If Jean is no longer on the Xmen, I hope she returns to the quiet council.

I love Manifold. The guy is basically a walking space stone. But he can also do fun things like not need air in space because space legit won't hurt him.

This is getting more and more complicated. I miss the days the XMen go around fighting bad guys.

Dazzler and jubilee have been on the X-Men. But I do like how things for the hellfire gala and fall of X are being set up in each X book.

Random thought: I wish they'd publish a comic, hell, maybe even a miniseries, where Thor and Tony Stark have a contest between themselves to see who can throw the biggest party. Stark throwing the biggest party that money and his technology can allow (just let your mind wonder on what his tech COULD make possible for a party!), and Thor starts calling beings from all across the Nine Realms, and/or the party starts teleporting through the Nine Realms (while party goers are drunk and high, and possibly hallucinating). But then people start crashing the party, including villains and the occasional cosmic entity, which makes things much more fun...

I think Destiny is speaking in general terms for the "White and Black" Kings in reference to Emma and Shaw, after the death of Kate. The bolt referring to possibly Storm coming down to help the mutants, or Fei Long could b plotting something from his station. I think the "fool that speaks the truth" is probably Sinister and the events that will lead to his final demise of telling the mutants the truth about the other suits.

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I have to say, I don't like the split between Jean and Scott. I definitely see Scott's side of things, however. I just hope they get back together in the near future.

Moira has Destiny's diaries. All of em. There's a comic that shows her reading them. Add to that multiple timelines of insight...She could be playing a long game, like Sinister, with her own cheat sheet.

Random question, but where do you get the background music for your videos? I love to listen to instrumentals when i do work 😅

I just realized in hindsight destiny was talking about the X-Men team. Firestar is the betrayer she sees, but Destiny wants it to happen because firestar is the key to bringing down orchis from he inside.

With that preview map released a week ago (?) showing the xmen scattered all about, I think that was caused by manifold, and he might have been hurt or killed in the process of teleporting everyone away, hence the random scattering of characters. Fall of X should be interesting.

We have to also come to the conclusion that Manifold has the best style in the xmen as well... there's just something about him that's both badass and totally sexy...

Once upon a time in the 80s, Magneto was the White King of the Hellfire Club. Emma, of course, was the White Queen. Shaw was the Black King, and Seline was the Black Queen respectfully

Black King may be referring to Sébastien Shaw but the "White King" of Hellfire Co. Was Storm and Magneto at one point. So the King doesn't have to be a man. Emma could be the White King or Kate dies and comes back and takes White King mantle

I wonder which guests in the hellfire gala will be revealed to be mutants. Would be interesting if somebody, nobody nobody was expecting, was revealed as a mutant like doctor doom or the black widow.

way back in the day storm shared the role of white king with magneto. and she can most certainly be related to a "jovian bolt from the heavens." if somebody say, hurts kate pryde, who is for all intents and purposes her adopted daughter, she could get all kinds of mad... that could be cool.

Kings clashing in white is Tony vs Feilong

Ilyanna would be the most powerful teleporter as she can travel through time and space. I'd bring Lila Cheney up to second place as she is not limited in using her power as Manifold does. Last but not least there is Gateway. He ranks right up there just above his kinfolk (Manifold) .

Shot in the dark? Maybe the fool in Destiny's prophecy is Cable? Young Cable did pull the Fool in X of Swords.

Me Looking at Krakoa before they get attack by everything "D*mn.... What did they do to make them Ni*ggas so Mad"

And make it look easy!

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I kinda get the feeling the Kings in White and Black fighting are the various Sinisters fighting amongst themselves with the Red Queen dying probably a reference to Mother Righteous. Just my guess though.

We now know the "traitor" is Firestar. The kings in white(Wilson Fisk) and black(Sebastian Shaw) will square up against each other.

I scanned the issue but hadn't given much review of it. Your video was incredibly good. Lots of details that I hadn't given much thought about. The statement about the White King and Tony Stark was interesting. Given that Stark is financially broke and even if Krakoa falls, does that mean all the inherent wealth of Emma and Krakoa disappears? Wouldn't that incredible wealth of Krakoa and Hellfire Club be adequate to counter Feilong's takeover of Stark? It would explain how Emma & Tony might address Feilong, Orchis. Scott & Jean. If Scott falls & dies, he'd be off the X-Men team for a while. David/Ruth & his Alter, would Scott's metaphysical presence go there if he dies? Would Jean's departure and Fall, lead to path for them outside of X-Men. Manifold/Destiny/Rogue's are also interesting thoughts. Saving Manifold could be a way of saving Krakoa away from humanity to reaches beyond Orchis. Can Orchis reach where Manifold went to get their new metal? It might be even beyond Nimrod/Omega Sentinel ability to reach or even Orbis Stellara, otherwise, would they have adequate supplies of the metal? There is so much going on and I'm wondering how up to par does Orchis and their allies are even aware of Gensis's return and impact to what their world will be like without the X-men? As for Kitty, I hoping for her return not as the Red Queen of the Hellfire Club but Kitty the untouchable, foe of Orchis & Sebastian Shaw. I wasn't looking forward for the fall of Krakoa, but your thoughts are making me look forward to the new chapter.

