Tiger Mom's Secret to Successful Children

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John Stossel

John Stossel

7 жыл бұрын

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@garysanders6091
@garysanders6091 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not a parent. But I'd imagine there should be a middle ground between a tiger mom & a Gen X 'let the kid do whatever he/she wants' that should happen. Instead of 4 hours of practice, 2 hours and 2 hours to do whatever you want. A balance between structure and freedom.
@thepianoplayer416
@thepianoplayer416 6 жыл бұрын
Pushing and encouraging the kids to do better isn't exactly a bad thing as long as parents don't overdo it. The worst kind of parents are those who pretend to be the know-all in everything. They expect kids to just obey house rules and they'll be fine. Some kids ended up afraid to try anything on their own. Like when you had your first piano lesson, your mom or dad is already telling you that you're playing all the wrong keys. You need to quit early because you have no talent... instead of telling you to try harder and eventually succeed. When it comes to learning music, practice time is relative to the level and the pieces you are working on. As a beginner, you might say if you practicing 6h a day you would become a concert pianist. If you are working on an easy piece (just 1 piece), maybe an hour is more than enough. Went through the music practice regiment myself and found that if you do things in an efficient way, you probably don't need more than 2h a day to learn a couple of easy songs. Otherwise you might say the student is practicing the wrong way and would take longer to learn the same pieces as someone who practices the right way the first time. By the time you get to a higher level like a conservatory Gr. 6, you'd put in the extra time anyway without having your parents to push you.
@jamesbond-yx9hi
@jamesbond-yx9hi 6 жыл бұрын
Gary Sanders I'm not a parent and I might question her methods but the result is her daughter is successful. She might be on to something.
@raspiankiado4658
@raspiankiado4658 5 жыл бұрын
jamesbond009 Successful at a career and not at being a human being. The daughter most likely hates that she is successful, and she must have a terrible personality. I call that state of mind the Cheerleader Psychology, where the kid is aiming for perfection (usually the standards are set by perfectionist parents) and is so obsessed at being one of the best that, they become intolerant of failure and being imperfect. They may grow up to be successful at their job, but are very inhumane. Without humanity or empathy, they don't usually grow good personalities because the fear of failure creates stress. And since they had no other emotions to combat the negative ones, they end up more likely to cause harm to people around her than good.
@ncg8224
@ncg8224 5 жыл бұрын
Violinist and Pianist? I find these to be unusefull in a modern society and are just used for bragging rights to other parents that their kid can do this. They should use that time to do homework or a way to pursue their future career probably do some chores. Not to mention these sessions cost a lot per hour, I would encourage my kid to do it if they desire to do so but forcing them? That just sounds like the worst thing you could do as a parent. It's good to encourage and teach discipline to a child to give them rewards for that and show the consequences that will happen by disobeying. However this woman overdoes it and it may just backfire on her just like it did on crimewatch daily. From what I see and hear, most of these kids feel depressed and are at the brink of suicide.
@dangreving1094
@dangreving1094 5 жыл бұрын
Gary Sanders i agree some common sense middle ground,
@asantesamuel13
@asantesamuel13 3 жыл бұрын
She's like the reactionary manifestation of the Me generation that rewards kids all the time and refuses to be critical. She's all about discipline and criticism to get results, less about love and understanding. You need both approaches!
@yaerootaegrewriowollio5232
@yaerootaegrewriowollio5232 3 жыл бұрын
Very true but I think she's brainwashed herself into thing her way of parenting is efficient and I think she's the type of person who loves to have total control of people because to her parenting isn't nurturing somebody into adulthood no to her it's a golden opportunity to live out some sort of a control fantasy
@akidmyself4053
@akidmyself4053 4 жыл бұрын
Well, Michael Jackson was deprived of a childhood and that scarred him, despite it making him very successful. I don't see how this ends well for the kids.
@TheLeastOfficialOfBros
@TheLeastOfficialOfBros 4 жыл бұрын
Akid Myself exactly! Michael Jackson had a tiger dad and while he was financially successful he was also accused of molesting kids, had a nasty drug problem that eventually killed him and he regressed into acting like a child for the rest of his life. That’s not a life I would want for any kid no matter how successful they are.
@VeryEmotionalNogginThoughts
@VeryEmotionalNogginThoughts 3 жыл бұрын
Damn. That is kind of a good point.
@elenabob4953
@elenabob4953 3 жыл бұрын
It ends extremely well, with Asians Kids who score the highest at SAT and having well payed jobs due to hard work and the discipline learned when they are young.
@elenabob4953
@elenabob4953 3 жыл бұрын
@@VeryEmotionalNogginThoughts No it isn't because it was an exception and he didn't have a tiger dad but an exploiting dad. The same thing happened with Britney Spears.
@VeryEmotionalNogginThoughts
@VeryEmotionalNogginThoughts 3 жыл бұрын
@@elenabob4953 But when you think about it both have attributes of abuse - over-controlling, over-expectation of achievement, and a lot of wrong mindsets ingrained in the child, abuse, shaming and complaining to the kid to achieve that end. I have a legal practicing license and there is not one day I don't fantasize about killing myself and I pretty much cannot function. For another kid it might be a very successful career but you don't know what's going on inside. For all that it's worth I hope that kids under these parents can somehow be happy after getting out of that relationship. If abuse = discipline and your perception of the value of human life is great grades and great job and financial value, then you've missed the point completely and probably going to perpetuate the cycle.
@williamadiputra2850
@williamadiputra2850 5 жыл бұрын
while i agree overall on what she says. controlling her childern lives is too much. discipline is good. but a devouring mother? that's a nightmare
@sokota6861
@sokota6861 4 жыл бұрын
How the hell is calling your kid "garbage" motivating them to get better?
