Some Atop the Fourth Wall episodes to double check my references: Angel Punisher is from Punisher: Purgatory (he's turned into a Black Guy too!) Incestuous Scarlet Witch is from Ultimates 3 (the Ultimate Universe) Spider-Man selling his marriage to the Devil is from One More Day And Gwen Stacy getting pregnant from Norman Osborn is from Sins Past.

So this is basically Marvel Fanfiction: The Game, except it's made by EA.

You know, the idea of having to play as the opposing faction inbetween missions and potentially killing other playable characters is interesting. Imagine a campaign building up to a climactic final battle between two sides, with every mission transitioning between both sides and having the player decide what loss the other side suffers. You can make one side strong by only targeting the shittier characters in the death battle missions meaning the final battle will be lopsided at the risk of your own powerful characters dying in the process.

probably too late now, but the fatalities in this game work like this: Your health bar has 2 points to keep in mind. One is the actual amount of full health you have left, and the other is the "DANGER" level. When you take damage a black line slide down your health bar and slow grows back to the actual amount of health you have left. its like a temporary low point for your health. Around about a 5th of the entire health bar is when the word "DANGER" will appear above the health bar. When a fighter Has the word "DANGER" above their health bar that means they are venerable to a fatality which is executed by doing a super grab on them when the Word "DANGER" is showing. So basically you could combo someone to the point where the black line passes the "DANGER" threshold point and do the finishing move even though the full length of remaining health is still quite full. Nowhere in the game does it explain this, I just figured it out on my own back in the day. That's why it seemed like the AI was cheating by comboing you into a finishing move. But you would be totally forgiven for not knowing this, the game simply wasn't properly polished and it shows. Even after playing it for hours as a kid I still don't know how proper blocking works or how sometimes super grabs are simply canceled by the AI just because they want to. I would say "hope that helped", but I doubt if you will ever pick the game up again lol

"Nobody cares about the Dreamcast." Well, it does have a cult following and sizable fanbase. There was still more love to it than the WiiU.

"Nobody cares about the Dreamcast" What have you done?! Do you realize what you've just--OH GOD THEY'RE COMING!!! THE DREAMCAST FANS ARE COMING!!!

something i noticed about Spiderman, is that the lighting makes the webs on his costume look like its the Sam Raimi movie suit, though this ones a bit better since the eyes can actually move around, BAZING!!!

You perform fatalities by using super grabs (Grab them while pressing the super power button) if your opponent has the word "danger" hovering on their healthbar, which usually hovers there if you're primary health bar is low, regardless of where your secondary one is. That's why the A.I. was able to insta-kill you so quickly when you played Hazmat.

Quick notes from someone who dedicated time to this game and completed the story mode numerous times (which sound like they were covered early on): Always block (restores super bar), throw your enemy if they’re blocking, finishers can happen any time when you have low health as long as your health bar says “Danger” (characters that mysteriously pull off their finisher despite being away from you are using their super grab that’s ranged, including Spider-Man, Venom, Hazmat, and Storm and your primary health bar is near death while your secondary health bar reduces your maximum health), don’t aggressively fight the bosses and find their windows to attack, exploit items whenever you can, the early characters are garbage (Wolverine, Thing, Elektra, Storm) and the last characters you unlock (Iron Man, Venom, Brigade Paragon, Niles Van Roekel) are OP as hell for having great strength and range, and yes, it sucks that Hulk gets offed by one of the many spaceships you kill easily later on by jumping and grabbing. In terms of the plot, the Imperfects (in debt to Roekel for resurrecting/saving them) are hunting for Paragon after she escapes as Van Roekel created her to be his perfect weapon to liberate his home planet (the Paragon army was just a hypothetical image but yeah I can see where your confusion is coming from) and of course the Imperfects become heroes at the end despite them killing off nearly the whole Marvel roster with Paragon as their leader.

The most noteworthy thing about this game was that its developer, Nihilistic Software, previously developed a build of the canceled Starcraft: Ghost. After this game, the studio developed Conan, Zombie Apocalypse, PlayStation Move Heroes, Resistance: Burning Skies, and Call of Duty: Black Ops - Declassified. Soon after Declassified was released, the company closed down.

