO encouraged I’m not alone. PREACH IT!
@AlizaDasha6 ай бұрын
Repentance and belief/trust in Jesus go hand in hand. You can't separate them. You can't repent without belief in Jesus and you can't believe without repenting. They are both the gift of God. Granting repentance unto life is the same thing as granting faith. A gift to be received. Repentance includes turning from evil to faith/obedience to Jesus. Many Christians try to say that the gift of faith and salvation does not include repentance or that repentance is only mental assent and has nothing to do with turning away from evil and dead works and surrendering in obedience to Jesus. But look at these verses. Repenting from evil does not save you but it does happen when one puts their faith in Jesus and is born again. It just results from the new nature. Repentance is a gift that comes with the measure of faith that is given to every person upon their believing in Jesus. Those who do not repent do not truly believe.
@godsstruggler87836 ай бұрын
Corey (Smart Christian Channel) covered this only last night. True faith is missing from a lot of leaders, so it follows that true repentance is also absent. Many are not born again and therefore dependent on mental ascent and human wisdom - which is earthly, soulish and demonic.
@susanvincent2626 ай бұрын
I saw all those interviews. Excellent, but heartbreaking.
@margaretfriedlein85616 ай бұрын
I am a former l hopper and l so agree with this. My son was so spiritually damaged by the one thing internship that he became an atheist. My oldest daughter ended up in a lesbians relationship as a result of beintroduced to a friend of friend in the summer teen internship. There is no real protective oversight of some of their programs because they are run inexperienced young people not much older than the people they are ministering to. I left in 2009 and glad l did.
@bryanprice78976 ай бұрын
Man I hope its ministry where you land. Brother we need yall
@sheacoaching6 ай бұрын
I am choosing to forgive ELT. Choosing to forgive Isaac. Choosing to forgive Mike. 😢 But I don’t trust them, and I won’t be submitted to that kind of leadership. I pray that I will be given grace when I make mistakes (all sin is sin). However, I think that there is a period of waiting and seeing… Will this devastating loss bring healing and accountability and grow character. Or, will it create a new false king?
@sheacoaching6 ай бұрын
I remember when we moved with 2 kids (3 and under). And again with 5 kids 10 and under. It’s fun. I was actually given a word that helped me through the entire process of moving our family a few states away. Reach out if that sounds helpful to you. Praying for a safe and smooth move.
@ericfisher13606 ай бұрын
Not for nothing; but when people start invoking things using language like "Black Horse Prophecies" as if it is something from Lord of the Rings, that ought to he a good indication that you are getting played.
@flowers1-2-16 ай бұрын
I fell for it hook, line and sinker🙁 I thought I was spiritually mature, after following Jesus Christ for 35+ years, only to find out that I lack discernment and I’m gullible😢 I too thought, No way! Not MB🙁🇬🇧
@ericfisher13606 ай бұрын
@@flowers1-2-1 I think the "trick" and cause for that is what I call "Christianese" or "Church Talk". You know how people in Church tend to use words, phrases, sentence syntax etc that they never use in their lives outside of Church? Saying Prayers that sound like they are spoken in "King James English", or using a smattering of Hebrew, Latin or Greek in a sermon keeps people off balance and mentally discombobulated. For example why bother to utter something like " Sola Fida" just to tell people it means Faith Alone 10 seconds later? Or "Harpazo" just to tell people it's greek for "caught up"? It is a rhetorical trick designed to make people feel less educated or in over their heads so they stop thinking and just start "absorbing". This also gets people used to hearing archaic sounding words and it places them in a mindframe that "feels" mystical Spiritual and "meaty" but is not actually Biblically sound. In short they stop listening to what is said and instead rely on feeling what is said. Here is a experiment. Go to Church and ask 10 people independently what the point of a sermon was., and see how many times someone says "I feel like it was about X".
