Indonesia's Transgender Muslims (Documentary)

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11 жыл бұрын

Indonesian trans people, or Warias, still feel the urge to practice Islam despite being shunned by Islamic Authorities.
We headed to Indonesia to visit the Senin-Kamis School, an Islamic school for Indonesian trans people. Our host, Hannah Brooks, meets the school's founder, Maryani, and the rest of the ladies who call this place home. Then Hannah is taken to a local funeral, where Maryani speaks about the difficulties of living as trans and a practicing Muslim.
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@JustinBieberFan957
@JustinBieberFan957 9 жыл бұрын
fucking thumbnail scared the shit out of me
@SkaFredrick
@SkaFredrick 9 жыл бұрын
Mark Thomas because it looked like your mother
@reddavis4808
@reddavis4808 9 жыл бұрын
Mark Thomas I thought it was a Gypsy Zombie.
@lucamesini7667
@lucamesini7667 8 жыл бұрын
Mark Thomas Ahahahah agree
@The7nUp
@The7nUp 8 жыл бұрын
+Mark Thomas LOL!! does mohomet approve of this? LOL!!!
@aliciawidjaja2537
@aliciawidjaja2537 8 жыл бұрын
+Mark Thomas HAHAH ME TOO I JUMPED
@Cindy-xg6yn
@Cindy-xg6yn 9 жыл бұрын
I think people are the main problem, not God.
@Cindy-xg6yn
@Cindy-xg6yn 9 жыл бұрын
banana aya playa I don't care what religion people believe in or whether they believe in no religion. People should just be nice to others and not cause harm. Show some respect. They're not cramping other people's personal everyday lives. It's their life. They deserve to be happy.
@hanahivy286
@hanahivy286 9 жыл бұрын
Cindy Lam agree! !!
@silver4831
@silver4831 9 жыл бұрын
Cindy Lam "People should just be nice to others and not cause harm." Should trump any Religious belief, as this matters much more then a imaginary God being happy.
@Roberto-ob6ee
@Roberto-ob6ee 9 жыл бұрын
How could be that people are so attached to religion?to something that was created so far away in time whose points couldn't fit and understand the contemporary society! We have come far in terms of civil rights human rights freedom and we have become more opened about diversity but still people rather than try to see through differencies would prefer seeing what's written in some old holy books!now i wonder what's religion? Something that allow you to love and understand and be united to other human beings or just an excuse to hate and judge others more openly and freely??
@Shutouts
@Shutouts 9 жыл бұрын
God is nothing.
@caseygrayson2275
@caseygrayson2275 5 жыл бұрын
At 23:35 when the host is trying to sing, one of the waria's says, "Pasty face can't roll her R's for shit" had me laughing so hard! LOL! This documentary was amazing. I learned a lot.
@apple_dragon226
@apple_dragon226 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@dandybrandy451
@dandybrandy451 Жыл бұрын
I've been looking through the comments to see if anyone else caught that! 🤣🤣hilarious. And then poor pasty face couldn't dance on beat for the life of her either.
@caseygrayson2275
@caseygrayson2275 Жыл бұрын
@@dandybrandy451 Yes!!! You’re right! Her dancing was really offbeat! 🤣 I think Pasty face is a nice person though! She meant well! 😂
@arlbs
@arlbs 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a muslimah and an Indonesian. I'm not here to hate warias, nor to judge them. In fact, i have neighbors that are warias and we're just as fine. I just want say, i hope they can live their life, and happy with their choice, and may Allah give us hidayah so we can be better human beings. Amen.🙏
@DefinitelyNotAdolfHitler
@DefinitelyNotAdolfHitler 5 жыл бұрын
theres no need to harass them, these people need attention and we have to provide
@radialvaris9054
@radialvaris9054 5 жыл бұрын
amalia lubis nah ini, pinter. Jgn dibully tapi didoakan agar mereka dapat hidayah supaya mereka kembali ke kebenaran. Bukan malah dimaklumi hanya karena mereka baik dan rajin beribadah. Tetep yg salah adalah salah, doakan mreka supaya kembali ke jalan yg benar
@anandpandey2567
@anandpandey2567 5 жыл бұрын
Transwoman are not warias eww
@yuriboyka8366
@yuriboyka8366 5 жыл бұрын
not "Amen" "Aamiin"
@shanniworld8310
@shanniworld8310 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. But in the states they get protected status and then they want to be in all of us ladies private spaces. These men use this to invade the space of women then they become angry and start attacking women. Keep them in check. Don't give them special rights they are not women, they are not men they are ??? and they get no special treatments.
@DarlyFofa
@DarlyFofa 9 жыл бұрын
I'm an atheist, but for some reason I loved how Maryani said that even the prostitutes and thieves would be forgiven by god. I think she has a heart bigger than herself and doesn't understand hate or prejudice, even after being a victim for her entire life.
@TheKawaiiDemon
@TheKawaiiDemon 9 жыл бұрын
Paisley Plays What M8? Uh, youre saying that "the gods" make natural disasters happen? Yeah, no.
@DarlyFofa
@DarlyFofa 9 жыл бұрын
TheKawaiiDemon They definitely don't, because that would require existing in the first place, but since you also don't believe in their power and intervention in the world, I'm guessing you're an atheist as well.
@TheKawaiiDemon
@TheKawaiiDemon 9 жыл бұрын
lol im a man of science.
@explosivedoctrine1424
@explosivedoctrine1424 9 жыл бұрын
***** Homosexuality and Bisexuality are observed in thousands of species other than humans, and is completely natural. How could it be anything other than natural since we are natural creatures. as for transsexuals i don't know enough about whats going on to say anything but why is it so hard for people to accept who they are and leave them alone. Why not honor their wish to be called something even if biologically they're something else? Judging from your comment you are a sheep, a sheep to whatever religion leads you to these beliefs.
@justin9774
@justin9774 9 жыл бұрын
**he**
@andrielisilien
@andrielisilien 8 жыл бұрын
"My job is to raise my daughter." I wish more people had that understanding to put your child(ren) first. Wow.
@gwennyx5815
@gwennyx5815 6 жыл бұрын
andrielisilien Hello :) I don't think this is right. Of course your children are very very important, but parents stay women, men, lovers, girls, boys,... with individual dreams even if they have children. Your own life is as important as your children's.
@chillytoes1
@chillytoes1 6 жыл бұрын
wtf are you talking about? there are many people who believe and act as great parents!! yes, there are shitty parents but there are also a lot of great parents, and i think that is the majority not the rule!
@Sook995
@Sook995 6 жыл бұрын
andrielisilien I have 4, but I come first , they can't take care of themselves or me so I have to be taken care of first, kids 2nd, as long as they are taking care of it doesn't matter whose first or who's second you have love in your heart to take care of children it should be okay no matter what they don't have to come 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th or 6th just take care of them
@AK-jr2gi
@AK-jr2gi 6 жыл бұрын
I think better to let the kids starve than do this kind of stuff that can get you abused/killed/arrested. Kids starving is bad, but other income can be made
@Trilliman707
@Trilliman707 2 жыл бұрын
Allah is first always
@kha7072
@kha7072 6 жыл бұрын
I’m a muslim, but i’m in no place to criticise these other muslims for living how they are. If they are happy doing this, let them do it. Allah will judge them, so we shouldn’t. If you want to be respected as a muslim, respect others first. Even if you don’t completely understand.
@AK-jr2gi
@AK-jr2gi 6 жыл бұрын
They respect others but no one seems to respect them :(
@bluedelight4318
@bluedelight4318 5 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment. And I agree with you 100%
@wasguckstdu3538
@wasguckstdu3538 5 жыл бұрын
Albi Kovi Yes, but Allah don't want to change your sexuality. When he makes you a man or women, then you should accept it. When you dont accept it, you automatically against him. This makes no sense. You dont respect his choise.
@nabilrehi2143
@nabilrehi2143 5 жыл бұрын
that is why the creator is gonna destroy you all,you new testament followers and bukhari followers
@garsban2
@garsban2 5 жыл бұрын
I am Muslim Sunni and I know the truth Indonesia + Malaysia + shit UAE / Dubai nasty shit + All these countries are called themselves Islamic countries are in fact not real Islamic countries They are secular countries Even Saudi Arabia (the Saudi government / Saudi regime is a so secular and so hypocritical regime / government is slave to America and Iran is just a Shia heretical state = Iran is Not real Islamic country = Iran is Influenced by the ancient Persian Zoroastrian sentiment (Hateful spiteful Persian Zoroastrian) and the ancient Persian history before Islam
@asbun123
@asbun123 6 жыл бұрын
terlepas dari kata waria.. stidaknya sebagai umat muslim dia sudah mencoba dan melaksanakan ibadah kepada allah s.w.t..... sedangkan banyak orang yang merasa dirinya baik secara gender malah tidak melaksanakan ibadah.. stop menyalahkan mari merangkul....peace
@niaurina98
@niaurina98 6 жыл бұрын
dede aditya ini maksudku!! akhirnya
@haryowah
@haryowah 6 жыл бұрын
Sholatnya ga diterima
@asbun123
@asbun123 6 жыл бұрын
wkwkwk.. makasi atas responnya mas... hebat skali anda bisa mengetahui shlaat seseorang diterima atau tidak...hanya allah yang tau mas... malahan walaupun kita ini pejudi, pezina atai segala macam tetap dianjurkan buat shlat... karena kita berhrp dengan shalat allah membimbing kita dan setidknya dia udah berusaha... saya tanya anda udah menjaga shalat anda belum. kalau sudah saya berharap shalat anda bisa mengajarkan kerendahan hati dalam melihat sesama... terimakasih
@haryowah
@haryowah 6 жыл бұрын
Terima kasih sudah diingatkan mas dede. Namun yg saya tau waktu ngaji dulu bahwa mengubah kodrat laki-laki menjadi perempuan itu sama saja dengan tidak puas terhadap ciptaan Allah SWT. Masa laki-laki sholat pakai mukena?