@cadenhood
@cadenhood 3 жыл бұрын
Recycling.
@janisdikis3386
@janisdikis3386 3 жыл бұрын
Easy. Nobody wants to be garbage. So its motivation to not be one.
@sokota6861
@sokota6861 3 жыл бұрын
@@cadenhood You don’t need to project, buddy.
@sokota6861
@sokota6861 3 жыл бұрын
@@janisdikis3386 Alright! You’re garbage, you’re worth nothing and you are a complete, utter loser. In the Tiger Mom mindset, I’m motivating you to get better and actually doing you a service. Feels good?
@RevAlSharptonz
@RevAlSharptonz 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t care how successful I could have been. Not being able to enjoy my childhood is one of my saddest thoughts. Not having that part of my life sounds super depressing to me. My childhood was freaking great and I wouldn’t trade it for extra material items today.
@raspiankiado4658
@raspiankiado4658 5 жыл бұрын
Tiger mom is a perfectionist. I swear, her way of raising children is just as bad as having kids rule the house.
@spiritanimal7516
@spiritanimal7516 4 жыл бұрын
Trust me its not, Ive seen both.
@aidenaune7008
@aidenaune7008 3 жыл бұрын
its authoritarian vs democratic, both are bad in their own ways, the best one is the in-between; authoritative, where the parent is in charge, but lets their kids be free, i have been raised by both authoritarian and authoritative, and i have seen the outcome of democratic, trust me, authoritative is the best, most people dont like it though, because authoritarian and authoritative both require physical punishment to work, and many dont like the thought of it.
@21area21
@21area21 3 жыл бұрын
@@constantinshim4271 This is a sample size of 2 bud. I can tell you that forcing your children to do what you want does not always result in appreciation nor does it build strong character and grit. It builds sheep that only know how to follow orders. Not curious and brave people who don't just accept the status quo.
@mogden567
@mogden567 3 жыл бұрын
Superiority = big ego Insecurity = low self esteem Worst type of people to have to interact with in my opinion.
@-41337
@-41337 5 жыл бұрын
For those people who are saying this is "racist", the point about Nigerians are spot on. I went to school with many exceptional people, some of them went on to study at MIT. One of them, an African American, was indeed NIGERIAN (he had lived in Nigeria, immigrated to the USA). He had an amazing WORK ETHIC and sense of fidelity and values. He is black, other African Americans are black. Is it really a genetic difference that is holding whites and blacks behind compared to Jews and Asians? Or is it culture? What makes Nigerians so special? A very thought provoking segment.
@BlckCloud73
@BlckCloud73 5 жыл бұрын
It's culture.
@liadam2146
@liadam2146 5 жыл бұрын
superiority if there is any, it's about culture not DNA.
@robertwoodpa6463
@robertwoodpa6463 4 жыл бұрын
@Europa Man How can you possibly KNOW that!? You are making a lot of assumptions here.
@davideyaliscool
@davideyaliscool 4 жыл бұрын
No it's bc all of them are immigrants and didn't come a long time a go.
@marginelouis6674
@marginelouis6674 4 жыл бұрын
@@davideyaliscool it has to do with work ethic and two parent household who wants the best for their children
@emilianocaprili4160
@emilianocaprili4160 5 жыл бұрын
Also my mom wanted me to study piano for 4 hours at day and I stopped playing piano; do you think the two things are related?
@PungiFungi
@PungiFungi 3 жыл бұрын
I do wonder what is this obsession with the frigging piano? Do they want their kids to be concert pianists?
@jadewu2400
@jadewu2400 2 жыл бұрын
No. How much effort did your mum put into your piano playing?
@emilianocaprili4160
@emilianocaprili4160 2 жыл бұрын
@@PungiFungi It was exactly what my mother wanted.
@dominiquecharriere1285
@dominiquecharriere1285 3 жыл бұрын
I think tiger moms are not aiming at make their kids succesfull and happy, they just want to have children they can be proud of when they are with their friends.
@21area21
@21area21 3 жыл бұрын
There's definitely something from her childhood she's trying to make up for. Maybe she never felt like she could attain success and despised her parents for not forcing her to work despite never doing anything herself. And maybe she is jealous of the privileges that modern American kids have. Probably a combination of both if I were to guess. And she's definitely a control freak.
@christinewatson1989
@christinewatson1989 3 жыл бұрын
I went to a VERY academic high school with many students whose parents were exactly like this. My parents by contrast let me do pretty much whatever I wanted, helped me whenever I needed it and understood and accepted when I failed at something. Those kids with the "tiger" moms are in the EXACT same place as I am now- in fact many are LESS successful than I am personally and professionally.
@yaniv_r5951
@yaniv_r5951 5 жыл бұрын
6:33 his eyes say it all
@TheDragonCat99
@TheDragonCat99 4 жыл бұрын
"Your kids love you?" "I think they do!" The fact she has to say "I think they do" and not "I know they do" is kind of concerning to me.
@TheDragonCat99
@TheDragonCat99 4 жыл бұрын
SumKoon It’s the fact she’s not sure. You can always just ask your kid how they feel about you, but this kinda implies she didn’t even do that. She just assumed how they felt about her.
@kurtsu1008
@kurtsu1008 3 жыл бұрын
Here is what really be said. "Your daughters LIKE you?" "I think they LOVE me."
@roarbertbearatheon8565
@roarbertbearatheon8565 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDragonCat99 It really doesn't matter how her kids feel about her she did what she thought was best for them, everything else is small potatoes
@TheDragonCat99
@TheDragonCat99 3 жыл бұрын
@@roarbertbearatheon8565 The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. It’s clear she did this to her kids out of the goodness of her heart, but if the kids still came out over-stressed and under-loved, her good intentions may as well have not existed.