@brittanyparistx6 ай бұрын
Congrats on the big move / changes! Hopefully y’all are coming to Texas!!!! 🙏🏽 whatever it is, praying for y’all and excited to hear God is moving in your lives! ❤️❤️❤️
@wordsoflife426 ай бұрын
Lol about 2 minutes in and just want to say I appreciate your conversational podcast with the wifey but your solos are like good bro time for me haha always dropping good heart stuff. Appreciate you man! Kinda bummed your moving my wife said you guys were like 2 hours from us. I was heartened to know such good blood was nearby. Pray God blesses the adventure though and brings favor and strength 🙏
@goodlikemedicine6 ай бұрын
I didn't but I found abuse other places and this is helping me face it and come out of the oppression of it
@watchingpraying77636 ай бұрын
Thank you, again. What a help those videos that were posted by The Advocate Group have been... proof at last that the Matt 18 process was attempted by the first Jane Doe and her husband... proof too that there are former leaders of tender and upright heart that just want to shine light on the truth so that all who were hurt can find healing. It's been agonizing to see how long this has drug along AND to know it's got more to go yet, but heartening to see it moving in the right direction.
@rebecca427346 ай бұрын
Yes. Character trumps gifting .... all the time. Can't believe you're in the middle of a move and still a watchman on the wall. Grateful for you both. 🙏
@neilzubot6 ай бұрын
Always great to hear from you and your wife on this. Thanks!
@sarahratliff4826 ай бұрын
I appreciate you both for what you are doing. It needs to be done and you both are speaking truth with love. Thank you!
@Isaiah30v216 ай бұрын
Thank you for this.
@gertrudebellemsieh75396 ай бұрын
Character TRUMPS Gifting ALL DAY LONG! and my soul screams, AMEN! AMEN! and AMEN!
@CrossPointeofTexarkana6 ай бұрын
That is my FRAT BRO!!! Good word, Allen.
@Drshakababa6 ай бұрын
Well said about needing the grandkid. Truth
@teresaturner56216 ай бұрын
One person's hands is on the wheel
@growinginthegraceandknowle78264 ай бұрын
So good to hear the value character over celeb status.
@mikemcbride72416 ай бұрын
I don't come here bearing dreams or visions or a prophetic word, but I do have something to share about the bottom lines in this sad and sordid mess that continues to unfold: Concerning MB....It is not part of God's nature (or attributes) to "defend" wicked and perverted individuals who refuse to humble themselves before the Lord and others that they have sinned against. MB is not the man of God that so many want to believe that he is. He is a coward and continues to hide behind the cloak of IHOPKC instead of doing what a "true" man of God is called to do. Concerning IHOPKC leadership(?).... This organization has crafted various posturing's and/or maneuvers but it all amounts to smoke and mirrors...simply a facade, waiting for the fury and clamor to die out so they can resume "business as usual" with only a few minor adjustments and no more public accountability then is absolutely necessary. Concerning the Advocates....Many of us in the body of Christ appreciate the courageous stand you have taken in support of these women who were without a doubt spiritually abused and manipulated by MB (and others (?), in the manner of "thus saith the Lord") and need voices such as yours to stand with them as they share their experiences in a very public forum. Having said that, whenever I hear someone speak about another man as their "spiritual father", that title or phrase always points to one word..."Idolatry". If we are all open and honest about that word, then we are "all" guilty of that somewhere in our lives and it must be dealt with for what it is. It is not just an ugly word....it is SIN. Whether that idolatry is in the form of our spouse or children, spiritual leaders/shepherds (?), worship music (?) money, comfort or security, our jobs, hobbies, TV, sports, religion, etc....anything that we set on a pedestal can and will lead us all into idolatry. It's a very subtle type of sin that very quietly creeps into our lives, so as to go unnoticed. Concerning the Survivors.... The hearts and prayers of many in the body of Christ are with you. We care about you; support you and we truly believe you when you share your horrible experiences involving the failures/SIN of MB and IHOPKC leadership (?). No one deserves to live these types of experiences, but scriptures assure us of trials and tribulations in this fallen world. That doesn't change the love Christ and our heavenly Father has for us. He doesn't always prevent these things from happening to His loved ones, but He is always there to walk through it with us. Concerning All Involved....Idolatry is alive and well. MB's idolatry was unto himself and his own agenda (24/7 prayer). Leaderships idolatry was towards MB and 24/7 prayer mandate. Survivors' idolatry was also towards MB, 24/7 prayer mandate, as well as having a strong desire to be accepted by those in authority and wanting to be one of the "true one's" inside the inner circle. As I stated earlier, idolatry is a very subtle type of sin, not an "in your face" type of sin. However, if there had been true discernment exercised by "all" concerned....and there is a heavy emphasis towards the leadership's ability to discern and act appropriately...this situation very well could have been adverted decades ago. For All of Us....Examine ourselves against scripture, humble ourselves before our God and repent (and turn away from) of the idolatry that we have allowed to creep into our lives and pray for His mercy.