@asbun123
@asbun123 6 жыл бұрын
ngeeeh mas.. tapi yaa itu udah pilihan dia.. dia juga udah mikir baik buruk ama dia kok mas... tpi yaa.. secara umum... saya mendukung sikap para teman teman diatas yang masih menjaga agama.. padhal mereka dibawah tekanan sosia maupun religi.. apakah kita yang katanya normal secara genre tidak malu... saya tidak mendukung aksi menjadi waria,.. tpi saya secara pribadi iri dengan sikap mereka yang masih menjaga agama.. sementara kita yang katanya normal malah....?
@ahhmani
@ahhmani 9 жыл бұрын
I'm Muslim and I consider myself rather religious and educated about my religion, and I also consider myself a very open minded person. I watched this documentary because the idea of a Muslim transsexual is intriguing. Being transgender or gay is haram and naturally you would think that being Muslim and transgender would be contradictory, but just like they said at the end of the video, it is up to Allah (swt) to judge all human beings. One of the greatest sins in Islam is judging other people, and all of the people who continue to call the subjects of this video out for doing haram things are no better than them. Yes, they claimed to be Muslims while participating in drinking and prostitution, but no Muslim is perfect and sin free. Remember that Allah (swt) is all forgiving and merciful and they still have the potential to seek forgiveness from Allah (swt) for their sins. We do not know the relationship between these people and Allah (swt), so we can not judge them for what we see them do or what they are. It's perfectly understandable if you're Muslim and the thought of a transgender Muslim makes you uncomfortable, but the best thing is to not worry about other people's sins and try to strengthen your own relationship between you and Allah (swt) for you will be judged by your sins, not others'.
@ryanadib874
@ryanadib874 9 жыл бұрын
ahhmani : So I can start drinking and sex with same sex and ZINA and... cause it is just Allah who judges us!!!Brother, where are you taking this?
@Deaxon1
@Deaxon1 9 жыл бұрын
An open sinner has no right to be criticized at all! Where did you get this information? Our prophet would try to help them, not criticize and banish then. Where are you getting your information?
@Deaxon1
@Deaxon1 9 жыл бұрын
You're an idiot, that's the law of the sharia and that was his idea punishment when the sahabas were trying to make the sharia and of course they listened to him. You can't kill gays in countries without a law abiding by it. In saudi, if you get caught by the public being gay, then they will execute you, but no random person can just go and kill them, they don't have the authority to do that, the person that was caught MUST go to court first. no civilian has the right to murder another even if they do shirk, only if they are caught doing it, the judge sentences them to the punishment, then the HADD must be carried out, that's what they did during the prophets time.
@Deaxon1
@Deaxon1 9 жыл бұрын
No,'you have it wrong. Only in the muslim countries can they do that because the suSpected sinner has to go through court. You can't just randomly kill a homosexual or a polytheist in a country with no muslim leader.
@citadine7203
@citadine7203 9 жыл бұрын
***** @2015Boo boo...learn about compassion if not acceptance.
@TorbenRudgaard
@TorbenRudgaard 8 жыл бұрын
I live in Thailand and here we have a LOT of muslim ladyboys from Dubai, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Abu Dhabi, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan and we even met one from Afghanistan. They usually hang out near the place I smoke Shisha and we talked to some of them and they are really cool girls/guys. How great is Thailand to accept everyone as they are, no matter religion, nationality or sexual orientation!!
@Satrina777
@Satrina777 8 жыл бұрын
Torben Rudgaard Ladyboys is a horrible name. However there is a huge difference between a transvestite (ladyboy) and a transsexual. Ladyboy is the equivalent of the word shemale, and both are equally as offensive to a woman trapped in the wrong body (transsexual). Ladyboys originally never meant transsexuals. That is something ignorant people have associated them with, but ladyboys were originally the asian version of a drag queen pretty much.
@VicGuevara
@VicGuevara 8 жыл бұрын
accept everyone, except rohingya??? wtf
@TorbenRudgaard
@TorbenRudgaard 8 жыл бұрын
Sally Rispoli Ladyboy, TomBoy, Transvestite, Transexual, Crossdresser... I respect them all and will call them what ever they prefer me to call them :)
@7montrell
@7montrell 8 жыл бұрын
+Torben Rudgaard You probably on the Down Low.
@mrboonz
@mrboonz 8 жыл бұрын
+Vic Guevara rohingya is in myanmar bro, not in thailand
@danialashraf99
@danialashraf99 7 жыл бұрын
RIP Maryani (1960-2014) May Allah almighty bless you😭
@adeliahana587
@adeliahana587 5 жыл бұрын
Aww noo :(( god bless her. Rest in peace
@iwakalbus3970
@iwakalbus3970 5 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace, Bu...
@meowth785
@meowth785 5 жыл бұрын
Innalillahi, rest in peace
@nurfatinamira3727
@nurfatinamira3727 5 жыл бұрын
إِنَّا اللهِ وَإِنَّا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعُونَ May Allah bless her soul
@sendypyunpyun4495
@sendypyunpyun4495 5 жыл бұрын
Sakit kah?
@skywalkerhunter95
@skywalkerhunter95 6 жыл бұрын
ah, dont forget that indonesia has Bunda Dorce who had a great tv show, kindof indonesian oprah, and shes a transgender so basically indonesia has its own Caitlyn Jenner even long before the US has Caitlyn😆😊
@natasya0618
@natasya0618 6 жыл бұрын
Skywalker Hunter Plus she has done more good than harm.
@abunnie7794
@abunnie7794 5 жыл бұрын
Dorce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caitlyn jenner
@bluedelight4318
@bluedelight4318 5 жыл бұрын
Dorce definitely much better than Jenner
@kelisado03
@kelisado03 4 жыл бұрын
Acah la
@jules8029
@jules8029 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why Catlin Jenner has been put on pedestal. There's people in the world doing what she did but they actually create change and have a positive effect on the world, like this woman.
@KrimsonVagus
@KrimsonVagus 10 жыл бұрын
For those of you wondering: YES, transgender is against Islam. However, as long as the transgender person is not causing any harm, there is NO POINT in persecuting them. In fact, the best thing we could do as Muslims, Christians or Buddhists etc.. is to LEAVE THEM ALONE! Let them do what they want. God will judge in the end, not us... Peace
@marbee94
@marbee94 10 жыл бұрын
Thou art amazing! :) Keep doing what you do man :P
@mm-wu6vj
@mm-wu6vj 9 жыл бұрын
the fact that they're admitting themselves as islam when they're not!
@isabellaconklin2841
@isabellaconklin2841 9 жыл бұрын
This just shows why being LGBT is not a choice but how you are born. Why would someone choose to lead a difficult life as an outcast. These women are true to themselves and their faith. If God doesn't make mistakes you shouldn't make his followers outcasts.
@Gelphratchoo
@Gelphratchoo 9 жыл бұрын
moevana12 If god designed male and female, why is it that so many people fall out of those categories? Who are born without clear definition to either? If god designed human beings then surely he designed whoever appears on the earth since for those who have christian faith believe he created everything?? Pretty sure god didn't go 'oops, my bad, that one was a mistake' and then do it MILLIONS more times. If he had a 'template' for how people were supposed to be, then either that template is different from the one you seem to think it is, or he truly is a master of exceptions to the rule.
@moevana12
@moevana12 9 жыл бұрын
There's no one who falls out of those categories; if you have a penis, you're male, if you have a vagina, you're female.
@Gelphratchoo
@Gelphratchoo 9 жыл бұрын
Not true. There are PLENTY of people who fall out of those categories and have different gender identities. The fact that you don't see those people talking about it in every day life is because they are judged - exactly how you are doing now. There are a BUNCH of different criteria that are used to define biological sex at birth. Genitalia is only one of them. The others are things like Hormones, Chromosomes, Gonads (Uterus/Testes) or Secondary Sex Characteristics such as facial hair. There is such a thing as someone who is intersex. Someone who doesn't fit the criteria for one or the other. Gender is so much more variable than you think, and just because you haven't educated yourself about it, doesn't mean it's okay to inflict that lack of knowledge on other people. You think you know everything. You do not.
@moevana12
@moevana12 9 жыл бұрын
Alexae B A person who gives us free will and the opportunity of life doesn't define "malevolent" to me. In the book of Acts, Peter receives a dream from God about the pork, etc. issue. 1 Corinthians is in the New Testament, thus being proof that we should still pay attention to that Leviticus verse. What greatly amuses me is that I used the ESV version and you obviously used NIV, but you're saying I "added" something. "Men" can go for women too. For example, when I'm writing a paper, I usually write "he" as the dominant pronoun as a shortener for "he or she" when I am making a generalization.
