you simply don't have the energy to explore other rooms. everything feels hollow... parties, people, things. especially when you've been there and done that. meaning is a tough one.

Lex has the privilege of being young, I was the same when I was his age, I’ve been living in chronic pain for over 25 years and there are other things in my life that have changed my outlook, getting older is one, I suffer from crippling bouts of depression now and I wish I could be the person I was at Lex’s age, I think either depression can creep up on you or hit you like a ton of bricks, I’m 55 now and I’ve explored many things, so if it wasn’t for my kids, I would have checked out already. I’ve tried everything to help improve it, but nothing really works, been through therapy too. The people who are lucky are those that never have these feelings in their lifetime, that’s a true gift I lost long ago which makes it worse, on the other hand, if you’ve never experienced these feelings you can’t fully understand them, when you are younger you see many doors that are open for you, after middle age those doors get more narrow and narrow, I still have a great curiosity for things in the world, but I’m also tired of life now and that feeling is exhausting.

I think about wanting to die very often. I was seconds away from dying when an adult child and the police did a wellness check. The feeling isn't depression. It's different. Suicide is not chosen, it happens when pain exceeds the resources for coping with pain. It has nothing to do with asking ourselves about tomorrow. It's not depression. So sick of people who have no clue why try to teach others and they have no clue. Suicide is not chosen, it happens when the pain exceeds the resources for coping with pain.

not just depression, anxiety leads to these feelings as well like I am having right now where I feel trapped and helpless and that only worsening suffering awaits me in the future

The desire to “get after it” sometimes leads to long days and sleepless nights. If you have only sleepless nights, the brain will eventually switch to thinking about any possible way to go to sleep. Forever. It is like having a cramp in your brain.

I destroy that depressive person in my head all the time by tearing them out of bed, throwing cold water on them, running them. The problem is thinking that, that person is the only person you are.

Hearing this kind of conversation from more level-headed folks is very calming. Thank you for addressing this

The flaw in most of this is that the mind doesn't think logically when it's in that bad of a state.

You have no idea how much some of us need to hear this, need to have these uncomfortable conversations openly and without judgement or disdain. Thank you for opening these doors.

I've often thought that trying too explain depression too somone who has never been depressed is as hard as fish trying too explain how they live underwater too a land animal, its like we are two different species. I've been asked by ppl "how could you think of killing yourself?" And just looked at them like, how could you not?

Ive tried everything. I still almost went through with it after my ex dumped me and admitted to pitying me. Because they were there for me for 10+ years and i could never just be happy. Thinking about the "present moment," trying to be kind, drugs, alcohol, therapy, spending time with friends and family. The pain never ends. I have to remind my mother that its not her fault. I was deeply sad ever since i had my first memories and consciousness. There is no cure but death, and yet i remain because im such a coward. And im in love with the green trees and the blue sky, the sound of water flowing... and i am deeply curious of the lives of those beloved to me. I want to see them live on. I can only do that by living. It doesnt make me feel better though, because i also wish to see what will happen once im dead. People have argued with me back and forth about what happens. Perhaps i will be stuck in unconsciousness forever. Thats fine. No more pain. Now i just have to find the courage.

I think there's a large misunderstanding when a healthy person with a healthy mind attempts to understand suicide. There are people born with such unfortunate circumstances and struggle or trauma that the idea that it would be better to not exsist than be forced to suffer another day of the bad dice roll you were given is a better option. It's almost doing yourself a favor and liberating yourself from meaningless pain that was forced on you. I can still appreciate the feel of the breeze or the smell in the air after it rains as much as anyone. The difference is the pain and trauma isn't going to go away because the breeze feels good. Whereas you may have the same experience minus the pain and trauma of someone else. Overall i find it incredibly ignorant when i hear these kind of conversations from people who don't understand. Where's my representation in society where is my LGBT group?

sometimes the hotel feels fully booked :/

Psilocybin has helped me big time with my depression. It allows you to see yourself without ego, and has allowed myself to see problems that I didn't even know were there. I've done macro and micro dosing with it. Can't wait till they figure it all out so it can be used with therapy.

