"Deniability is difficult given she has...so much of your blood." Perfect line, perfect delivery.

This scene also gives us hints as to why Gerri and Carolina aren't on the kill list. Shiv calls Carolina good and solid and then adds later that Gerri is very good with situations such as Mattson's "Ebba" situation (regardless of it being a tru situation or not)

"it's ebba" fucking incredible comedic timing

I know he’s playing her but the way he said “I like you, you’re cool” was kinda adorable in a funny way lol like a schoolboy telling a girl on the playground

In the same breath, Shiv throws support & a lifeline to female colleague Gerri while suggesting a Catch & Kill operation.

3:05 The way he says "it's Ebba" like an embarrassed child makes me burst out laughing.

Matsson is not lying, the whole thesis of the show is that these rich and powerful figures are incompetent. It's been established already that Matsson is a bit of a weirdo, him admitting that to Shiv on coke makes sense

I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ALL SKIPPING OVER THE BLOOD STORY TOO MUCH LIKE I-

Since meeting Logan at the end of season 3, I've seen Mattson as a "Succession Dracula." (Blood bricks and all). This was Shiv basically getting seduced at Dracula's mansion.

Absolutely loved this scene and the fact that these two did interact with each other. Amazing writing too.

A Skarsgard going on a depraved confessional monologue in a swank Nordic home wearing a black turtleneck? No one told me I was watching Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.

Mattson’s basically like a young version of Logan mixed with Roman

They have so much chemistry

YES this is my favorite scene oh my god. The line delivery at 3:10 is so funny the “it’s emmffhfhf” and the way he glances around is so good

Wolves work better in packs when coming after a kill. Hopefully shiv and the other siblings realize that.

"a nasty, friendly joke about what i shouldn't do....i sent her some of my blood" omg...the writing !!! ... it's crazy!!!

Oh it will be so interesting to see how this info comes into play. It's clear from this episode that the three siblings would work so well together as a trio. Hopefully they figure that out before it's too late.

I actually think he's telling the truth about the blood thing lol

Y’all think mattison is a serious person. Dude sent blood bricks to his ex and employee...he’s just Roman but with his dads hand on training

Matsson’s confession definitely confirms he’s loosely based on Elon.

Maddson is a young logan ..and he's playing with them.

Skarsgard's facial expressions and body language from 2:34 to 3:00 are a work of art.

whatever the Roy sibling's flaws, whoever is currently winning the war of nerves re the deal, Mattson is a ticking time bomb

Incredible to think she is giving her father's legacy to that creep by knowing that story, at the end of the show

i really don't believe he's playing Shiv, he's never been shown to be savvy, he's always been portrayed as nihilistic and chaotic. theres a distinct difference between creating an elaborate experiment with rats and poking a dying cat with a stick. what Mattson is doing is very likely the latter. i think in general the people who believe Mattson is some sort of mastermind are the same types of people who likely defend irl billionaire and legitimately think they've earned or worked for their fortunes. its funny that Mattson is so similar to Elon that fans of the show start actually believing his fictional mystique the same way people do with Musk. i think if anything he's just going to get bored and find some way to fuck with Shiv, she's gonna realize he's fucking nuts, and chaos will ensue because thats what his character has represented from the moment he first appeared in this story. so yeah i believe his story and i dont think he's playing Shiv, i think he's genuinely trying to get a sense of how a leak of that would be perceived in American media. i also think he's doing that thing a lot of weird, pathetic men do which is treat all women like free therapists. its a strange but all too real thing how even the biggest 4chan incels, when met face to face with a real woman and not a pornstar, they just melt into weird little blabbermouths, going on and on about their weird problems.

The thing that I always see in Shiv is she is always manipulated with the slightest bit of attention or validation I get the daddy issues but this is going on the third time on the show she use to be a political adviser I’d think she would be a pro and treading the mind game waters

Ive always said shiv is most like her father

Her sending pics of her brother's having a low moment just shows how she's truly a snake. Betraying was one thing but this was just cruel.