@silver4831
@silver4831 9 жыл бұрын
moevana12 "A person who gives us free will and the opportunity of life doesn't define "malevolent" to me. " You missed out the eternal hell-fire if you don't follow a rigid and contradicting set of rules. Its hardly free will when someone had a gun pointed at you. Also the fact why God simply does not remove Sin, instead lets everybody suffer while testing them. "In the book of Acts, Peter receives a dream from God about the pork, etc. issue. 1 Corinthians is in the New Testament, thus being proof that we should still pay attention to that Leviticus verse. Jesus already told you to follow the teachings of the Old, so why not stone people to death and ect?
@pinkablues
@pinkablues 6 жыл бұрын
I like how neutral the reporter is
@rafaelmaleakhilumbanbatu9873
@rafaelmaleakhilumbanbatu9873 5 жыл бұрын
well she must be, although we dont know what her truly think
@user-kc4vm9dw3t
@user-kc4vm9dw3t 2 жыл бұрын
Assalamualaikum
@alaykasptra
@alaykasptra 6 жыл бұрын
as an indonesian and a muslim, i never knew there was such openness; im proud
@lust3390
@lust3390 10 жыл бұрын
The comments make me sick, I'm trans and it has nothing to do with any thing, it is a small tinsy part of who I am. If you do not like or accept trans people then *WHY THE FUCK* are you watching this? Bunch of hateful christians and muslims hating on us. Doesn't your fictional books teach you to love and accept everyone? How does a fictional story book about love spread so much hate it's disgusting! On a side note I'd like to say a personal thank you to Vice for giving us a voice, our lives are not easy. People hate us for something we cannot control we just try to live as ourselves to be happy. Thank you for the work you do for us trans women. We are not monsters we are simply human like the rest of you.
@lust3390
@lust3390 10 жыл бұрын
ghali mehadji I appreciate that, I've talked and even dated a few Muslim guys, I know not all are bigots just sad there are so many out there!
@alexortiz4505
@alexortiz4505 10 жыл бұрын
your trans couldn't tell by your pic......stay beautiful :)
@lust3390
@lust3390 10 жыл бұрын
Aww thank you
@DaiReborn
@DaiReborn 10 жыл бұрын
You rock, I'm glad to find at least one positive, supportive and non-transphobic comment thread for this video. I wonder what woukd happen if HRT were available and affordable for this community, and they could pass in the streets as women? Would that spare them some of the hatred and violence?
@lust3390
@lust3390 10 жыл бұрын
DaiReborn I doubt there would be an issue. In my personal experience anyone that has met me has no idea I'm transgender unless I've told them or they knew me as a kid. I think it has more to do with the fact they can point it out. I'll tell ya something, the guys that are screaming about us needed to be burnt etc etc etc are the ones that google our porn and jerk off to us. The ones that bark the loudest want us sexually the most.
@ronaldriddick
@ronaldriddick 9 жыл бұрын
im tired of seeing people bashing islam just stop the reason why blacks are in the americas and the reason native american population is down to dangerous levels is not because of islam but because of "christian" and "catholics". We need to stop bashing the religion for the wrongs of people but to place the blame on the people doing the wrongs, its that simple. I believe there is a god or gods no doubt that controls the ways of the universe but I dont believe in jesus and mohammed and all of that but at least respect peoples belief.
@ThekraSS
@ThekraSS 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ronaldriddick
@ronaldriddick 9 жыл бұрын
No problem! Theres way too much Anti-Islam propaganda right now its ridiculous. My parents are Muslim and are great people its isn't the religion that poisons people its the opposite.
@Mramin9808
@Mramin9808 9 жыл бұрын
Ronald Riddick I cried.Faith in humanity restored.T-T
@ronaldriddick
@ronaldriddick 9 жыл бұрын
Shafiqul Xhaka haha yeah man its still some people in the world left with brains lol!
@ronaldriddick
@ronaldriddick 9 жыл бұрын
Read my complete comment all people in all religions have done some wrong but my point is that it isn't the religion that is doing it its the corrupt people who are doing it.
@syifaamusa
@syifaamusa 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like the reporter did amazingly at adapting into the environment as well as making the warias feel comfortable with her presence. May Allah be with Maryani and the strong warias.
@Lia-py1qo
@Lia-py1qo 5 жыл бұрын
Yass Tomi a typical response from a self centered religious prick. Get out
@notalaeyt784
@notalaeyt784 5 жыл бұрын
+Fadhila He's not a self centered religious prick, he is just saying the truth, it is HARAM to be gay/transexual or anything other than straight in islam.
@Lia-py1qo
@Lia-py1qo 5 жыл бұрын
Jo Stal then literally fuck any religion lmao discriminating a group when they did no harm is pathetic
@Lia-py1qo
@Lia-py1qo 5 жыл бұрын
Jo Stal i don't either i have a strong dislike towards the lgbt community but i don't hate trans and/or gay people
@Farouk04839
@Farouk04839 5 жыл бұрын
Jo Stal It’s not haram to have feelings towards the same sex, because you can’t control them, but it’s strictly forbidden to act accordingly to these same feelings. You’re not considered accountable for things you can’t control such as feelings, but rather for how you use them, either in a good way or in a bad way.
@eviesibarani9001
@eviesibarani9001 5 жыл бұрын
Konten ini membuat perspektifku tentang waria literally berubah.. Dr dulu takut banget sama waria, apalagi kalau disamperin pas mereka ngamen bisa sampe merinding kaku sangkin parnonya. Padahal mereka juga manusia, mereka jauh lebih baik ngamen drpada berkecimpung di dunia prostitusi. Maafkan aku yg dulu.. Thanks Vice :')
@ibadkain5287
@ibadkain5287 4 жыл бұрын
waria muda bahaya bro.. kalo mereka bergerombol dan kamu sndirian bisa aja kok kamu diperkosa krn nafsu mereka itu nafsu lelaki.. cenderung ofensif
@u6848
@u6848 3 жыл бұрын
@@ibadkain5287 gak semua cowok begitu.
@hansel.2105
@hansel.2105 2 жыл бұрын
@@ibadkain5287 Waria itu Mereka Nafsunya Cewek krn Mereka perempuan terjebak dalam Raga laki laki . #transwomenarewomen
@ardinsalim9048
@ardinsalim9048 8 жыл бұрын
For you who love and respect Ibu Mariani, she' passed away in may 2014 and now her legacy the islamic boarding school she built are closed because Muslim extremist threatening the place
@ayembic7933
@ayembic7933 6 жыл бұрын
If maryani was right about her God being compassionate and just, she'll be in paradise now. I have so much respect for her fortitude, leadership and creativity even as a non muslim and I hope the other warias in java find safety and happiness in the future
@rumahbambu
@rumahbambu 6 жыл бұрын
so sad
@Nvr990
@Nvr990 6 жыл бұрын
ardin salim apa benar? kamu tahu darimana?
@UmUhKet26
@UmUhKet26 6 жыл бұрын
ardin salim reference please?
@dhyanz1
@dhyanz1 6 жыл бұрын
the true is, ya she passed away but the islamic boarding school are not close, the place only move to the other place and its still exist until now. the end of last year my friend try to have a research about them but she has to pay to them.
@adeebakausar606
@adeebakausar606 8 жыл бұрын
I am a muslim and I have to say i really respect maryana, her dedication to god really hit me and its true, god looks at whats on the inside and her heart and spirit must be of gold
@user-ch9sb9gj1e
@user-ch9sb9gj1e 6 жыл бұрын
first they are third gender which is not supported by God. and Islam never accept nor justify his evil doing. he have to pray as man and it is insulting to his religion to pray as women. total haram acts
@brotchenkorner3944
@brotchenkorner3944 6 жыл бұрын
don´t listen to them, adeeba kausar. You are totally right that the dedication and love for god and for you fellow human beings is what counts. God teaches us compassion, and to blindly follow rules
@aisyahkhan9745
@aisyahkhan9745 6 жыл бұрын
Varell Tarnee are you muslim?
@brotchenkorner3944
@brotchenkorner3944 6 жыл бұрын
Aisyah khan No, but I believe that there is somebody watching out for us. And that we should all respect each other.
@DedaunanBerbisik
@DedaunanBerbisik 5 жыл бұрын
isa thats only in ur mindset.... please respect others mindset... in fact, he is born as a male... not a hermaphrodite when he is born...
@spacemopsi
@spacemopsi 6 жыл бұрын
Being human is not a crime!
@cxarhomell5867
@cxarhomell5867 3 жыл бұрын
In islam it is varied.
@insertcreativeusernamehere4954
@insertcreativeusernamehere4954 3 жыл бұрын
Being religious should be one
@vinzlinardobnimaga7204
@vinzlinardobnimaga7204 3 жыл бұрын
@@cxarhomell5867 I always see you in the comment replies on lgbt related videos from Genetically Modified Skeptic and a video about gay men in the arab world to this. What really is your deal?
@bukostuff
@bukostuff 6 жыл бұрын
it's really important to remember that lgbt issues span further than just where we live... videos like these really shut down the argument that being trans is something that only exists in countries like america.
@livewellwitheds6885
@livewellwitheds6885 2 жыл бұрын
yes!
@robotsibyl
@robotsibyl 9 жыл бұрын
Maryani's such a beautiful gentle compassionate person. wow. and her daughter is clearly so loved and happy. the saddest thing about this is that anyone could be so blind to the reality of those sublime qualities. people who consider themselves remotely spiritual (but are so poisonous and damning) have a lot to learn from the humility and tenderness of those they judge and reject.