@roarbertbearatheon8565
@roarbertbearatheon8565 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDragonCat99 I wouldn't describe hell as being competent and skilled enough at violin and piano to perform at a recital for adults while still being teenagers. I think you're missing the benefits their mother has given them, while overplaying the perceived downsides. The lady herself even mentioned how her daughter later recognized the event of being forced to practice as a positive thing. The mother says her daughters love her, we know the daughters overperform academically and have musical abilities. It's only in our minds that we imagine some over-stressed life with children that resent their mother. Let's let evidence be our guide when judging this mom's parenting style
@gam940
@gam940 4 жыл бұрын
" true self esteem has to be earned " gotta agree
@AugustasRimke
@AugustasRimke 2 жыл бұрын
How does it have to be earned? Everyone should have self esteem...
@gam940
@gam940 2 жыл бұрын
@@AugustasRimke if you hold your self in high esteem for doing nothing, I guess that's what I mean.
@sharpaycutie2
@sharpaycutie2 11 ай бұрын
no its not.
@spiritanimal7516
@spiritanimal7516 4 жыл бұрын
Id rather have strict parents rather than parents like mine that didnt care about my future.
@21area21
@21area21 3 жыл бұрын
Eh, there's a balance. You can still make something of yourself even if you parents don't care about you. You can get a job. You can get into coding that has a very low barrier of entry. You can learn about tons of stuff, and be exposed to so many industries and fields that strict parents don't let their kids experience. I'm not saying that parents that care aren't a good thing, but strictness isn't necessarily good, and I think you can do a lot of you put yourself to it. Don't get too discouraged. Also, we only play through life once so enjoy it. Don't sit there suffering just to try and get a high score when you'll miss out on the entire experience and get consumed with regret as your years go by.
@findingdori4267
@findingdori4267 4 жыл бұрын
This is very common and normal in Asian households. 😊 Nothing new.
@dionysiusramanandyka6681
@dionysiusramanandyka6681 3 жыл бұрын
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.....
@sourbunni1438
@sourbunni1438 3 жыл бұрын
Asian parents teach there kids values and how to be polite and respect others they don’t try to force control like this
@gursakhi1787
@gursakhi1787 3 жыл бұрын
@@sourbunni1438 unfortunately most do.
@BrianOblivionB
@BrianOblivionB 3 жыл бұрын
You doctor yet?
@gursakhi1787
@gursakhi1787 3 жыл бұрын
​@@BrianOblivionB not yet
@alexharrislove
@alexharrislove 5 жыл бұрын
I am half black, half Thai, and neither parent was there much of my life. My grandmother (dad's mom) was pretty close to being a tiger mom while in my life (a clinical psychology professor) and all of the successes I have achieved in my life, I give credit to her. I am on the verge of starting law school, not many people can say that and with parents who wish only the best with no guidance, children are more likely to shoot up schools than graduate from them.
@ProPopulo106
@ProPopulo106 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a strong advocate of discipline, but even for me, this seems too harsh.
@cyclonemt
@cyclonemt 5 жыл бұрын
You need a balance. Give kids useful discipline like house chores, a variety of mandatory volunteer experiences in the community, spiritual discipline, health discipline, career research discipline. Don’t just force them into a career. You can force useful hobbies and practices on them when they are children, but also allow them to be themselves and communicate with you openly (by being accepting even if you don’t understand everything they’re thinking) and support them in their predispositions. Everyone is made for something different. Not everyone has to excel at $100k+ careers. Some people just want to work and start families and be involved in non-profit projects for the community. We have to try to be flexible. Teach your kids discipline and the emotional skills to discover and recover.
@heuganian7252
@heuganian7252 3 жыл бұрын
yes i agree b0ss
@idanofek168
@idanofek168 2 жыл бұрын
Playing violin is not a 100k career
@gamingbraaa7698
@gamingbraaa7698 4 жыл бұрын
These parents be raising literal computers with no purpose Outstanding move
@shawntw1556
@shawntw1556 5 жыл бұрын
You dont need to be a strict parent to have kids that excel. I have played games most of my life, and done things to strengthen my mind, and thats why I excel at most things that I do. In fact, one of the only things I dont excel in is socializing. Thats only because i'm a very evil person, though. I'm a straight, white, conservative, male. No surprise that I cant make friends.
@khalidsuleman4124
@khalidsuleman4124 4 жыл бұрын
Forcing is when a child will do something when you're their, passion is when they'll do it when you're not
@bruninhamrso
@bruninhamrso 7 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe that depriving your children from being children will always result in top class citizens. They might be people who developed talents but might be also people who need to be told what to do. It is kind of like drugs. I know 2 guys like this. I repeat, it is hard to believe.
@crazycashlarry
@crazycashlarry 7 жыл бұрын
You don't have to believe it, look at the statistics. She is right!
@MrsRen
@MrsRen 5 жыл бұрын
@@crazycashlarry The stats don't show the consequences of failure
@21area21
@21area21 3 жыл бұрын
@@crazycashlarry more strictness, stronger family values, an academic focus, and more obedience than the average American leftist household are why Asians and immigrants do better. The key words there are the qualifiers. MORE relative to Americans who basically have none. Not ABSOLUTE STRICTNESS.
@petrmaly9087
@petrmaly9087 6 жыл бұрын
Parents, please do this, turn your kids into well educated submissive nervous wrecks, Than I only need to teach my kids to shout orders in dominant enough voice and he/she will be master of the entire population.
@rakashaagain
@rakashaagain 5 жыл бұрын
yea because the one we have now are AWESOME!