So basically what Marvel Nemesis is sorely lacking: • Combination moves, grappling moves, & special moves. • Alternate skins & costumes. • Non-repetitive game-mechanics. • Non-faulty gameplay-balance. • Game modes (such as arcade, co-op, survival, missions, & training). • An earlier game that focuses on the X-Men, with Marvel Nemesis as it's sequel. • A well-written plot and settings that makes sense. • Non-ripoff OCs that give justice to the iconic Marvel legends. • Different story-modes for each character with good, bad, and neutral endings. • A roster that's less like vanilla Street Fighter EX2, but better than Marvel Ultimate Alliance's list.

Something not mentioned in this review is that Paragon is arguably the MOST broken character in this game because of all the playable characters in this game, she's the only one who has a super move that can restore health mid-combat. Her super grab move where she impales her opponents internal organs with her arm scythe things will restore a pretty decent chunk of her health each and every time you use the move. And you can pretty much use it so long as you've got energy available. Oh and it DOESN'T MATTER if your opponent manages to block the stab move, it's so horribly implemented that you'll still get the health bonus even if your opponent blocks the super grab. Doesn't make much of a difference in story mode cuz of how poorly balanced the combat mechanics are, but in the 1v1 matches with other heroes it gives her a deceptively massive advantage over anyone she's paired against. She's literally a press X to win character in this game, and you can cheese a shitload of fights with her once you figure out how to abuse this completely broken gameplay mechanic. You'd think Wolverine or some other hero with a noteworthy healing ability would also have this same mechanic, but nope. Only Paragon gets this feature. A character that everybody seems to know about, who has massively OP abilities, and is basically a forced self-insert that can easily overpower known and established names in a beloved franchise. EA was ahead of their time, in all of the worst ways one could be ahead of their time. I still have fond memories of trolling the absolute shit out of friends by playing her for this exact reason, so they'd pick Paragon as well once they caught on to how broken she is, and we'd spend a good 30 seconds each match just grab-blocking each other back to full health over and over.

Nobody cares about the Dreamcast? Thems fighting words.

You should have called her "Not-crawler".

*Now that’s what I call a web-slinging ass kicking*

I also had that problem with The Imperfects. They hardly do anything in the story aside from fight the Marvel characters. The main Imperfect femail character is the only one that plays a part here.

Semi-related because it's a Marvel game and Spidey's there so; Happy Spider-Man Day, Jadow. Great review on the game. Also I am aware of that storyline that you mentioned and let me tell ya; ever since I watched Linkara's review of it, I hate this storyline more so than One More Day. I wished that storyline was retconed instead of Peter and MJ's marriage.

Wait, so you can kill Venom before he has a chance to kill Spiderman? That sets up a good concept for a fighting game; having branching storylines depending on which characters are alive or dead... too bad they don't do anything with it in this game.

Any time you or your opponent has “danger* flash over your health bar, it makes them prone to a fatality move that triggers when you press a super throw. One of my favourite aspects of this game was seeing all the heroes kill each other with ridiculously brutal finishers. Seriously, seeing Wolverine hack Spider-Man into spider sushi is permanently ingrained into my brain.

"Nobody cares about the Dreamcast" I literally just bought one today at a yard sale :/

You just reminded me that I purposely bought a PSP so I can play as Dr Doom

I remember forcing myself to juice any semblance of fun out of this game as a kid, to limited success. The lack of a lock-on system, floaty, ineffectual and iffy hitbox melee moves that encourage projectile spam and throwables, questionable character roster, no coherent story... but hey, good thing this came out before microtransactions and DLC packs, where people would probably have to pay to have a proper pick of Marvel legacy characters to play around with like Deadpool or Thor, etc etc.

Paragon was the only reason I played this game. She can kick everyone's ass with that teleporting slash

20:41 "You just get banged around like a pinball, man!" I had a hard time trying to keep my laughter contained. No offence.

Slagging of the Dreamcast before the 5 minute mark. You sir, are a far braver man than I.

Well apparently Power Stone was big enough to get an anime, which was big enough to get 2 seasons, which were big enough to get dubbed and have the 1st season air on YTV..... Oh and there was a PSP port

Thank god seven year old me dodged a bullet and played Marvel vs Capcom 2 on the PlayStation 2. Instead of this crap.

