I don't think a manager acting rationally can keep Rashford and Casemiro on for the full 90 minutes when they play like that. We all know they're out of form, so why didn't ten Hag make a change? My reading of the situation is that either EtH is being pressured by Upper Management to keep playing these out of form players, like Rashford, as they're on massive wages (this also could potentially be contract related), or more worryingly, EtH fears he will lose the dressing room altogether if Rashford (and all the rest) are dropped.

When will Streford Paddock talk about Rashford. Guy is stealing a living at Old trafford😢

So why start Garnacho if he hadn't been training all week. Diallo should have probably started.

You don’t single out a 19 year old when your “star” players on 300k a week are absolutely terrible.

I believe that Garnacho has had some form of hamstring issue and thats why he's not been training this week...that being said..why not play Amad... ETH not doing himself any favours by sticking with the same players giving poor performances...he needs to do something now...

I think keep for now, who would replace him? Southgate? We have had issues for years and this season brutal injuries and form have highlighted the underlying issues. So many short sighted fans. Having said that its hard to defend ETH at times.

EtH is not helping himself. I've been saying for ages that constantly changing managers is not the way to go but it CAN also be true that EtH is not the right manager for the way forward. I trust Ineos and the backroom players they are recruiting to make the right decision whatever that may be.

If we sack ETH we will be going back another 3 years!! What ETH is doing with this team is brilliant. We have one of the worst teams in the league but are still 7th and in semi final of fa cup. Bournemouth would kill for that! We have to stop being spoilt and expecting us to be Alex Fergusons Manchester United! We were always a cup team until Ferguson took over, even under Busby we weren't dominant. I don't know what people expect with these players 😂 WE DREW!!! ZA good result for these players

Rashford must have these lot by the balls, when are you guys gonna talk about this dude parading around as a professional football player?

I think we do need a change of players and manager now. Rashford, varane, martial, lindelof, sancho, greenwood, maguire, mctominay all need to go. Seems best to go with a completely fresh start.

All the people going in on Garnacho, yeah he played bad yestersay, so did most of the team, Casemero could do with a wheelchair he was that slow, Rashford could do with a can of Red bull because he's absolutely lazy almost the whole season, Bruno isn't sticking to his position on the pitch (probably compensating for the lack of displine with other players) Hoilund isn't getting much service, but he's not doing a whole lot off the ball, his positioning as a forward isn't great either. And ETH is a coward, calling out players like Sancho and Garnacho, but no mention of Rashfords poor form all season and lack of effort. No mention of how bad Onana was at the start, no mention of Brunos poor form, he's selective in who he chooses to criticise publicly, he knows who to pick his fight with, calling out a 19 year old and a 23 year old, but he would never do it to lord Rashford. He got rid of Ronaldo because he knew he couldnt handl his ego, because Tenhag is a bloody fraud, I was sticking up for Tenhag but he has become absolutely deluded and he keeps picking players who don't care about the club or the fans, they are there for their own selfish reasons. No heart in the club anymore, been destroyed by overweight americans who look more into the dinner plate than they do the club! Disgraceful all round

I wish we could see something different tactically before the season ends. Also hope we win the FA cup.

You’re allowed to say Mark’s name Jay…

If Southgate or Potter are seriously being considered for the managerial role at United, I'm calling it quits with my support for the club.

ETH looks like he’s aged 50 years in twelve months. This job is taking its toll on him. If he goes I wouldn’t blame him, nice little pay out and take a year off

Why dosnt United get rid of Rasford and a few others .

Not seen anything to suggest the tactics and football is good enough to win trophies since he’s been in charge, yeah we won the league cup playing against farmers in lucky draws . Complete bottled the final v city , looked like children every time we played city , lost 7-0 against Liverpool (that was sackable) his win rate might be the best but he’s broken ALL the WRONG records achieving it , not seen anything to suggest he is better than Solskjaer either with man management or tactics . We are just postponing the inevitable, we need to act now or when we get beat of Coventry in 7 days , act like a modern ruthless club and sack the manager, not acceptable by any stretch .

Still not taken Rangnick's advice

as soon as he was subbed i said i bet EtH comes out and says he was injured during the week. it was so obvious. im done with him now. you dont keep Rashford on for 90 mins with that performacnce and bring off a kid who has won you plenty of games this year. change the fking tactics if he is struggling in a game .

