Most games are lazy with difficulties anyway, change a few numbers and oh its harder. Only a few games (which i adore for it) actually alter level design for difficulty

Wasn't this the issue with DW8 as well tho? It was more like a numbers game and you can still break any officer by just mashing the correct element switches.

MGlBlaze Can someone tell me why they changed the flashy, unique characters and stylized theme of DW I thought that's what this series was about from the League of Zelda and Fire Emblem spin offs. This realistic open world version seem pointless

Focus testing. Trend chasing. Trying to innovate by being the same as successful things that are not dynasty warriors

Barney Collington Thank you

Yea that's also what my uncle Nintendo told me.

But what about the Konami code? you didn't enter it on the touchscreen

I'd pay to see the smooth criminal music video with Jim instead of Michael.

literally nothing else is accurate. Plus you can buy those 'unrealistic' weapons now.

Really MOST of the weapons are historic real world weapons. Zhang He's might be EXAGERATED, but the fucking claws existed.

Even the Qiaos' fans were actual weapons

Didn’t the older games let you fight with an actual fisherman’s boat? Like, just using a boat as a weapon by swinging it? Mind you, this is a series where one soldier slaughters hundreds on a battlefield per battle, solo. But, realism tho am I right?

Because historically, during the warring kingdoms era, if a kingdom wanted weapons beyond swords and spears for their army they needed to buy them as DLC

If only it were true...

It's a beta, trust me.. It's just you have to pay for the beta, and there's no compensation for playing it, just wait until DW9 XL or Empires comes out, no guarantee it'll be amazing, but it'll be an improvement.

Beta? It's a fucking Alpha

This is a fucking pre-build.

The game isn't as bad as everyone makes it look, not saying it's a good game, but it's actually better than people say.. Glitches and stuff is rather normal for many games. At least it doesn't crash every 5 minutes like other games, and there's a lot of smaller details that show a lot of effort actually went into the game. Just not in some of the core stuff that matters, in short: most of the effort went into the wrong place. This game is actually enjoyable. It's just hard to enjoy anything if you just join the hate wagon.

Ersen Life of the Trump Tiger

Well played

*sigh* Oh you. Take your comment like and get the hell out.

Congratulations sir, you have just won the internet!

At least we got that joke out of this game. Thank God for you.

I've clocked in at 22 hours playing this game...and only after that I decided I want a refund...and that was before I watched Jim's first review of this game... well there are worse ways to waste one's life...

I believe that already is a prerequisite

WickedRibbon I watched a dude lp the game and stop on his second video, he sounded so hurt and apologized that he couldn't take it no more. Cancelled the game and uninstalled it, had me going, damn.....shit is that bad.

who is that dude? can you link me that video?

Arphaxad Basiloña Go to "Keith Ballard" channel and search "Dynasty Warriors 9 part 2, This was a mistake".

I think Super Mario Sunshine did not have this issue and that game is over 20 years old. Granted Sunshine was not an Open World game but for the time it was beautiful. Still is one of the best looking games of all time.

And to think, I was hard on Musou All-Stars...

Truth!

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Unity assets warriors 9

Ass War 9.

This one is a hell of a lot better than 6 which is the true worst one

I dunno man not to me. I at least played 6 for a map or two before wanting to forget about it. I don't want to go anywhere near this one at all. That's just me though.

nah, DW6 are way better than this game. dw6 dont look like asset flip and their design look like an upgrade from the previous dw, hell dw6 lu bu armor in my opinion is the best looking, he looks like a demon there, and hard as fuck.

I agree with ya there I forgot about Lu Bu's costume from that game it was the best! Actually that was that games best strength. Most of the costumes were pretty sweet.

Reminds me of the song 'Invincible' by Twelve Foot Ninja

Just play some Sengoku Basara instead.

ubisoft games actually are better designed mechanically..........now that makes tears come out

TheRAMBO9191 Their games are no where near as bad as you make them out to be. They have highly polished gameplay mechanics. The only issue is that their games can feel samey and a bit buggy.

its the most poorly optimized pc game since pubg! at least that game was some what playable

Getting mixed results on that end. Mine runs fine minus the iconic DW slowdown when there's a shitton of mobs onscreen.