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The X-Men always needs to be made up of a team of characters that we actually want to see. Not a bunch of lesser characters. Those characters need to be on some of the other lesser teams so they can grow and be tested elsewhere and not fail in the main books and hurting it's sales. Cyclops should always be team leader on the actual X-Man team. There has been no better or more effective leader outside of Cyclops. Not even Storm. Cyclops is a mainstay and he gives the X books an authentic feel. Like Cap on the Avengers... without him they just kinda suck.

Manifold teleports nimrod to the sun game over

I liked good Moira better. I liked good Beast better. What I really want is the many loose ends and disparate plot threads to get somewhere, hopefully ending with Manifold leaving with Krakoa as both are too OP and OP has become a serious problem in current stories. I really want them to pull things back to basics, the mutant population and power superiority have made them unsympathetic characters, only slightly better than their enemies. It's a matter of preference. The problem with readers voting in a character is that not all characters are suited to all writers. I could have done a lot with Firestar, especially focusing on her human friendships and their opinions on current mutants, but I don't think these writers have that depth. They want flash-bang or someone that will fit their plans, not a wrench thrown in their agenda like Firestar was unfortunately. I keep attending to my mutants that I've been following since 1973. This is my least favorite period in those 49 years. In the new X vote I would favor Dazzler in order to give her more pertinence and depth, but I don't want these writers touching anymore of the characters I once knew as likable. They're better of with Juggie who they can easily shoe-horn into their story plans. If they even have a plan. I can't really swear to that from this point.

Storm and Magneto used to jointly hold the title of White King when the X-Men and Inner Circle formed an alliance brokered by Sage in the 80s. I wonder if Storm still holds that rank solely....especially with Magneto being dead. In regards to Kate, I assume the Red Queen "death" is figurative since she's reclaiming her ninja identity going forward as "ShadowKat" (new spelling).

Cyclops’s right though the brood need to go? There a threat to all life in the galaxy. Or somehow contain so their not killing folks to breed.

Didn’t the brood brutally murder rogue? To the extent that if her memories of that trauma was gained. She’s be traumatized all over again. She got resurrected without those memories. Since she had been to far away for her present memories to get back up.

Real life comparison between brood and serial killers being offered reformation does this comparison make sense?

The Brood has some intelligence. They were a part of the galactic council during Hickmans' "Infinity"!!!

When it comes to the hellfire club people always forget about the Braddock family... I think Jamie Braddock would be perfect

Cyclops needs to stay. Plus make his powers stronger

A traitor on the X men?!? When have there not been one?? Gambit, morph, Xavier, qutien....however you spell his name Emma, Shaw so who is it this time??

Dr. Stasis is attempting to kill Manifold, so this is the contengiency plan I would do to defeat Mister Sinister and co, Orchis and all those trying to kill off the mutants. I would have Rogue on standby so when the time is right, have her absorb just some of Manifold in case the villians succeed in capturing him! Just when all the Anti-mutant forces began to think they're winning, BOOM, Rogue again saves the day! It is etched in premonition that the forces of evil will be conquered by a unexpected savior! Nobody is expecting Rogue to save the day, but that's what makes Marvel unique among all other comic brands. In Marvel, you don't have to be a Galactus kind of character to save the day. anyone at any given moment can step up to plate and bring home the big W but who will betray the X-MEN? Remember Gambit has volentarinly worked with Mr. Sinister before and owes a debt to him, wouldn't put it past Gambit to turn heel plus keep in mind that he still hasn't earned his way with the X-MEN and he is still hiding something!

A cyclops fan… explains everything lol

It could either be the hellfire club imploding (again) starting with Kate dying. or the sinisters betraying each other after mother righteous dies. I pegged Captain Krakoa for that one too. Could it also be Cable? Remember back in X of Swords, kid Cable got "The Fool" card

Why doesn’t manifold teleport orchis into a black hole.

I wouldn't mind if Cyclopes & Jean left, but I feel like Gambit & Rogue are a packaged deal & a series suffers if they're separated. Part of me want the old team from the 90s cartoon back together, but that's a different universe & Hank has changed too much. Wouldn't mind having an X-men lineup with Laura & Kwanon. The Brood vs The Borg.

Why is Juggernaut there? If memory serves me right, isn’t he not a mutant he’s a magic based character?