@SuperCahaya91
@SuperCahaya91 10 жыл бұрын
if they are real muslim, they need to live as who they are..if u are a man...live as a man...if u are a woman, live as a woman....i cant accept this...u are not thank enough what ALLAH swt gave u...so disappointed
@henrywillis2381
@henrywillis2381 10 жыл бұрын
People do not choose to be transsexuals they just are..... they are people who are born in the wrong body.....who the hell are you to judge these people?
@ThunderPelocho
@ThunderPelocho 10 жыл бұрын
An imaginary entity's puppet.
@joannem8238
@joannem8238 10 жыл бұрын
What an incredibly ignorant thing to say, NUR CAHAYA.
@SuperCahaya91
@SuperCahaya91 10 жыл бұрын
its my business seem its about my religion...
@BS34BY
@BS34BY 10 жыл бұрын
***** dont bother fighting with this Nur. She's a Malaysian and Malaysia is an Islamic nation. The views of Islam over here (yes I'm Malaysian myself) is rather extreme. Few examples: 1. Christians are literally forbidden to say Allah, but the funny thing is Allah is literally 'God', in Arabic, and Islam doesn't hold any right to the world 'Allah'. 2. Not allowed to wish Merry Christmas to people who celebrate, or Valentines, or even Mothers day. Its a shirk. Even if your intention was to wish others who celebrate. Only god knows when our birthdays are illegal for Muslims to celebrate to just because some highly educated Mufti's issued fatwas thinking its for the god almighty. Yeah, Syria's new fatwa about allowing the raping of non-Sunni Muslim's is really great for the god almighty. Allahuakbar. *sarcastic This Nur, clearly is indoctrinated heavily about a rather narrow view in Islam (again, quite extreme), because in Malaysia the national TV channels shows lectures from religious people, and this religious people gives narrow, traditional views, not open minded at all. Its not only on TV channels, its also on radios, every single day. She is defending her religion indeed, but its from her view. Indonesians on the other hand is more open, therefore they have their own view about transsexuals and about god accepting them for who they are. In real truth, Islam does not accept transsexuals, but who are we to judge them? Are we really that perfect, to judge someone else? To Nur, she is. Why? Islamic indoctrination and holier-than-thou attitude at its best.
@taniaba6242
@taniaba6242 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I am really touched by this remarkable woman. Much respect for her.
@puspaandhiraraudhya1713
@puspaandhiraraudhya1713 6 жыл бұрын
To be honest this is my favourite vice documentary of all time. I absolutely love the way Hannah explained the situation, it has a really interesting theme since I can see the different sides of transvestites in Yogyakarta. I absolutely liked the way they worship god and explain why they believed in gos, for me they're much better than the extrimist here in Indonesia haha. So much respect for Maryani may her soul rest in peace.
@lostpelican1883
@lostpelican1883 8 жыл бұрын
They seem like nice people. What is the point to be hateful toward people one does not understand, if they are causing no harm to you? That is something I don't understand about people. The hateful comments on here aren't surprising--everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I'll just never understand people who are so bothered by what others are doing if it doesn't actually affect them in any way.
@comradezvezda
@comradezvezda 6 жыл бұрын
One word. Religion, everybody in this country do this because the book told them too
@booyah8715
@booyah8715 6 жыл бұрын
They believe that lgbt is some sort of dieseas that can b spread when ur contacting or having a strong realitonship with the person
@liv1522
@liv1522 6 жыл бұрын
No one believes its a virus. It is a mental disorder. It's the same as a person believing they were a dog and that they need to have sex with dogs because of it. It's the same as a person tricking themselves that they come from mars or that they are in need of murdering people because that's apparently "who they are". Not only did this man mutilate his body, he tries to make others believe he's something he's not. If some guy comes out and says he's a road will you run over him? No, you wouldn't, unless you were some kind of psycho. If I go and buy a police uniform, car, and gun does that make me a police officer? No, it doesn't. I'm just playing dress up and pretending to be something I'm not. I'm not being negative by saying this, I'm only speaking the truth. It literally makes me sad that you people can't see the truth. And instead of trying to understand the truth you all treat me as a bigot when I share my opinions on things if it's not the same as the more powerful party's opinion. And it's true that those kinds of behaviors can spread with close relations and contact with a person. It's called peer pressure and it's taught in Psychology 1101 as a Freshman in college (I'm not sure of the ages of everyone or when or if you went to college and how college was or will be when you go or went, but that's how it is for me). When people are in close contact you take on behaviors from one another and take on behaviors you see on the regular bases. People are social beings. You will find yourself or subconsciously start behaving more and more like the people around you. Everyone is born with a personality, but it can be slightly altered by your surroundings. An influential person who has not strong held their own personality, like most millennials these days, is highly susceptible to the unnatural behavior of homosexuality. I don't care if you want to keep being the way you're being, but don't act like it's something normal or that should be accepted.
@puspaandhiraraudhya1713
@puspaandhiraraudhya1713 6 жыл бұрын
el sombra some of the Indonesian is intolerant little bitch, so yknow...
@georgesoros8589
@georgesoros8589 6 жыл бұрын
QueenOlivia Ross you dumb bitch, science says homosexuality is partially nature and nuture
@yellowskittle73
@yellowskittle73 9 жыл бұрын
It's so moving that these people still find purpose in their lives even though it seems like all odds are against them. These people are so inspirational and brave.
@MrVarhansen
@MrVarhansen 6 ай бұрын
Stunning and brave
@goofysufi
@goofysufi 2 жыл бұрын
Warias existed in Makkah. The people wanted to kill them but the Prophet (s) said they pray like Muslims and they have the right to live like a Muslim who prays. They were given a space between Makkah and Medina to live. It is best now, according to a growing number of ulama, to have gender confirmation surgery to correct the disconnect between mind and body, just as it's best to fix any other physical error. Once their bodies match their gender, trans women should abide by the shariah for women. They should marry, observe hijab, and inherit as a woman.
@peligrodefrio5303
@peligrodefrio5303 7 жыл бұрын
omg... how dare you put in "singin in foreign language" there. Thats not singing!. Thats actually reading. I'm Turkish and idk how to translate it for you, but we turkish people call it "ezan" and that is from the Quran and they are reading it. so dont call it "singing"
@sarno97
@sarno97 6 жыл бұрын
Asian Scarecrow vice is stupid
@ThePartySample
@ThePartySample 8 жыл бұрын
I hope they all find happiness and success.
@kerorochan765
@kerorochan765 7 жыл бұрын
ThePartySample
@rachelnorman6072
@rachelnorman6072 8 жыл бұрын
I'm agnostic but how Maryani said about Islam and religeon in general is how it should be.
@krabbykat9918
@krabbykat9918 6 жыл бұрын
Yes miss keep your opinions to yourself
@608756
@608756 6 жыл бұрын
But, God only blesses those who obey him. Prostitution is not something of religion.
@Torag55
@Torag55 6 жыл бұрын
@Habesha Issue What else can they do then? Beg for money? Just stop talking if you have no idea of the hardships they have to go through just to live another day.
@608756
@608756 6 жыл бұрын
@Torag, it's totally unacceptable in religion for one to be prostitute. They can try other jobs like house maid, cleaning, waiters, so so.
@608756
@608756 6 жыл бұрын
@Amy Ikejiaku I have the right to condemn what is morally bad. Of course she is out of her past life now and embraced Islam. However, those girls whom she supports are in prostitution and she knows that. I was talking about not her but I was talking about the other girls who are in it. If she must support them, then she should have taken them away from this nasty job. It seems to me that she is allowing them to do it even though she is no longer in it. Even some of them are students at the Quran school. And they learn quran during the day time, and they go to prostitution at night. And the woman knows what is happening. And she is not prohibiting them from doing it. This is totally unacceptable. As a muslim, I have responsibility to condemn what is morally and socially bad. I don't need to be Allah to see what's not right. Allah gave me the intellect so it's up to me to follow the rightous path. Hope you undestand my point.
@edpiggy9238
@edpiggy9238 6 жыл бұрын
Pardon.... Why did you translate "keluar malam" as prostitution??? Maryani never said that in your video.
@darkside5674
@darkside5674 5 жыл бұрын
Edpiggy 92 karena Maryani pindai ,, dia bisa memperhalus kata..
@arthas8489
@arthas8489 5 жыл бұрын
Lihat sampai akhir.
@ihatemylife1056
@ihatemylife1056 4 жыл бұрын
Bc keluar malam literally means prostitution in this context
@sorayahylmi
@sorayahylmi 6 жыл бұрын
This is actually a very interesting documentary but to make it clear on the narrative parts when you explain the blur definition of DANGDUT, dangdut is NOT A SEXY POP, dangdut intially came from the root of Melayu ballad culture and in its development, dangdut evolved with several adaptations. Dangdut is a very rich music that can contain so many emotions. Not just POP in general. Especially “only sexy”, nope. Dangdut is more than just a music. It’s a culture.