And even in the missions where you could run straight to the boss, they gave you a reason not to. If you run straight to the boss, enemy ambushes would devastate your forces, or assassins would kill your leader. A good warriors game has you running around too busy trying to put out fires to just charge in with no strategy.

OverlordRainyday exactly. You couldn't just run after the big bosses unless you wanted to watch people on your side Drop like Oriental flies.

I have put literly thousands of hours into the dynasty warriors series, the only game that forced you to take bases was 6. The rest allow you to run to the end and finish it and if you were good enough it was never that punishing

Gordon Parker when the guy appeared from the start. That was not always the case.

Um no a lot of times there were walls in the way, dudes in the way, or the main guy wasn't even there until certain events happened. Heck dynasty warriors 6 more than the others let you run to the end without waiting since you could just manually smash through gates to get to the boss. I remember the battle for Hulao Gate you could legit just sprint past everyone, smash the gate to the castle yourself, bitch slap Lu Bu, and instantly kill Dong Zhuo and win without waiting for anything, you had to be a high level to do it but you could do it easily.

Dennis Cassidy please don't give them any ideas

That would be so cool! You play as a single player, rise through the ranks and make it onto a pro team. I actually think that's awesome.

That's career mode, not open world.

I actually would like to see how terrible a Madden open world game would be

That would probably actually be really funny.

i don't agree with jim a lot, but if jim knows anything about video games, it's about dynasty warriors. i can't help but agree with every single point he's made about it.

Other people who have also played the series for similar amounts of time.

I can, I have played all of them apart from DW7XL. I am not going to though as he is absolutely spot on about the desires of the fanbase. Dynasty warriors has always looked bad, but the glitching was kept to a minimum because the maps were small. I'm really not digging the voice of Mr Burns. I have to take it on his impression, but I know exactly what he means by dynasty warriors 3 having some cheesy lines. Also the doubling up on weapons is normal for a first title, but is always annoying to see. The weapons are always a part of the personality of the general, and I would have rather seen some generals turning back generic than having the same weapon reused again on special officers. The question is what can be done ? I feel like they are running out of steam on this enterprise. That's why it has been 3 years since empires. I personally am starting to get bored about all the scenarios and I fear the fanbase in general might be as well. If they wanted to see a mode similar than they should have used the officer mode in DW5 (XL?). In that you start out with 3 attacks and use gold to upgrade your character. Hard mode really doesn't look hard enough. It would have been nice to have a battle in an open world that took a long time to complete, and while this was happening other officers were doing more important battles you had no control over. Or perhaps put in the duel mechanic from DW4. Ah I am ranting, still unless Jim is a god at this game then I assume it is far too easy to have fun. The fun is either in the challenge or in the mayhem, and there is no mayhem to be had in this game.

Goron1988 I played Guan Yu as my first character in DW9 started on hard eventually went to chaos. It took me almost 50 hours to complete his story. I really like this game but obviously it could be a lot better I'm hoping they update it through the months though. Empires for this game will be awesome as long as they improve on this system. It does suck that this game is getting a lot of backlash but it's understandable. I like the new combat system and I think all the clones are semi clones they don't share every single attack which is nice obviously

It's been a weird experience for me. I've been a fan of it since DW4, but I've been pretty quiet about the series since nobody else ever seemed to like it, ever, even when Orochi and DWG2 came out, but now nobody seems to really hate it anymore. How times have changed.

DW hard mode and up boils down to artificial difficulty spikes to make it hard, at least in my experience.

Yeah, sadly hard or "chaos" modes in these games have never really been exactly harder, just more grindy. Yeah, enemies can hurt you for more, but the main issue is that they just have a ton of health and take forever to smash down. I often only really play on Hard or Chaos when it's an unlock requirement for weapons and such. Because I don't find taking 5 minutes to kill one officer and their ridiculously inflated health bar to be fun.

