this man is too accurate and this video needs to be marked as spolier

Part of the main quest line is Chains of Harrow, which I think was primarily for an introduction to the Man in the Wall (though of course it was teased in War Within with the quote from the Tenno's father). We did get that interaction with it after Sacrifice, but nothing else apart from haunting my Orbitor. I'm also hoping that it's a part of the main story in New War.

I'm hopeful that the man in the wall will be the one to lead us through the truth of the Ten-0, Maybe he will finally tell us what deal we made and what the consequences of it are.

Yo, we haven't heard from you for 6 months now. Yes we would like to see your content again but for now just say hey, so we know your alive. Miss ya buddy, I hope your well out there!

I hope DsIEGE comes back and is doing well. I always come back to this channel to check if there is a new video. Other channels just don't do it like this one.

With my best friend of fifteen years on his death bed, I've found my enthusiasm for the upcoming New War remarkably dampened. Even so, it's nice to see you speculating and observing; I need more happiness and enthusiasm in my life nowadays, this decade is off to really awful start so far. It's especially nice to see that bit about the Lotus symbol on Natah when it wasn't there before, not a lot of people noticed that and many more didn't believeme when I pointed it out. Also, it absolutely _cannot be_ the Tenno's actual mom comforting them through transference issues; by the time transference was a thing, all of the Tenno parents were long dead.

Hey Dsiege really want to see a new lore video now that the new war is out some very interesting things have happened from the zariman to the giant statue, I'm sure you are working on something. Awesome videos as always

waiting for your latest video after the new war quest man... i keep checking in almost 3 times a day.... :D

I love your musings. It is my go to when I go for walks. New War has me hyped not just for the gameplay, but for how the lore progresses.

Dude, if haven't gone insane yet with the New War, I wish you a lot of health, this quest got you content for the entire Year and the combination of Eternalism, Plato's Cave and the Schrodinger paradox can make literally everything possible, so don't get yourself in the position of trying to eliminate every contradiction using Hume's Fork, there's a lot of laws of this universe we have no idea how they work and a lot of dimensions that might be places or even another plane of existence akin to how 2D creatures might be able to see 3D projections, but can't comprehend it as 3D, there's no way to pull out a Laplace Demon out of this small fragments of information that leave more gaps than actually explain something. I'm eager to see what thing you'll come up with, but in the end, not even the devs might be able to know how the pieces fit.

I hope one day this fantastic KZfaqr will make his return cuz his theories and recollections of lore is really fascinating and intriguing. I hope all is well

I just hope we get a chance to save the lotus. I can't get myself to kill her after she saved us. The orokin deserved their demise and the sentients had the right to revolt. But she got caught in between everything and I really want to have the chance to save her. 2 Days to go. Can't wait

What happened man, where did you go? Yeah, The New War was underwhelming and Angels was very lacking in meaty story, but I and many others would certainly still like to hear your take and summation. That, and at this point people are worried you actually died.

This is why I love this game so much we've all been training in the mountains for 3 hard years for the sentients to arrive. We've made mince meat on every bit of story, codex entries and speculations in how this arc of warfame will end. Now is the waiting game in 3 days we'll see if all that we did will come to fruition or whether we're completely wrong in our understanding

Can't wait either brother,good stories in the entertainment Industry are getting rare each day and Warframe is like one of the last original stories to look forward to

bro you had me rolling man. "i believe the woman is absolutely margulis and my proof lies within the TINY FRECKLE ABOVE THE LEFT EYE BROW." never change man love ur content. my personal theory is that the sentients are humans that the orokin combined with tech and sent to space who gained their "sentience" once again and that natha is literally margulis post execution. i know there are gaping holes in this theory but i like it.

I'm more interested in the Stalker joining us in the new war (says on the main NW page). He hasnt really done anything since the second dream aside from harassing Alad, glad to see DE doing something with him again but what could we see: redemtion arc? Backstory? A new future ally? Either way i'm hyped