I remember playing this game on the psp with my friend. I actually really liked it

Just so you know the reason enemies can use finishers on you when you still have loads of health is because the first health bar is low enough. It doesn't matter if you're outer health bar is full, if the inner bar is near empty & it says danger, they can use the finisher. You also need to have a certain amount of energy to do a finisher which is probably why you weren't able to replicate the finisher As someone who is actually very familiar with this game, this game can be fun if you know how to play it properly and you practice. But they don't explain ANYTHING to you beyond a few instructions near the start of the game which tells you the basic controls. And very few people will ever take the time to try to properly learn this game. The plot also isn't properly explained either. It's never established whether the marvel characters are actually dead, or whether they became mind controlled after they were defeated by the imperfects, or what happened to them after the end of the game. And then they just try to quickly explain the plot in the final cutscene but it doesn't really explain anything. I actually enjoy this game but I cannot say it's a good game. Far from it. But it could've been amazing imo There's also lacking content in this game. only 2 game modes, 18 characters (only 10 of which are marvel characters), 7 versus maps (which are also constantly re-used in story mode missions). The game has also aged quite poorly with the graphics and stuff and with the MCU but it actually looked quite good for the time. Obviously in 2020 it doesn't look good with the bad graphics and this odd dark feel of the marvel universe

Yeah, this game sets in it's own timeline. Not the main comics continuity. You certainly feels this need to bring up Peters misery for some reason but not bring up Wolverine's or Daredevil's.

Personally I think the Imperfects are a cool cast of characters. Shame we didn't get more with them.

I feel like Im the only one who LOVED this game, I don’t ever remember it being terrible. Yet again, I was 8 when it came out

To get perform a fatality, you just have to deplete your opponents health bar and press the grab button while holding the special power button. The button that make Wolverine pop up his claws.

To do the fatalities, I believe the first health bar (the one that depleted faster/the shield) has to be in the “danger” zone, and then you have to go for a power throw.

Interesting how this game did the Last of Us 2 thing way before that game even existed.

Loving these new videos Keep up the good work ❤️❤️❤️

I played the PSP version so I didn't get to see the real story but the combat was fun

The imperfects could’ve been a solid group if they were in their own universe and actually flushed out.

20:39 I don't understand how you could be THIS bad at this EASY game. Just HOLD the SPECIAL trigger and ALL your attacks and grabs will be powerful. When I used Magnetto I barelly moved, just pull random objects and throw them back to them over and over again... ...Its that easy... 😞 ...And you can fly BTW...

Really hated this game's clunkiness, happy to see you tear it apart. Also, I like the PSP and Dreamcast.

Half your complaints are explained in the instruction manual lol...

I never been so early to one of your videos. That I was the second commenter good time man love your videos

EAs other fighting games Def jam vendetta and Def jam fight for NY has the exact same health mechanic as this game but the Def jam games don't suck like this game does

Bit of a shame that this was the best they could do with the Def Jam framework because the first two Def Jams were really good. I remember enjoying this back in the day, but...well, things age. Another thing to note is how hard they were (not) trying to emulate the movie continuities, which is why you have shiny-webbing Spidey and Magneto who doesn't look like Ian Macallan at all. It...only works when everyone's in step. See: Storm. And the fact that you don't see the Human Torch not on fire at any point so they don't have to try and imitate Chris Evans. As you've noted, there was some tie-ins in the form of comics. Issue is that it...kinda is irrelevant to the plot because it introduces plot points that are never brought up. Also as noted, Paragon IS meant to be an amalgamation of the other Imperfects - the others were just a bunch of (presumably failed-but-still-productive) lab experiments given orders to kill and little else.

The wink is one of my favorite marvel characters and she’s the reason I love girls with their face concealed. Too bad she’s never been in anything since

While it’s not good, I do like the Soundtrack.

Glad I'm not the only one who was infuriated by that lady

What's that? Captain America dies in a very early cutscene? And you do not get to play as him at all (except in the PSP version)? well, there goes any chance I have of playing this pile of slug vomit!

actually The Thing does have projectiles, a few of his attacks trigger a shock wave like Hulks Thunder Clap thingy, its not much range but its still arms length away

Spiderman and venoms power throws are O.P.