@pastorsclass25 ай бұрын
Brother, I agree. Smoke & mirrors at work in the leadership. Persecution actually saved the early church after Herod killed James. They were scattered but in due time Jerusalem was going to be destroyed and the gospel needed to be preached in other places. They should be open to vacating KC in repentance and let the Lord lead them to other places.
@alenawedlock52786 ай бұрын
I haven't heard anyone mention something that Mike mentioned in his last sermon. Remember he spoke about a phone call with Loren Cunningham on his death bed and Mike said the Lord spoke to Loren, as Loren wanted to pass his mission onto someone, and said, "I trust Mike." That statement impacted me and I found myself agreeing and thought it was amazing that the Lord would say that. Little did I know that that statement was more than likely said to manipulate everyone into thinking that God trusted Mike. No-one can even check to see if that conversation really happened. Unbelievable!
@rebeccanewell34496 ай бұрын
We appreciate you guys!
@andrewhambling6 ай бұрын
Greetings from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
@kathiewalters6 ай бұрын
Very good to open this up -
@deborahvarneyduboise67766 ай бұрын
Amen you are spot on.. love you two so much. From this older generation ( 69yrs.) but you two remind me of a space of long ago. lol. No! I’ve watched when Christine wasn’t there, maybe because I’m a mom & grandma lol.. that little boy was find, I have to guess that statement came from one of these younger guys 🤣🤣 patience, patience people.😂😂✝️🛐❤️🫵🏼 TWO AND LITTLE GUY.. haven’t met the other two babies of yours 😞😩🥰
@ericgriggs45456 ай бұрын
Let God be the judge😢
@janreason15186 ай бұрын
I watched General Fuller's statement prior to seeing The Advocacy Group videos. I didn't really get why there was so much push back to Fuller's statement. However, listening to you today really opened my eyes to the absolute need for a neutral 3rd party here. I have so much respect for Allen Hood's position on this. I'm going to be very careful from this point on as to who I listen to. In fact, I don't think it's wise for me to follow this unfolding tragedy too closely. I have nothing in this except compassion for those hurt by this (I've been through something similar but not on such a grand scale), and some anger for those who tried to cover everything up after they knew the truth. It's past time for some brutal honesty here, and I think it's best sorted out by an entity that has not been under the leadership of Mike Bickle.
@jmkqfnvyl876 ай бұрын
Looks like Brown is stepping up. Called out Fuller. . . And is promising to put pressure on getting a suitable 3rd party chosen by AG and coordinate urging from many other global leaders for ihop just to accept it without input or pushback and open up the books before they have to publicly decry the ministry. Hope he’s serious. Would like to see his redemption arc too! But we must hold this kind of stuff accountable too. . . I why do I get my hopes up for this stuff. . 😩
@kevink99386 ай бұрын
michael brown is shoving himself into where he is not needed in an attempt to keep himself relevant.
@hopeb4sunrise3096 ай бұрын
On one hand, it would seem they have everything to lose by coming forward. But the truth is they have everything to gain by coming forward. Otherwise, they can never heal from the trauma and it’s God’s desire that they heal so they can be whole and live free from all the burden and shame.