Really starting to think that the Lotus is an amalgamation of Natah with Margulis' actual soul implanted into her (or just replicated Oro). Why fake a love for her children when you can implant genuine love? Then, with two added benefits: Ballas (I think it really is him playing 5D chess) gets back his love; and he gets a pawn he can use to kill the Tenno after they're used to wipe out the Orokin he hates. Based on the Grineer Queens' need for continuity, it's highly likely that Ballas went into the dream at the same time the Tenno did and was awoken when the Lotus pulled the Tenno out. My guess is, after the Orokin were slaughtered, he wanted to wait out both the collapse of the empire and wait for the day the remaining sentients returned from Tau. Then, he can finally pit the Tenno and Sentients against each other, tie up loose ends, properly revive Margulis (without the burden of the Tenno he partially blames for her death) and likely meet up with the surviving Orokin he spared which then brings us into the Duviri Paradox (if he's successful. If he loses can still use them for reinforcements I guess, or they come after us after we kill Ballas. They'll be the new main antagonists in the story). The surviving Orokin stuffed into a pocket outside of time. Lol idk. Falling apart at this point. Though it would makes sense that the actual point of the Zariman Ten-0 was to test using the void for stopping time or travelling absurd distances in short amounts of time(Void Jump Accident). The biggest hurdle they had for getting to Tau was the length of the trip and the danger it entails. If it were me, my first plan would be to attempt making a worm-hole or creating temporal anomalies to prevent myself from aging and dying on the long trip - not sending OP robots to build a solar rail (especially after everything else they made tried to kill them.) The Ten-0 failed, but did they not make another attempt? Sure, many died and they got these super-powered children but, I can not imagine the Orokin caring at all. It doesn't sound like the Tenno aged despite being missing in the void for years, so to the Orokin, the Void Jump Worked. A perfect example of travelling through space without aging. All they'd need to do now is steal some children bodies (which they do anyways) since adults go insane, fine tune the void jump engines and boom. Hide in a pocket dimension and call yourself the Duviri. More than Orokin, Anyways.. sorry for the long paragraphs.

Guys, we have to share his videos more. This is gold!

Hope you're ok DsIEGE, we miss ya

You are the Vaati Vidya for Warframe Lore, always a highlight seeing a new upload from you!

@TheDsIEGE #TheDsIEGE Thank you for pointing out the eye-color change. I've also noticed that same. With particular significance, the Tenno's eyes turning red whenever they're being controlled or possessed by the "Man in the Wall." I can't really say anything about Balla's eyes except for that they glow whenever he is controlling a Warframe or speaking telepathically to someone. However, I wanted to point something else out to you regarding color. Specifically with the sentients. I may be the only one here who thinks this or who has noticed it, but the Sentient race displays a very specific energy/aura color depending on which leaders faction they are a part of. Upon reviewing old in-game cinematics and trailers, I noticed four colors that were associated with a specific leader: Red = Hunhow ("Father," Destroyer of Worlds), Yellow = Erra ("Brother," Warlord), Blue = Natah ("Sister," The Spark).

no more videos? this was the best lore content on warframe damn..

Waiting on your ‘New War’ lore dive, homie!

Looking forward to your interpretation of narrative events from The New War. :D There's a LOT to unpack.

Recently picked Warframe back up and came across this channel not long after, I love the content, and I hope you're doing better without posting but I sure hope there's new content when you feel good about posting again

the fact you were pretty much right on most things in the devil in the details is amazing... good shit

So glad to see someone finally cover this. I mentioned it on one of your videos with scenes from the 30-minute gameplay trailer. The second Erra said "Don't be afraid" and the child's eyes changed, I knew there was so much more going on. The implications are huge.

Hey, seriously.. does anyone know if the guy is still alive?

Thx for the great content bro.

I'm really hoping they explain just what the heck is up with Natah right now, cause there are some really obvious hints that we're missing crucial information in that aspect. The eye thing is definitely interesting. Seems pretty obvious that the glowing eyes on the Tenno in the new trailer is just her using her power, but the red eyes in the Erra cutscene are certainly confusing. They aren't the same as the golden and black eyes of Wally though, so I wonder if they mean something completely different. And of course there's the fact that was really have no logical explanation for why the Sentients are attacking us. Do they just want to destroy all humans because they're bad? That seems way too thoughtless for Warframe.

I always love your breakdowns. The wheels are turning :)

Am just amazed how you concluded how the quest would be from analysis. Thunbs up.

I can't wait for the quest, your theories are always the most fun to watch, whether they come out to be true or not amazing content as always!

I only just found your channel a few weeks ago, but damn you're easily in my top 3 WF KZfaqrs 💚💚

Where are you man? :(

Idk why you dont have more subs but i love all your vids thank you for the content dude

We need to promote your channel. Warframe's lore is incredible. Love your content.

Well we still havent seen any blue kuva action. The one which lets someone posses something for certain ammount of time. As the granmother telling her story in naberus decord.

Dang you was almost spot on with your theories and I liked the ending of the quest.