@utkarsh4386
@utkarsh4386 5 жыл бұрын
actually, the media only focus on the ones that shut down speakers on college campuses. Doesn't change the fact that we are seeing more innovation now than in the history of humanity
@rocketdock11
@rocketdock11 5 жыл бұрын
So accurate :D
@jamesclark976
@jamesclark976 4 жыл бұрын
Whos to think that those children would not become controlling themselves. They may have a desire for power that has so long been denied
@21area21
@21area21 3 жыл бұрын
@@rakashaagain AWESOME cattle. I'm sure Kim Jung Un would also love his "citizens" to be just like these highly productive and submissive kids that do as they are told and don't waste time on frivolous things. How great North Korea would be then!
@christinewatson1989
@christinewatson1989 3 жыл бұрын
This is AWFUL. Imagine if one of her kids had a learning disability or other disabling condition that hindered their ability at something. If your kids aren't HAPPY, that's not success.
@lloyd355
@lloyd355 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure my parents got it right. I was allowed to pretty much whatever i wanted, but i didnt... because my parents taught me what the right and safe thing to do was I felt free, but guided. Which i think is the right way to raise a kid
@ImTheDaveman
@ImTheDaveman 4 жыл бұрын
She avoided that last question about her girls saying I love you. The woman flat out deflected. To me, that suggests "no".
@breakmanradio2530
@breakmanradio2530 4 жыл бұрын
Hell, this is still better than how most millenials were raised: "you're perfect baby, even if you're covered in Cheetos dust and play video games 16 hours a day." Not optimal. But better than most.
@minhngo5237
@minhngo5237 3 жыл бұрын
Well... being called "garbage" is quite flattering compared to what my parents call me lmao
@florenceoztas6186
@florenceoztas6186 3 жыл бұрын
We as mothers can never take full credit for our children's successes ,we cannot thank enough the amazing people, super teachers inspirational coaches, generous sponsors. They also invest their valuable time and effort towards encouraging and inspiring our children to strive and achieve. Gratitude is heart felt.
@drewconway7135
@drewconway7135 6 жыл бұрын
"I think they love me." You mean you're not sure?! Jeebus. 😱
@jellal1023
@jellal1023 6 жыл бұрын
It was a joke.
@raspiankiado4658
@raspiankiado4658 5 жыл бұрын
Drew Conway They are forced to love her.
@calvinmcneil9824
@calvinmcneil9824 3 жыл бұрын
I think if she said she said "I know they love me" people would just say she's a narsasist
@VeryEmotionalNogginThoughts
@VeryEmotionalNogginThoughts 3 жыл бұрын
@@calvinmcneil9824 I think you get it.
@21area21
@21area21 3 жыл бұрын
@@calvinmcneil9824 But if she said "they love me", then it would be a little less concerning. Because she is implying that they don't express any love for her. Just that she "knows" it.
@patchesohoulihan2009
@patchesohoulihan2009 6 жыл бұрын
She would have pulled her hair out trying to raise me. I was a wild one. But now I live under a bridge so...
@raspiankiado4658
@raspiankiado4658 5 жыл бұрын
Matthew Gilliland Same with me. She could have tore every hair out of my head and I would have continued to do what I wanted.
@SomethingSomethingg
@SomethingSomethingg Жыл бұрын
The problem with these kinds of parents is that they're brainwashed into believing that there's only one way to be successful in life and that's through education and income. I've never been to college and I work as a janitor but because I'm not in debt I get to travel or do things instead of constantly working, working, working. At the end of the day nobody gives a damn how great someone did in school or what their job is. They care about who they are as a unique individual and what cool, good things they've done in their lives.
@ncg8224
@ncg8224 5 жыл бұрын
Kids need balance in life. Tiger parenting isn't bad because it taught me how to be a better person and how to respect others. However I was given two hours of play time on the computer once a day, that was truly a reward. Now that I'm older it kind of sucks because I wish I had it befor blinding myself.
@yoleeisbored
@yoleeisbored 4 жыл бұрын
tiger parenting is bad.. leads to high suicides among asian youth... i know cause my korean parents hit me and abused me so much.
@shazzadhasan3970
@shazzadhasan3970 Жыл бұрын
@@yoleeisbored your parents were not tiger parents, they were abusive . know the difference
@AnindyaSDhar
@AnindyaSDhar 5 жыл бұрын
This is real life Dark Souls. The Boss fight might take several hours but the end is complete harmony.
@bethhurst6231
@bethhurst6231 3 жыл бұрын
“... when you are there...and when you are not...” I agree. As soon as the manipulation is gone, only what they are passionate about I’ll remain.
@vranime3772
@vranime3772 3 жыл бұрын
More like several years
@21area21
@21area21 3 жыл бұрын
@@bethhurst6231 And a long list of regrets that with eat away at them for their whole lives.
@adrianabarnard6402
@adrianabarnard6402 Жыл бұрын
I was brought up with parents that I felt always let me do whatever I wanted they tried to teach me to have good judgement and while I have great self esteem, confidence, I’m not a over sensitive person, and have great values from my parents I always felt I needed to be pushed further to this day I struggle to push myself through stuff that has to get done just because I don’t like it and I really hate that about myself I’m always procrastinating because I need the stress that waiting till last minute gives me just to push myself to get things done that should’ve been done a month ago, it’s embarrassing. Now that I have a kid I knew I wanted to be more disciplined and push for success I just had no idea how that looked like I appreciate this book so much! While I will never embarrass my daughter by calling her garbage I would say something along the lines of “you can do better than that” and “that was terrible work”
@florenceoztas6186
@florenceoztas6186 3 жыл бұрын
Ngerian parenting stuff . I totally agree her . I did not appreciate it when mine "pushed" me but I understand it as "encouragement " now ! So I give mine, extra tutoring ,timed home exam practice ! I have invested time networked and researched for sponsorship support to help them. Hours of practice helped them achieve highly in sports and education. Winning scholarship, top grades ,intobtop schools , signing for elite sports teams is praiseworthy on the one hand but she is so right about instilling that touch of insecurity. Never let them rest on their laurels - they have to work harder. So I also tell them - you're not done, work harder - there's always someone better than you !