It only takes a minute of the brain to shut down and if you are on your knees begging for the pain to stop..you just want to die right in that minute. Some succeed and some don't. I'm one that did not succeed. Thank god.my heart goes out to anyone that is in a hopeless cycle.

When you are in pain, physical mindless pain than it takes the ability to enjoy anything away except stopping the pain. If the drugs, therapy, and physical therapy just don’t work and that mindless pain just keeps hammering on you it makes suicide the nuclear option. I could always stop the pain but how bad does it have to get?

My depression right now is horrific. I’m in bed, agitated and and full of fear about feeling sui cidal. This is torture

I started taking anti depressants at 26 after years of anxiety and depression, works miracles for me to counter this sense of dread. Doesn't mean I don't think about death or suicide every now and again, nor the fact that so many things seem meaningless, like our manners and way we order our lives.

It's not only about the at least partial or potential+actual cruelness of the world and futility of existence but also about realizing and acknowledging that ultimately even oneself is the problem. It's easy to say "change yourself if you don't like who you are", so the problem may be certain ways of interacting (or not interacting) with the world for example. We always assume that we can change ourselves, or "change our ways", but in reality, personality and especially early childhood experiences or repeated trauma and the way it forms and informs your personality & worldview is a fairly constant / stable thing. You may have tried to change it, try to stem the tide and swim upstream for over a decade and eventually it becomes exhausting, you can get to the point at which your life and yourself just keeps breaking down, the results aren't good, you don't function well anymore (or maybe you do) but there is an inability to experience pleasure, joy, motivation and meaning. And philosophically speaking: what for? If you try to argue logically it's incredibly hard to argue FOR life. A lot of our value for life and living is sentimental, not rational or logical, but emotions based (due to millions of years of evolution and the biases we hold as a result).

Lex, genetics is just a primer, the reason you feel joy at everyday things, is bc ur dad or mom taught you that kind of joy. Genetics and circumstance sets certain boundries, but they don't CREATE action. Only human choice creates an action or mental disposition. If your right that genetics is the primary reason for joy or depression, then how can you advise a depressed person not to kill themselves. They lost the feeling good lottery, so let them exit the game. The answer is as Schopenhauer tells us, we can be happy in depressing situations, so long as we are struggling towards something, meaning when you struggle towards a goal or a better life, you are asserting your own will and not giving into circumstance/ genetics

Any idea where to get this kickass mug?

Knowing how to focus on the present moment is key. When you can smile at a ice cold drink in your hand, you got it going on. I had a long period of depression and had a suicide plan. My problem was ruminating on the past and thinking I had no future. Sam Harris has a video on here called “Death and the Present Moment.” That and talking with a professional who encouraged me to finish my degree, I feel saved my life.

I think believing that meaning is discovered gives false hope and ultimately ends in disappointment. I find it much more useful to believe that meaning is made. It’s deeply personal and filled with mystery. There is no sudden arrival into a life full of meaning but rather a gradual process. It’s following and endless trail of breadcrumbs. The breadcrumbs are the mysterious moments and the meaning is connecting them and asking a new questions.

Now I have to start reading Brothers Karamazov...

Dr. "That sounds serious, but why did you come to me? I'm a pediatrist, you need a psychologist." Moth "The light was on"

Who is artist responsible for painting in thumbnail?

Depressed = Deep Rest. It's your body telling you to rest.

Lex is a savage that he gets excited if this was to be his last day :) Respect.

I was raised in isolation by old-school loving parents, never felt fear, just wanted to be as good a man as my father. Now, 60yr, all I have is fear, but not for myself, for my children and grandchildren, I'm actually ready to go! "Fear of what", well, let's just say I've experienced my Awakening, realized the sorry state of the World. Coming from both sides, ignorance truly is bliss.