Heres my thoughts: 1. Eyes are called a window to the souls sometimes so when eyes change... you get what im saying, right? I cant put it into words. Its maybe just a general rule of warframe not that its some specific entity. 2. I think its the Lotus in the trailer as Margulis due to Tenno's flashback seems to be in chronological order. 3. It seems Ballas and Erra are in kahoots one way or the other but Erra for some reason fake 4. Its really probable its the same tenno in both scenematic Also I think Ballas is antagonistic towards Natah/Lotus. As well as Erra to some degree. Its entirely probable that youre theory abt Lotus switching sides as like a double agent is likely. Love your videos as always! What Im looking forward to from like not obvious things are: what happenes to Unum after the quest? Can we perhaps fix her or is she dead for good? Can we get a Quills mission/event to reconstruct the Unum? What happens to Quills when Unum is disconnected from them? What if we apply Temple kuva from Unum to Natah to heal her if she is on our side after New War? I talked abt it in comments of your prev vid but can we get actual children of Natah/Lotus the Sentient? As like another syndicat or perhaps as campenions? What would happen between the factions after New War is over and after they worked with the Tenno to auch an extent? Will we have more people like our protagonists from 30 minute demo who we can recruit? Where the HELL is Hunhow? Did we actually kill him in Octavias anthem? He is like a major figure and a self proclaimed destroyer of worlds yet he is nowhere to be found only Erra and Ballas and Natah from independant Sentient characters. Maybe Mother but she doesnt show up also, Erra said shes gone. We saw the "Sentient Mothership" which could be Mother or her corpse or smthn but could be just a big Sentient. Also a bit unrelated but why anytime the void and eyes are paired together in a sentence its always one eye. Mother from Deimos says something about only one of our eyes being in the void, "Queen of sentients with her eye in the void" Erra said, the lidless eye - the man in the wall. What does that mean? Ok thanks for reading hope its not too much!

Ok so I have been thinking, why are they releasing Harrow prime with this update? Initially my thoughts were "oh it's because people like me were begging for the prime variant" then I was like what if this might have something to do with the man in the wall being teased or revealed in this story update.....omg the hype is killing me

Have you seen the litany of the Dax yet? DE basically confirms you were right about the character alignment being logic, emotion, and balance

Definitely looking forward to all the story and lore that'll come from the New War! It's been a long wait, but better late than never.

Hope my boy has his review of the new war recorded. Can't wait to watch bro!

One huge thing I swear no one has ever brought up is about a being or force that lives in the void that gave the tenno their powers ala man in the wall he is quite powerful and mysterious and I do really hope he does have a play in the new war! He or it is known as the man in the wall or at least I think the two are the same or maybe not but I forget what quest it was that I learned that in and I was like...no one talks about this entity that basically gave the tenno their powers

The girl in the the awakening quest is an ostron girl little duck was paid to protect from the comics. It takes place before she wakes up the Tenno

I already assumed the woman was natah when she took the form of margulis, because right after that is when she is snapped back to reality with the lotus in front of her.

8:46 shows children in transference suits floating in the classroom. Are these just the uniforms (with fully enclosing hoods) that children in class on military ships wear? The other kids don't seem particularly surprised that their classmates are just hanging around levitating while they salute whomever or whatever is shown on the large display... and if you watch closely from 8:35, each of those floating children teleport in one after the next, and the other kids don't even flinch. Maybe they're well trained? Just something they overlooked while animating it? There's a lot of detail in that room. If they are well trained and their stoic stances aren't just animating efficiency, it begs the question as to why they aren't surprised. Those uniforms seem pretty militaristic. It's difficult to see clearly, but they seem to have tags where modern military personnel would have name tags and a pattern or maybe badges on their shoulders and they all have close-shaven heads. The room is quite clearly intended as a classroom. On the outside of the room, where pink Mesa is walking, the walls are bright metallic pink with a dark stain on the floor accompanied by root-looking things crossing the hallway. The story says that kids weren't ever supposed to be on the Zaramin, and likely not on any military ships but hints that someone did intend to have kids on that ship - *with their parents*. Even for military personnel, it would be extremely odd to be told that they'd be taking their children with them, let-alone as a surprise, yet it seems like it's all well prepared.

Wow good job man

4:50 Unfinished, low-poly Margulis is so cursed.

Now i'm even more hyped, can't wait !

what became of TheDsIEGE ???

Is Dsiege done with KZfaq?

Maybe the Void is an analogy for Causality given sentience, maybe while it isnt directly protective, it does want to prevent unneeded death, and the tenno, children trained for war, are its best choice to prevent all out destruction of innocent life, it doesn't want to learn kindness, but fate is never really planned

What if the man in the wall is some sort of "god" that is used as a source of manipulation meaning he's behind all or used like power.

What if the red eyes aren't symbolizing the man in the wall, but a higher power? Like a man BEHIND the wall... The man IN the wall could just be a messenger

Dude is smart, he predicted that we're getting adult tenno/future tenno, the drifter.

My thoughts. It's called "the NEW war". Not a second war. New would mean it's different then the first. Like a civil war. So.in the new trailer You know how the lotus looks more lotus. Helmet, symbol etc. Glowing WHITE eye. And the those Sent eye behind her are white eyed as well. The look on the lotus face to is not one of "we got you" or " your stupid if you try" but forgiven, regret and a plead to stop. So what if... The Sent will have a Civil war with in. Lotus vs Era. The question now is not will I kill space mom. It's will I join her against a mutual enemy.