@Jcom3030
@Jcom3030 Жыл бұрын
A good parent lets their children, explore the world and pursue their own passions without any judgment from the parent, as long as they’re safe, of course
@projectjt3149
@projectjt3149 6 жыл бұрын
6:24 Honestly, out of all things about learning, that "click in the head" moment is EASILY the most powerful yet the most mysterious. Especially considering that it can happen under tiger parenting and free range parenting.
@21area21
@21area21 3 жыл бұрын
Children can learn. Shocking. Sarcasm aside, I think both types of parents are degenerates. I won't be able to prove them wrong yet, but give me a few years and I will.
@sld1776
@sld1776 5 жыл бұрын
P.S. to this story. Mother and Father are law professors at Yale. Older daughter is a high-achieving law graduate. Younger daughter is about to become a lawyer too.
@radthadd
@radthadd Жыл бұрын
No husband. Just cats
@joeyk107
@joeyk107 3 жыл бұрын
The type of person who dies alone in a nursing home.
@a-10wartaboo77
@a-10wartaboo77 3 жыл бұрын
The word part is that she’s an American. She’s not an immigrant who just knows work hard and escape this life.
@joeyk107
@joeyk107 3 жыл бұрын
@@a-10wartaboo77 yeah, it's the boomer mentality of "things were hard back in my day, so everyone else's life has to suck"
@jeffp7776
@jeffp7776 3 жыл бұрын
@@joeyk107 You tards forget with out the boomers YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN BORN.
@joeyk107
@joeyk107 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffp7776 right, and if it weren't for the nazis the boomers wouldn't have been born.
@RevAlSharptonz
@RevAlSharptonz 3 жыл бұрын
I think I would choose cancer over having her as my mother.
@killermogle
@killermogle 5 жыл бұрын
Her kids definitely seem like they don't hate themselves, their mom and about everyone else. Yes, because grades and violin are way more important than social skills. Who needs to know how to talk to others to become a lawyer? Obviously nobody.
@roarbertbearatheon8565
@roarbertbearatheon8565 3 жыл бұрын
"social skills" gimme a break
@nissl7742
@nissl7742 3 жыл бұрын
@@roarbertbearatheon8565 I do think social skill is something that has to be developed, im 17 now, i always prefered playing by myself and talking with the same prople every day over meeting new people, partying etc.. Thats probably why im so socially awkward today, maybe if my mom didnt force me to go meet other kids it would be way worse...
@evanbailey6860
@evanbailey6860 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really easy way to get your kids to resent you for not giving them a childhood.
@KP-kg2ky
@KP-kg2ky 2 жыл бұрын
Yet somehow these kids don't.
@Ghost-dy9sf
@Ghost-dy9sf 2 жыл бұрын
@@KP-kg2ky Just like some abuse victims. Probably not best to listen to children.
@abirkalai5688
@abirkalai5688 Жыл бұрын
In my culture, "not having a childhood" is something irrelevant! We don't have the luxury of thinking about such things. Once we're adults and faced with real adversity, we don't look back on why we missed playing at the park years ago.
@jonutsthedanklordpayton
@jonutsthedanklordpayton 11 ай бұрын
​@K P yet many kids do and don't say the don't because I know many
@Psyhius
@Psyhius 4 жыл бұрын
I'd imsgine that the kids will be so happy to leave her
@tichtran664
@tichtran664 9 ай бұрын
Remember the KOCH patriarch was a tiger dad.
@cmndrkool321
@cmndrkool321 3 жыл бұрын
That tiger mom is going to have her kids grow up and resent her, and they will definitely put her in the shittiest retirement home they can find. I grew up with Bible-thumping parents who wouldn’t let me do anything, and now I’m 28 years old, and moved to the next county over to avoid them at all costs.
@brucemace5404
@brucemace5404 3 жыл бұрын
It’s called raising a child the old fashion way. It isn’t going to work for ever child but it’ works for most children. There is nothing wrong with it. She is right about 95% of it My brother and sister in-law raise their children this way. They are now outstanding young adults and very successful in everything they do and try. I watch them growing up. I admit I was critical of the way they were raising their children how wrong I was
@Stackstackblahblah
@Stackstackblahblah 4 жыл бұрын
She’s still insane and there’s a reason these kids don’t do anything after college
@sourbunni1438
@sourbunni1438 3 жыл бұрын
@D no there’s a difference Asian parents teach there kids moral values how to respect others and be polite but don’t erase social boundaries to society
@TubeFuzzyCheese
@TubeFuzzyCheese 5 жыл бұрын
the only two positive points was the reading a book for a hour is good in early development, and that moment the mom forced her daughter to stick with piano even though she wanted to give and later that same day the daughter was able to play both hands at once. That being said she is too stick and that may cause social problems later in the kids life. pros and cons.
@jessicafoster1196
@jessicafoster1196 4 жыл бұрын
They define "success" as wealth and status. It's all about making the family look good. They don't care what their children want. Narcissism at it's finest.
@saynotohookups
@saynotohookups 3 жыл бұрын
@D A child can still grow up to have a good future without the parents being too strict.