@shellieszott90916 ай бұрын
The Messed Up Church did a video last night and recommended "The Advocate Group."
@goodlikemedicine6 ай бұрын
At one point I was considering packing up and going there as a intercessory missionary
@chrispeterson92776 ай бұрын
He said “co-leader” not “cult leader”
@donnaeid28626 ай бұрын
Character before gifting!
@rachbry16 ай бұрын
Mike Brumbeck doesn’t have a clue as to what he is talking about. We have waaaay more knowledge about grooming than we use to and yet he has no interest in educating himself.
@OneBraveWoman6 ай бұрын
“You need a kid in your life.” Perfect comment!😂
@lisacox79656 ай бұрын
Love your sharing about your journey studying the word and developing your theology
@lolabear67884 ай бұрын
Behold, exposure of a narcissist/wicked man.
@dianewhitlock19176 ай бұрын
Understatement and well said my brother!
@paula1007626 ай бұрын
I God Who sees all & knows, & I trust Alan Hood & Cory Russell & the victim, before anyone!!! May the truth of God prevail!!!
@yvonneparks6 ай бұрын
Please don’t be moving to Redding… please… 😅
@VitalTruthTell6 ай бұрын
Oh I thought ALAN said yes I know I will also be investigated and I want that. I thought it was very important when I saw it, it nullifies some accusations.
@quirkyCourtney6 ай бұрын
I will say one thing about the chokehold picture. Where I’m from, this would be a normal silly thing to do… It doesn’t mean it’s right and it doesn’t mean it’s appropriate, but I do know a lot of guy friends who like to joke like that or who would do something like that… Especially posing for a picture. My own husband jokes like that from time to time, and I do too with him. There is no aggression within this type of joking. When we do it and from childhood, I have never thought of it that way. When I saw this picture the first time, I did think, that was what was happening here. And even though it seems that Mike has a long-standing history of abuse and inappropriate behavior… I have personally witnessed him joking like this with other people, including men, and everyone was having fun and laughing, and there was no perceived aggression behind it. So I think this is one of those particular things where people might be trying tosqueeze milk out of a dry utter.
@WakeUpandWinPodcast6 ай бұрын
Multiple women say that he did this to them. It's so odd. I'm 41 years old and have been in ministry and business off and on for 20 years. I have never seen a leader do this to a woman in a joking manner or otherwise. It is so odd.
@WakeUpandWinPodcast6 ай бұрын
Not sure if you heard the episode of the girl who was brand new at IHOPKC and walking down the hall- Mike grabbed her by the neck and pushed her up against the wall and said: "I like you." Then laughed and walked away. She was very scarred and confused as a new student. This is his norm and at best it's greatly unwise and at worst it's grooming and boundary pushing....
@tanyaforet58316 ай бұрын
I am 66 years old and obviously from another generation, but I have never seen or heard of anyone who does such a thing; and an international ministry leader??
@jmkqfnvyl876 ай бұрын
Among longstanding freinds. . . Maybe. Someone you just met. Absolutely not. Shows a lack of impulse control.😅.
@mimicaban95516 ай бұрын
it is completely inappropriate behavior for a minister or person in a place of power to use. a narcissist would say: i was just joking. oh you're being too sensitive! can't you take a joke etc etc. it is ONLY a joke if all parties are comfortable with it AND if it is appropriate AND if the people who think it is OK have not been groomed to think it is OK. "hazing" and racist comments used to be OK and "just a joke" etc too. But it didn't make them right. And changes were made eventually because those things were wrong. If a person says: i didn't like it, it made me uncomfortable, it scared or intimidated me etc then it is not a joke and not funny. But back to my first point, it is NEVER appropriate for a man in ministry in a position of great authority and power to do this to young women. Especially ones that are new and very vulnerable. It is also a technique of "rough grooming" done in front of others to "normalize" behavior that is not healthy. Everyone laughs it off and the victim starts to doubt their own feelings of sensing it is wrong OR their feelings of feeling fear or uncomfortable etc It sets that person up for possible later abuse. It is a systemic thing and it becomes: Oh, that's just Mike. YOU know how he is, lol.