Difficulty settings are a dated concept frankly. Players cannot be expected to know how they would best experience a game without having already played it. When I was young I tended to keep games on normal difficulty because when I started on hard I'd get destroyed. Now I tend to start on hard because it actually forces me to learn the details of the game and I tend to get far more out of it. I missed entire interesting game systems because I had decided that losing didn't seem fun. So their impulse isn't necessarily wrong. I also understand in the context of DW because the recent ones were downright boringly easy on normal. Honestly requiring higher difficulty settings for game systems to even matter is bad design, but it's also ubiquitous. I was really hoping dark souls might have shown that there are benefits to going with only one difficulty setting, but it seems few others caught on.

The "hard mode" shit just makes the enemy longer to kill, hence more tiring and tedious with nothing rewarding at the end. Just another task... Then rinse and repeat 🤦

I t ' s a f e a t u r e

Koei used the term "orthodox" in a Japanese interview, and people thought it meant "realism."

Still a dumb excuse for removing weapons.

beniboy well imagine this, those moments that you're forced into moving across the map for 2-5 minutes at a time with no combat were the parts that I hated in the earlier games, they were "emptier" battle grounds, but there were usually enemies and skirmishes all over, but that was because keeping a horse was boring and bland, if you had one, sure, 5 minutes became like 1 or 2, but mounted combat besides elephants was so bad, and you couldn't call one, and now, WITH horses on demand being added in the later gens, it's a "main feature" to have empty 5 minute country scenic moments

Are you talking about DW9 or all Warriors games? I like them, but this could be used to describe any of them.

It can go both ways, IMO, though there are issues in DW9 that require both extra patching and maybe another expansion or spin-off (even if those still won't work for Jim, they might convince other players to come back if they see there's more options or better content involved).

I can't speak for Jim, but I'm guessing his issue is largely with the lack of care with which the game has been constructed. If they want to make something different: cool, they've 'sort' of done that before. But the game seems to have an air of lazy incompleteness. I mean, I can see HOW it got like this: they have zero experience with open world games and RPGs and they aren't exactly known for quality to begin with. But, if you aren't good at it and the final product turns out badly, series pedigree means very little. That said, you could DEFINITELY do this to other games in the series. It has long-standing issues with AI, pacing, story, difficulty and presentation. This just takes all those flaws and exacerbates them by scaling back what made it stand out and stretching it out over a massive map.

CASH MAN Best pro tip of all time. 10/10

Best.Tip.EVER!

KZfaq University that's why it's hard mode

Could be bit nobody gives a duck about this game......

I'm sorry but the meme was dead on arrival sorry better luck next time.

Raging Raving time to bust out the slim!!

It's a Dreamcast exclusive.

Han Solo The Dreamcast Guy actually likes this game. After watching his review, I started questioning why I'm subscribed to him????

VileMK69 Z: I vaguely remember a game channel called dreamcastguy. I don't think I've seen it on my recommended for quite some time.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gJiEnMWQqMeUn5s.html Here's the review if you're curious?

There are a bunch of peon captains with multiple health bars they probably thought we wanted to fight. Even named officers you just skip and walk over to the main officer because there is no point, there's no stage structure anymore so it isn't even implied there's a point to fighting them, their troops don't even run away like the older games if you do.

No get DW8 empires; you can at least make your own characters in that one. I dunno; I just like Empires partly better. Or ANY of the animu spin offs as well.

Thank you for this advice!