@j-stilt9746
@j-stilt9746 5 жыл бұрын
Soraya Hylmi. Hi sexy
@parkerdinhwilliams15
@parkerdinhwilliams15 9 жыл бұрын
Well, not a fan of islam, but good luck to all who decide to become muslim. Just remember, you decide what religion to follow, you don't decide your gender or sexuality. You can control your sexual behavior and you can force yourself to act like something you're not, sure, but ultimately you don't decide your gender or sexuality. I would be totally on board with religions if they didn't spread misinformation. Everyone on here is saying its a sin to be gay or transsexual, but the truth is it is completely fine and completely ethical. Consent should be the issue at hand, not attraction.
@mirotiny
@mirotiny 9 жыл бұрын
true christianity leads 2 islam! www.alislam.org/library/books/true-christianity-leads-to-islam.html
@kingsleyzissou1120
@kingsleyzissou1120 9 жыл бұрын
If it was a sin to be homosexual, ancient Rome would have been raised to the ground by some act of God, because it was just as bad as anything in Sodom and Gomorrah. The fact that nothing of that nature has occurred in modern recorded history should give people some clue that all religious texts are nothing more than mythologies, and taking them literally is an act of stupidity.
@parkerdinhwilliams15
@parkerdinhwilliams15 9 жыл бұрын
Kingsley Zissou Besides Sodom and Gomorrah was mainly about greed wasn't it? I know there was all the anal sex happening in the background... But I'm pretty sure that story was about greed, not gay sex. Someone should tell the Vatican.
@raheldeborah
@raheldeborah 9 жыл бұрын
Finally! The only sane person here.
@MrTrollolol98
@MrTrollolol98 9 жыл бұрын
Finally some intelligent people!
@kardsh
@kardsh 8 жыл бұрын
honestly, who wouldn't be kinda annoyed when someone comes singing in your face waiting for money ? even worse when it's frequent.......
@juliencastle2953
@juliencastle2953 8 жыл бұрын
+Nafolchan Being annoyed at peoples who do that cause it's their only option along with prostitution is really not cool. It like beggars elsewhere, if you say nothing they'll go away so this "annoyment" would stoped quite fast and be nothing compared to their struggles as warias.
@kardsh
@kardsh 8 жыл бұрын
Julien Castle i did not fully understand their condition but i don't think that's their only options, there must be something else. beggars are annoying and they never believe that you have no money and if you stay quiet it just makes them stay longer. or that's how the ones i encounter are.
@juliencastle2953
@juliencastle2953 8 жыл бұрын
Nafolchan They said it was their only options with "being a thief" and if they're rejected by many peoples it's hard to imagine them having more "casual" jobs. Maybe it's possible despite the rejection they encountered but it must be harder for sure. At least they didn't choose the "thief way" and ask you to give them some money instead of merely stealing it like they could be tempted to do in such situations. They were "leaving home without money" according to what they say in this video so if their parents didn't help them when they leaved the house being younger, they probably don't help them now they're adults... No financial support and more difficulties than most of the peoples to find a stable job and you easily understand the "street singing" thing. Not soul_destroying like selling your body and more honnest than to simply rob peoples. They took the healthier and moral option here.
@sinchan2929
@sinchan2929 8 жыл бұрын
+Julien Castle Yeah Jul you're true
@kamiladini8393
@kamiladini8393 8 жыл бұрын
they would'nt be working on the street if the society accept them for an appropiate work
@renatadawn7147
@renatadawn7147 6 жыл бұрын
so refreshing to know people like this exists..
@hermione5050
@hermione5050 5 жыл бұрын
It's not the religion that rejects her, it's the people.
@gogax56
@gogax56 5 жыл бұрын
Heri Demsas you're wrong
@alexandertrinanda3728
@alexandertrinanda3728 5 жыл бұрын
No
@somewhereintheair
@somewhereintheair 5 жыл бұрын
👏true that!
@alaskanwolf450
@alaskanwolf450 5 жыл бұрын
Heri Demsas no, we reject these people for their horrible actions based on our belief. There is only man and woman, no wiggle room when it comes to this. Shit I as a man can't even wear gold as gold is exclusively for women to wear. Man is man, woman is woman.
@saige_97
@saige_97 5 жыл бұрын
AlaskanWolf oh just shut up you're so medieval it's ridiculous
@jongwirabhumi8204
@jongwirabhumi8204 7 жыл бұрын
The truth in Indonesia, Most of muslim there not the same as muslim in the Middle East. They are not bullying or never just verbally assault transgender community member. If there was any confronting action, what are they doing just strict their kids to interact with transgrender community. They believe their kids will became transgender if they too many interact with transgender. But the problem was come in early decade, when fanatic muslim minority, trying to make Indonesia the same as muslim in the middle east, they doing anything, and violence are common. They fight everything that differents with their beliefs, including LGBT. Most of these fanatics grow in part of west Java. But many city and Island goverment refused if these fanatics try to expanding their member in their authority area.
@muhammadadlan5192
@muhammadadlan5192 7 жыл бұрын
this is fuckin' true. fuck fanatism.
@karellen4913
@karellen4913 7 жыл бұрын
Jong Wirabhumi Indonesia is being destroyed by those fanatics. If the end goal of Islamist, an Islamic government in Indonesia, is realised, then I can only see 2 things happened next. Either no more "Indonesia" because of demand for independent from non-Muslim majority province, or a demonstration not unlike 1998.
@inawarminister
@inawarminister 7 жыл бұрын
Nusantara will return to become part of the Darussalam instead of being colonial playground of great powers. Amen. Together we are mighty. Separately we are naught but ants.
@jongwirabhumi8204
@jongwirabhumi8204 7 жыл бұрын
+inawarminister, making nusantara with syaria state / law not solving problem. First step non muslim will became victim. Then other muslims sect, that not as part from ruling goverment. Minority will suffer and majority become dictator. It just making nusantara as Religion Fascism.
@yoshiday3584
@yoshiday3584 6 жыл бұрын
Jong Wirabhumi ngarang!
@pwinses4eva
@pwinses4eva 9 жыл бұрын
im muslim and i actually completely respect these women (yea i said women, its the way they choose to live their lives) they have gone through so much hardship and troubles to find acceptance, and still smile and dance it off everyday wow, i salute these women and would love to meet them.
@noahandhosi
@noahandhosi 2 жыл бұрын
Astagfirualah
@mattheweburns
@mattheweburns 6 жыл бұрын
Great documentary! I love how Waria sounds like "warrior," they are fighters and deserve MORE respect for their fight. Cheers!
@pendekarsarden5410
@pendekarsarden5410 7 жыл бұрын
i love this documentary, i didn't expect to see something like this. Thank you so much, Vice!
@kornstar1988
@kornstar1988 10 жыл бұрын
They're just human...
@kornstar1988
@kornstar1988 10 жыл бұрын
But they are not harming anybody else being who they are...
@kornstar1988
@kornstar1988 10 жыл бұрын
Mentally as in how? Rapists murderers harm with intent...anybody harmed by this are just in fear of acceptance of individuality...absolutely no intention to do harm is coming from transgenders...
@SolidusRockefeller
@SolidusRockefeller 9 жыл бұрын
Very interesting documentary, I really liked the way the reported approached subjects and explained. It's amazing how even after breaking laws of Islam, some still have faith and follow the teachings even being outcasts. I can't help but note some of them are more interested in the 'safety' the town offers to the warias than the religion itself. But I guess everyone has a way of living eh! I wish all humans could gather and accept each other ways in a lawful way, and see beyong diferences and religions. Thank you very much for the documentary!
@evad4351
@evad4351 6 жыл бұрын
I think semi religious people and atheists would like that, but I dont think its possible since following a religion, really obeying and submitting to a religion means following and believing in all its rules. People who aren't very religious believe in love and kindness above all, some call it religion and might throw in a few things from the bible or koran now and then, but really don't live by the bibles word fully. Many religious people, especially those that aren't from the western world, think love and righteousness comes from following Gods word, not from humans interpretation of kindness and love (as in respecting all people and religions). Nowadays there is a tendency in western society to slightly "bend" the rules when it comes to religion, to better fit todays standard. Like believing and preaching that certain parts of the holy book, weigh more heavily than other parts. For example: Homosexual christians and supporters believe that kindness will salvage them, even though sodomy is described as a sin in the bible. Religious transsexuals believe this as well, although both the bible and koran say body mutilation is a sin. Another example is muslims who are friends with christians which the koran say is a sin. etc. etc. Religious people that really truly believe every word of their holy book, and try to live by it, would not be able to do that - while accepting all people and religions. Its just NOT possible. I am not religious by the way, like most western people I just want all to get along.
@SaltyWound
@SaltyWound 6 жыл бұрын
yup and still those outcast will probably burn in hell
@samsmitten1419
@samsmitten1419 6 жыл бұрын
Quran* not Koran
@javiervillalpando2067
@javiervillalpando2067 6 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Rockefeller Yeah her nose was longer than my dick
@javiervillalpando2067
@javiervillalpando2067 6 жыл бұрын
Indonesia has no culture that's why they adopted islam, they're lame
@alxizs796
@alxizs796 6 жыл бұрын
"Pasty face over there can't roll her R's for shit!" That part had me dead hahahaha
@TisnaDwijaputra
@TisnaDwijaputra 5 жыл бұрын
im hindu in indonesia, and i dont agree about LGBT but i still respect them
@001Jenna33
@001Jenna33 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a muslim in indonesia, and i respect them.