If feel I should mention that the developers intentionally made the characters unbalanced, if electra fights iron man she is going to have a hell of a time trying to beat him.

Could be Marvel's Avengers and Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League.🤷🏻‍♀️

Since Venom is in this game I think it's appropriate to say that this game is a turd in the wind.

Oh, I remember this! This is that Marvel Comics fighting game developed by the creators of Vampire The Masquerade: Redemption, isn't it?

Gee a game in a franchise that tries to get you invested in a new character by having said character kill off a beloved character from the previous installment, MAN I WONDER WHAT THAT REMINDS ME OF?!? (Stares Daggers at Last of Us Part 2).

Wait...so Marvel have no problem killing the marvel heroes and become zombies but they hate any media that kills off marvel characters like this game & a Halloween horror night 2002 Carnage Maze

It's very easy to just talk crap about this game, but I find it to have a lot of redeeming qualities in it, mostly in terms of artwork and atmosphere. The 2d art in the menu is beautiful, the shading and the green, Matrix-like tint gives it a very cool vibes, the FMV segments looks oddly mature and not something you wouldn't expect to see in a Marvel comics tie-in. I can go on and on about things I love about this game, but there's no point now is it? The game's still very hated. P.S: The PSP and Dreamcast are awesome, shame on you.

The mind control devices are the save icon on the PS2 version

I actually liked the Power Stone styled layout, adds a level of strategy that you can't get on a 2d fighting game specially with acrobatic characters like Daredevil and Spiderman

Fun fact Jadow, the back of the neck is called the nape.

14:02 "ill have this anonymous woman kill dare devil, he sucks and his levels suck" 😂😂😂 I just played through the story couple days ago I find myself agreeing and chuckling at everything you've said in this video.

love the name you came up with for johnny ohm

Funny how EA has tried to copy all popular stuff. - World of Warcraft: EA said to Bioware, give me that. Thus. Star wars: Old repulic. - Destiny: EA said to Bioware give me that. Thus. Anthem. - Marvel. EA said to developer, give me that. Thus. Marvel rise of imperfects.

Considering the aliens appear and disappear in green smoke, I think you just fight the same four aliens for the entire game.

If you've played One Piece Grand Battle/Adventure, then you've played Power Stone. The camera angles, the arena size, the jumping physics, and the emphasis on getting power-ups, basically all taken from Power Stone, which is a fun game.

Man it’s no wonder EA was named worst company in America

Fault Zone, Solara and Paragon are waifu material XD

To be honest from the looks of it that planet the Paragon clones were over was not Earth but the bad guys home planet, and the game should have ended with the clones shooting into the planet to start taking it back from the aliens (tm). Would have at least made the plot make sense. Oh and the other imperfects would have been just test dummies for what was being installed into Paragon, and all discarded when the experiments were a success. But why bother taking 2 minutes to explain that? Also, I love the design of the Wink character.

If an alien army can kill the Hulk in seconds, than I think its safe to say the rest of the marvel heroes are kinda fucked

First mistake: giving EA the power with beloved franchises.

20:17 - 20:24 Im wheezing, that was funny

Hey, Jadow have you watched Transformers prime? Because I thought the Wii U game was awesome.

Awesome review 🙂 I remember this game just came and went like it was nothing. And knowing that Daredevil is in THIS fighting game for consoles, but not Marvel vs Capcom (other than a cameo in MvC3), is baffling. I know he's in Contest of Champions, but that's just for phones and arcade. Can we PLEASE just get a damn Daredevil game already! Hell there was gonna be one back in the 2000s, but it got canned. There was a GBA tie-in game for the 2003 movie, though, but I doubt anyone talks about it, and probably not favorably.

I actually like this game

Have you tried the Jak and Daxter games on the PS4? The first installment is Jak and Daxter The Precursor Legacy.

Such a bad game, but man I miss this more "mature" era of Marvel. I would give anything for this formula of a Marvel arena fighter game to return over another 2D fighter though. But, as far as cult classics go, I do kinda respect this bleak clunky fanfic however.

my thoughts on which company laughed at marvel telling them "nobody cares about those losers" im pretty sure it was both, knowing how fox and sony are, it wouldnt be that surprising

I came here just to see how many people also had an awesome childhood playing this badass game on Gamecube!!!!