Rashford needs to go.. simple... let's change the dynamics at the club...

I think I read that it's possible to get Nagelsmann in....probably a good shout at this stage.

Open heart surgery is not fun to watch but it takes time and cracked ribs…

Hard to back ETH lately. But he deserves a chance under the new setup. At the minute it is his values and principles that the players are being asked to follow. In a large club such as United there should be club values and principles set by the hierarchy that everyone is set to follow. These values are not in place so players feel like they are being asked to do things according to ETHs values, so they feel like they can argue with them/not do them and get away with it as there are no repercussions from higher up. Manager and club need to have matching values and principles and demand it from players and if they’re not met, they’re done

After the game paper talk I think it is dangerous. Like when Ste 5 things we've learned it gets more prospective the day after.

Utd do the simple things really badly.

Pep has no problem leaving out his stars

When we get beat of Coventry then he'll be gone. It's the same shite every week

Patience. ETH will get it right.

I have been calling for his head since his disastrous signings in the pre-season and the awful performances from last season that were covered up by Rashford and Licha. With that said, we have almost left it too late now. At this point if we change manager then the entire makeup of the team has been changed by Ineos and any and all issues next season will fall on them. That will bring with it a huge amount of pressure and pretty much doom the manager. By trying to stick with Ten Hag despite him being obviously out of his depth, we have created yet another shit situation for ourselves. It is honestly incredible at this point. We hit when we should stick and we stick when we should hit. Keep him for next season and blame any and all issues on him so that he can be scapegoated if there are teething issues with Berrada and Ashworth etc. In the meantime do everything we can to try and get one of the TOP managers interested in the job. Alonso, Inzaghi, Flick, Nagelsmann, Ancelotti, Spalletti. Someone of that ilk. If and when they become available, discard Ten Hag like a bad smell just like he did with De Gea and Ronaldo. I really think we need to do everything we can to get Alonso. I know he played for Liverpool but Busby also played for City and Liverpool. What he did with that Leverkusen team was special. Every bit as impressive as Jose at Porto and even more impressive than Klopp at Dortmund. He is going to be the next world class manager. Pull out all the stops and if it still fails then at least we tried. If we get Potter or Southgate then I am soooo fucking done, though. They might not be quite as woeful as ETH but that is a criticism of him and not praise of them.

This is a reality check why would anyone think we will win the FA cup

100% it's the end......not sure hell get to the semi. Hes lost the total plot

Go on then Stretford Paddock. Call for another managers head. Cant wait to do this all again in 18 months time when Gareth Southgate has us in 10th place playing Maguire over a healthy Lisandro Martinez every week.

To be honest Jay I watched in disbelief at just how bad we were against Bournemouth. We were awful for 90 minutes. Bruno dug us out with a scrambled effort and we got a lucky penalty, that for me shouldn't have been given. Attacking, defending and midfield play all woeful, there was absolutely no positives apart Onana keeping us in it.

Play antony and amad for a change if garnacho’s injured and rashford’s gone off the boil. Antony played well against liverpool and chelsea.

Too many average players and the manager is clueless

Hopefully 🙏🏼🙏🏼

Why is no one talking about Onana? He's been brilliant lately. Without him, Manchester United would be worst off in the league. I get the mainstream media are anti-United, but I was hoping that fan channels would at least mention his good form of late. But, I guess I was wrong. They like to talk only about the gossip and negatives surrounding the club.

Have to get him out right now.

Yes

Alonso in! TenHag bye bye.

Big up @Jay 💯 this is the end of Ten Hag. My prediction where I said we would finish this season seems that I was right.

It’s not good to change managers every 5 minutes but it’s also not good to stick with this shocking football. Get rid

Ten hag in💪🏽

Why does a false depiction of ten Hag’s action lead to an air of anything other than very real anger toward the author of the article(s) who made the false claim?!? That known, why isn’t there a very real demand for the sacking of the editor in chief of the publication who hired a blatant liar to work for him or the publication?? Instead, a false depiction of ten Hag’s actions lead to -- an indictment of -- him. Make it make sense.

Garnacho 100 % right to show anger, makes things happen saved ten hag all season, rashford /Antony preference.... WhY!

Personally most players need to go before a manager, if the manager goes first that means the players win once again.

He’s done pal. Players are playing for the fans a little bit…but they’re not playing for ETH.