@SuedeStonn
@SuedeStonn 7 жыл бұрын
This is a tough subject, I know for myself it might not have worked, and I know plenty of other people who wouldn't benefit from it. We humans have this innate thing called 'rebelliousness', lol, and being forced to do something that just isn't fun or even interesting would leave a bad taste in our mouths, make us resentful. One good thing about a 'Tiger Mom' or dad would be that their children would know RESPECT. I've seen way too many kids running roughshod over their parents and generally being little shits... that's when you really need a 'Tiger Mom'. ;}
@UnchainedEruption
@UnchainedEruption 7 жыл бұрын
SuedeStonn You make good points both ways. There are definitely people in the world whom you can clearly tell were never taught to respect others. Nobody likes those kinds of individuals. But at the same time, forcing your views on children isn't a good idea either. Especially if they're teenagers.
@raspiankiado4658
@raspiankiado4658 5 жыл бұрын
SuedeStonn Yes this comment is the most correct I've seen yet.
@AsukaLangleyS02
@AsukaLangleyS02 5 жыл бұрын
It isnt really respect when theyre forced to do it, that's not respect... That's basically turning them into a machine giving them commands and having them give you the things you asked for.
@ChristianMillionaire
@ChristianMillionaire 8 ай бұрын
Maybe saying "You're being garbage" rather than "You are garbage" sends the "You're better than that." - james
@judithwerner5301
@judithwerner5301 7 ай бұрын
To mean she's mean. She wants them to succeed for her own glory.
@greghunt7724
@greghunt7724 5 жыл бұрын
I don't have children but I am in Human Resources. From what I see she's doing is teaching them how to excel at something, but the one thing that America has and has always had is the ability to think outside of the box. Our creativity is unmatched. Just look at Hollywood. This Tiger Mom is raising kids to be good worker bees, but will they have the ability to actually think outside of the box? So, this means that someone will come up with a concept; however, it will be her worker bee children who actually make the concept some type of reality.
@JJ-ri8es
@JJ-ri8es 3 жыл бұрын
I like to hear what the children have to say about their upbringing.
@rja2208
@rja2208 5 жыл бұрын
Funny that the strict mom is one of the few moms that hasn't descended to into being a slob
@caloricfoil98
@caloricfoil98 3 жыл бұрын
She probably shouldn't be surprised when her kids never call
@vishnupriyabakthisaran8518
@vishnupriyabakthisaran8518 3 жыл бұрын
I could totally relate to her mindset. My mom was a lioness not a tiger mom. She let me have freedom as long as I followed the rules, studied and got good grades, the expectation being Bs and As. For extracurriculars, she let me choose the activity, in the end expected me to work hard to be good at it. Most of the time, she was a pretty chill mom, we had our arguments, yet she never gave up on me.
@bhopirl4552
@bhopirl4552 5 жыл бұрын
“you can do anything you want in your life” but you restrict them from certain things you dont want them to do...
@Auxillia
@Auxillia 2 жыл бұрын
My mom called my school performance as trash, even though I showed her my 4.0 gpa every report card. Fast forward to modern day, I make 6 figures but the relationship with my mom is broken and we hate each other.
@casusbelli9225
@casusbelli9225 2 жыл бұрын
Never give that bitch a penny, king. She doesn't deserve even a single inch of your success.
@audreyandremington5265
@audreyandremington5265 4 жыл бұрын
This is actually called a Soccer Mom in America...
@northstarstatepolitics1652
@northstarstatepolitics1652 10 ай бұрын
I'd say it's more like helicopter parenting.
@truthandfreedom885
@truthandfreedom885 5 жыл бұрын
One thing , her kids won't still be living at home when they're 25-35
@christinewatson1989
@christinewatson1989 3 жыл бұрын
They'll dip out ASAP and she'll probably never know her grandkids.
@johnnymnemonic6986
@johnnymnemonic6986 4 жыл бұрын
While i do support what she did, i believe in delay of gratification, hard work, not spoiling & building moral & values. I do know that sometimes the way she raised her kids, can cause the kid to become extremely rebellious whenever they turn 18 and start becoming independent and completely fall apart, I've seen it happen personally with extremely strict parents, more than a few times. So if your going to follow her lead and be this way with your children, don't do it blindly and really pay attention & do it smart, don't expect everything to go perfectly, because sometimes the kid ends up OD'ing or become extremely promiscuous or just kill themselves, I've seen all these things happen
@BobbyT.
@BobbyT. 4 жыл бұрын
J Jill 8 month old comment but totally agree, some of the most strict parents end up having the most rebellious kids. I know several people who have really fallen off in their college years now that they are on their own and they had pretty strict parents. Not all the people with strict parents always turn out bad, but too many do. I think there is a degree to which she is right about be somewhat strict but this is just over the top insanity and perfectionism. I know people who had parents who could care less with what they did and they turned out bad too, so that’s why I think there is a balance that needs to be found.
@retrozip
@retrozip 3 жыл бұрын
Notice how there's no father in the video, I wonder why?
@youngillinoisan4270
@youngillinoisan4270 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed in my high school the kids with the strictest parents tended be the most fuck up, and usually do a lot of drugs and are addicted to nicotine.
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR 13 күн бұрын
This is a true mother. Unfortunately too many uninvolved parents that want the children to have no structure or discipline critique mothers like this but if you listen to her children speak you will see right away how effective she is.
@hudbudtaylor9580
@hudbudtaylor9580 4 жыл бұрын
It’s great that parents have expectations of the kids! Kids need guidance . I grew up and there were no expectations! Result well just say I lost 2 brothers one to suicide and one two a dui! I look back at my BFF and it wasn’t a choice u r going to college. My friend is very successful! I think parents should have a individual bar for there kids!
@BinanceUSD
@BinanceUSD 7 жыл бұрын
You got an OK violinist and pianist no software entrepreneur. No rebel just two conforming followers. They would be great in Harvard!
@raspiankiado4658
@raspiankiado4658 5 жыл бұрын
Crypto Harj Yep and in their adulthood there are a lot of big businesses that would accept them as secretaries.