Yes! Mostly of everything you've said was on point. Great job.

I know you have probably moved past making youtube videos now seeing as this is is from 10months ago... but maybe consider doing a longer video at some point doing some thoughts on the new narrative beats in warframe? Would be cool to see your interpretations even if it is just for one more video.

He’s back! Also, I think the Man in the Wall will make an appearance because of what Reb said on a stream about the Chains of Harrow having narrative importance to the New War.

Ballas will have a very interesting story since it seems like he hates us because he blames us for the death of his beloved

I think the Tenno protagonist in these clips is possibly a young nightwave

My hope is that the New War kinda wraps up the story of the Sentient, the Orokin, and the Tenno's conflict, but that it ends with something major from the Man in the Wall that leads us into Duviri Paradox (assuming we still get that at some point). I think the New War will be the end of the "Sentient" arc of Warframe's story, but may lead us into the "Void/Man in the Wall" arc, or soemthing like that, focusing less on the war with the sentients and may shift to some sort of conflict with the Void itself.

Yeah the Awakening Tenno girl confused me because I thought the Tenno were asleep at that point

Awesome video like always but I do hope that if you bring umbra to the quest there Like a special dialogue who know only 2 more day for TNW

Can. Not. Wait. Until you make the next video now that TNW is released.

I love your musing but I still stand by the idea that the Sentients have splintered into factions and in the trailer we see the faction lead by Natah/Lotus. When the female tenno charges her void beam Lotus has a look of confusion on her face. Also they are the same female in both the new trailer and the new war trailer, what part of her timeline no idea.

Damn man! Where are you? Hope your ok.

Just rewatched this video. OMG the 7:40 mark onwards observations!

I hope we can open that chamber in rail jack but no bro you’re onto something

Luke : You couldn't bring yourself to kill me before and I don't believe you'll destroy me now. Darth Vader : You underestimate the power of the Dark Side. If you will not fight, then you will meet your destiny.

I also saw natah talking to me in extermenate missions in lua every time i do that mission she appears randomly

hey Siege I was wondering the older gerneer queen be an orokin? when she said "bring me my yuvan" or " i deserve new skin"? best regards Loriwen

Reminds me of an idiom; Eyes are the Windows to the Soul.

I think the text on loading screens is when the tenno were put into the second dream. It's the systems being cycled and the "war platform" referring to the warframe being on standby. The last words is marguilis/lotus knowing the children are being sent to sleep while the moon is being sent into the void for safe keeping.

The old static message that hinted at the second dream. I wonder if there is more to the "Margulis implantation" itself. I mostly assumed it as an implant related to transference, but now i'm honestly starting to wonder as how much of the Tenno's bond to Margulis was real and consider perhaps that the idea of Margulis as important on a personal level was an implanted memory as part of the therapy in order to mask problematic elements or maybe even a certain individual within the wall... Would make an interesting twist for the act that takes place in the Zariman. wouldn't you say?

Wow I mean wow man You are really a live embodiment of overthinking and you do really expect a lot from the flawed DE Kudos for keeping it up

Just one more day till we learn everything. (I'm not counting launch day lol)

If we're lucky we might see ral from the harrow quest

the orokin language message is about transference, it's an old easter egg hinting the second dream.

I think the Lotus' white eyes might be due to her taking the form of Marghulis who was blinded by the Tenno in an accident

I come back here from time to time to see if you're back, take as much time as you need as long as you're okay

Therapist: Rebecca-Lotus isn't real. She can't hurt you. Rebecca-Lotus: 4:50

So uh… when is the new theory for the new war coming?

So hyped for the emotional kabooze!

Since time passes (if not backwards or however else) differently in the void, I can say that the Tenno from the trailer (the one with 3 old, dusty frames) can - or actually is- the same person that charges the void beam while facing Natah and these bombalists (or whatever sentiments they are), but just travelled back in time.

"Hey all, _Tzeentch_ here"

We should give lotus the choice to dream of not what she is, but what she wants to be. a choice she gave us but seems to have been taken from the lotus herself.

Im starting to believe the lotus was always margulis

What is the music used for the new war man, really wanna know

Guys, the whistles reference The Duviri Paradox, they perfectly match the Duviri trailer music. Pretty sure I'm one of the only people that was aware of this near the beginning, middle and the end of the quest itself.

bro I can't wait the post new war video

Anyone else noticed in the actual game erras lack of eyes are now orbs?

What are your thoughts on the AoZ update?

I really wish you could do a recab of the hole story plz when ever you could . Ty for all your these vid I love them .

How come we don’t have a well known Tenno(Npc)? Like one that did something major.

Speculation is so fun; thanks sIEGE

Having finished the quest, I at first thought it was great. But the more I actually think about it the less I like it, especially the end. Hope you'll be looking into it deeper to help me sort my thoughts. The trailer was a lie, that disappointed me.