Can't wait to see the new bookies favourite on who the players will sack next.

Misrepresentation - he said he brought Garnacho in to bring those qualities, check it again. I think United wil be in a better position if we keep ETH and sell Mainoo, Garna and Rasmus than if we sack ETH. The club is two brilliant games from everything being forgiven.

Ten Hag, forced Ajax signings and every SEG related transaction needs to be investigated and reversed.

*I try to ignore and not believe the media stories that he's already gone... That he's lost half the dressing room, and that ETH changed a few weeks ago... but I think him walking out of the press conference is very telling... I think there's already been meetings between him and INEOS, and he'll be gone in the summer*

Honestly, I've lost faith in the manager at this point. Approaching almost every game in the wrong way and seems clueless.

Garnacho needs a rest he has played a lot of games ETH didn't storm off he got asked a question after the press manager said last question and just said i am not answering that and walked away 🤯

What i dont understand is if the player plays poorly why does he need to do things online? Just own it n agree n show on the pitch. Its hardly 'throwing the player under the bus' by saying he didnt play well n needed to sub. Hes 19 ffs, does he think hes the finished product already?

Let's be patience. Erik Ten Hag will get it it right. I feel he is the right manger for the Jamb

All this the players aren't good enough is only relevant against the real top teams, Probably 90% of Bournemouth's players aren't good enough (in a sense of they wouldn't get into the top teams squads) Same for Brentford same for Fulham but all of them have a manager who can coordinate a play to completely out play and baffle ETH because he his clueless. So say the players are not good enough if you want but you also have to include the manager in with that also and stop being blind and apologetic to the real problem our goal gets peppered with shots near enough every game and the manager says he's not bothered about that aspect of the game. Honestly I just don't know what United games some people are watching you are not in reality ETH is so far out of his depth United is eating him alive, he his in shark infested waters but doesn't have the brains to swim quickly to the shore, Neither do some fans.

The club need another complete overhaul with Ineos leading the charge. Unfortunately, we got it wrong with ETH, struggle to see why some people still think this guy has a process we need to trust. We're worse now than in the last 10 years. We'd spend $900M and be in 15th, and they'd still say trust the process. ETH needs to go and take 9 players with him. Start Over.

When the going gets tough...Ten Hag gets going 😂

It’s done

Honestly Jay, everything is an excuse for this manager... I refuse to believe that all these players want to be losers... This manager does nothing to change tactics, style of play, or the players that he plays, and it's [enter some bullshit here] every other week... we are getting washed by teams we used to wipe the floor with... and winning the FA Cup is out of the question... Have you seen Coventry play?? they play with style, they play with passion, and their manager changes shit if it's not working... we do none of that... at all... EtH is completely out of his element and has turned world-class players and a decent squad into a mid-table team... we can't build, we can't score, we can't transition, and we certainly can't defend but we are supposed to "Trust the Process" and not worry about conceding 17+ shots every game?? that's absolute madness... Tired of tenHag's United...

for people saying give him time lets see what he does under a new structure and my question is why? what has he done to show that he can compete and best with europes elite?? his contract with us is different to how ineos wants to move on as well ... he is a good coach yes but absolutely replacable by most managers

Probably. We could I suppose win the FAC and start playing wonderful football for the rest of the season but it seems unlikely.

you guys couldn’t call Rashford?

I don’t think the structure is that bad. He has to bring the defensive line up that’s the only thing. I will put most of it down to the player. In yesterday’s game when we lost the ball and opp player got in possession we had three players on the side Garnacho, Casemiro and Dalot by the touch line. Now our intensity of press was so horrible that their possession with the same player ended up in final third. Thats one e.g countless other are there in first half. In second half we were much better. As a manager you can only put in the structure the application needs to come from the players. I don’t think changing manager will solve the problem,it will only add to it. The players are the issue. Lack of physicality intensity tactical awareness it can be drilled. Just poor from our players.

On manager@a time ETH

if you just listen to what he said. Does a player really have to take it personal? I didn't hear any direct criticism.

ETH is not the problem. Most of the players are just lazy .

To many ego's Get rid of rashford Get rid of maguire Get rid of varane Get rid of casamiro Get rid of Ericsson Get new blood, people that wanna fight then see where we are

Feels like the end and should be the end it’s been horrific this season

Eccles cakes in … Glaziers out Jay’s lovely shaped head give us a shout

he seems like a good manager,but some of his ingame decisions this season and last is strange to be honest

End of the day, players have more power than the manager. Both board and fans.