I guess "Pinky" can dance.

There is a scene before this one where they are talking in an afternoon party or something. I need to know the background music from that scene, but I can't seem to find it anywhere.

IMHO! What a master manipulation on behalf of Mattson 1) a show of vulnerability, confiding about screwup (potentially a lie) 2) brute force flattery - explicitly comparing Shiv to Logan He has her in his pocket

folks, the blood thing is real. he's coked up and clearly unstable, and has been since we saw him the first time. he's not lying.

matsson makes a great development. plays the long game.

Eric and Sookie? Hahaha 🤣

I wonder if he's autistic, or has antisocial personality disorder, or ADHD or something. He seems to be genuinely shocked and befuddled people have been judging him for sending a girl he used to date bricks of his blood. He says he has "difficulty seeing the angles on people"

Shiv again thinking she's a mastermind and being played like a fiddle.

I’m just laughing that he has any blood left. 🤣 Let me hand you gallons of my DNA in brick form.

Shiv's face ar 3:18 bro i cant 😂😂😂

Mattson secret is Fugazi!! he played with her so badddddd. Mattson is a fucking psychopath, smarter even more ruthless than Logan IMO. He's manipulating her, I think, untill the finale.

Yo does anyone know what's "catch and kill", Shiv says it as her second point of the PR plan

Completely irrelavant to this scene, but Alex Scarsgard is so dreamy. There is one scene in this episode where he is taking off his jacket and his shirt comes off a bit and I could not pay attention to the dialogues for a full minute. And when he says, "I like you," He looks so cute!!

The acting of the Swede!

Bullshit, I call bullshit, there's no way someone will reveal a dark secret to a business opponent after an hour or less, all the fine lawyers in the world and he ask Shiv for tips about this thing? No

His fucking vacant look/expression when told to stop sending woman his blood lmaoo.

I thought he was alluding to Gerri and Roman.

He got to her with that "like your dad"

He is playing her like Logan did on Season 2

That’s my song playing in the background lmao

Skarsgård in Fjällräven, nice touch by the producers and the wardrobe people lmao

That's gotta be some good coke

If his blood story is not some BS to outmaneuver Shiv, then Matsson is not a serious person. I wonder if Makin and Republicans might not come into play also and throw a wrench in a sale of a US media company to a foreign company. Especially a news corporation that in the past has been very favorable to them.

What Joke did Matsson tell Shiv, he said she could take a joke like her Dad. Was he joking about the blood?

if you think the blood brick story is fake i gotta say maybe you dont GET this show

Her Aussie accent was so strong when she say "liter"

Hot guy but doesnt seem to get the effect of his words on her. Like “like your dad”.

Mattson was right when he called the Roy children a tribute band. Shiv should know exactly what Mattson is doing here, but she thinks too highly of herself. I could believe the blood story is real, Mattson is a sadist. Just like with Nan and her act to get a higher price. The children paid almost double what their father offered for Peirce. They should have known because Nan's actions were different from her headache/"fretting" over a bidding war. A bidding war she started. The Roy children are like pay $8 a mth for a blue check. They have the credentials without having the credentialing.

I’m hoping she didn’t do that bump 😊

Matsson told Shiv exactly what she wanted to hear and she fell into his trap. This felt like a repeat of Logan's mind game with Shiv in Season 2. The blood brick story seems like a bunch of BS. Someone like him would never be stupid enough to divulge that kind of dirt to an opponent.

Why it's nobody it's talking about how Shiv it's drinking even tho she is pregnant... it's she gonna abort or already she did??

Uh huh every 2 seconds like sending his employee his blood

I love his character he is so oooo good looking

he's playing her

Shiv is the absolute worst!!

Attagirl Sibhoan - coke and booze help a fetus after 20 weeks.

Are they intentionally playing Shiv like a complete moron or is there some deeper play?