How do u vote tho? I tried, i couldn't. I want Dazzler on the team😢

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Let rachel grey and young cable take over the roles jean and cyclops have in the x-men... I have not seen rachel in action for a loooooooooooooooooooong time... Bring back blue pheonix

Does this always have to be the Xmen's lot in life... they can't just be up. Why do they always have to be on the end of an ass whipping. When you know the historical things they are based off of. Magento being Malcom X and Xavier being Martin Luther King. It makes it that much more depressing. It's like saying African Americans can never have a happy ending. I really thought the Krakoa Era was going to be a change in the X Books but it's back to bigotry as usual.

They really could have had gotten to the same point with a "Captain Krakoa and Jean Grey" series but NOooooo...

This issue felt like we got dropped in the middle of stuff that's already been going on. Just felt real misplaced and not directly connecting to the most recent X-Men run

Someone tell me the benefit of a stark sentinel????

isnt the fool is kid cable? since he was pick by a card as a fool

I think Cyclops and Jean should join caps upcoming Unity Squad

So, Does Moira still have destiny's diaries?

What if the Red queen is Emma Frost?

I voted for Frenzy

I want to see apocalypse join the xmen which will be weird lol. Also I want to see cyclops in arrako

I’m so confused, but yet intrigued, Lol. Can’t wait for the fall of X

Since Synch gave his blood drop to the High Evolutionary, could he eventually be controlled by him to become the traitor of the team? Also, The Cuckoos were appointed by Emma as the new White Queen at the last issue of Duggan’s Marauders run.

Is Hydra Cap still in lock up ? A false Captain being the false Captain??

maybe this is too hard for u, but when u talk about something , can u talk which issue it is for example, when u spoke of kid cable, or old cable i duno what issue

What if it's Chamber who achieves dominion because that thing in his face blows up and gets outta control 😅

I missed Kid Cable & still miss Kid Omega. If we can have 2 Laura Kinneys, why can't we have 2 Cables?

Is Manifold actually Omega level?

maybe Manifold can also teleport the dominion away from our galaxy

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Mystique and her girlfriend are traders

Can’t blame gambit this time

fire star and ice man.........the ole one to punch........can't hate that loved it.... snych needs to be on all the teams... and shiddd thats the juggarnaut ....he the bad... the badess mfer on the whurrlll

What if Emma get the same power she had in the sinister timeline?

Maybe destiny isn't literally referring to x men. She could refer to Peter Rasputin. BTW solicitations have indicated that tony stark will become a member of the hellfire club via his marriage to Emma frost.

Fun theory. What if this development of Jean getting closer to James (Logan) turns into the birth of Rachel Grey.

Orchis better not ruin the hellfire gala-

I think I voted for ForgetMeNot…

Juggernaut isnt a mutant lol He gets his power fron the *Crimson Gem of Citerak* 🤔🧐

If there is a traitor on the current X-men team im leaning towards either Talon or Forge

Isn't Wison Fisk on Krakoa.

Moira is a problem this winch know everything about everyone she has to go and why young cable he should’ve thought this plan out better

Lol terminally

Manifold do has a lot of potential when knull took over kid cable body Manifold went toe to toe with him and won I think the two sinister clones will declare war among each other Mother righteous might die The x traitor between fire star and old Laura talon.

I just think Scot better off just steying to himself dose not mean he can't listin to her or others but thing is if she is unhappy with him already likes logon more hes just being a simp by going with her hes basically tossing away his life for her wants and she can't promise him a good future personally i think they should go two separate ways they would both be Happer if they truly care they will come back Together

I think once your an X-men. U should always be considered x-man .. unless your a traitor for real

Why not just go back in time to when moria is Born. Get ride of the kid! And pay the first Nathan Essex , a visit as a child! Get these evil traitors before adulthood!

They all traitor's 😅The End!!

Moira was correct at the beginning of HoX/PoX: Destiny should've stayed dead. Since she has been alive, Krakoa has known no peace. Only self-serving schemes.

Cmon blerd destiny thinks gambit is the fool duh

morality wise are brood could be worse than Nazis? are some beyond redemption? seems hypocritical to give Apocalypse the OK and not the brood. I have no answers just observations and questions.

Feel like Marvel is trying to shift Cyclopse into a Homelander of sorts or a magneto adjacent

The fool is colossus revealing the truth of sinister timeline

Ibjust wish this whole krakoa, hellfire gala, and living together would be retconned. I want the team to be just 5 or 6 members fighting the bad guys again. The writers need to go back to what made the xmen a good book

i’m sorry but cyclops and jean are the face of xmen

Jean the mutant drama queen!

It better not turn out to be Scott Summers!….. if so it’s going to be incredibly stupid!!…. I don’t care how they explain it.

I actually hate the mutants. I mean they're pretty trash as a whole but even as individuals they're garbage people

I quit reading X-men after Hickman left. I already felt like there were too many titles as it was but Jesus Christ are there too many titles and many series to read to just keep up with the X-men.

I'm so not looking forward to the Fall of X. It might be a good time for me to jump off the books.

Isn't Wison Fisk on Krakoa.