So, I know you don't care, but the reason why the AI was able to do a "Fatality" on you when you had a good chunk of health left is due to the "DANGER" risk. Once your health drops below a certain amount, usually halfway, then you'll see the "DANGER" text appear above your health. Any time that text appears, the enemy or you (depending on who is at "DANGER" risk.) can powered grab the other to perform a finishing move. That's basically the mechanic.

I honestly had no issue with the game I loved it just wish they put more love in it and characters like they did in the PSP version

14:28 You know you can dodge, grab, "block" and recover from hits in MidAir, right? 😏

God I recall this game before the mcu... It was eh. Hope your doing good on your end, jadow. Can't wait for the next review!

Can't wait for this!

I had to look at the wiki to see whats after the games events and they do go to that planet where Roeckel came from to fight a creature and are never heard of ever again. To give it a benefit, the characters individually without this alien plot, it could work in the 90's. Like Brigaid is actually 100 guys stiched together though the machine parts and johnny ohm is a excon that wouldnt die from the chair , thats kinda cool. too bad they are sent to the dark side of the mu universe where the characters that they dont wanna acknowledge are sent, like Hemo-goblin . also i dont know if anyone has mentioned it but paragon is totally a witchblade ripoff, just without the mythicalness

Oof... I fear what your opinion would be of Spiderman Friend or Foe...

ACKCHYUALLY, Power Stone is a Capcom IP, it just happened to be a Dreamcast console exclusive and that's why it can be confused with SEGA. Still waiting for a modern day port, some day it may happen. Also i'm one of the 3 people still caring about the PSP. Wich coincidentally had a port of Power Stone, so it all comes full circle. -Teo

I actually enjoyed this game when I was younger. In hindsight I was young.

Honestly, the first moment with the imperfects seems like a great way to trick the player. It sounded awesome. But it has no reason to be there.

actually i just realized, i kinda do the same thing that EA did with marvel here, killing off beloved heroes to kick off their own series, thing is though, i do it with just one hero (well 2 and one villain, but one is out of heroic symbolsim, the other is out of petty) in my fan stories i actually wrote that batman and joker are dead, long dead, superman dies two but thats when he fought doomsday, i really do that just to show there are more heroes to focus on

Am I the only one who actually loved this game 🤷

21:53 When DANGER is in your HealthBar, its actually means RUN!!! ...Because you/they can/may Trigger a FinishMove. 😎👍

You mean that's not Iron Fist on the title screen, Jadow?

Oh woah, I used to watch you back in 2017.

any reference to the weird comic stories jadow mentions can be found in Linkara Reviews, again, he cant make that up

18:06 Actually, characters are playable from the weaker (in their opinion) to the strongest (again, in their opinion), that's why Magnetto is most on the last with Johnny.

Venoms avatar looks like Count Duckula.

Its also funny because their was one character who actually was used after this game. Hazmat (the goop guy) was in Marvel Universe Vs The Avengers #1. They later said that the artist legit got things mixed up and they were meant to draw hazmat from the young avengers but instead draw hazmat from the imperfects 😂 hazmat and the rest of the imperfects havent been seen in anything outside of this game, the comic series tieing into it and that one mistake.

I really liked this review. I remeber when I was Just a 10 year old kid and found this game awsome, but now that I have seen your video I remember some of the bad things of the game that didnt allowed me to complete the story mode. It would be cool if you can make a review of the kingdom hearts games series that are available as remasters for the ps4.

I remember playing this on the Ps2 as a kid. I kept playing Spiderman, wolverine, and Paragon multiple times. Looking back on this as a adult today, this game is awful. Terrible controls, weak story, and the fact that EA was involved makes my stomach turn. I guess back in my childhood, I had very low standards to the point that I would play anything that caught my attention.

This game was an alternative for me when I couldn't find a Marvel game made by Capcom at the time. It was 2008 so it wasn't a year later when Marvel vs Capcom 2 gets an HD release. A month or 2 later I finally found a ps1 copy of Marvel Superheroes and I barely touched nemesis since.