I got that as well from Steam JUST BECAUSE of his video. Thing is I've only played Hyrule Warriors, but it's one of my favorite games on the Wii U. I've clocked 200 hours, and I'd actually love to throw another $60 at this game to get the Switch 'Definitive Edition' IF and ONLY IF it has a save transfer. :P I wanted to see what the main series was like so I picked it up. That said I must say Dynasty Warriors 8 Xtreme Edition is a good bit of fun, but in some ways the caveats to the fighting I felt in Hyrule Warriors seems to be exacerbated a bit. Such as blocking being kinda slower and the dodge mechanic which was so useful in Hyrule Warriors is absent. And unfortunately, as I have the PC version, it is a pretty lazy port. All controls are referenced via keyboard, and the original presets for the controller (only detects if you plug it in before turning on game) are not even what they are on console. Plus button bindings are listed for any generic controller (listings including J5, B4, etc. so you have no idea what it's set to just by looking at it). Definitely a far-cry from the kind of love seen in PC versions of DOOM and GTA V. Plus it came out for last gen, current gen, and PC, and thus is also apart of what a few games released in 2013, 2014 suffered from; current consoles looking very near-last gen in performance. High settings on my PC? Still doesn't look as good as Hyrule Warriors on the Wii U. It looks and feels like an XBOX 360 game, not a PS4 one. [But differences were so large, they and many other games at the time had to do this to get the same game on both systems] Wow. I ranted for a while, haha! It has it's caveats and it's crashed on me twice, but this kind of gameplay I find addicting and it's been a good bit of fun, 7 hours in and I can see spending a bit more.

Empires is trash. it's not a typical DW games. it has like a board game type of feel to it. dont get that shit.

I recommend Samurai Warriors 4 Empires. I’ve played most DW games since DW4 (on PS 3&4), and this one is my fave. DW is still the best CoOp game ever. And you should be able to score a 2nd hand copy of SW4E for about $20.

I think he purposely made this video look bad cus it looks a hell of a lot better when I played it.

Jim is a lot of things, but he isn't going to doctor footage to prove that *this* is hot garbage. Nice try.

lmao youre absolutely delusional to think Jim would edit a footage to look bad. fucking fanboy lol

No shit I'm a fanboy thats why I'm still playing this series. Take my shirt off

Project Genesis but Jim is a fanboy too so whats your point?

i love fire emblem warriors its my favorite switch game yet cant wait for payday 2 on switch

I just beat FEW's story mode today, fun game, tad short.

yep i hope they add kana in the future

I completed Fire Emblem Warriors in 6 hours, felt burned, and had no reason to play it again.

I didn’t care much for the combat of Fire Emblem: Warriors -because i’ve been spoiled fucking rotten by playing Kingdom Hearts recently- but I genuinely loved how I was able to give my AI buddies commands -even though they didn’t always listen-

Eh, he'll probably hate that it's DLC (even if we've always got XL or whatever expansions before) and, while it may objectively improve some things (there will be extra weapons but not all the removed ones, because it's not that simple if you really got into the details of how the game plays now), it won't totally move away from the concept or fill the open world with stuff. So it's clear Jim, who hates both playing and seeing this game in action, will not like it anyway.

hating on a subpar game in a series where it has produced stellar games before? EGAD!!! GASP!!! THATS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE!!!! AND JIM HAS THE AUDACITY TO HATE IT MORE FOR IT'S FUTURE FORAY INTO THE DLC MARKET??? QUE HORROR!!!!... just stop it JG...dude...you are really trying too hard to be Koei Tecmo Dynasty Warriors NEIN apologist...

i was hoping he rip labo to shreds (pun gloriously intended) and piss off the manbabby nintendo fans AGAIN ....but.....this is more important

krystalfan Labo is a cool idea, but massively overpriced for what is effectively just cardboard and a few small games

How was he being an apologist? He was not disagreeing with your 'superior' opinion anyway. He never said that this was better than the previous games or that this one does not have issues, what teh fuck are you bullshitting about man haha. Love how people who dislike the game are going outof their way to insult others to feel all superior and shit.

Prety true this argument is prety phatetick a good gamw should be engouble in all modes

There are a handful of games that are like that. I found Skylanders was insultingly easy to the point of being boring on normal mode, but was decently challenging and fun in hard mode. Which makes sense, with it being a kids game. DW doesn't have any excuse.

Jasmine Nice at least there's no loot boxes

Yet.

And all that DLC is in the Empires Edition.

