after we called him out, they changed all the mistakes. But the fact that it happened several times is not good at all.

Ok, now THAT'S bad.

How did they spell it?

if he kept misspelling her name at least call her jen/jennifer 😭

@@funkypigeon3676 like yujin, hun yunjin, huh yunjio 💀

Daechwita will always be a banger. Like lives were changed when it dropped

Someone else who remembers HTR! I loved MAX and saw him talented he was for a long time and just seems very passionate. I really hope he is genuine about his working relationships with Kpop artists because I want to them all to succeed!

same! i knew of max before but from his songs like gibberish or lights down low back in 2016. i recently rediscovered him from this collaboration with yunjin and it took me some time to relealize that their the same max lol. i do believe that now he's using kpop's popularity to his advantage but this isn't the first time i've seen this happen. but i hope that his at least respectful to the ppl he collaborates with as its the bare minimum.

I also know him from back then and I kinda feel like he was promised more fame, but no one really caught on to him so he was unfortunately dropped by whoever managed him 🤷🏼‍♀️ he saw a chance with kpop collaborations and did it and let’s be real, there’s nothing wrong with it. It’s the industry. They aren’t friends doing music together, they are colleagues 🤷🏼‍♀️ and in the end he’s American. He most likely has the mindset that he’s better than people from other countries, which is sad, but if you grew up that way, it’s hard to blame you for. So him acting like he needed jump on the kpop train might as well was just a play to avoid being seen weak. Like "I’ve seen the trend and I need to hop onto it before it’s too late" instead of "I needed to try that route, because the American music market didn’t really care about me anymore"

@@xxheart_breakerxx8732 but that’s the thing, he has formed a friendship with those who he collaborated with at least that’s what the idols believe hence why this discussion is happening. I do believe he was promised more fame also but I do believe that some of it came not knowing how to market him. I disagree with the American mindset generalization. Yes, there are Americans who believe they are better than other countries. But it’s not just an American mindset, it’s a human mindset. A narcissistic one but a universal one. I also don’t think the reason he hopped on the K-pop trend bc of his reception here because even though he’s not mainstream or didn’t see the same success like Miley, Demi, Selena, or Ariana. He’s still doing fine here in America, he has a solid fanbase from what I’ve seen, he has songs that charted. He went to K-pop because he wanted to make more money and get more clot. He’s doesn’t necessarily need anymore, he wants more so when he does songs with K-pop artists his intentions are questionable because it’s obvious he’s doing it for money and clot but we don’t know how transparent and genuine he is with the artists he collaborates with

@@serenitygreene5661 all artists do music for money, that's always the intention 😂😂 if you can make music without having to think about the money aspect, that's a huge privilege. And you act like idols are dumb. Oh, they think they made friendship. Maybe they only act like they're friends now for publicity, too? So in that case, they use him About the American one. I never(!) met an American who didn't think they have to educate me on a random topic because they thought they knew better. Never. Didn't matter the age either. Can't say much about the history of his fame, but to me (since I knew him from rags) he kinda went under the radar and really just popped back up once he involved himself with kpop, but that's subjective 🤷‍♀️

Loved that song! Really sad that it didn’t get any special stages

This! Hrvy even got a tattoo of it

Yes it was executed so well

YESSSSS

I loved that song!! It’s probably one of my favorite kpop collaborations

Well it work, I when to check out who is this txt group doing this high profile collabs. I dont think that they add much of the intricisic flavour of the jonas or anitta in their songs. So sounded for me as just marketing. As is Max with yunjin as just vocalist, but I dont know much about yunjin personal flare outside the gruop.

now why is BTS in it...... ohhh dpmo

exactly my thoughts, in this industry everyone’s an opportunist its all about who play that game well and in this whole context of max, yoongi and yunjin collabs i feel like its a mutual agreement to capitalize in their respective industries or they’re just releasing a song together so go stream

@@1doortheseayunjin and suga are grown adults they can say no to collabs too no one forced them to collab with these people

Yeah fr Max and HYBE deserve each other. Yes, every kpop company is for-profit, but some of them are really just charts above all else.

it’s not, but at least if you’re going to do so, don’t: a) make it so blatantly obvious and b) present it to an audience full of people with parasocial connections to their faves who will dissect the validity of the collaboration

It is definitely a business, and approaching music collabs as opportunities is certainly not wrong! I mentioned this twice in the video. (4:40 and 10:38) My point is that with these collaborations has to come mutual respect - western artists, at the very least, knowing the names of the kpop artists they work with.

respect is still needed in business, believe it or not. manners can take you a long way

@@coralskpopcorneras if these kpop idols respect the westerners their music is HEAVILY inspired from how many times have we seen or heard kpop idols disrespecting or being racist to black Americans when kpop is inspired by black American rap r&b etc fashion slang etc kpop hasn’t been original Since it’s creation like let’s be Fr you can’t ask for respect but don’t give any now you have kpop idols hopping onto the Afro beats and amapiano trend smh

@@amorelockster1023 then they also need to respect the origins and apologize and show effective change for their racist actions, it’s a two way street, not asking for just for everyone to respect only the idols. people should also respect and acknowledge the roots of where their music comes from as then that creates erasure of valuable history. i was never asking for only respect for only the k-pop idols and I never will, if they are racist, they are racist. and you are right, there does need to be more acknowledgment of the formation of the Korean idol industry and the very obvious western and black influence in k-pop. I understand your point and concerns, however I was not hinting at that.