@sld1776
@sld1776 5 жыл бұрын
She got two lawyers.
@sld1776
@sld1776 5 жыл бұрын
@Ben Santoyo The older one was about to become a clerk for Brett Kavanaugh when the nomination for the supreme court came through. I hear there may have been some small controversy about that.
@BlckCloud73
@BlckCloud73 5 жыл бұрын
....at 11 and 14. Your kids will be working for them someday.
@mroie
@mroie 5 жыл бұрын
@Ben Santoyo not really because they can't think for themself
@davidvavra9113
@davidvavra9113 5 жыл бұрын
A character in a Kurt Vonnegut novel commented on a little girl who was forced to become an Olympic swimmer. His comment, what kind of father turns his little girl into an outboard motor?
@mroie
@mroie 5 жыл бұрын
you have to have balance in life all work and no play will just make your kids out cast. all book knowledge but no common sense at all to survive the real world. the sad part is i know kids and adult that wear raise like this and most them look helpless when there in large groups that because they don't know how to socialize. To be bunt they become kind useless outside their little bottle. even though i am disable can't write or spell without the aid of a machine my parent try to teach me balance part book knowledge and part real life.
@blake102989
@blake102989 4 жыл бұрын
Highly successful people are outcast and dont have friends
@21area21
@21area21 3 жыл бұрын
@@blake102989 That's mostly due to being introverted and passionate about a certain field rather than just raised to be obedient drones.
@casusbelli9225
@casusbelli9225 2 жыл бұрын
@@blake102989 Not as successful, most of the time. Business requires soft skills.
@yoleeisbored
@yoleeisbored Жыл бұрын
​@@blake102989 no you need social skills to build connections and network... you need to let kids make friends or else everyone and society will exclude them
@caitline4210
@caitline4210 5 жыл бұрын
My mum made me practice every day, we even took the violin on holidays. I got a music scholarship to an elite private girl's school, then when I was 17, I started my own violin teaching business from home making $50 an hour while my friends were serving coffee on minimum wage.
@21area21
@21area21 3 жыл бұрын
That doesn't mean strict parenting is the only way to succeed. Imagine if you were Zuckerberg. He was a Billionaire by 23. Imagine if instead of learning what he wanted to learn and following his passions, he was raised to do what his parents deemed to be valuable and coding wasn't on that list. There's a ton of roads to success. As a civilization we have to have people pursuing different interests so we can get innovations and products from all types of industries.
@kambam172
@kambam172 3 жыл бұрын
My parents are Bangladeshi immigrants and I am the youngest out of three and my sisters as told by me were always pushed harder to “set an example for me” my mom was extremely strict and some times had to bring out corporal punishment on them however, as I got older I admired my sisters they were top 30 in high school, part of NHS, played multiple instruments and even volunteered at local hospitals. If it wasn’t for my parent to actively push them then god knows who I would look up to as now I am graduating high school and both my older sisters will graduate college one has an internship lined up in her career field, the other is planning on going to grad school.... and me? Well I am 4th in my class, take college level courses, scored above the 90th percentile on the SAT and I recently got accepted to really good college for computer science. I know many people here will consider this bragging but I am not for us especially from and south Asian immigrant background education and hard work is expected for many of us and hence that is why my parents my sisters and myself so we can be a set example for generations to come. Do I agree that you must super strict and constructive in parenting? Of course not however, discipline and a sense of determination can be instilled just like my parents did for me and my sisters. Last thing I would like to say is that I feel as if so parents who push their kids and are “helicopter” or “tiger” parents are seemed to only be pushed by immigrants, minority and the working class but why can’t you be this so called “tiger” mom/dad for a kid to pursue a trade? Or a small business? It seems to me from this video the mom wanted to push her kids to excel at very prestigious and white collar attributes(nothing wrong with it) however would this admiration for her parenting skills and tactics be felt the same for a parent that pushed there child to pursue a trade or starting a small business? How about instead of going to college why not work hard at a job and build your own small business? Just curious because I feel as if so the latter point I mentioned is a good majority of parents in the US who want to push their kids butndont believe that learning the piano or getting amazing grades will automatically make you successful Because at the end of the day my next door neighbor own a landscaping company and does very well and he hasn’t step foot in a college classroom. Thank you for listening and criticism is always accepted please not hate !!😄
@tommymacjock3159
@tommymacjock3159 6 жыл бұрын
Grades and money do not equal happiness. Happiness is inner success when it is not based off of indulgences but self responsibility and completion. This woman is stupid. All your doing is pushing your kids away from you, as well as themselves.
@CaptainBones222
@CaptainBones222 4 жыл бұрын
@Ben Santoyo Better does not equal happiness
@Ereh_589
@Ereh_589 3 жыл бұрын
Tiger parenting needs to be a criminal offence around the globe, no matter what.
@jdh023
@jdh023 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up as a southerner kid...GREAT parents free as a bird being a boy (until the porch light came on and better be home) in the 70/80 era. Enlisted in the Air Force and blah blah...ended up working in an office with a woman I thought was crazy...didn't know labels. She wouldn't allow her son to call her Mom but by first name. I couldn't comprehend that then or now 30yrs later and I still despise (momma taught me not to hate) that woman and can't understand. I think of her son and wonder how he turned out...and it breaks my heart. That poor kid.
@21area21
@21area21 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of crazies out there man. I hate both the complete lack of parenting and soyboys just as much as the dictator parents.
@Weeping-Angel
@Weeping-Angel 2 жыл бұрын
What the heck. I always thought that’s what white Americans do from all the movies I’ve watched. I would feel extremely uncomfortable or even go crazy if I had to call my mom or any of my family members by their name. That woman’s crazy.