@glorialovesChrist6 ай бұрын
It's so hard for boomers and war babies to be transparent and accountable. Xyzers Daddy God is empowering us to confess our faults. Be ethical, moral and godly ✝️🕊️💜🔥
@davidhicks79096 ай бұрын
I'm guessing you mean by xyzers - Gen x, millennial, Gen z? Interesting theory about the generations, and what they struggle with. Maybe.
@teohproject6 ай бұрын
I’ve been trying to contact Christianity Today and World magazine to cover this story in conjunction with Julie Roy’s. Please contact them as well and more, this needs attention.
@Hip_hop_ataymus6 ай бұрын
Where are the fathers of the Jane does? I can tell you what I would do if my daughter went through this and it wouldn’t be pretty for mike
@annaferrone34176 ай бұрын
I need prayer
@goodlikemedicine6 ай бұрын
No empathy and no heart. This is what living through Media does to you. Life is not REAL
@goodlikemedicine6 ай бұрын
That is so good thank God for his humility he is a plant my God to save the soul of a nation who have looked through these leaders to be genuine representatives of God and they are not they are not they are not not not
@goodlikemedicine6 ай бұрын
Riveting...thank you Lord for saving me from this!!!
@jbuckley25156 ай бұрын
Amen! Good talk and good prayer!
@debbyhathcock45566 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@donnaeid28626 ай бұрын
In agreement with your prayer in the end!
@sherylT19706 ай бұрын
Ha ha! “I feel like a Boomer here when it comes to navigating X…” 😂 Well, coming from a Boomer (proud to be one because we were the first to question authority), you’re on the right track and we support you!
@stengerp16 ай бұрын
Many blessings in your move 🎉
@AlizaDasha6 ай бұрын
Did the women sin too. Yes, absolutely. Even though they were deceived and lied too; they still sinned. But Mile was the preacher. He held the spiritual leadership position. He was in the position of authority and trust over these young women. He was also much older, and a person in a position of authority and trust. He is the one who is held responsible, he abused his authority and used his position of trust to take advantage of young women. I think he is guilty. Before the law of the land? I don't know. Maybe. Whether or not the women want him punished is beside the point, and even though they sinned too is beside the point. Mile still deserves punishment. They didn't sin to near the magnitude of mile . But yes they still sinned and must repent before God. They were deceived and used by Mile. Sinned against in a horrible way. Numerous women over a period of years. That is just evil, no matter what the law says. God's standards remain no matter how many men break them. Mile knew better, and yet led women into sin against God. Mile was supposed to be leading people to trust and obey Jesus and repent of their sins. And instead he made shipwreck of people's faith and was leading them to fail spiritually and jeopardizing the eternal welfare of the people he was responsible for. People looked up to and followed him all around the world. He was in a position of spiritual influence, money and power. That spiritual sin even far surpasses the physical sin and lies; as egregious and deserving punishment as they are. He was a "spiritual shepherd" but made sin/ sexual immorality/ unfaithfulness to God/ deception/ lies and depravity out be trivial and love of the world, money and greed and delicious living to be sought after instead. 2 Peter 2 16 but was rebuked for his own transgression; a speechless donkey spoke with human voice and restrained the prophet's madness. 17 These are waterless springs and mists driven by a storm. For them the gloom of utter darkness has been reserved. 18 For, speaking loud boasts of folly, they entice by sensual passions of the flesh those who are barely escaping from those who live in error. 12 These are hidden reefs[a] at your love feasts, as they feast with you without fear, shepherds feeding themselves; waterless clouds, swept along by winds; fruitless trees in late autumn, twice dead, uprooted; 13 wild waves of the sea, casting up the foam of their own shame; wandering stars, for whom the gloom of utter darkness has been reserved forever. Jude 14 It was also about these that Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of his holy ones, 15 to execute judgment on all and to convict all the ungodly of all their deeds of ungodliness that they have committed in such an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things that ungodly sinners have spoken against him