Yea same I can’t believe I never heard of him before

bcs he's a racist unknown oompa loompa freak ​@@starpril_

@@bellearena000exactly these kpop fans are so full of it they really have a superiority complex for people that enjoy music that isn’t even original

I think it’s also because K-pop is starting to become so much more mainstream and a lot more people know about it

The same people bitching about him doing racist stuff stan groups that have also been racist and that includes Bts and bp let’s be real

@@brennathecatlover4360 and as someone “bitching” (which by the way criticizing a PREJUDICE isn’t bitching, it’s a deep issue that should be handled with care), I’ve never stanned BP or BTS, so what’s your point? If you wanna out YOURSELF as someone who openly disregards racism as a topic, that’s fine, but don’t include the rest of us in your mess, yeah? Thanks.

@@Saladfork1929 no I’m just saying I’m sure the people that bash him like kpop groups that have done similar stuff. It’s no secret kpop fans will drag a western artist for doing something but their kpop fav does it and it’s crickets

@@brennathecatlover4360 I was about to argue but I get your point

ikr, they try to act like all Kpop stars are immune and can be prejudiced to anyone that doesn't look like them, and even when they do get called out. They don't get cancelled or the consequences are never severe as Western artists/anyone who doesn't meet the status quo

took the words right out of my mouth, well said!!

This is so thoughtfully put and insightful. I do think that although the kpop industry shouldn't have to prove itself as viable contenders with western pop through collaborations, that and english releases seem to be the only thing American radio respects (and will actually play). And these kpop companies want to break into American radio and the American music industry *badly*

and now chaewon is doing a collab with tori kelly. i love tori she's such a good vocalist, but you really can't deny that hybe is getting all the western collabs they can. the sentence u wrote abt western validation is so true im afraid 😭.

@@stream-5star Like Tori is my sister and i love her music, and i know she & Chaewon are going to serve vocally but yeah...

Thank you for making these very valid points @Leah-dz8fy

I can definitely see your point. I’ve been familiar with him since his Nickelodeon show. And while I’ve known who he is for that long, I’m not certain he was very massively popular except for short bursts. I could be wrong because I didn’t closely follow his music. But I wonder much of that throw shit to the wall to see what sticks was him trying to survive in music? Again, I’m not saying he’s not an opportunist. After watching the video and reading the comments, im not too sure honestly. And you could be right that he was acting as an opportunist there. But I also think it’s possible he like many artists just wanted something of his out there and wanted to survive and do well. Like we all do in our jobs, especially with creative ones

So you don't like artists unless they 'stick in their lane' and don't develop, try new things. mmmmm never heard of the term Artist Development of expanding your skill set. Artist who continue to do just one thing soon becoming boring and lose a fan base. A fan base are what buy concert tickets, buy and stream an artist music. Are you trying to deny him his right to branch out, try new things, explore, grow? Please don't box artist's in it's not right.

He literally did covers of songs singing in Korean. It doesn’t get anymore invested into learning the culture than attempting to learn the language

But when your kpop favs do the same y’all don’t give af😂

@@brennathecatlover4360 this part

Personally I find this nothing wrong he is a opportunist what’s wrong with connecting with kpop artist and expanding his popularity in korea? Just because he do this doesn’t mean he is a bad person? Kpop stars also make tiktoks and meet/ collab with western artist (that’s how I knew about TXT since I been a long time fan of Anitta and she had a collab with TXT and make some tiktoks) that was before I became a MOA now I am a MOA, a Army and Dive

plss bc kpop idols are doing the same with the western industry but thats not a problem to you guys is it? kpop idols have been doing this since the dawn of time so why is it a problem if max does it? 😭

"There is a consensus that Max is an opportunist as if your favs are not willing to take advantage of Western/Black culture every second" TALK THIS TALK and preach! I do NOT care about this brads music (tho his good looking) and some of the shit he said in the video was pandering, and i do NOT care that he is finessing the kpop industry. They do the sameeee

Let me ask this One of the bts guys did a song with erykah badu Listening to the song, Do you really think they ever met? Or even had a conversation? Like most instances in music, His people asked her people for a sample, She laid down the track and gave it to them. There you have it

@@p0rnany0ne i agree with you, but there is a difference between faking knowing a lot abt kpop and just drop the sample and go. they didn’t make a lot when she dropped the sample, max made 23718 versions of blueberry eyes and talked abt yoongi 24/7

Kpop fans are toxic.