@NM-qo6cd
@NM-qo6cd 3 жыл бұрын
So this is the real life mom from “Fresh off the Boat” 😐
@Zalphen
@Zalphen 4 жыл бұрын
Is that roll only for mom or can dad join 2? and if so, should both parents be tigers or is one enough?
@ictrlaltdeleteu
@ictrlaltdeleteu 4 жыл бұрын
Do your kids love you? I THINK they love me!
@jenniferparr5238
@jenniferparr5238 3 жыл бұрын
Great mom! All children are capable of so much. We need more real parents. All the power to moms with vision!!!
@inmate0054
@inmate0054 3 ай бұрын
She gave her kids the ability to become amazing at whatever they decide to do
@drive5050
@drive5050 4 жыл бұрын
This woman and others like her are really screwing things up.
@jonutsthedanklordpayton
@jonutsthedanklordpayton 2 жыл бұрын
Tiger mom is what I like to call a force feeder. In fear of her children not being successful she makes life suck for them. Like really no sleep overs, no complaining!? As someone who knows kids like that most just grow resentful.
@newvoice1935
@newvoice1935 5 жыл бұрын
Not all kids are the same, the daughter with a tiger mom that killed her mom and dad and locked her sisters in a room
@jeffreybundy4095
@jeffreybundy4095 3 жыл бұрын
I feel so sorry for your children. Good luck to them. You however deserve whatever you get. My god. 😲😲😲😲😲
@MrSwac31
@MrSwac31 3 жыл бұрын
Tiger mom to such an extreme is just the recipe of the "Golden Child" from narcissistic parents. "Do whatever" parenting produce covert-narcissistic traits (I want to be recognized but people disagree so pitty me) Tiger mom produces overt-narcissistic traits (I'm good so submit, if you don't I'm in danger) By completely disregarding her child's' desires and wants she's teaching them that there is a form/image that has inherent value, that it isn't them, and that if they fail to present themselves as such they're "Garbage".
@ibarrabaganilegarda2844
@ibarrabaganilegarda2844 3 жыл бұрын
Just a normal asian parenting. And it’s really great!
@jaelbucher4438
@jaelbucher4438 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@dreamdream7456
@dreamdream7456 4 ай бұрын
it giving "why don't my kids talk to me"
@Fidi987
@Fidi987 3 жыл бұрын
Her kids never had the chance to find out what they would be so passionate about that they would practice it for hours voluntarily. She denied them that experience. If you let them, often children will find an activity that they will pursue with passion. She even stated several times in her book how passionate the violin playing daughter would be after lessons or discussions with certain teachers, and STILL she did not pick up their methods, but resorted to yelling, demeaning, threatening.
@21area21
@21area21 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly man. There are millions of different inventions and businesses that were started because people had different passions. Maybe some of them were stupid but later turned into something viable. Years of learning piano will not lead to discoveries like electric longboards. A pretty popular KZfaqr, Louis Rossman, started off repairing and hacking gaming consoles for his friends. He slowly grew out his hobby into a computer repair business that is now one of the best in the US and a KZfaq channel with over a million subs. Success can come from so many different avenues, and the diversity of passions and pursuing of different things is what enriches the world and allows us to have all the amazing things we do. Also, if everyone was an engineer/scientist/docotor, there wouldn't be any tradesmen or machinists to realize the designs and make the world spin.
@austinhannemann2615
@austinhannemann2615 5 жыл бұрын
Love it
@sammiegirl883
@sammiegirl883 6 ай бұрын
My parents didn't care and said it was my life and I could do what I wanted. I wish they would have pushed me. A kid doesn't know what's good for themselves and they'll be thankful later in life for the knowledge, skills and success they've gained by having a dedicated parent.
@tobyhorn9641
@tobyhorn9641 2 жыл бұрын
School should stay at school and home should stay at home
@hellohuman9446
@hellohuman9446 3 жыл бұрын
NO SLEEPOVERS!!!! NO SCHOOL PLAY!!! What good does that do?
@JohnLee-ou7ql
@JohnLee-ou7ql 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Asian and I had the same treatment and dearly love my mom and thank her for raising me that way
@edisoncarteresq9111
@edisoncarteresq9111 5 жыл бұрын
I know exactly what the Tiger Mom is saying. I didn't know it had a name, but my children were raised with the same guidance, I told them "you're better than everyone else, but is that the best you can do?" They heard me and, most importantly, they saw it in action when I did projects perfectly but not upto my own satisfaction. Self glorification, and self criticism all bundled into a principle of standards. "Son! That really is terrific, but...", "daughter you reall did a great job, it's beautiful, but..."
@21area21
@21area21 3 жыл бұрын
There's definitely a lot of degeneracy and lack of morals/authority/responsibility in modern American kids. It's definitely good to push your kids too to get them to be the best they can be. But to completely rule over them and take away any freedom they might have is just as irresponsible in the opposite direction. (not accusing you of being too harsh like the bi*** in the video)
@brabra2725
@brabra2725 Жыл бұрын
This woman feels like the prototypical Leninist mom, crushing dissent and central planning her children's life.
@kyleongesii2601
@kyleongesii2601 5 жыл бұрын
All of you guys who thinks this mom is mean you all have not experience a thing like this so you dont know, we pacific islanders were raised like this. We cant sleep pass 0600 and we do chores all day long we werent allowed to do alot of things and we did not have tv or internet. Im very grateful we lived a life this way we can survive on our own and do alot things ourself.most of you who thinks this woman is bad just wait till your gone and see if your kids can survive on their own
@CandynDaddy4ever
@CandynDaddy4ever Жыл бұрын
I LOVE HER❤
@davideyaliscool
@davideyaliscool 4 жыл бұрын
That's literally my mom minus that weird school play thing
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