The mundane makes me happy, always has. But when others don't, it makes those people seem boring/shallow to me. I figured it was my faith and how I was raised. Blessings come in all shapes and sizes ⭐✨

I love your talks with Philosophers! Please get Dr. Bernardo Kastrup (Phd, Phd!) on to discuss his metaphysics of Idealism!!

Forty years of conditioning is forty years worth of social programming, cultural input and relationships developed. It’s a profound cruelty to ask someone to unwind all of it or come to the conclusion that you are not in charge of your family’s outcome, you are not in charge of where you stand in society, and that perhaps all of society is living an equal predicament, shaped to destroy families and individuals alike in the name of “climate change” or population control. When the prospect of spontaneity is eliminated, along with it goes excitement.

Lex, I simply do not feel good enough. I reject what this world values: money, youth,and if someone isn’t physically gorgeous they don’t matter.

depression isn't just one thing. sure it might be chemical. it's also life experiences. your childhood. your self image. isolation. your motivation.... it's a lot of things. i think a lot of people who aren't depressed just haven't experienced things that show them other ways of looking at things.

Interesting note: According to academia research statistics the highest suicide rates in regard to religion and worldview are as follows, starting with the highest rate and ending with the lowest. - Atheists - Buddhists - Hindus and Christians - Muslims

Silence of Peace Comes from within The harder I listen The less I hear Surrender & be free Respect, love & hope Gratitude, attitude & compassion May our Short lives Be Long lived…

If I do it now I'll be at peace by the end of this video. So easy, yet so hard.

I understand trying to understand depression but it just seems back handed and misunderstood here on all angles. Respect Lex but I just don't see his point on this one haha

Two happy wealthy intellectuals talking about depression and suicide as if they understand.

suicide is when you cannot imagine another room

The thing is,what if you just dont have the appetite to explore the next room Lex.no matter how life changing it will be,i mean so what?

i wouldn't say i'm depressed, but i'm basically twenty and i'm already very cynical and bitter.

you've never TRULY struggled Lex

It's almost funny how materialism is considered to be de facto true among modern scientists, when Lex insists that there's something about brain chemistry that makes you depressed (or something to that effect), implicitly rejecting the possibility that there "could" be immaterial factors in play "too" (I'm not rejecting that brain chemistry does play a role).

I find it strange that people claim they don’t think of suicide. We have 1000s of thoughts everyday not one of them is about their own death? I doubt it. It’s insulting that there’s something wrong with me because I have thoughts about Darwinism and suicide. I think most people if not all of us have those thoughts

I don't want to stay in a hotel room. I want to go outside.

As Pete Holmes says: "your brain is a withholding bitch"

Soul

I am depressed and suicidal, I hate my life, I think life has no meaning, I hate everyone, I was able to clear the computer science engineering but I really don't have any intrest in it or mai usko 2 saal se taal raha hu, I think no one would ever love me and I also can't love anyone, ever, dikhawa bahut karta hu accha hone ka but Agar mere ko koi mauka de to sabko 🔫 dunga and I think I don't have anything more to experience in life, I want my life to end without any pain!

omg, refrigeration

well, the guy Lex's talking to obviously doesn't get it when he says the mortality thing adds meaning to people's life. Yeah from a scholar's perspective maybe. But most people and i say like the majority of people live in a trance state of mind of an illusion that they are immortal and only with a flesh of horror suddenly they get this idea and they don't derive some realization of meaning in that instatn. Gosh, no. It's pure horror. And then again in this trance of immortality. So how many times to hear from a scholarly mind this nonsense of adding meaning ?

By design, it is empty

Lex is such a sweet boy.

you're amazing lex but the way you talk about it is almost disrespectful. you can't understand deep pain and that's why you're thinking it's easier and smaller than it really is.

“Aliveness”?

I believe its pavlovian. Just as the thought of a juicy piece of chicken, if only for a few seconds, stops the pain of a starving individual. The thought of suicide (or non-existence) relieves the mental pain (best described as a broken heart for the self), if only for an instant. Over time, as that path has become the only source of relief...

Refrigeration

lucky him.