@Kitsu_no_mirai
@Kitsu_no_mirai 5 жыл бұрын
Sesama manusia
@ThatArabgirl1903
@ThatArabgirl1903 8 жыл бұрын
The fact that they smoke in the school, see prostitution, stealing and drinking as being okay, shows that they know next to nothing about Islam. our religion does not accept transgender, although that does not mean that people should treat them like crap, they should be talked to and if they wish to live that way then so be it that's up to them, but they shouldn't be teaching others that its okay.
@TreeHugger189
@TreeHugger189 8 жыл бұрын
+ThatArabgirl I see it in another light. I don't think it's right for you to decide whether or not they "understand" Islam. Your definition of Islam will be very different than the person next to you. Sure there are certainly things that the religion does not condone of, such as those you have mentioned above. However, most Indonesian men smoke, in and out of public buildings. Do 'they' understand Islam? How about those who were born with a female genitalia, but are unable to financially provide for themselves? And are then forced into the night life? Are they "good" muslims? Like everything else, it's not black or white. PLUS, I don't think they're trying to teach others that those^ actions are "okay". I think they're trying to spread a more accepting tone to not only other warias, but also to other people in general. A safe space of warias, for warias.
@pieternel101
@pieternel101 8 жыл бұрын
+Sun's Shadow like your point Sun's Shadow.
@benengland2952
@benengland2952 8 жыл бұрын
+ThatArabgirl Your religion does accept them that's why they are still here.
@norrashidahsuhaimi6851
@norrashidahsuhaimi6851 8 жыл бұрын
+ThatArabgirl Good points...
@benengland2952
@benengland2952 8 жыл бұрын
Islam is complete nonsense no one knows what islam is thats why their all fighting.. it will be ban world wide soon though.
@TheAwesomeOnes98
@TheAwesomeOnes98 10 жыл бұрын
I'm a Muslim and I find it stupid when the society "neglects" the transsexual instead of guiding them to the right path. I live in Malaysia and I have a few friends which are bisexual but their love for God is never enough. They're being left alone without people giving love and attention as much as people care about the non bisexuals. As a human, we would never run from making mistakes and sins. So why do we need to bother about them? They're all still humans. They have the rights to live. Society is stupid for neglecting them.
@ihatemylife1056
@ihatemylife1056 4 жыл бұрын
This is so wholesome and eye opening, I'm Indonesian, and Yogyakarta is my mom's hometown, and she told me about this 'pesantren' it intrigued me, but since I'm still small back then when she told me, I never look it up or do some research about it. So glad that VICE had this! Now I know how is it like to be a waria and a devoted muslim in this country.
@thelightwayf4rer
@thelightwayf4rer Жыл бұрын
im touched by the fact that maryani said, "im aware that when i have a boyfriend he's not gg to be w me forever because im a trans." like damn that struck a chord in me bcos ive met many indons and theyre always known to be extremely selfless but maryani is just something else man...
@ra777al1
@ra777al1 8 жыл бұрын
I liked Maryani, she's always up for something :-) and her daughter is so adorable. May Allah guides us all to the straight path, Amen.
@cohzahari3591
@cohzahari3591 8 жыл бұрын
amen... may Allah guides us all...
@julietlindsey5288
@julietlindsey5288 8 жыл бұрын
+Fathima Nasra you can't help being transgender so how can that be haram when God made you that way
@ameencampano3674
@ameencampano3674 8 жыл бұрын
+Juliet Lindsey you can be, Homosexuality is just desire and temptation to man or woman like desiring an ice cream but you may desire a while a chocolate.
@Rach30sectomars
@Rach30sectomars 8 жыл бұрын
+Ameen Campano That grammar though..Good job
@ameencampano3674
@ameencampano3674 8 жыл бұрын
Sorry, no time to check my statements and replies. But by the way: Homosexuality is a DESIRE or shortly TEMPTATION upon a person/people with the same gender as the first person. It is like desiring an ice cream but then as time pass you will crave for another meal/ food/ dessert.
@boisteranto9275
@boisteranto9275 7 жыл бұрын
It's not the religion that doesn't accept them, it's our bigoted culture that does.
@saraxoxo3936
@saraxoxo3936 6 жыл бұрын
arwa deyab totally agree, nowhere in the quran says transexuals or transgenders are haraam it says about men and women imitating the opossite gender this is haraam
@emmadali3479
@emmadali3479 6 жыл бұрын
You guys need to read Quran again, although I have no problem with them but what you guys saying is totally wrong
@saraxoxo3936
@saraxoxo3936 6 жыл бұрын
Emmad Ali agree.
@sumi4684
@sumi4684 6 жыл бұрын
you guys are wrong in Islam it says you cannot imitate the opposite gender, you just said it yourself "men and women imitating the opposite gender is haram" isn't that exactly what these people are doing? because biologically they aren't women so they ARE imitating them. but hear me out. In Islam when someone is gay/trans ect... as Muslims we can only advise them, we cannot be aggressive or harm them we can only tell them its wrong, if they do not listen then its up to Allah and not us as humans to judge. We do what we can and if nothing works then as they said "humans aren't gods" so we should keep our mouths shut and let Allah do the judging. I'm a Muslim and MY personal advice is whenever I see someone who is gay/trans ect.. all I do is just leave them to it, in the end its their life we are all being judged separately, not together.
@saraxoxo3936
@saraxoxo3936 6 жыл бұрын
xxMoonLightxx you really need to do your research because you clesarly dont know what you are talking about
@AetiaEditorial
@AetiaEditorial Жыл бұрын
RIP Ma Shinta Ratri (1963-2023)
@ChodeMaster
@ChodeMaster Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂🎉🎉
@karelingabon
@karelingabon 9 ай бұрын
@@ChodeMaster I agree with you if you are immortal like a flatworm.
@raniaputriluthfizain7402
@raniaputriluthfizain7402 6 жыл бұрын
this is crazyy awesome,, never see documentary like this before!!!! i'm from indonesia, and i live in yogyakarta for 3 years hhahaa
@rossellinirossicalrossc3507
@rossellinirossicalrossc3507 10 жыл бұрын
why do they inject that stuff into their faces!? Some of them looked terrifying...I'm not surprised the little boy cried. Respect to them though, it's brave for them to be themselves in such an intolerant place
@TriumphantToufik
@TriumphantToufik 10 жыл бұрын
***** It really isn't. Algeria, Morocco, Turkey, Jordan, the list goes on. ART. 29 of the Algerian constitution states "All citizens are equal before the law. No discrimination shall prevail because of birth, race, sex, opinion or any other personal or social condition or circumstance." And ART. 36 states that "Freedom of creed and opinion is inviolable." Learn about something before you make wild accusations.
@Lauri648
@Lauri648 10 жыл бұрын
TriumphantToufik "learn something before you make wild accusations"? I suggest you look up the meaning of "wild accusations" before you go around acting so superior. They didnt make any accusations nor were they wild. I dont get why people feel the need to be such dicks just because someone might be misinformed or not know something. Be a teacher - not an asshole.
@TriumphantToufik
@TriumphantToufik 10 жыл бұрын
Lauri648 And I just liked your other comment on this video. Okay I admit that "wild accusations" was a bit over the top and I was acting dickey, but isn't it a bit hypocritical of you to call me an asshole after telling me not to insult people?
@jancuker_glamorreally8543
@jancuker_glamorreally8543 6 жыл бұрын
Rossellini Rossical Ross C what intolerant if like what you accused they dead long time ago
@Stellaacee
@Stellaacee 10 жыл бұрын
This is such a mind-opening documentary. I was always aware of warias across the country but I would never think twice about them, especially about their trials and tribulations. As an Indonesian, and a filmmaker, I thank you for this film.
@TAHMBEG
@TAHMBEG 6 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Even if transvestites are looked down upon in Islam, who are we as flawed humans (muslim and non-muslim) to tell them what's wrong or right. How can we deny them their freedom and a relationship with God when it is only God who can and will judge us in the afterlife. The best we can do on Earth is create a space of peace and acceptance.
@j-stilt9746
@j-stilt9746 5 жыл бұрын
Tahmina Bee sexy
@shelbyb9965
@shelbyb9965 3 жыл бұрын
@@j-stilt9746 Stop creepin' up the comments. It never works out in your favor and it only serves to make you look like a jackass.
@joannajanowicz3005
@joannajanowicz3005 6 жыл бұрын
Sending love from London! Stay safe
@lalakuma9
@lalakuma9 8 жыл бұрын
"a lot of dangdut and a lot of Celine Dion"
@2dfeelsgood777
@2dfeelsgood777 8 жыл бұрын
Now these people right here, the Waria's. They have real spirit! I hope they win the fight to be accepted.
@user-ch9sb9gj1e
@user-ch9sb9gj1e 6 жыл бұрын
what fight they need to stop being contradicting
@journeebean
@journeebean 3 жыл бұрын
I Hey 👋🏽 is 👋🏽 was you a to get together to
@luanam5678
@luanam5678 5 жыл бұрын
That's a AMAZING documentary, so glad that you could explain how is the life of the Warias and I am so proud of them.
@iph3545
@iph3545 5 жыл бұрын
There is a story in Islam that a prostitute once saw a dying dog due to thirst and she gave the dog water and because of that she went to heaven. This is the real Islam, filled with mercy and this should be the Islam that we spread. As a muslim, i am proud of what maryani has done in providing that school for transpeople. I hope more people in the world just spread love and not hate and understanding instead of prejudice. May Allah forgive her and i pray that she is in a better place.