£500 of DLC?! holy crap. oh yeah I'm here for the classic Jim line "what they DID to Zhang He"

That's quite a reductive way of thinking.

This game is pretty reductive.

Definitely some people out there who want to avoid feeling buyer's remorse.

In my case I deserve all the shit I would get for buying this game due to the "OPEN WORLD" hype...I thought this would be like DW8XL but Open world...but oh was I wrong...now I am just waiting for a refund from Steam...

only happens when hold block button down, yeah it's strange looking.

That's always been how the horses worked in this series.

he did, but that's for patreons only :D

This is the most terrifying statement I've read today.

Buttstuff Are you serious? In the Chinese historical story they took out the Chinese dub? Christ

They did indeed, and there's no patch for the graphics issues.

Apparently the Chinese dub wasn't supposed to be available on steam (licensing issues or something? idk), but there was a work-around to use them since the files were still there. Though now the patch removes the ability to use them at all.

Someone found another work around on the Steam forums, but at this point they should just license it and add it into the game. The rating is down to 15% for all Languages and 44% for English reviewers on Steam, and I dont' doubt that the Chinese language removal tipped that scale /hard/ because it was at 30% for all Languages yesterday.

Yep, a lot of angry Chinese users now. If fighting Lu Bu has taught me anything, it's that you don't make Chinese people angry.

I can agree with that, even though I don't hate the game even 50% as much as Jim. I found little reason to do that.

Tbh though, that would at least be ambitious. Unlike DW9.

Warriors Orochi 3 is the only of these games I've played.

I've not played a warriors game in a while, but I kind of remember them jumping that high in every game; I also recall it being some sort of AoE impact, supposedly to help you get into a mob.

>implying that's bad

As far as I remember, they've always done that. And you're crazy...it's glorious! Horseback fighting has always been the dullest part as far as I'm concerned but at least the jumping is ridiculous fun.

Some games do get better with a difficulty boost because they ten to ask you to do more with their mechanics. DW9 sounds like it just asks you to have the patience of a saint though...

Don't forget the poison acid or whatever you throw about while spinning, totally legit I do it all the time

that's a tuesday for me.

Who can't take two chakra and tear through entire armies IRL? TRUE soldiers have been doing that for a past few centuries! I think Jim isn't a next-level Dynasty Warrior like me.

You saw Mush's video, I take it?

It does objectively have performance issues. That's totally true and Jim is fully correct to point them out. I just don't agree with some other things he's said, or they don't bother me.

"We're cool with that" Doesn't seem like it to me. Can't say you like the game without people calling it garbage, crap and the only way that someone could possibly like this game is that they are forcing themselves or they are just plain stupid. And then people expect them to just take it without retaliating or being upset. People who don't like this game should learn to respect those who do like the game and vice-versa. Respect is a two lane street.

she seemed so innocent back in dw5, now she just battle hardened and only shows "weakness" to liu shan

The fork

ShadowWolfRising they never had good taste to begin with

Yeah, that definitely seems to be the case.

lol the mental gymnastics required...

It is more like cognitive dissonance. Meaning when you make a decision (or purchase) you later seek to justify it to make yourself comfortable with what you gave up, here money of course. Which means you will sometimes fail to see reality as it is because you're trying to convince yourself you made a good purchase. It is basic human behavior. Though I guess some people are more delusional about it than others.

As I said, the first stage of grief over the loss of your money. :P

I like it, but I call Koei out for its trash practices.

Have you been playing Rime to brush up on your stages? ;-D

No, I just know. Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance.

The prpblem the Omega Force is no longer formal selves they are Anime Gacha mobile devs.

Ben Gonzales someone should have told that to whoever made Mass Effect open world.

P K that one as open world since the first game they actually improved the open world that was in the first game

Ben Gonzales I never liked that aspect in the first game. I feel ME should be more linear if anything or semi-open at most like Bioshock, since most people play it for the story anyway.

P K yea I can see that. That's kind of that me 2 had

P K I thought you meant it should have just been like halo with interactive cut scenes