Exactly! Anyone who has any interaction with idols, especially BTS, the fans think they need to do a full background check on from birth until now. I've been a kpop fan since 2009. It used to be fun. Fans could listen to a song and just enjoy it. Now, fans think they have to dissect EVERYTHING about it and if any part of it doesn't fit exactly what they want, they have to throw it away and send hate. They assume that everyone that isn't their favs are just out to use idols and the fans. How quickly ARMY forgot AHL where Bighit dropped BTS in L.A. and used Warren G and Coolio to give BTS "credibility" in the hip hop world. Especially when Bighit was a tiny, no-name company at the time, and BTS were just 7 random kids from Korea. It wasn't like Warren G or Coolio were benefitting from that interaction. But BTS getting a better understanding of the birth of hip hop and making connections with hip hop legends absolutely DID benefit them and Bighit. And let's be real. BTS came into that environment not understanding the culture. And they absolutely said and did things that were offensive and that they regret and wish they could take back. No one is going to be perfect 100% of the time. Now, all these years later, BTS aren't naive anymore and they have enough pull in the kpop industry to be able to make their own decisions. If they want to collab with someone, they should be able to do that whether the fans like that person or not. No one is forcing you to support if you don't want to. I've been ARMY since 2014. Have i loved every single song they've put out over the years? No. Do i think every musician they've ever worked with had "pure" intentions when working with them? Nope. Do i think BTS know which musicians are only in it for the "clout?" Yep. People forget. BTS are the ones actually WORKING with these people. Not just seeing social media posts. They're actually meeting these people and have real life contact with them. Unless BTS themselves come out and say they regret working with someone or they feel uncomfortable, etc I'm going to assume they are aware of people's intentions and they want to work with them anyways. ARMY (and kpop fans in general) need to come down off their high horse and stop making everything so serious. Listen to a song and either enjoy it or turn it off. If you don't like a musician, don't support them. Don't listen to the collabs with them. Don't interact with them on social media. No one is forcing you to be here.

@@krisaissosmart No we don't we are happy for BTS member to work with whoever they are comfortable with what we don't like are those who then insult BTS like a certain American who won't mention who downright snubbed BTS and took him years to even apologise eg only just did it while they're doing their service. We'll now have to wait and see just how real that apology is.

@eileencritchley4630 You say that ARMY want BTS to have the freedom to work with whomever they want. But the second they do, half the fandom feel the need to do a full background check on that person and bring up everything that person has ever said/ done in their entire life that might offend someone and throw a massive temper tantrum and try to get that person canceled. You are literally SABOTAGING BTS' ability to do collabs because they're already getting a reputation for having a toxic fandom. Was it Wale that backed out of a second collab because the fandom trashed him and said he was just clout chasing? I can't remember if it was him or someone else. It sucks for BTS that half the fandom has taken it upon themselves to actively RUIN the reputation BTS has worked so hard to get as actual serious musicians. They're grown men. They do not need random strangers on the internet to baby them and act like they are incapable of standing up for themselves. If they want an apology for something, they're more than equipped to handle that without you stepping in. Stop infantilizing them. You're not their mommy and they don't need you to hold their hand and confront the bullies for them.

@@krisaissosmart I doubt those that do that are even BTS fans more likely the pretend one's that are only following to create issues. There are a number of those group on Twitter that are very well organised they pretend to be ARMY but are you are in fact part of the anti's who are only out to course trouble. It's really is disgusting behaviour. To even go to all that trouble when they could be actively supporting the groups they are really fans of instead of wasting their time pretending they are ARMY and attack BTS and ARMY from the inside. Talk about spies in the camp but unfortuantly it's what Kpoppies do. The only real person ARMY are not happy with is Jason Derulo (sp) because of the way he treated BTS. He finally apologised after they all started their military service in fact he did it in France while on tour just a over a week ago.

That makes a lot of sense. I wouldn’t be surprised if his artistic work now is a reaction to how much of his life he had to hide in his earlier career, and so now he wants to represent himself fully in his work There’s nothing wrong with that at all, but bringing the music business into the relationships he has with people seems to be what is causing this problem for most people

@@choujimi 100% agree

Your favs weren’t forced to collab with him they can say no. U people wanna act like u know him more than your favs that do know him

​@@brennathecatlover4360it's more like their companies are making them collab so technically, unless they are fully independent artists, they can't really say no 😂

Well he can’t change that…

Your FYP is based on what you watch so either swipe past plus don't comment or click the don't inter button

amen

That's a reason to hate him?