@Dr3aash
@Dr3aash 10 жыл бұрын
Astaghfirullah wa atubu ileih they have totally wrong idea about islam and theyre doing everytthing thats prohibited in islam. It's all clear in quran and I guess they are not teaching those parts in that islamic school. I think all they are teaching is "Allah huwal Ghfaar" so do whatever you want and Allah will forgive you because he forgives all. USE YOUR LOGIC!!!!!!!!!
@SolemnlyJLS
@SolemnlyJLS 10 жыл бұрын
Religions are not logic.
@Dr3aash
@Dr3aash 10 жыл бұрын
Thinking needs logic. And in order to reason with yourself you need be thinking.
@JahangirKhan-zt2nv
@JahangirKhan-zt2nv 9 жыл бұрын
Reddit_Atheist lol... go fuck ur self... hacker.. ohhhh u scared me....
@kazuozuozuo
@kazuozuozuo 9 жыл бұрын
i agree, we should learn not just how to pray etc, right now we are learning God's existence and how to prove it, why aren't there more than 1 God etc.
@SevenCutiesAngels
@SevenCutiesAngels 9 жыл бұрын
GOD MADE YOU THERE IS NO MISTAKE
@ameliamartin5197
@ameliamartin5197 9 жыл бұрын
It seems like they are completely normal and spiritual people aside from wanting to dress or become the opposite gender. I don't know why people have to kick up such a fuss about something that makes another person happy.
@Thecatnipproject
@Thecatnipproject 6 жыл бұрын
ancient laws written by ingornat angry barbarians thats what. its tragic though
@stacirivera799
@stacirivera799 6 жыл бұрын
Amelia Martin Um we actually are. If only society and yourself knew how stupid you were for saying shit like what you just said you would smack yourself. We don't CHOOSE to be another Gender. Psychology and Medical Journals have already done research to disprove that. The same way intersex individuals are born in the wrong body the same can occur for a trans person. I am a transgender woman and a trans advocate if anyone wants to follow me on IG my IG is: Princess_Delicious26
@cloudqueen4089
@cloudqueen4089 4 жыл бұрын
13:08-13:09 the lady in the back’s expression changed sooooo quick 😂
@nataliepedigo2480
@nataliepedigo2480 6 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite KZfaq videos, for obvious reasons. Well done
@esme335
@esme335 8 жыл бұрын
I find it annoying when people only accept the transsexual people who 'pass' as pretty woman
@Thecatnipproject
@Thecatnipproject 6 жыл бұрын
same here
@mikasaackerman6220
@mikasaackerman6220 7 жыл бұрын
"And there will come a time that they will try to prove that anything that is not halal, halal"
@naurajasmine1039
@naurajasmine1039 5 жыл бұрын
Mikasa Ackerman :'( yes very true
@wilting_hyacinth13
@wilting_hyacinth13 5 жыл бұрын
Mikasa Ackerman it’s sad :(
@tokyoghoul1434
@tokyoghoul1434 5 жыл бұрын
Truly heartbreaking
@DefinitelyNotAdolfHitler
@DefinitelyNotAdolfHitler 5 жыл бұрын
by that time legit muslims already 6ft under and the world is govern by jake paul
@nurulsulistyarini2232
@nurulsulistyarini2232 5 жыл бұрын
Mikasa Ackerman true
@Noellexafael
@Noellexafael 6 жыл бұрын
This was beautiful, fantastic job.
@gladly9728
@gladly9728 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao they acted like they were paid for their performance in Indonesia we pay street performers to leave and stop bothering customers
@shelbyb9965
@shelbyb9965 3 жыл бұрын
Hey it's still a living.
@Laoriginal718
@Laoriginal718 9 жыл бұрын
This is ridiculous. God is not pleased with this at all. This is the devils work. Smh. Sick and sad.
@drisodreamyy9231
@drisodreamyy9231 9 жыл бұрын
Amen 🙌🙌
@madarauchiha9161
@madarauchiha9161 9 жыл бұрын
Did you talk to him or did you read that in a book some guy who didn't know the earth was round wrote while in the desert?
@tyedyegirlsofficial
@tyedyegirlsofficial 9 жыл бұрын
Umm no
@arthurmorgan2861
@arthurmorgan2861 9 жыл бұрын
lord Shrek welcomes all, Shrek is love, Shrek is life
@kreed1004
@kreed1004 9 жыл бұрын
God pleased. He just told me so.
@indahbersama35
@indahbersama35 10 жыл бұрын
How can she say: Allah still bless them ? prostitution, stealing for a living ? that's is a big sin in Islam ! Haram. if they knows Islam, they would not do that, may Allah forgive them ..
@msvania
@msvania 6 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the title of the music played at 20:20?
@ErickElMagnifico
@ErickElMagnifico 4 жыл бұрын
The band is called Dara Puspita and the song is called "Pip Pip Yeah" from their album A GO GO 1967. Ive been listening to them ever since this documentary came out. They're great!
@guyonangolekduit6501
@guyonangolekduit6501 6 жыл бұрын
I met some of them in this Video, they are really nice persons.
@sssl9528
@sssl9528 10 жыл бұрын
What is wrong with those who say this is wrong? Well if you are such a good Muslim then let God judge, who are you to judge? I rather see more transsexual Muslims like him/her than seeing closed minded radical Muslims who makes life on earth hell for others because of their ignorance and judgments. Btw I am a Muslim too who follows the pillars of Islam strictly.
@proQuran
@proQuran 10 жыл бұрын
Everyone has the right to worship God, but to twist religion to accommodate one's perverse desires that are the antithesis of what the given religion preaches, is sacrilege. Why make excuses to lead a haram way of life and pretend it is halal? This is the zenith if innovation, & heretic by all means.
@asrihashim90
@asrihashim90 10 жыл бұрын
errr before your decided to be an ignorant narrow judgemental bigot, what about you study more into ur own religion..from what I have read, being transgender or transexual IS NOT HARAM in Islam u idiot, it is natural and some people are born tht way.. and I quote "According to the scholar and hadith collector An-Nawawi: A mukhannath is the one ("male") who carries in his movements, in his appearance and in his language the characteristics of a woman. There are two types; the first is the one in whom these characteristics are innate, he did not put them on by himself, and therein is no guilt, no blame and no shame, as long as he does not perform any (illicit) act or exploit it for money (prostitution etc.). The second type acts like a woman out of immoral purposes and he is the sinner and blameworthy.[3] Furthermore there is the observation of Ibn Abd Al-Barr who was a contemporary of An-Nawawi: The mukhannath is not only the one who is known to be promiscuous. The mukhannath is (also?) the one who looks so much like a woman physically that he resembles women in his softness, speech, appearance, accent and thinking. If he is like this, he would have no desire for women and he would not notice anything about them. This is one of those who have no interest in women who were permitted to enter upon women"..... Next time you might want to read more, in stead of being an asshole to ur fellow muslims..
@proQuran
@proQuran 10 жыл бұрын
asri hashim Hey genius, you may be getting transgender & hermaphrodite confused. Hermaphrodite/Intersex individuals are born with ambigous genitals of both sexes. Sigh, obviously it is not their fault. Transgender is not the same thing & is most definitely haram. Tone your overzealousness down a notch & try opening a Quran or reading from Sahih Hadith. Your da'if Hadith prove nothing other than that you are trying to defend a lifestyle against the Sunnah of the Rasullulah (P.B.U.H.). Good luck with that.
@yourfavoritedrawer7680
@yourfavoritedrawer7680 10 жыл бұрын
asri hashim excuse me fellow brother? But actually it is strongly forbiden to be a man and be with a man this is literally in a hadith no matter what you have allah does not make mistakes by giving a male body a female soul so this is also a concistency in your argument and also did you cope and paste some of your argument cus im getting the idea you did but no hate ^^
@verzinmaar1648
@verzinmaar1648 9 жыл бұрын
+proqurn RESPECT
@gem2148
@gem2148 6 жыл бұрын
prqurn TOTALLY AGREE
@mirandawidyawati4107
@mirandawidyawati4107 5 жыл бұрын
Aku suka sama ustadnya, dia menerima waria2 tsb dan menilai mendidik mereka adalah panggilannya. Walaupun waria adalah hal yang dibenci oleh Tuhan tapi ustad tersebut melayani agar para waria tersebut bisa belajar agama dan lebih mendekatkan diri dengan Tuhan sang sumber damai sejahtera. Saya salut karena masih ada yang peduli dengan mereka terlebih lagi untuk mendidik, bukan menghujat. Teringat bahwa ustad tersebut memiliki kesamaan teladan yang dimiliki oleh Yesus, Markus 2:17 (TB) Yesus mendengarnya dan berkata kepada mereka: "Bukan orang sehat yang memerlukan tabib, tetapi orang sakit; Aku datang bukan untuk memanggil orang benar, melainkan orang berdosa."
@bikaludznabl
@bikaludznabl 6 жыл бұрын
one of the most beautiful documentaries that I've ever seen, thx u so muchh
@Tokis86
@Tokis86 8 жыл бұрын
I feel terribly sorry for all the millions of innocent people who suffer or are persecuted in the name of religion.