ETH believes that results are the ones that will keep him in a job not the performances . everyone told him this wasnt unsustainable he refused to listen and now we are here . but for me a manager abandoning their whole philosophy is soo down right horrendous i dont even know what he is thinking .

Rashy Fan Boy Channel!

Southgate in next? Maybe Potter? Things are looking bleak if those are the options.

I hope Thiago Motta come, at least I think it will be better than Ten Hag play mode.

Faith

Ten Hagg needs to go now we need to get rid of players this summer really need BIG changes at this club no back bone from certain players Rashford offers nothing upfront Rasmus not getting any service Casmerio is not the player he was anymore I really hope INIOS bring the right players in

united need two CM, two CB and a striker , if there's money left a winger too. At this rate I dont think we will see no more than 3 signings.

The only ETH fault I can think of is his insistence on playing Rashy, BENCH HIM!

Ten hag out?🤷‍♂️

Fans chose players over Jose who eventually begged for the sack, Ole needs to drop McFred and unlock' Pogba, his tactics and coaching are shit what is McKenna and Carrick teaching them?.... and here we are again.

Garnacho’s still a youngster, plays very immaturely at times and seems to spit his dummy out every time he gets subbed. He has been poor for a few games now, if the manager decided to sub him because it’s what he feels is best for the team then I say fair play. Zip it and work hard in training during the week to secure that starting place again. Jumping to socials to like comments like a petulant child isn’t the right way to go about it.

Bet we could get Ralf back 😂 Ten Hag needs to go back to the Dutch league

It has to be the end . !

I wander if Garnacho will be dropped and sent away like Sancho.

Didnt look good for ETH last night, I hear people are now blaming Ineos for ETH performances. Yes lets blame the new owner who got their hands tied until Omar Berrada actually starts working. Also they doing what they can do get Ashworth who would be 2nd in command and could be the one to do something. I do not get that Logic that a different channel has.

Why are we constantly being bombarded by shots by every team? Is it poor tactics from above or is it players not executing instructions correctly? I have always believed in ETH but we are opening the gates in every game, inviting attacks. I don’t have the answers…but our manager needs to!

Let's hope so. He's clueless.

Lets sack another manager!! What could possibly go wrong 😂

I think we all put too much on Willy K to be honest

Y can't this generation of 18 to 25 year olds can't take criticism

If he hadn’t trained then he shouldn’t have played so it’s on Ten Hag Dalot and Rashford where the worst two players on that pitch yesterday

Seems like a real anti ten Hag agenda on Stretford paddock. Any talk on rashford stealing a living? The fact we haven't had our back four all season? The fact ten Hag wasn't allowed to buy a striker in January, the greenwood/sancho saga's. Working under the worst owners in prem history... At what point do we actually stick with a manager. Because on this video you can hear this guy talk about ten Hag the way he very likely talked about van gaal, mourinho and ole. Do you people want a new guy every 2 fucking years. Or do you want to let ten Hag finish his process. Because changing managers every 2 years has clearly fucking worked eh! How about the getting rid of some of these players who clearly don't give a fuck. Get rashford gone, if psg are stupid enough to offer £100 million, take a it and run. Shaw, lindelof, maguire, mctominay, Antony and wan bissaka all need to be replaced. Its not all on the manager.

Rather finish bottom half and get beat by Coventry if it results in baldy getting sacked. He is hopeless.

He's gotta go, his pressers are getting mental, the team are conceding shots every 2/3mins throughout games which means either his tactics are gash or the players dont listen to him either way its not changed all season and as a fan if over 30years incant handle no more im going to start watching Stockport instead.

Jay trying to defend the players again and trying to put it all on the manager

Believe me once the players get rid of eth there will be a big upturn in form, the new manager will come and once he’s settled in the players will turn on him and form will go and so it continues. How many managers will be put the sword by players who don’t care about the club.

If ETH gets the sack, get Olé back, and sack all them players that refuses to captain the team during his reign. With the structure being built by Sir Jim, we need to give Olé another chance. I’d like to be proven wrong, and ETH can turn shit around

If they get rid of EtH before getting rid of Marcus T Rashford this club is doomed. Bruno could go for the FFP too, seen enough of his wasteful game regardless of the effort he puts in.