@@bellearena000no Fr weak asf

Y’all shit on him when kpop idols have done the same thing or worse and no one gives af. Like even Bts has done similar stuff

I didn’t think of it that way! I suppose he could have meant “getting in on kpop” in that way, but I don’t know if I would entirely believe it, considering the reason why he was speaking about kpop in the first place was because Jungkook had already promoted his song? I agree that Max shouldn’t be at fault for participating in the business side of the pop music industry, as that is a larrrrge component to what kpop is. My only problem with opportunistic ventures into kpop is when the artists aren’t respected in the collaboration, such as the mispronunciation of Yoongi’s name, or recently Yunjin’s name being misspelled in the credit sections of the MV. I’m sure Max didn’t oversee the making of the credit sections, but I think that’s why we also need to take our concerns to the record labels behind the artists

I mean you do realize that they might actually like their music and their personality though, even though they don’t speak the same language. Western kpop fans literally do the same. They like their idols music and personality even though they don’t understand korean. Language is not everything you need to feel fond of a person or feel close to them. Especially when something as personal as art/music is involved. Many kpop idols had western artists as their own inspiration, so why would they not feel a personal connection to them and their art just because they don’t speak the same language? That seems like a very narrow minded view of the world and human connections. Nobody knows whats real or fake in the entertainment industry, but to say western and korean artists probably don’t genuinely like each other or their music and enjoy working together because they “can’t communicate without a third person” (which in many cases is not even true, a lot of idols can understand english) is just weird to me.

@@loen2629 Bravo well said.

Yet u don’t know him suga does sooo

@@brennathecatlover4360 that's literally what I just said smh...

@@Yooniverse35 I’m just saying it’s stupid when kpop fans try to protect their favs from western artists that their favs know better when these idols chose to collab with them and they don’t need kpop fans protecting them

Lmao how is he too faced kpop idols do the exact same thing and y’all keep you’re delusional hypocritical mouths shut

@@brennathecatlover4360Well said.

They wanna act like they know these people their favs collab with more than their favs lmao. And when kpop artists collab with western idols no one complains kpop is trying to get through western validation but that the western artist is trying to get kpop validation when kpop isn’t even close to being mainstream Bts still isn’t mainstream

@@brennathecatlover4360 bts is pretty mainstream...

BTS is mainstream now​@@brennathecatlover4360

​@@brennathecatlover4360not sure what you define as mainstream if you don't think bts is there.

@@ajlee2168exactly, did they even try..

They already collabed with Hyunjin

Max doesn't have a collab with JK. Yoongi had max as a feature for his song Burn it on the D-2 mixtape released in 2020. And in the later half of 2020 (or was it 2021?? I don't remember for sure right now) yoongi was the one to feature on Max's song blueberry eyes

@@user-vv7hc7kb5o oh myyy you're right I was thinking about Charlie Puth and JK 💀

​​@@marrcei no problem friend! I was confused because I knew for sure only yoongi has worked with Max so no problem

And kpop idols do the exact same thing with lackluster covers and collars

NAUR THEIR COMEBACK IS ON APRIL FOOLS NAURRR

@@Sanatizer_ VERY MUCH YES XD

It is a matter of cognition. Not intent. Language is more psychological than most people realize.

Another thing: I noticed that some of those artists that lately have been collabing with kpop idols are also doing collabs with jpop idols too like MAX and Saweetie Tho those types of things are not exacly new on jpop. For example, many years ago koda kumi had collabs with Fergie and Omarion. It's a way those western artists could enter in the japanese market. i preferred the jpop way of doing it back then bc they was still singing in japanese mixed with eng while i noticed that lately those kpop and jpop collabs are all in english

IM SORRY BUT THIS IS JUST FUNNT AS ALL HELL 💀

now in no way am I defending Nicki Minaj because that woman is a whole mess lol. but in regards to the idol remix she only had nice things to say about the guys. she spoke a couple of times on Queen Radio (that's her online radio show?? ). one time even regretting that she'll be in new york while BTS had a concert in another city in the US during the LY tour, saying that "the song is iconic" and she wants to meet them. you can look it up because there were a couple of mentions. And if I'm not misremembering BTS were the ones who hit her up for the remix and it made sense because the song is Korean and African music and influences joined together in one song. the east and the west if you will. Plus she would have easily said no if she didn't want to do it. As for On ft Sia.......yeahh thank god thats not the og track because to this day idk what went wrong because everyone was so hyped for the album to drop to hear this version/remix and when it finally did.....it was silence on the tl😭😭😭😭😭 in no other point in time has army collectively sat in silence like we did that day fjdjfdk LIKE NOBODY KNEW HOW TO REACT MY STOMACHHH and I blame her for recording her part with a 10 dollar equipment underwater because we could have had it all /j lmaooo BTS and Sia never talked about it either which makes it even more funny 😭😭😭😭😭😭💀