@dionnedunsmore9996
@dionnedunsmore9996 3 жыл бұрын
I do too! In fact thats the main reason i refuse to be called christian or anything other than wiccan. I think that part of religion is a buncha bullshit! Its evil calling itself religious 😠💔☹️i do NOT like that side of religion at all. Not cool
@barbaralourencoo
@barbaralourencoo 7 жыл бұрын
A really difficult life. May God protect these human beings..
@slowedvibes8033
@slowedvibes8033 3 жыл бұрын
God isn’t real
@ilovechrist9780
@ilovechrist9780 3 жыл бұрын
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. -John 3:16 KJV translation ❤️
@ilovechrist9780
@ilovechrist9780 3 жыл бұрын
@@slowedvibes8033 Yes God does exist ❤️ God bless you and your family ❤️
@slowedvibes8033
@slowedvibes8033 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilovechrist9780 can you give me the solid evidence of your “god” existence? Don’t tell me read the Bible because that’s just a book and nothing else. Give me the evidence you have to prove a “god” exists
@slowedvibes8033
@slowedvibes8033 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilovechrist9780 “If you want to find out if someone is a true bookworm or not, give them a thousand page novel and see what happens” E.A. Bucchianeri See, I can quote a book too. No difference at all
@khofifahshobah6993
@khofifahshobah6993 5 жыл бұрын
I just wanna say, this is so interisting and i so proud for them, and i think they are so happy and i like it, for other people don't judge,, righ,,piece, thx
@ShahrilSaman
@ShahrilSaman 4 жыл бұрын
Whats the song Maryani sang to at the end?? Please share!!
@sirknox5410
@sirknox5410 10 жыл бұрын
*It's entertaining to read some comments, "It's against Islam" or "It's against every word in the Quran" ... I'm going to throw this news flash out, welcome to the 21st centenary. If you want respect at the end of the day, respect everyone for who they are. Straight, bisexual, homosexual. Transgender. You are all human beings.*
@trippupamyupamyu7847
@trippupamyupamyu7847 9 жыл бұрын
These people deserve to be happy no matter what. They're not doing harm to anyone. People need to stop being so judgmental. These women are beautiful and bring tears to my eyes! They're so strong! They do what the can to get by and they never lose faith in what they believe. Their outlook on life is beautiful and they're so kind! Amazing. A lot of people could learn from them.
@mistermystery1999
@mistermystery1999 5 жыл бұрын
That's gonna be a yikes from me dawg
@abangnonejerman2218
@abangnonejerman2218 6 жыл бұрын
in Indonesia there are five religions, various kinds of tribes, cultures and languages ​​but they respect each other and appreciate it so that they live peacefully share love From jakarta
@ronzac55
@ronzac55 9 жыл бұрын
I live in a predominantly Christian province and happen to live in the place near the waria's place of business. They always stand on the road after 11 to wait for their customers to pick them up with cars. They generally don't do any harm to the local residences but i think we shouldn't mock them because they can turn into a criminal and kill you, they're very sensitive. Anyway, i think Indonesia's law doesn't criminalise the act of being a waria, though street prostitution is illegal. So, you could simply see them like anywhere, some of them dress as women and the other dress as men. I perceive waria as brave people because they're brave enough to be who they want to be. You can find waria or gay celebrities performing on TV. Indonesia is somewhat strange. It's strict in terms of norms and culture but on the other hand it's also an open society where tolerance and freedom of expression are appreciated.
@ronzac55
@ronzac55 9 жыл бұрын
Anyway, someone knows the song being played at 20:17?
@adelinealdercy1195
@adelinealdercy1195 9 жыл бұрын
They're very sensitive is a very stereotypical word to describe transgender.
@TheAoalec14
@TheAoalec14 6 жыл бұрын
Imanuel L Lppkm
@rrestoeboemi
@rrestoeboemi 6 жыл бұрын
"appreciate", yeah, as a joke, less human. and then people either laugh at them or secretly talk about how disgusting they are in social media. only until recently gay characters are not used as a joke punchline in movies. anything that shows gay / trans people as remotely positive is shut down as "propaganda". sayangnya yang selama ini saya liat begitu
@N8TEonGoe
@N8TEonGoe 6 жыл бұрын
Imanuel Aaron Mogie if u are so Christian do u not know "he who stand with the world is a enemy of god" u are a false christan protecting these abonation of a people u sholdnt hold back on the truth no matter if it hurts people feelings
@xeno126
@xeno126 8 жыл бұрын
In some other Muslim countries they would get beaten or even killed. I think they are lucky being born in Indonesia regarding that. BTW these people have made more conscious decisions in their lives and are more aware of their lives than most people I know.
@jancuker_glamorreally8543
@jancuker_glamorreally8543 6 жыл бұрын
Xeno even if in Rome those Ladyboys will got Lynched or if in US they will get Mocked and diss
@thirdonsecondthought737
@thirdonsecondthought737 6 жыл бұрын
Off course. Since our country (Indonesia) is not a Islamic country with sharia law. Just muslim majority country
@positiveturn3304
@positiveturn3304 6 жыл бұрын
We have plenty of them in Pakistan, they are more than safe here. There are no such Islamic teachings that would put them at risk. People however, have attached superstitions to them and they mostly don't have good jobs.
@dalell3808
@dalell3808 6 жыл бұрын
Xeno my country is a Muslim country and they don't get beaten its about the conservative society not religion you need to stop making lies
@dalell3808
@dalell3808 6 жыл бұрын
Bergr B no middle East is safe noo need for lies we never killed them and if they did it's not about religion transsexuals are more accepted than gays cuz most of them are born with mixed hormones so in Islam anything you are born with and can be Scientifically proved is not wrong
@yunsanghyun
@yunsanghyun 5 жыл бұрын
This is a nice documentary, would like to see more of it.
@muhammadhadiq1018
@muhammadhadiq1018 5 жыл бұрын
Epic sih ini video. Vice emang dah
@danlandmand
@danlandmand 10 жыл бұрын
@06:54 Wait 1 sec! Is that dude in the middle taking a crap in the water while the other dude is washing he's clothes in it? LMAO
@TriumphantToufik
@TriumphantToufik 10 жыл бұрын
Looks like it, luckily the guy washing his cloths is on the other side of the direction the river is flowing but it's still inhygienic.
@TriumphantToufik
@TriumphantToufik 10 жыл бұрын
***** Vice should do a documentary about Grammar Nazis and how much of a waste of space they are.
@Lauri648
@Lauri648 10 жыл бұрын
***** Wow its rare to come across a youtube troll that also looks like one!
@TriumphantToufik
@TriumphantToufik 10 жыл бұрын
Lauri648 That was brilliant XD If only I could thumb up your comment more than once.
@TriumphantToufik
@TriumphantToufik 10 жыл бұрын
***** I'm sorry that my spelling mistake gave you a terminal illness. Many lives are lost every year due to spelling mistakes. Vice should make an awareness documentary spreading awareness of the terminal illnesses that spelling mistakes cause. I'm guessing that's why it's any of you're business. Am I right?
@2016T
@2016T 9 жыл бұрын
These comments make me pissed off. First you have to know that there's nothing in the Quran that it's haram. Hpmosexuality is haram in the Quran but not transsexualism. In irak and iran etc its legal to be trans and the state will pay for your gender resentment surgery. What the point is is that it isn't culturally accepted, but the real Islamic leaders tell that this isn't haram and transsexuals are a loud to get surgery. So before some of you Muslim's say that it's haram look at your own sins and study the Quran.
@halfnelson6115
@halfnelson6115 6 жыл бұрын
Finally a Vice vid that doesn't have have the hearing impaired caption turned on. It's annoying cuz it covers up the translation caption and I can't read what they're saying. Someone was thinking.
@MrThestormguy
@MrThestormguy 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting documentary, I have to say the reporter was first class. She didn't make this story about her, she left the space for people to tell their own story and it really shows.
@LymieLinde
@LymieLinde 8 жыл бұрын
that's a lot of culture shock to take in at once! great documentary!
@RayhandiYUsman
@RayhandiYUsman 8 жыл бұрын
Lol that not culture
@LymieLinde
@LymieLinde 8 жыл бұрын
Salamat Pagi, Mas..
@RayhandiYUsman
@RayhandiYUsman 8 жыл бұрын
+Quack Factor Good morning. indonesian ?
@LymieLinde
@LymieLinde 8 жыл бұрын
Not I, but I have relatives I love so much there. I visited for 6 weeks when I was young. I loved it so much I almost ran away to miss the plane lol
@RayhandiYUsman
@RayhandiYUsman 8 жыл бұрын
Have trouble with Islam ?
@writeousrhema
@writeousrhema 10 жыл бұрын
Perhaps little kid did see the "devil or something".
@writeousrhema
@writeousrhema 10 жыл бұрын
Was that supposed to change my comment or something?
@stackmosayless-1669
@stackmosayless-1669 10 жыл бұрын
Little kids always notice when something aint right
@DutyJames
@DutyJames 6 жыл бұрын
I love them there so sweet,I wish them all well
@abangnonejerman2218
@abangnonejerman2218 6 жыл бұрын
Duty James halo james
@SubidubidubiDu1
@SubidubidubiDu1 5 жыл бұрын
The one on the video avatar won't age well
@angieallen4829
@angieallen4829 5 жыл бұрын
Duty James Me too. People are all people They aren’t hurting anyone. They seem nice.
@scouser2010ify
@scouser2010ify 6 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail though...DAMN!
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